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Mech rivalries
« on: 13 January 2014, 02:39:10 »
There are always those two mechs that end up fighting each other more than once, like Timberwolf and Summoner, or Battlemaster and rifleman, or Griffin and Shadow Hawk. What two mechs do you think make great rivals on the battlefield?
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Re: Mech rivalries
« Reply #1 on: 13 January 2014, 03:01:42 »
Archers vs Warhammers.
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« Reply #2 on: 13 January 2014, 03:07:21 »
Mad Cat versus Vulture

Mad Cat versus Mad Cat Mk IV (Just ask Anastasia Kerensky about that one)

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« Reply #3 on: 13 January 2014, 04:43:00 »
Here's another one I've encountered; Penetrator versus Falconer. I've discovered that asking which is better is a good way to start a war.
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« Reply #4 on: 13 January 2014, 05:27:43 »
Archers vs Warhammers.
That was my first thought, too.  In the first (3025 era) game I ever played, my buddy had a lance with two archers and two warhammers.  I decided to go with a "Heavy cav" lance with two trebuchets and two ostrocs.

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« Reply #5 on: 13 January 2014, 05:57:16 »
Here's another one I've encountered; Penetrator versus Falconer. I've discovered that asking which is better is a good way to start a war.

That is actually how the FedCom Civil War started. Katherine was pro-Falconer and it all went downhill from there.

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« Reply #6 on: 13 January 2014, 06:54:09 »
Well, there always is the Shadow Hawk vs. Wolverine vs. Griffin Debate.

I personally prefer the Wolverine myself  O0

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« Reply #7 on: 13 January 2014, 09:46:14 »
Behemoth vs. Blood Asp
That's a ton of weaponry flying around!
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« Reply #8 on: 13 January 2014, 10:43:34 »
The Thug vs. Warhammer is one mentioned in the fluff for the Warhammer.

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« Reply #9 on: 13 January 2014, 12:22:23 »
Wasp vs Stinger :D

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« Reply #10 on: 13 January 2014, 12:45:18 »
Marauder/Warhammer
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Re: Mech rivalries
« Reply #11 on: 13 January 2014, 13:14:25 »
There are always those two mechs that end up fighting each other more than once, like Timberwolf and Summoner, or Battlemaster and rifleman, or Griffin and Shadow Hawk. What two mechs do you think make great rivals on the battlefield?

 Battlemaster vs. Rifleman? Pfffff. Never seen that one. You'd expect the Rifleman pilot to have some sense and go back to shooting birds.

 
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« Reply #12 on: 13 January 2014, 13:17:39 »
Panther vs. Wight.

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« Reply #13 on: 13 January 2014, 13:28:47 »
Here's some of mine:
Kit Fox vs Centurion
Dragon vs Centurion
Timber Wolf vs Atlas

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« Reply #14 on: 13 January 2014, 13:38:42 »
Panther vs. Wight.

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Pretty one-sided for a rivalry. :-P
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« Reply #15 on: 13 January 2014, 22:37:31 »
Battlemaster vs. Rifleman? Pfffff. Never seen that one. You'd expect the Rifleman pilot to have some sense and go back to shooting birds.
My buddy has been using one that I gave him to get him in the game. He's gotten quite lucky with it in the past. Twice we've fought, each time one of us comes left victorious, either by his mech shutting down right in front of my Battlemaster, or the Battlemaster has a different pilot because of faction affiliation and was green, and got smacked around. It's odd I know, but it's what I got from it.
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« Reply #16 on: 13 January 2014, 22:45:19 »
Victor vs Hatamato Chi (Or any Hatamato)  Likely happened a few times. 
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« Reply #17 on: 13 January 2014, 22:50:08 »
Vindicator vs. Enforcer

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« Reply #18 on: 13 January 2014, 22:54:35 »
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« Reply #19 on: 13 January 2014, 23:11:42 »
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« Reply #20 on: 13 January 2014, 23:56:51 »
Thunderbolt vs other 3025 heavy 'Mechs

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« Reply #21 on: 14 January 2014, 00:15:38 »
There's also the all-time classic Panther-Valkyrie matchup, or the Jenner-Wolfhound fights.

Also considering how prevalent they apparently are in the early sourcebooks, Archer-versus-Archer probably happened a lot, as well as Stinger-Wasp-Locust battles in pretty much any manner you like.  Two hundred thousand Stingers and even more Wasps than that...
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« Reply #22 on: 14 January 2014, 00:25:54 »
Battleaxe vs. Warhammer. That one's explicitly canonical, if pretty one sided.
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« Reply #23 on: 14 January 2014, 00:32:18 »
UrbanMech vs Locust.  Not as one sided as one would think.   

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« Reply #24 on: 14 January 2014, 01:13:05 »
Hammerhands vs Battleaxe with nether surviving the Warhammer.

3025 Dragon vs 3025 Zeus; while never written in the fluff, I always thought it was odd both mechs shared a similar weapons profiles (AC/5s, LRMs, Lasers) The Zeus has more firepower and armor but the Dragon has speed while both serve as proud symbols of their great house military power.

Centurion vs Dragon; same reasons as above.

3025 Commando vs Panther vs Valkyrie, above.

 
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« Reply #25 on: 14 January 2014, 02:32:48 »
Thunderbolt vs other 3025 heavy 'Mechs

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« Reply #26 on: 14 January 2014, 03:04:06 »
Stalker vs Awesome

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« Reply #27 on: 14 January 2014, 03:21:20 »
Because nobody likes the Thud.

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« Reply #28 on: 14 January 2014, 03:25:28 »
My favourite 3025 mech.
Favorite among players yet passed by almost every writer as a ride for the main character.
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« Reply #29 on: 14 January 2014, 05:02:55 »
Favorite among players yet passed by almost every writer as a ride for the main character.
There were a couple of notable Thunderbolt pilots: Patrick Kell and Maeve Wolf were both featured in novels. Also Hans Vordel, who is not a main character, but appears in the novels as well.

But I see your point. And it is of note that the Thunderbolt is indeed often absent in the old (unseen heavy) books not just as a hero Mech but also as opposition.

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« Reply #30 on: 14 January 2014, 06:19:55 »
Goliath vs. Snowspeeder...particularly when they have those tow cables.

Seriously, though, Goliath vs. Valkyrie, given what happened to Cochrane's Goliaths.
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« Reply #31 on: 14 January 2014, 08:46:02 »
Battleaxe vs. Warhammer. That one's explicitly canonical, if pretty one sided.

Along those lines, you also have the Dragon vs. the Shadowhawk and Quickdraw vs. Rifleman vs. JagerMech.
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« Reply #32 on: 14 January 2014, 18:17:59 »
You know I am surprised that no one has mentioned the other hammer rivalry: the Hammer vs. the Valkyrie. The Hammer Light-mech was built by Free World Defense Industries on Gibson to compete against the Corean Enterprises' Valkyrie. And this one has a clear winner since the Hammer's production lines along with most of Gibson got glassed by the Regulans, and to my knowledge, no one has resurrected the Hammer.

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« Reply #33 on: 15 January 2014, 12:01:25 »
This isn't a classis rivalry but as other people are sharing their own personal rivalries I'll share mine.

My friend Clint used to be a big awesome fan. Back in the day we played ... The only way you can have a mech is if you salvaged it or bought it with c-bills or traded for it. Well I got my hands on a Penetrator. His awesome was full of clan tech that we had salvaged...clan pulse lasers, targeting comp etc. The thing was a nasty beast.

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« Reply #34 on: 15 January 2014, 12:11:10 »
You know I am surprised that no one has mentioned the other hammer rivalry: the Hammer vs. the Valkyrie. The Hammer Light-mech was built by Free World Defense Industries on Gibson to compete against the Corean Enterprises' Valkyrie. And this one has a clear winner since the Hammer's production lines along with most of Gibson got glassed by the Regulans, and to my knowledge, no one has resurrected the Hammer.

I don't reall see that as a rivalry, though.  The Hammer was never widely exported outside of the League, and the Valkyrie comprised a hefty percentage of the Davion light 'Mech forces for centuries.  Sure, Corean built it, but it was Corean on New Avalon, not Corean on Stewart, so as far as I'm aware, the two were never really placed in opposition to each other.
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« Reply #35 on: 15 January 2014, 15:20:47 »
Pheonix Hawk (3025) vs Maruader (3025)

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« Reply #36 on: 15 January 2014, 15:57:15 »
Jagermech vs Loki

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« Reply #37 on: 16 January 2014, 01:59:49 »
Along those lines, you also have the Dragon vs. the Shadowhawk and Quickdraw vs. Rifleman vs. JagerMech.
The Jagermech vs Rifleman always made sense to me, the Quickdraw vs Rifleman fluff not so much.

You can kinda connect the dots on how the Shadowhawk inspired the Dragon (LRMs, AC5, Med Laser)
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« Reply #38 on: 16 January 2014, 20:10:37 »
My favourite 3025 mech.

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I can remember taking on my mates TBolt waaay back in the day and being utterly torn to pieces.

During the Luthien campaign I am playing, we have seen a lot of Summoner vs Archer battles. The Draconis side has an elite Archer MechWarrior who sits back in cover and rains fire. I have a veteran Summoner MechWarrior who is tasked with jumping through all that terrain to get to him, stick within minimum range and give him hell.

Other than that, Cougar Primary vs Adder Primary. The Cougar has the same average damage potential, slightly better chance to hit with a wider spread of damage, slightly better heat control but slower. The Adder has that PPC knock out punch and targeting capability. Old faithful vs the stylish new upstart  ;D
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« Reply #39 on: 16 January 2014, 23:43:33 »
Crusader vs Tbolt
Wight owns panther!!!
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« Reply #40 on: 17 January 2014, 03:30:44 »
Wright owns panther!!!
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« Reply #41 on: 17 January 2014, 10:24:08 »
Wight is a cool mech
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« Reply #42 on: 17 January 2014, 11:08:17 »
Even though it wastes too much tonnage on that compact engine.   ???
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« Reply #43 on: 18 January 2014, 07:13:39 »
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« Reply #44 on: 18 January 2014, 08:25:22 »
Stalker vs Awesome

Grasshopper vs Guillotine
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« Reply #45 on: 18 January 2014, 20:23:34 »
Archer vs Warhammer is my favorite. That was one my first battle ever in battletech.

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« Reply #46 on: 18 January 2014, 20:44:43 »
Thunderbolt versus Loki.
Battlemaster vs zeus,or atlas.

Maruader vs Warhammer though takes the title.  my first game
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« Reply #47 on: 19 January 2014, 02:11:46 »


Maruader vs Warhammer though takes the title.  my first game

I gotta agree with Marauder vs  Warhammer .

That's one of the all time classic fights .


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« Reply #48 on: 19 January 2014, 03:29:17 »
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« Reply #49 on: 19 January 2014, 10:47:33 »
UrbanMech running vs. pavement hex.

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« Reply #50 on: 19 January 2014, 11:16:36 »
UrbanMech running vs. pavement hex.

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« Reply #51 on: 20 January 2014, 17:53:34 »
Grasshopper VS guillotine always comes out in a wash for me.  can go either way.  I do say the Srm 6 on the guillotine , does act as a good equalizer.  Now if its a 5n Hopper with the PPC, still equals out.

Shadowhawk VS wolverine .

Falconer VS Summoner.  its a jumping slug match.

Centurion VS enfocer. 

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« Reply #52 on: 20 January 2014, 20:48:07 »
Thunderbolt vs Crusader is the one I always think of.  It was one of the introductory fights in the 3rd edition book.

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« Reply #53 on: 21 January 2014, 09:30:54 »
Never did 'hopper versus Guillotine. Did do the'hopper versus a battlemaster. Didn't turn out well for the bmaster.

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