Author Topic: Canon Warship List (Read 247656 times)

Jellico · « **Reply #90 on:** 23 April 2011, 00:16:28 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 22 April 2011, 10:40:58

Mountbatten was the name of a class of commercial Hovercraft though that was built in the mid 1960's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountbatten
Prince Louis I, Lord Admiral Louis and Prince Philip all had serious naval connections in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Remembering that this is the history of the 1980s, his existance was conveniently pushed back into the spotlight in 1979 when the IRA blew him up.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #91 on:** 23 April 2011, 08:55:34 »

Never know, in the Battletech history the Brits may have named a cruiser after the guy. Then it would fit to have a Texas named after him.

Trace Coburn · « **Reply #92 on:** 25 April 2011, 03:18:49 »

Quote from: Jellico on 23 April 2011, 00:16:28

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountbatten
Prince Louis I, Lord Admiral Louis and Prince Philip all had serious naval connections in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Remembering that this is the history of the 1980s, his existance was conveniently pushed back into the spotlight in 1979 when the ~~IRA~~ Irish National Liberation Army blew him up.

Fixed for historical accuracy. And the way I hear it, if it hadn't been for the 'collateral damage' there are a fair few veterans of Dieppe who would've wanted to buy them a pint for it. #P Given how deeply rooted the Terran Hegemony was in McKenna's Canadian heritage, I can only ascribe that naming getting past Their Lordships without causing all those fallen Canadian lads to become subterranean dynamos to the anaesthesia caused by the passage of centuries. ::)

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 23 April 2011, 08:55:34

Never know, in the Battletech history the Brits may have named a cruiser after the guy. Then it would fit to have a Texas named after him.

By the time the Irish bombers nominated him for that honour, the RN was long out of the cruiser-building business (other than the 'through-deck' kind, and ain't no way one of those would've been tarred with that brush when there were other, long-honoured names going). :-X

The Hawk · « **Reply #93 on:** 25 April 2011, 08:52:05 »

Well, that's another point; the original supposition was that they were being named after historical blue-water battleships rather than just any ol' blue-water ship. (Frankly, if your naming scheme is "we name our space vessels after any historical blue-water naval vessel", you don't really have a naming scheme.) Battleships stopped being named when they stopped being built, in 1944, which was already historical fact when the BT universe diverged from our own in the mid-'80s. (The BT universe certainly changes what is now our past, but I can't think of any examples of it changing the pre-1984 past. There may be some.)

Anyway, I'm sticking with the belief that there is no consistent naming scheme of any kind, which seems to best reflect the evidence to date.

Frank · « **Reply #94 on:** 03 May 2011, 00:40:29 »

Is there any news as to what happened to these following missing AFFS warships.

1) FSS Murmansk
2) FSS Andrew Davion

Also How did the Wolf-in exile loss all but one warship.

Ulric Kerensky--lost over Skye
Implaccable --lost over Odessa/Gabriel
Werewolf--lost over Chara
2 unknown ships over Arc-royal
2 others lost to unknown causes when and where unknown also

Any one have any guesses or clues.

Øystein · « **Reply #95 on:** 03 May 2011, 07:56:02 »

FSS Murmansk was destroyed in drydock over Kathil in 3069.
FSS Andrew Davion went missing during the FCCW and has been written off as a loss after over a decade with no word.

bronzite · « **Reply #96 on:** 18 May 2011, 19:54:01 »

Does anybody have a feed on the class and disposition of the Touman? She's referred to exactly once on page 66 of The Blake Documents, having gone down with the Ulric Kerensky, but she's not on any fleet inventory at least as far back as FM:U. Context suggests she's Clan Wolf or Wolf-in-Exile, but her only known characteristic (exploding when hit with nuclear ordnance) is not particularly useful in identifying her.

Øystein · « **Reply #97 on:** 19 May 2011, 01:00:30 »

It's a typo, that I'm not 100% sure where originated.

Anyways, the CWS Touman is really the CWS Nicholas Kerensky (Texas-class).

Wrangler · « **Reply #98 on:** 19 May 2011, 19:12:23 »

I don't have my books handy, but wasn't there a Texas Class ship that was redouced to a system defense ship due to its K-F Drive? I thought it was Nicolas Kerensky or something like that...

Ruger · « **Reply #99 on:** 19 May 2011, 20:01:45 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 19 May 2011, 19:12:23

I don't have my books handy, but wasn't there a Texas Class ship that was redouced to a system defense ship due to its K-F Drive? I thought it was Nicolas Kerensky or something like that...

That was Clan Coyote's Ancestral Home...

Ruger

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #100 on:** 29 May 2011, 21:30:01 »

Quote from: Ruger on 19 May 2011, 20:01:45

That was Clan Coyote's Ancestral Home...

Ruger

Wait, wheres that at?

Ruger · « **Reply #101 on:** 29 May 2011, 22:01:23 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 29 May 2011, 21:30:01

Wait, wheres that at?

Page 46 of FM: Warden Clans talks about the condition of the Ancestral Home...

Ruger

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #102 on:** 30 May 2011, 09:41:46 »

Quote from: Ruger on 29 May 2011, 22:01:23

Page 46 of FM: Warden Clans talks about the condition of the Ancestral Home...

Ruger

Man, I've had that book for ages, how could I have missed that!

truetanker · « **Reply #103 on:** 06 June 2011, 13:56:12 »

Did General Kerenskyâ€™s Exodus bring a Newgrange with them? I have a statement that says about forty-five or so survived the Armis Civil War, but get blown up later as prime targets in the SW-eras. Do we have a definate answer? Or should we always assume at least one of everything SL had is cached somewhere on or around Strana Mechty?

TT

Wrangler · « **Reply #104 on:** 06 June 2011, 17:20:18 »

Quote from: truetanker on 06 June 2011, 13:56:12

Did General Kerenskyâ€™s Exodus bring a Newgrange with them? I have a statement that says about forty-five or so survived the Armis Civil War, but get blown up later as prime targets in the SW-eras. Do we have a definate answer? Or should we always assume at least one of everything SL had is cached somewhere on or around Strana Mechty?

TT

Well, if these ships would be attached to Kerensky's fleet. Original fluff from JHS:3076 suggests that they were part of the Exodus fleet. It would properly highly important piece of mobile infrualstructure you could bring to establish a hightech world with space industry. If survived the Exodus/Pentagon Wars is another story, the fighting didn't sound like it got into space way the H: OK read.

DarthRads · « **Reply #105 on:** 06 June 2011, 19:23:39 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 06 June 2011, 17:20:18

Well, if these ships would be attached to Kerensky's fleet. Original fluff from JHS:3076 suggests that they were part of the Exodus fleet. It would properly highly important piece of mobile infrualstructure you could bring to establish a hightech world with space industry. If survived the Exodus/Pentagon Wars is another story, the fighting didn't sound like it got into space way the H: OK read.

Quite a few orbital caches seem to have been destroyed though.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #106 on:** 11 June 2011, 21:36:53 »

My moneys on each Clan claiming one to maintain their fleets and many being used to be start ups for major Clan Shipyards, stripped and added onto to create stations and central nexus's of drydocks. Many were probably destroyed during the Pentagon Civil War as well, limiting their numbers so not every Clan may have been able to claim one.

Billy Boy Mark II · « **Reply #107 on:** 27 June 2011, 09:52:41 »

Do we know what ships the WOB found at the Ruins of Gabriel? What ships of there fleet came from there I mean.

truetanker · « **Reply #108 on:** 27 June 2011, 10:00:27 »

I for one will always assume one of each Star Leaque Warship-class is in the hands, at one time or another, of the WoB.

That way, I can safely state, it's in there!

TT

Wrangler · « **Reply #109 on:** 28 June 2011, 18:46:26 »

Well, the new Historical: Reunification War has alot of info, but not many names except for one...which we get more info on.

JPArbiter · « **Reply #110 on:** 12 July 2011, 08:35:28 »

well we know there were 7 dreadnoughts built (all those autocannons [drool] )

Wrangler · « **Reply #111 on:** 12 July 2011, 16:48:26 »

Quote from: JPArbiter on 12 July 2011, 08:35:28

well we know there were 7 dreadnoughts built (all those autocannons [drool] )

Only thing that bothers me, ONLY SEV$EN?!? :(

I would hope that the survivors were refitted little bit. They were pretty nifty ships.

Jellico · « **Reply #112 on:** 12 July 2011, 17:25:04 »

Yes, they were. They got all those auto cannon. AC5s and AC2s were not available in 2300.

Moonsword · « **Reply #113 on:** 12 July 2011, 19:41:32 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 12 July 2011, 16:48:26

Only thing that bothers me, ONLY SEV$EN?!? :(

I submit to you that they didn't need more than seven.

First, consider the environment. The first interstellar powers are barely coalescing. The first known (I repeat, known) opposing heavy combatant was the Capellan Du Shi Wang, introduced in 2380, also the Confederation's first WarShip. I don't have class sizes for the Lyran Commonwealth (2375), FWL League (2368), Davion Defender (2360), or Kuritan Narukami (2380), but as all of these are listed as the first WarShips built by the respective powers, the Dreadnoughts were functionally superweapons.

Now consider that we know the Darts had already entered service in 2305, quite powerful and tough for their day given the way Dreadnought basically defined the idea of the WarShip, and were probably the second most powerful class of WarShip for some decades. Two classes of corvette are under construction - Bonaventure (2317) and Vigilant (2320). Two more classes, the Lola I destroyers (2345) and Quixote frigates (2350), will be in service before the Houses get a single domestically-built WarShip. The same year the League is introduced, the Monsoon comes off the slip and pushes the envelope of most powerful WarShip all over again; this may have been prompted by Davion's introduction of the Defenders in 2360. Four years later, the Aegises burst onto the scene.

Blacknova · « **Reply #114 on:** 12 July 2011, 20:43:00 »

Moonsword, do you by any chance have a list of class introduction dates? If you do, would you be able to post it? Most appreciated if you can.

Weirdo · « **Reply #115 on:** 12 July 2011, 20:53:27 »

Soon as I'm home, I'll post a spreadsheet I made, that charts the introduction and lifespan of every pre-Amaris WarShip I've bothered to put on it.

Moonsword · « **Reply #116 on:** 12 July 2011, 20:54:47 »

Quote from: Blacknova on 12 July 2011, 20:43:00

Moonsword, do you by any chance have a list of class introduction dates? If you do, would you be able to post it? Most appreciated if you can.

I'll have to compile one from available sources. All of that was done looking at StratOps, TRO3057R, Reunification War, and TRO3075. Give me a little while to sort one out.

Quote from: Weirdo on 12 July 2011, 20:53:27

Soon as I'm home, I'll post a spreadsheet I made, that charts the introduction and lifespan of every pre-Amaris WarShip I've bothered to put on it.

Woohoo!

Weirdo · « **Reply #117 on:** 12 July 2011, 21:06:28 »

...and here you go! If anyone's curious, the colors don't mean a thing except to improve contrast, and for some of the ships, it only represents their HAF/SLDF service, not their later service in House navies. Also, the second page is a very incomplete project I just started today to identify the planets that various HAF or SLDF ships were built over, to aid in assigning proper SLDF colors for them.

Jellico · « **Reply #118 on:** 12 July 2011, 22:03:55 »

Moonsword · « **Reply #119 on:** 12 July 2011, 22:28:31 »

And here's my list of ship class introductions. Also provided are explanatory notes, name of the faction to first introduce it at the time it was built (i.e., Mjolnir is listed as LA, not LC), and tonnages for comparison purposes.

This was built using TRO3057R, TRO3075, TRO3085 Supplemental, Era Digest: Golden Century, Strategic Operations, and Reunification War. Further information is probably available from the WarShip Master List but for this initial release, I decided to go with my own sources.