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Black_Knyght

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Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« on: 09 January 2019, 20:22:22 »
Last night a fellow CBT player/friend sent me some pics he'd found online and asked if I could post them in a kind of "Design This" challenge, to see what the various folks around here might do with them.

THAT said, here's the FOURTH: A Light Gauss Rifle equipped Scout/Support VTOL/Helicopter

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Re: Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2019, 21:37:16 »
Well, here's one take.  An XL engine roughly doubles the price for a bit more armor, but it didn't strike me as worth it.
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LGR VTOL

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 1,509,280 C-Bills
Battle Value: 548

Construction Options: Fractional Accounting

Power Plant:  130 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 97.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Light Gauss Rifle
    1  Recon Camera
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      15 points                3.000
Engine:             Fusion Engine                130                       6.750
    Cruise MP:  9
    Flank MP:   14
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.000
Control Equipment:                                                         1.500
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.000
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  40                  2.232

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     14       
                                          Left/Right    8/8         
                                                Rear     8         
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Light Gauss Rifle                            FR        1         1        12.000
Recon Camera                                 FR        0         1         0.500
@Light Gauss Rifle (16)                      BD        -         0         1.000

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      1    Points: 5
9v         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities:

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Re: Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« Reply #2 on: 11 January 2019, 10:23:57 »
Oh why not

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GHOST G-77454 REDACTED

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 15,100,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 700

Power Plant:  160 XXL Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 108.0 km/h
Flanking Speed: 162.0 km/h
Armor:  Vehicle Stealth Armor
Armament:
    1  Light Gauss Rifle
    1  Recon Camera
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
    1  Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

Overview:
The GHOST (unidentified hostile G-77454) is an, as yet, unconfirmed VTOL but
reports have rolled in from various battlefields surrounding a new kind of
enemy recon VTOL.  Lurking on the very edge of battlefields these GHOST VTOLs
are the suspected source of small, hypervelocity rounds most likely from a
light Gauss Rifle.


So far we have failed to get a good look at the unit but we have confirmed the
presence of a VTOL and an ASF flyby spotted a long belly mounted extrusion that
could easily be a large ballistic weapon.  Despite them being extremely
slippery to our sensors we have managed to track one travelling at over 150 kph
which makes it a match for even our fastest gunships.  We have made some
suppositions about their technical capabilities and included it in this file. 
We estimate that given time and money to fully develop the design we could
build units with a comparable performance envelope but the cost would be a
substantial 15 million per unit as we would need to use an extremely expensive
XXL engine and state of the art stealth technology


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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      15 points                3.00
Engine:             XXL Fusion Engine            160                       3.00
    Cruise MP:  10
    Flank MP:   15
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.00
Armor:              Vehicle Stealth Armor        AV -  48                  3.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     15       
                                          Left/Right   11/11       
                                                Rear     9         
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Light Gauss Rifle                            FR        1         1        12.00
Recon Camera                                 FR        0         1         0.50
Guardian ECM Suite                           BD        0         1         1.50
Beagle Active Probe                          BD        0         1         1.50
@Light Gauss Rifle (16)                      BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 7
10v        1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ECM, STL, PRB, RCN


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Re: Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« Reply #3 on: 11 January 2019, 17:44:12 »
Oh why not



NICE!
Love the stats, and even more so the fluff!

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Re: Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« Reply #4 on: 11 January 2019, 17:51:11 »
Hilariously, that one is literally 10x the cost of mine.  ;D

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Re: Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« Reply #5 on: 12 January 2019, 16:16:06 »
Well, here's one take.  An XL engine roughly doubles the price for a bit more armor, but it didn't strike me as worth it.
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LGR VTOL

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 1,509,280 C-Bills
Battle Value: 548

Construction Options: Fractional Accounting

Power Plant:  130 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 97.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Light Gauss Rifle
    1  Recon Camera
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      15 points                3.000
Engine:             Fusion Engine                130                       6.750
    Cruise MP:  9
    Flank MP:   14
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.000
Control Equipment:                                                         1.500
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.000
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  40                  2.232

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     14       
                                          Left/Right    8/8         
                                                Rear     8         
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Light Gauss Rifle                            FR        1         1        12.000
Recon Camera                                 FR        0         1         0.500
@Light Gauss Rifle (16)                      BD        -         0         1.000

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      1    Points: 5
9v         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities:

Have you considered using a fuel cell engine?  Price goes down a hair while armor goes up by about 50%.

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LGR-FC VTOL

Mass: 30 tons
Movement Type: VTOL
Power Plant: 130 Fuel Cell
Cruising Speed: 97.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 151.2 kph
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     1 Light Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3070
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Cost: 1,444,000 C-bills

Type: LGR-FC
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Movement Type: VTOL
Tonnage: 30
Battle Value: 605

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    3
Engine                        130 Fuel Cell         5.5
Cruising MP: 9
Flank MP: 14
Heat Sinks:                   1                       0
Control Equipment:                                  1.5
Lift Equipment:                                     3.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Armor Factor (Ferro)          62                    3.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   3         18   
     R/L Side               3/3      15/15   
     Rear                    3         12   
     Rotor                   3         2     


Weapons
and Ammo                      Location    Tonnage   
Light Gauss Rifle              Front        12.0   
Recon Camera                   Front        0.5     
Light Gauss Rifle Ammo (16)     Body        1.0

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Re: Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« Reply #6 on: 12 January 2019, 16:17:27 »
I had not, that's a great idea!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« Reply #7 on: 13 January 2019, 05:18:31 »
Hilariously, that one is literally 10x the cost of mine.  ;D

Yup, I started off playing with FCE hand HFF but I thought I'd just go nuts and I'm quite pleased with it

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Re: Design Challenge - LGR equipped Scout/Support VTOL
« Reply #9 on: 26 January 2019, 22:28:49 »
Not enough range  :D
(Ok, it doesn't have the LGR, but I'm not sorry)

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IS experimental VTOL
25 tons 
BV: 350
Cost: 816,750 C-bills

Movement: 11/17 (VTOL)
Engine: 135 Fuel Cell

Internal: 10
Armor: 56
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       2       18
Right                       2       10
Left                        2       10
Rear                        2       16
Rotor                       2        2

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
HVAC/2                          FR     1

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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HVAC/2 Ammo                     BD    30

Equipment                      Loc
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Recon Camera                    FR

At least it's cheaper then the HVAC/2 Locust I did a while ago.
I thought about adding a C3I slave, but it doubled the cost.
At 30tons you are 50% more expensive for only 0.5t more armor.