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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #30 on: 14 November 2019, 22:57:08 »
A Commander with 4 Cutters?  I'd think she'd more likely be a Commodore with a flotilla like that in that time and place...

In a regular navy, probably, or at very least she'd be a Captain (as in "O" rank, not role.)
however, one of the limits I put on the Ngoverse; Kowloon's units tend to be rank-deflated.  for Ground forces this meant that there were whole Companies commanded by Leutnants, for the Coast Guard, there's exactly ONE "Admiral" rank personnel, cutters are commanded by Lieutenants, Patrols by Commanders, and Squadrons by Captains.

A "Patrol" is four cutters.

remember your manpower levels are very low-these are below the 100k tonnage, 'primitive jump' ships (Ignore the LF battery doubling the actual effective range here), with crew sizes in the at-or-below 50 range for the Sampan class.  Effectively they've got more in common with a swift boat squadron or PBR unit.  The larger vessels like Zerstoren get helmed by actual Captains (O-6), but only because of the size of the manpower complement and the corresponding higher priority in the Reserve system-those mostly went straight to SLN/AFFC-N when the Archon grabbed the Service.

The Kowloonese 'cutter' system is derived more from dropship duty, with an accompanying level of rank, and it ends up working out as being like WW2 era submarine service in actual function.  Four cutters plus one support vessel or 'tender' (Usually Merchant or Tramp class) is One Patrol.  Four Patrols makes one Squadron.

for example, the 14th BW (Black Water-comes from space duty):

Patrol A:
Cutter 1
Cutter 2
Cutter 3
Cutter 4
Support Vessel 5

Hull markings are Squadron/Patrol/Cutter as follows:

14/A/01.  14 being the Squadron, A being Patrol, the final digit being the hull number itself.

a note about Coast Guard Jurisdictions:

Within the Lyran state they ran pretty loose with the term, but since being regularized AND assigned to support Star League 'stability operations' (a means really to keep Liz from restarting the war with the Clans on the Jade Falcon front or doing something else unspeakable), firm limits on Coast Guard Jurisdictions have been implemented, particularly in the space around recognized or member states.  Traditionally, the Kowloon Coast Guard's jurisdiction was "Within 150 Kilometers of any navigable medium similar to water or sea".  thus, "Black Water".  in practice this let the Coast Guard effectively claim operational jurisdiction on Kowloon itself (the surface is within 100 Kilometers of orbit), however the roles were used to more efficiently approach this.

Coast Guard's main branches:

Brown Water: this was, prior to the last decade in THIS verse, the largest portion of the service, conducting riverine patrol, law enforcement, firefighting and search-and-rescue as well as acting as a cross-jurisdiction police agency on Kowloon itself. (also at times delivering the mail, providing emergency transportation/medical services and other grab-bag applications.)  In peacetime the Brownwater squadrons act a bit like 'state police' agencies mixed with a bit of civil service and rural fire department.

Blue Water: Oceanic operations, including Polar and submarine.  Blue Water is treated at a step to Black-water assigments for Enlisted personnel, blue water also conducts survey and some basic ecological monitoring, but is best known to AFFC for operating combat submarines, aircraft carriers, and surface support combatants.  The Blue Water squadrons handle most of the island chains in the Eastern and Western oceans, as well as maintaining the Air Bases on the south polar continent and providing personnel and maintenance for many of the telescope and radiotelescope systems left over from the Rim Worlds occupation.

Marine: effectively Naval Infantry, the Marine component is spread out, acting in a variety of roles, Coast Guard Marines recieve training in relevant disciplines depending on assignment, but are at base, riflemen and commando operations specialists first.  during Peacetime, Marines are the smallest component of the Coast Guard, during wartime, they become the largest.  5% of Marine Candidates die in training on average before getting the coveted title of "Marine" with the attendant white cap and cutlass.

OCB: Organized Crime Bureau.  This sub-branch was first formulated during Allesandro Steiner's reign in the late 3rd Succession War, and represents Kowloon's answer to the need for an intelligence agency focused on counter-piracy operations.  OCB focuses primarily on what are 'low priority' issues for Loki or Lohengrin, such as identifying Black Marketeers who deal in slaves, contraband, or fencing stolen technologies taken by pirates.  The OCB has a 'special crimes unit' focused on identification and elimination of Serial killers who cross into or out of Kowloonese territory.  Most of what OCB does, is done with a surprising lack of violence.  OCB's actual manpower and budget were 'black' on the Kowloon ledgers prior to nationalization, and post-nationalization, it remains a single-line-item with some oversight by Lohengrin and MIIO.

Black Water: space operations and spaceborne operations.  The Blackwater Squadrons have had the longest continuous operational history in the Coast Guard, functioning even when Kowloon itself was under Rim Worlds Occupation and indigenous policing agencies were illegal.  this portion of the agency experienced the second-largest expansion of any branch under Elizabeth Ngo's ducal reign, including but not limited to formal shipyards, public recognition, and a manpower expansion not seen since the planet's brief period of post-Rim-worlds independence during the Star League Civil war.  (It is truly amazing what you can get away with when Melissa gives you a tax break under emergency conditions!)  in the universe of Victoria Ian Steiner-Davion (this version) the Black Water branch has expanded some ten times its last highest point, siring 'sister services' on a number of Lyran worlds.  One salutary impact of this, has been a check on piracy along the Lyran periphery, with an attendant reduction in predation.  This isn't a coincidence.  it's hard to conduct piracy when you can't get or keep ships to transport your merry band of raiding slavers.

Programs on the Lyran Periphery that recieved Victoria's seal of approval include the "Health and Safety" project, which provides for both contraband searches, and 'maintenance chits' redeemable at government yards for small operators who would otherwise have to rely on the Black market to keep their ships flying.  this measure alone, instituted shortly after Elizabeth's infamous crucifiction by impalement of 23 members of Hopper Morrison's gang, reduced pirate operations from nearly a daily occurrance along the former Rim Worlds front, to something remarkably rare.

Submitting to a health and Safety inspection gives a temporary amnesty for any possession of stolen property-but not slaves or kidnapped civilians, meaning that smugglers who submit to a tech inspection have little to no reason to run unless they're carrying hostages.  This amnesty is good for one incident, after which, if caught again, legal measures will be employed.  For slavers, it's a bit different.  They get to breath vacuum upon being caught, no exceptions.  Stolen property is generally returned to owners if it can be properly routed in those cases, when it can not, it is sold at auction.  (Ships confiscated in this manner are either reconditioned and sold, or scrapped, depending on evaluated repair and maintenance cost.)  The upshot of this, has been that hauling pirates and slavers has been rendered to the 'unprofitable' side of the risk/reward ledger in zones where the Coast Guard is operating.

Note; for stubborn types who refuse, there are the 14cm lasers and capital missile emplacements on cutters.  These are significantly more powerful than most dropship ordnance and the crews are both disciplined, and trained.  In addition, a cadre of Marines is often aboard to conduct boarding actions, and they are likewise extensively drilled and trained for boarding actions and seizure.  basically, unless you're a ship belonging to a recognized navy? you will be boarded, you will be inspected, stolen property will be confiscated and if you're an indie, you will get a repair chit, some technical aid, and directions (or escort) to the nearest Yard for repairs.  Unless you're dealing in unwilling people, in which case you will be spaced and a prize crew will bring your ship to port.

Notable also: ships going "missing" have dropped significantly thanks to the "Health and Safety" program, and many shoestring/borderline operators have been able to squeak back into legitimate freight and hauling business due to this system, preventing many jumpship owner/operators from NEEDING to seek illegal business.  The general impact has seen a 75% drop in piracy along the Lyran border, with secondary drops noted along the Free Worlds zones close to the Lyran state, due to the decline in haulers willing to transport Pirates, bandits, and slavers.

Coast Guard Directive 15, Dated 3064/12/22 states that cooperation with local authorities of member states is to be pursued in all cases.  criminals and fugitives arrested in the territorial zones of Star League Member states, Provisional Members, or Recognized states, are to be rendered to local authority for prosecution, along with any and all evidence of crimes, Warrants of Arrest, Warrants of Detention, or credible evidence of criminal activity to include Slaving.  (this countermands Order 3 and Ducal order 11).  In the event such authorities are unavailable, suspects are to be given a shipboard trial under Directives 3 and 11.  Disposal of perpetrators convicted will be conducted per Coast Guard Regulation 24, and proceedings are to be documented for review upon making port.

Perpetrators disposed of under Regulation 24 are to be recovered upon confirmation of life sign termination, and stored for medical review if possible. if storage is not possible, see Regulation 24a.  Slavers caught ground side on unclaimed or extraterritorial planets (See definition 19, 20, and 22 of the Star League Declaration of 3052) are to be tried fairly, and if found guilty, Elbar protocols are considered appropriate (Provided sufficient wood can be secured for the stakes), recording and retention of both Trial and execution are to be submitted to the nearest local recognized legal authorities.  For perpetrators willing to cooperate in a larger or more extensive investigation, see Directive 13, or Coast Guard Regulation 4 (Humane treatment of Prisoners that are cooperative.)
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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #31 on: 14 November 2019, 23:11:55 »
More notes...

Shore duty:  Shore duty is a requirement in the Coast Guard, with Blackwater personnel required to spend a minimum of 198 hours per Terran year on a planetary surface under a minimum of .98 atmosphere's pressure (no more than 1.1) in an unsuited condition to prevent Finagle's Lament, a psychological variation of Astrophobia in which the sufferer experiences intense feelings of discomfort from being planet-bound.  Shore duty may be deferred up to 3 years with the approval of medical personnel, or in the case of a waiver for personnel who already suffer from the disorder.  Notably, this disorder is more commonly encountered among Rockjack personnel.

Waivers are typically issued to jump navigation specialists, though other specialties do have some recorded instances, these are comparatively rarer situations.  See your Patrol or Squadron's Medical Officer if you think you may be suffering from Finagle's Lament.  mild cases can be treated with anti-anxiety medication.
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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #32 on: 15 November 2019, 05:06:19 »
Makes sense!  And very interesting details!  :thumbsup:

On the second post, do you mean "variation of agoraphobia"?

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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #33 on: 15 November 2019, 09:57:13 »
Makes sense!  And very interesting details!  :thumbsup:

On the second post, do you mean "variation of agoraphobia"?
actually, Astrophobia is a real phobia, and is a variation on Agoraphobia. I couldn't find a proper technical term for fear of being trapped on a planetary surface, however.
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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #34 on: 15 November 2019, 10:33:15 »
actually, Astrophobia is a real phobia, and is a variation on Agoraphobia. I couldn't find a proper technical term for fear of being trapped on a planetary surface, however.

How about "Sidereophobia" - "fear of planets"?
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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #35 on: 15 November 2019, 11:32:06 »
KCGS Nueva Pueblo, Somewhere near Sarna, 3065...

"Commander Minh, a Moment?"  They were docked at 11th Squadron's tender, and Nicole had managed to avoid most of the meet-and-greets so far by the luck of being the beta patrol's leader and having lots of Office-type officer work.

Her luck, quite apparently, was out.  "What can I do for you, Adept...Martin, is it?"

"Nicky, it's me." Joseph Martin stated.  "You know I knew."

"I have no idea what you're talking about, Adept, this is the first time I've ever seen you." she answered coldly.  the poise she'd learned during officer training at Spider Moon had its uses.  Hiding the roiling panic she felt, was one.  "I would certainly remember meeting a Terran, especially a member of the Word of Blake, before now.  You must have me confused with someone else."

he stared at her open-mouthed, then closed his mouth.  "of course, Commander. I must be mistaken.  you just look so much like someone I...lost. many years ago."

"I'm not her." she tells him, "I'm very sorry for your loss. now if you will excuse me, I have considerable work to be doing."

with that, she pushed off down the connecting umbilical to her boat.  Sithers was on watch as she made her way to the command deck.  "Who was the bohunk in the robes?" her XO asked.

"Nobody...not now."  Nicole stated, "have we got those consumable stocks inventoried?"

"Ready to ship, mum." Sithers stated, "No, seriously, who was that guy?"

"Adept III Joseph Paul Martin, unless he changed his middle name." Nicole said, "Metis Belter from Martinside in the Sol system, not affiliated with Free Stars unless he suddenly replaced his forebrain with one that isn't a closet fascist."

"So you do know him!"

"I left that part of my life behind before I surrendered the Juliana to the Coast Guard in '62." Nicole stated, "before I emigrated to Kowloon, and no, I don't want to talk about it."

"Family?"

"I said I don't want to talk about it.  Leave it drift.  we've got a six week transit through the Sarna March sector to link up with Free Worlds Fleet elements and I don't want to chart through Terran space if we can avoid it."

"It could be three weeks if you did." Sithers reminded her.

"Yeah, but I don't want to visit the place, and we don't have a burning need to do so."  she reached over to a bridge stores cabinet and pulled out a bubble-bottle of Juice and a density enhanced sandwich.  "you are too ****** perceptive anyway, Seether. just leave it drift, 'kay?  less time we spend crossing their territory the happier everyone is going to be."

"You plotting the jumps in your head already, huh?"

Nicole snorted, "I'm distracted, you've got first plots."
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« Reply #36 on: 15 November 2019, 13:19:07 »
This is great, thanks for continuing!
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« Reply #37 on: 15 November 2019, 19:54:43 »
I suppose even Belters could fall for propaganda...

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« Reply #38 on: 16 November 2019, 04:39:33 »
I suppose even Belters could fall for propaganda...

Belters are human, humans fall for all sorts of things.
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« Reply #39 on: 16 November 2019, 05:03:55 »
New Avalon...

"No, I think you should." Elizabeth noted, "Let's look this over rationally.  in 3058, the Word of Blake took Terra from Comstar, securing most of the HPG network's main hubs and the bulk of the archived technical information.  They're buddy-buddy with the Cappellan Confederation, and doing tech support and upgrade for the Free Worlds League.  They've also replaced Comstar with the Taurians and made inroads with the other periphery states.  From a business perspective, having two providers for any essential service means you can get them to bid, which lowers costs, but politically, the Word of Blake is on the outs because officially, everyone lined up with Comstar."

"Where are you going with this?" Victoria asked.

"Okay, hear me out, they want to join the Star League too, right? so yeah, co-sponsor them-it gives everyone a viable alternative and keeps pressure on Comstar to provide good service...it also gives the Council the chance to see what's behind the walls."  Liz's eyes twitched, and she licked her lips before continuing, "Legitimate access instead o-o-of.." she paused.

"New medicine's not working?" Victoria asked.

Elizabeth made a negating gesture, "Not working.  I'm going to have to submit my resignation soon. anyway, if they're included they become...invested...less trouble if they get hurt dumping the ore cart.  K-k-keeps t-th-thi-thinggss ssssstttable..." 

The technical head of the Coast Guard collapsed to the floor, thrashing and then, screaming.

Victoria rode out the younger woman's seizure, but a Coastie Corpsman nearby started a stopwatch.

Five minutes.

"Check her over." Victoria said dully.  every time she'd witnessed this it didn't get better, or easier, but she found she could control the urge to rush in. 

"h-ow long.?" Elizabeth groaned when the thrashing ended.

"Five minutes.  can you continue?"

Liz sat up with help.  "I think I sprained something, but yeah, this is important.  we have to keep it stable.  You do, on the Council, stability gets everyone one more day to undo three hundred years of destructive wars, economic collapses, and lost knowledge.  It means getting in bed with absolute monsters, but it's necessary. rational people can't influence them, if they're locked out and bunkered up."

"And we need the forces against the Clans." Victoria finished for her, "Isn't that right?"

"It would be nice." Liz acknowledged, "to have the fleets they mothballed and the knowledge they've got, and we don't get either one if they're kept out until they've radicalized further.  Look at the Clans if you want to see what we do NOT want to happen here. Bring 'em into the Club, and the Club has a ******' chance of influencing them, and access to what they bring to the table.  Play them against Comstar for the communications contracts, and if they're both in the club, they have to play nicer.  It worked on me, it will work on them."


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« Reply #40 on: 16 November 2019, 10:57:32 »
"The perfect is the mortal enemy of good enough."  Victoria argued later.

Karl, her brother, flushed with frustration, "Vicky, the very idea is insane.  it's TOO insane to work!"

"She's a genius."

"And her idea is absolutely nuts, kookolander crazy insane ten pallets short of a load, missing a gyroscope nuts.  Even in the impossible event you got a majority on the Star League council, it's playing with fire.  Sis, I know she's your friend, and she sure as heck has made a difference for us on the Clan front, we're holding when we had no reasonable way to hold and winning most of our confrontations, but this? inviting the Word of Blake into the Star League as a member? is absolute insanity, if you do this, we'll lose the support from the Com Guard units, we'll lose Focht War College, hell, we might even face renewed problems from the other Great Houses."

a thought seemed to strike him, "She's not being influenced by them, is she?" he asked.

"If she is, it's a hell of a trick and I want to learn how." Victoria noted, "For future reference, mind.

"Will we have to...will she be a problem if you tell her no?" he asked.

"I don't think so." Victoria sighed, "Lizzie is many things, but she's not one to betray us, unlike Bobby Kelswa Steiner, she's adaptable.  God, I wish mom was here to deal with this."

"Mom wouldn't be in this position to begin with." Karl stated, "She wasn't exactly winning them over after what dad pulled on the Marik heir, you moved mountains when you talked them down, Vicky, I couldn't have done that."

"you were ass-deep in the Clan front and fighting for all of our lives, Karl.  You didn't have the time to come back and help clean up Dad's mess...but you probably would have been...more adept with Tom Marik than I was, maybe you wouldn't have lost so much territory If I had been on the front, and YOU had been here."

Karl shook his head.  "No, Vicky, you've got a magic I never had, you can get people to be reasonable.  The best I ever managed to do was intimidate them into conceding...you're going to do it, aren't you?"

"Her logic's solid, Karl...or it sounded solid to me-in between the seizures and through the haze of drugs she's on...I was hoping you had an alternative line of logic, something I can use to counter her argument."

Karl sighed, "I don't.  I'm sorry big sis...as insane, as unworkable as her plan is, it still makes sense to do it, and that irks me in ways I can't even describe...hey, on a lighter note, how's the love-life?  You're going to need heirs, I'm not exactly a great option for picking up if you kick it of old age, and my Adjutant tells me it's more fun to be the Uncle than the Dad anyway."

Victoria sighed.  "Not so good.  Hohiro's fantastic, but his father has objections and so would both halves of the realm.  David got tired of waiting and got married...and Sun Tzu would be even more controversial than Hohiro, if he wasn't more interested in boys."

"So, look-you're the Archon Princess, Vicky, you don't have to marry for politics..let me rephrase that, you don't have to marry someone of equal standing, you are allowed to date, you know...if...there re rumors, Vicky."

"Rumors?"

"About you and your...pet." he said it delicately.  "You're not a in a-I mean, If you were I'd be totally okay with it.  we can find other means..."

"NO!! god no.  Liz is asexual, at least I think she is.  she's not into girls any more than I am, in fact I might go so far as to say she's repulsed by the idea of those kind of relations at all, not for everyone else, okay? but for her.  I think she'd be horrified at the idea more than..."

Karl chuckled.  "I was just checking.  Look, if you want, I'll do some scouting in the SLDF Regiments, see if there's a guy there i think can keep up with you, you just gotta promise to give him a chance if I find him, okay?"

"Just a chance?"

"It's gotta be more than convenience or politics, sis.  I'm going to keep an eye out for someone i think will do you right and that you'll actually like.  Mom's not here, Dad's not here, Aunt Nondi's losing her marbles so she's no help...so I guess I hafta get with Yvonne and Pete and we make it a family project to find you a man you can be happy with, if you don't have time to find one of your own."
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« Reply #41 on: 16 November 2019, 12:47:08 »
"The role of Government has been debated for millenia, not merely centuries.  How much power to invest, in however many people, to what means and what ends has been one of the great debates of human history.  Periodically, in human history, we alternate between wide-spread government, and dictatorships.  The fear of anarchy leading to totalitarian monarchies that cause a rising anger and rejection of totalitarian statuses for anarchic, often leading to worse dictatorial systems than existed previously.  The most difficult type of governance to maintain, is that of the Republican form, particularly the Democratic republican form.  Inevitably, as people do, the population stops paying attention to who they put in charge, leading to yet another form of dictatorship.  Whether it's Military dictatorship, Civilian Bureaucrat corruption, or Kakocracy, or Monarchial systems with their dynastic struggles, avoiding the question leads to absolute rule, and with it, absolute corruption.  I have seen this personally, so have most of you here tonight.  It's the problem of providing good government, in a way that it will continue to be good government if, or when, we finally retire or return to the dust from which all life is made.

"I've made my best try at helping to mitigate some of the worst of it, from within the system, because only a stable system CAN be changed in a way that benefits the public.  Revolution does not work for this, it leads to totalitarian local warlords and economic, social and cultural collapse.  I have done what I am able, but, I'm dying now.  Doctors have confirmed my lifespan is measured not in years or decades, but in weeks to months.

The Duty of the Civil Service, is to be apolitical, and to serve the public good.  More to the point, it is to serve the public
well.  This sometimes means misinterpretation or outright defiance of the very sovereign authorities that control our appointment, or in the case of some regions of the Star League, have the ability to snuff our lives at will.  This does not invalidate that duty.  WE must uphold the laws, and more importantly, the principles upon which our respective states are founded, with the understanding that only in a stable society, can positive changes be carried out.  it is largely a thankless task to do so, and none of you here, will likely ever be applauded for your work, and let me be clear here, you should not want it.  If you are being congratulated for the kind of work we do, then something dirty is in the works that will render it without value, will poison your results.  nevertheless, we MUST try.  Peace, Prosperity, and Progress must happen, or your children, your  children's children, generations down beyond you, will curse you for your moral cowardice.  Take a good look at the scars of the Star League Civil War, look hard at the cancer that grew from Kerensky's abandonment of his duty to the public, the Clans, a jumped up bandit kingdom living on the stolen treasures of a better era, seeking to impose their own ideal on all of humanity.  This is the danger we all face, that our posterity faces."

"For Government to be of value, it must first function at all, but immediately beyond that, it must serve the general public above all other considerations. Whether this is as fire-fighters, or law-enforcers, health inspectors or sewer technicians, the first role of any legitimate government is not to make the ruling class happy, but to assure they have something worth ruling at all, that they are not ruling over a wasteland littered with vanity projects and uncontrolled waste, that there is peace, there is harmony, and that there is common justice.  the separation from banditry and government is a fine distinction in the end-one is truly parasitic, the other, is a symbiote that provides a stable environment for the average person to thrive within.  I yeild my place to my successor, and wish you all the best."


-Elizabeth Ngo's resignation speech before the graduating class of NAIS, 3068.

Star league Council meeting, Orestes, FRR, July 7, 3068...

"Why did you let that one go?"  Sun Tzu Liao commented after the clip ended. 

"Pardon?" Victoria asked.  "I'm not sure I understand your question, Chancellor."

"How in the hell..no, why did you let her retire? That is exactly what...I couldn't write that speech, I want it, I want a copy...how did you let that fire-eater get loose?"

"She's dying, Sun-Tzu." Victoria stated, "She wanted to go home to do it. there's no cure and her treatments are failing to mitigate the pain she's in.  if the new treatments had worked, i would have pressed her to take up the Exchequer post."

"If they'd worked, you'd have a hard time keeping her to yourself." the Cappellan noted, "or not.  she's not easily bought or you wouldn't have allowed her to continue where she was.  Candace, at least, would love that thinking she's got, and it's more in line with OUR society than yours...do I have your support on the Territorial States issue?"

"Of course, if I have your support on the nominations I intend."

"You know you do, Victoria.  I can't believe it, in some ways.  Your security is incorruptible yet..."

"you've tried?"

"Of course I tried!" He scoffs, "absolutely tried, why would I deny it? just like I know you, and Thomas, and everyone at this meeting have tried with varying levels of success to penetrate mine!" he smiles, "My spymaster is absolutely infuriated to be second best to anyone.  it's a point of national pride, you know."

"We aren't going to war again." Victoria stated, "Regardless of what the Hasek-Davion line wants. This new Star League is too critical for us all."

"Oh, on that, I'm glad we're in agreement." the Chancellor said, "It is much, much better to be at peace, facing an external enemy, than to be tearing out our guts over dynastic struggles. what do you intend to ask of our new members?"

"I honestly don't know yet." Victoria answered.  "one third of the Federated Commonwealth is still occupied by the Clans, sixty percent of Free Rassalhague as well...but those won't be issues for the Taurians or the Canopians, but we do need to do something as a unified body."

"I'm going to nominate you for first lord as soon as Magnusson's term is up."

"Why?"

"Because you won't be free to invade the Cappellan Confederation if you're responsible on that level, of course." he tells her, adding "Your vassals won't either, and Shraplen will second it for the same reason on behalf of the Taurian Concordat. if you're tied up fighting the Clans, you're not settling old grudges or starting new ones-or at least, that's what I told the man to sell him on the idea."

"but why nominate me, what's in it for you?"

"She learns...you'll owe me a favor." he tells her, "One of significance, leverage, something I can use to my own people's benefit-and possibly yours as well.  Like it or not, betraying that isn't in your nature, Victoria, and I fully and openly intend to exploit the hell out of that nature-what your friend Elizabeth said, it's how you think, and why I'm willing to keep working with you to make this farce a success."
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« Reply #42 on: 16 November 2019, 13:46:02 »
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« Reply #43 on: 16 November 2019, 16:03:36 »
The Ngoverse is too fluid to pull together in a novel format, which is a crying shame. I'm loving how this branch is going ...

This was actually inspired (in part) by someone else's take on a 'verse where Victor was Victoria (the sister). I rooted it in the later version of the Ngoverse (the most recent version) with some callbacks to earlier iterations, but with some significant changes.

obviously, big sister Victoria would still be the heir apparent, but by changing Katherine to Karl, I got to thinking about how their relationship would be different, because katy would be different-so Karl went off to war, while Victoria largely had to run the store, first as Melissa's helper, and then, as the proprietor.  Both went military because in this version, our Katherine Analogue was a male and it's expected, (See: Peter and Yvonne) while Victoria had to go military at first because it's required to inherit.

the conclusion I came to, was that "Karl" would be a doting brother for the same reason that Katherine despised Victor-the satisfaction of dominant urges and the inherent sexism of Inner Sphere society-the very things that made Kathy go krazy are the things that make Karl almost a 'Knight' (due to their underlying natures, Katherine wasn't evil, she was thwarted and she was spoiled.  Karl would be neither.)  Their natures also inform how they interacted with Elizabeth.

Victor couldn't be a close ally to Liz, but Victoria can be-and be a check ON Liz.  Victor's great ability in the novels, is selecting and recruiting subordinates.  He's not the great strategist, he's fundamentally a good leader, a delegator rather than being a strong actor.  Victoria, of course, is MORE of that, much more, a better deal maker and consensus builder than Katherine was, because she's not struggling against imagined enemies the way Katherine necessarily did, while Karl is a good "Front line" leader, with strong grasp of tactics, because that energy was wasted on Katherine as political maneuvering with no long-term understanding. IOW Karl is a fantastic 'fix this problem right now' man, but not a long-term planner in the sense of, say, Focht.  They're both, by the simple fact of oppositing their gender, in the place they really needed to be the whole time (but couldn't due to the need for conflict in the main timelines.)

Their differences go further though, than just gender swapping.

Karl's a good tactician, but he's got Kathy's ruthless streak-he's willing to spend blood Victor wouldn't to achieve a mission, and he's willing to step past boundaries that prime-Victor would never ever, touch.  Thus making him a bit of a Patton-type general compared to Victor's Bradley-esque persona. 

Victoria is every bit as talented in her way as a politician, as Katherine, but she's got morals and a sense of Noblesse-Oblige that Katherine did not have.  She's also got a longer view and a willingness to compromise that Kate didn't have, and of course, she isn't struggling to usurp someone above her, so she's marginally free of the corruptive influences that Katherine embraced.  Though not entirely.  Liz Ngo is Victoria's "Tormano" in terms of political strategy, which actually works to amplify Victoria's virtues by way of Victoria having to control Liz.

and Liz is more comfortable with Victoria's control, because the Steiner-Davion heir listens, and has the same charisma-only in female form, with better political education due to spending more time with mom and the people who actually make the realm run.  This of course, is problematic in a setting made for and about warfare-which is probably the biggest reason it wasn't the take that made it to print (and explains prime Victor's often mud-headed actions and thoughts-he was in the wrong role the entire time.)

a few notes for the completionists out there...

Victoria: Looks like the best features of her mother and father, crammed onto a petite frame.  Essentially Victor-as-a-girl, of course.

Karl: Six feet six inches tall, built like a powerhouse, with a blonde crew-cut.  This guy looks like a recruiting poster even with 35 hours of combat grime on his face.  Women swoon at the sight of him.  Karl is extremely protective of his sisters, and often tries (less than successfully) to mentor his younger brother Peter.  While he is far from being the political naif that Prime Victor is, he's less interested in politics, than he is in winning battles.  war has fed his cravings for glory endlessly, and peacetime is his time to prepare for the next one, and that's the limits of his actual interest in politics right there-he tends to ONLY be interested in issues that impact his ability to win wars against his sister's enemies, thogh he is absolutely a monarchist in leanings and very concerned about the application of Salic Laws when it comes to making sure there is an heir to his sister, he doesn't want to be stuck with 'that job'-at least, not when he can express his superiority by attacking the Clans, or planning to attack the Clans.  Karl dreams of the day he can claim to be the liberator of the Tamar Pact, scourge of the Clans, and Protector of the Archon-Princess.
That is his 'bag', his 'thing'.  to that end, he does everything in his power to make sure Victoria can do what needs to be done, including doing things behind her back to make her job easier.

okay, there is a LITTLE bit of conniving there, and a lot of people who might have challenged Victoria's policies or her reign itself have found themselves waking up dead, or disappearing without a trace...
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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #44 on: 16 November 2019, 16:12:24 »
Heh, sounds like Karl found the Rabid Fox/Loki speed dial button...  ^-^

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« Reply #45 on: 16 November 2019, 16:43:02 »
I've always like your characters; there's depth to them.
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« Reply #46 on: 16 November 2019, 17:06:57 »
Nha Tranh, Kowloon, Elizabeth House, 6 AM.

"No regrets?" he asked.

"No ties, no strings, no regrets." she stretched out, catlike, and yawned.  "Kind of surprised, you don't have this kind of rep.  mmm...want some ca'phe before you report in?"

"Absolutely." he tells her, "Founders, is it really zero six hundred?" she walked without a limp for him, bare as she was when she was born, raven hair streaked with silver.

"Aou yes...your men are going to be wondering where you went, and what you were up to." she looked over her shoulder and winked.

"Let them wonder.  I'm glad I accepted the job now." he tells her, "We almost didn't, especially knowing how you feel about the Clans."

she pours.  "You haven't been 'Clan' troops since almost before I was born though." she purrs, "Totally gone native, even...your ancestors would be scandalized."

He laughs and pulls his underpants on.  "I'm really surprised though, I saw your performance in front of the Estates General in 3054, Liz, the knife speech."

"One of my better ones." she hands him a steaming cup of Kowloonese coffee, and sits on a wicker-and-cloth chair, legs folded and sipping.  "I'm still proud of that one, even though the press wanted me crucified for giving it...ah...one of the small benefits...I can still feel you from last night. you were magnificent, Jaime. best I've ever had. better than I ever imagined."

"That's not hard, Liz, you were still...intact. what changed your mind?"

"I'm lonely, you were bored, we hit it off, and I only have to worry about Kowloon now." she tells him, "I decided if I'm going to risk it, I might as well do it with one of Patrick's childhood heroes, and Kell wasn't available, wouldn't be willing...I was surprised you were, even after we sat talking for twelve hours."

"It'll be alright as long as it doesn't get back to my daughter, she might have some objections." he smirks, "Younger woman and all that."

"I'm dead in five years, Jaime, if I'm very lucky, I make it five more years before everything decays and kills me.  that makes me middle-aged at best, just two oldsters who had a fling, right? no regrets?"

"None here." he confirmed, then stopped.  "Liz, you might still want to be checked out, we didn't exactly use protection and it's been a long time since I needed a booster shot for my...that is, I might not be shooting blanks."

"No worries." she sighed.  "nothing to be concerned about. nobody gets it their first time...but I'll get checked out by a corpsman or a doctor, we don't want any blessed accidents, do we?"

He pulled his pants on, buckled the belt, and looked at her, "I wouldn't say no to another go...soon?"

She smiles.  "For a legend? we'll see, I'm sure you have all the girls chasing you could ever want."

she shrugs into a robe, and makes them breakfast.  they  eat, they laugh, he gives her a kiss on the forehead before leaving.

10:30 AM Nha Tranh time, Coast Guard Base New Saigon, northern coast, south continent, Kowloon...

"What?" 

"I said, the ova are fertilized. you're pregnant.  Two viables." Dr. Mai Huyn is the chief medical officer for the Kowloon Coast Guard, and Elizabeth's official ducal physician.

"That's not possible, we did it one time."

"what can I say? you're going to need to change your medication regimen, unless you want to opt for a surrogate...and this also means-"

"It means I have LESS time. I know how Cholmann's works.  jesus, I give in once, just one time, Mai! Statistically-god dammit.  i won't be there to raise them!"

"You'll need to contact the father." Mai tells her, "Unless you want me to assign an Adjutant to the task?"

"No...I'll take care of it."

"We could always terminate, your body might return to its original timeframe-"

"Mai, I'm catholic and not one of those New Avalon heretics, no, I can't just have them scraped out of my womb! it's just...inconvenient that it has to happen NOW.  Schedule the pre-natal care, and find me a surrogate in case we have to transplant them because I got too far gone.  as of right now, my children are higher priority than I am, and I'll sign a ducal order to that effect if you or anyone else thinks they can blanch me on this."

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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #47 on: 16 November 2019, 17:11:35 »
A surrogate is probably a sounder decision.
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« Reply #48 on: 16 November 2019, 17:44:33 »
A surrogate is probably a sounder decision.

well, this was ripped from the headlines of the FC'62 game.  at the time, it was kind of a joke, and we even did a dice roll for it.  First time with a man, and it's a famous, older man who looks like Sean Connery (Jaime Wolf's art back in the day looked inspired by Sean Connery) and is old enough to be her GRANDFATHER.

and...

she gets pregnant.  not sure if I got the tone the right level of hilarious here, or if it's more 'pheelz' or just flat.  dunno.  I know I was hoping to giggle when I set about dropping it here, but the expected giggle fit didn't happen.  I guess I'm not as puerile as I used to be.
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« Reply #49 on: 16 November 2019, 18:17:57 »
I don't know which is more of a shock, Liz getting knock up by Jamie or that Sunny boy is into boys.

Shocking I say!
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« Reply #50 on: 16 November 2019, 19:08:13 »
well, this was ripped from the headlines of the FC'62 game.  at the time, it was kind of a joke, and we even did a dice roll for it.  First time with a man, and it's a famous, older man who looks like Sean Connery (Jaime Wolf's art back in the day looked inspired by Sean Connery) and is old enough to be her GRANDFATHER.

and...

she gets pregnant.  not sure if I got the tone the right level of hilarious here, or if it's more 'pheelz' or just flat.  dunno.  I know I was hoping to giggle when I set about dropping it here, but the expected giggle fit didn't happen.  I guess I'm not as puerile as I used to be.
Um ...Jaime has access to Wolf Dragoon medicine. That means Iron Wombs. Nice little outpatient procedure, and you can go about your business while the foetus develops (hey, you can even record body and voice samples ala Honor Harrington to get the whole ‘hearing mummy while in the womb’ effect).

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« Reply #51 on: 16 November 2019, 19:17:32 »
I don't know which is more of a shock, Liz getting knock up by Jamie or that Sunny boy is into boys.

Shocking I say!
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« Reply #52 on: 16 November 2019, 20:36:24 »
well, this was ripped from the headlines of the FC'62 game.  at the time, it was kind of a joke, and we even did a dice roll for it.  First time with a man, and it's a famous, older man who looks like Sean Connery (Jaime Wolf's art back in the day looked inspired by Sean Connery) and is old enough to be her GRANDFATHER.

and...

she gets pregnant.  not sure if I got the tone the right level of hilarious here, or if it's more 'pheelz' or just flat.  dunno.  I know I was hoping to giggle when I set about dropping it here, but the expected giggle fit didn't happen.  I guess I'm not as puerile as I used to be.
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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #53 on: 16 November 2019, 23:49:59 »
Um ...Jaime has access to Wolf Dragoon medicine. That means Iron Wombs. Nice little outpatient procedure, and you can go about your business while the foetus develops (hey, you can even record body and voice samples ala Honor Harrington to get the whole ‘hearing mummy while in the womb’ effect).
  With how Kowloonese feel about the Clan eugenics program?  These are people who fought Clan Battlesuits with small-arms and bayonets rather than be subjugated by ‘Nicky Kerensky’s Space Nazis’.  A surrogate is an organic person, meaning their bearing the children to term in Liz’s stead is an act of human generosity and would actively appeal to Kowloon and its mores; an Iron Womb would all but make the heirs ‘Tank-born’ themselves, and they would never in a million years be accepted by the ’Loonies as ‘their own’, much less fit to rule over Kowloon.

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« Reply #54 on: 17 November 2019, 03:22:40 »
  With how Kowloonese feel about the Clan eugenics program?  These are people who fought Clan Battlesuits with small-arms and bayonets rather than be subjugated by ‘Nicky Kerensky’s Space Nazis’.  A surrogate is an organic person, meaning their bearing the children to term in Liz’s stead is an act of human generosity and would actively appeal to Kowloon and its mores; an Iron Womb would all but make the heirs ‘Tank-born’ themselves, and they would never in a million years be accepted by the ’Loonies as ‘their own’, much less fit to rule over Kowloon.
I’m talking about the physical tech, not the bug nuts eugenics program. But yeah, I suppose that’d be a PR issue.

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« Reply #55 on: 17 November 2019, 08:08:29 »
Tharkad...

"sweet jesus, even Elizabeth is having kids before I have!"  Victoria stopped, "What did he do? was there coercion?  the Liz Ngo I know is terrified of sex..."

"She claimed it was mutually consensual, and the examination record showed none of the telltale bruising from forced penetration, her system was...well, none of the drugs IN her system would work for a roofie."  Kuriatis explained.

Karl patiently examined a painting of an ancestor while the Archon Princess reacted to the news. 

"How is this going to impact our relationship with Wolf's Dragoons?" he finally interjected.

"Well, their legal team is already researching local and national laws regarding child custody and inheritance, General Maeve Wolf has registered a request to investigate and see if Duchess Ngo used any sort of coercion, and MRBC is threatening to look into this as a possible contract breach by one or both parties, the Examiners have already boarded ship from Outreach to interview the..ah...witnesses."  the DMI man stated. 

His Loki counterpart cleared her throat, "We don't expect them to find evidence of anything more than a post-retirement fling, Highness, though with...unfortunate consequences for the mother."

"Unfortunate?" Karl asked.  "HOW unfortunate?"

"She's effectively cut her projected lifespan from five years to somewhere in the range of eighteen months-Cholmann's syndrome accelerates in phase two radically in the presence of the hormones associated with pregnancy, and Liz is carrying twins."  Victoria stated, "Fraternal Twins."

"That will certainly confuse inheritance issues." Karl noted, "Ngo Industries is sufficiently valuable to the realm that someone is going to have to run it in her absence, as in someone who won't loot it and run it into the ground, someone capable and loyal.  has she named a successor yet?"

"They aren't publicly traded, so a hostile takeover would have to be directly from a creditor, and nationalization requires an Archon's order for a company of that size that isn't publicly traded."  the financial officer from Lohengrin brought in for the brief noted.  "We haven't found anyone she owes money to."

Victoria laughed.  "for ******'s sake of course you haven't.  'Ngo Industries Credit Union' is in-house financing, she loans other people money! I remember she had a loan out from the Central Bank here on Tharkad back in '59 or '60, she scraped and counted every millphennig and had it paid off in two years at three percent interest, and she termed that 'usurious' rates! They're overcapitalized to a degree that if tehy had shareholders at all, those shareholders would be screaming at the courts to break the company up for a bloody enormous one-time payday."

"What was the loan for?" Karl inquired, "I was on teh front..."

"She was liquidating solid assets to build the ships she was using to get supplies to you, Karl, it cost her so much she had to take out a twenty two billion kroner loan to make deadline on the expanded facility orbiting Boojum, and she absolutely would NOT deal with Comstar for financing-they actually moved the physical money by ship from Coventry and Tharkad to Kowloon, and moved the repayment back the same way. she very nearly gave me a heart-attack when she explained the operation. we had to print special bills just to make the cargo dropship portable."

"Where are these...special bills now?" he asked.

"When she brought them back, I had the money re-entered into the system digitally, and then had the special bills burnt...I kept one as a souvenir." here, Victoria reached into her brassiere in a most unlady like fashion, and produced a slightly crumpled note.

20,000,000 Kroner.

"oh my god...is that-?"

"Grandma's face, yes. the reverse is a picture from the Star League era."  she turned it over, "It was our little joke.  Grandma, the last truly 'great' Archon before the Federated Commonwealth on the face, and Lizzie's ancestor Tranh Truk Ngo, the impaler at Elbar...and I guarantee, if this were made widespread and public, the collector value of the note would exceed the face value just based on rarity."  Victoria sighed, "For Liz to do something this reckless?"

"She planned it, maybe the Dragoons aren't off their nut to question how 'consensual' that liaison was." Karl finished, "or...and hear me out here.  I have a different theory."

"Which is?" Victoria folded the very rare piece of currency and replaced it in her bra.

"She was desperate, lonely, and feeling disconnected." he said it firmly.  "She's a builder, Vicky, you told me that yourself.  Liz Ngo loves big projects and she loves working them to death, and we gave her a huge project, bigger than rebuilding her family's landhold, bigger than expanding her company...and then, she had to retire before she finished-I've seen it with soldiers and officers we've had to forcibly retire, you've seen it with Aunt Nondi, you know I'm right about this."

Victoria glanced at Kuriatis.  "I think I agree with your brother, Highness.  I've seen it happen, like a long-time abstainer going to a bar right after leaving the service, or my mom, getting sick of her diet and indulging in chocolate cake, which with her diabetes is like playing russian roulette with a revolver that only has six chambers and is loaded with four bullets.  Media is filled with the glory of love, sex is something that sells to the masses, and she's a human being, celibate for pretty much her entire life because of exactly what finally happened."

"Five rounds in a six shot magnum and she didn't hit the empty...god, this is going to be a mess...when did this turn into a holonovel soap opera again?"

"What do you want done?" Karl asked.

Victoria closed her eyes, "I want...our relationship with Wolf's Dragoons preserved, I want Ngo Industries to continue to be an asset to the Federated Commonwealth, I want..." she opened her eyes.  "I want my friend cured, and if she can't be cured, I want to be able to assure that her heir or heirs are loyal supporters of the Federated Commonwealth and the Steiner-Davion legacy.  I want stability, I want Prosperity, and I want all of the Tamar Pact back in the Federated Commonwealth by whatever means are necessary, no matter how long it takes without sacrificing that stability or that prosperity."  she sighed, "I want to win it all, Karl."

"As you command, My Princess." Karl Steiner-Davion said, the relief in his eyes was genuine.

"First, we settle any issues with MRBC and Wolf's Dragoons..including custody and inheritance since his bloodline will have a claim on a second major industrial world through the children." Victoria stated, "Second, I want NAIS working on everything that can be dug up about Cholmann's syndrome, and tell Phelan Kell I want some of his scientists on this as well-Humanity hasn't cracked that nut in almost a thousand years, it was beyond Star League medicine to do it, I want to see if that Clanner medicine can do what their ancestors could not...at the very least, i want those kids to be healthy, call it my baby-shower gift to Liz, and I don't mind if it hits the newsies.  Third, Karl, begin working up the operational planning and logistics for a counter invasion of our occupied sectors, focus on doing to the Clanners what they did to us-hitting hard and fast and rolling them up, talk to your man Christofiori about it, his raid into the Falcon zone is a precedent I want to see repeated and improved upon.  for far too long, a pernicious foreign enemy has stood on FedCom soil, I want you to begin fixing that-see if you can marshall help from the Member states to increase your chances, I know you have friends among many of our former enemies and not a few neutrals, we're going to repeat Bulldog, but stronger, harder, and faster."

Karl positively beamed "Right away." he announced, then he asked, "And..?"

"It's been long enough since the last official visit by the Archon Princess to Kowloon. I'm going to contact a few of our mutual acquaintances and arrange a baby shower, then begin the work of making sure you have the infrastructure to carry out your part of this-I know you can do it, Little brother, but I want to have you come home to your wife after with all your bits attached to you." she smiled at him, "Sarissa is a lovely woman, I think she would look poorly in widow's black, and I know I would personally desire NOT to lose you."


HPG Station Outreach, roughly the same time...

"Founder's balls, father! what were you thinking??"  General Maeve Wolf demanded over the channel.  "She's younger than I am!! she's young enough to be your GREAT grand-daughter!!"

"She's limber." Jaime Wolf stated, "And it's been a long time, and for a moment, she reminded me of your mother...and she insisted on no strings, only it's not working out that way."

"you got her pregnant and it's going to kill her, Dad.  did you know what she has?"

he looks uncomfortable on the image, "I do now.  she still insists she won't press me on the paternity, but that's not the point, is it?"

"Dad, when you said you were taking a Cadre job, teaching 'loonies to be 'mechwarriors, it was supposed to be a busywork project that brought in a little good will and a fairly substantial amount of money, along with a substantial favor owed by the Federated Commonwealth, to us. Now MRBC is involved, I'm having to make midnight calls to New Avalon and Tharkad, if malfeasance is in any way suspected we're looking at fines for contract breach on the conduct clause...and, if they live, I'm going to have siblings young enough to be my grandkids, loaded with a time-bomb in their DNA."

"This has, in retrospect, occurred to me.  We'll come through the MRBC with flying colors, don't be concerned about that.  Focus on keeping things friendly with the FedCom, and our other clients.  unless something DOES come up, we're in the clear."

"I'm just wondering how she seduced you, Dad."

"I liked her, we hit it off, it was supposed to be a one-time thing...hell, I still kind of like her.  Not enough to make it a relationship...but she was a fun roll and she's smart. Smart is sexy, even for an old guy like me."

"Report says they're fraternal twins, dad, do you want me to have our legal team pursue custody? she won't live to raise them..."

"yes.  at least one.  and send some of our...legacy medical personnel up here to check their genetics, maybe they can work out a way to disarm that genetic time bomb. those kids give us another hook into the Federated Commonwealth and the Inner Sphere, one more link we can use to maintain our position."

"And you want to see if they've got any talent." Maeve stated, "Right?"

"That too. My kids, right? I'd like to think Wolf's Dragoons will have a lock on that kind of potential, and if we don't? then I want to know that as well."


"Do you even have feelings for her?" Maeve asked.

Jaime looked thoughtful, "no. not really.  she could have been a Cappie Bar-girl, but I did end up getting her pregnant, and I don't shy from my responsibilities, especially when there is an advantage to be gained and money to make."

Maeve sighed, "good." and relaxed.  "I'll scramble the teams on the next ship out."


"If you have to ask permission, then it's no longer a Right, it has been turned into a Privilege-something that can be and will be taken from you when convenient."

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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #56 on: 17 November 2019, 08:20:05 »
Amusing as always...  ;D

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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #57 on: 17 November 2019, 10:26:53 »
Bien Hoa Training Range, South Continent, Kowloon...

"If I wasn't looking right at it, I would think you were insane."  Jaime Wolf commented. 

"You know what it is?" Charles 'Chuck' Vanh was a local from the south shore of Golden Lake, an enormous inland, mostly freshwater sea polluted with germanium salts and other metals, the size of the assembled Amazon basin, and deep.  Somewhere down below those three hundred meter deep waters, a continental fracture had been spreading and bubbling magma since sometime before humanity came down from the trees in Africa, hundreds of light years away.

Kowloon's people were as...characteristic as their topography, and Jaime knew more than most Clan-Born about them, about their ancestors, and their history.  Here on the planet itself, that history has a habit of bubbling up like lava.

"Hechatonchieres class.  Late war Rim Worlds production.  Eighty five tons, forty kilometer walking speed and extinct since before the Exodus." Jaime recited, "The clans...kept tech specs but never encountered one intact."  he looked at the one-armed rancher, "Where did you find it?"

"There's about thirty six of them buried in a bunker in Minsky's Folly."  Charles stated, "What's it worth?"

The paint had peeled, and there was the characteristic crosshatch corrosion of Ferro-Fibrous armor left exposed in a damp, salt-rich environment, but not so much that the capture markings were completely gone.

"These are war-captures from the Amaris war." he announced, "I would have to ask Cranston for his evaluation, but to the right collector they'd be worth a fair amount...you found it in a bunker?"

"Most of a bunker." Charles amended, "The roof and upper levels collapsed some time ago, maybe a quake plus runoff in the limestone.  The reinforcements were pretty shoddy.  I'd say it's about a kilometer from where Condit and his bandit friends were searching back in '51 and '52, before Liz took over, we assumed it was something big they were after, since they kept hitting the folly, and there was a shit-ton of old Star League armor in the bottom of prospect gully,b ut that shit was all used up, too ruined by exposure to be any good.  stuff that was any good, was picked over by scavengers back in the Duchess' grandfather's day or earlier."

"I...see." Jaime frowned, "did you find any records in the rubble?"

"I haven't searched it fully." Vanh confessed, "Took a heavy crew just to get this thing out of the hole, figured I'd bring it up here and the military school could decide if they want to dig up the rest."

captured Rim Worlds 'mechs, intact, here? Jaime knew Kerensky's orders for Exodus, including the sealed ones, from the preparation.  The 171st had been sent home without a scrap of the Star League surplus they'd been given when they joined the war effort, stripped of weapons even, because the Great Father didn't want them to be able to launch another effective rebellion against the Rim Worlds Republic once it was stabilized.  he hadn't wanted another Dinh Diep incident, and after seeing them at Eagle's Nest, Elbar, and Terra, he considered them both effective, and effectively impossible to control.

"Feel like showing me?" he asked.  There were discipline records from right before the orders for preparation were set in motion-directed at members of the leadership of the SLDF's 90th heavy assault Division, 'Kerensky's Sledgehammers'-one of the few SLDF units that worked closely with Colonel Tranh's 171st Volunteers without issues.  Very few of that unit joined Exodus.

"Sure, we can take my Hummingbird down." Vanh proposed.

Jaime felt a little apprehension at that-the single-engine prop planes aren't fast, aren't particularly durable, but are very easy to repair and often used by the rural families that mostly hold sway along the eastern shore of Golden Lake.

"How about we take something...more substantial?" he suggests, "I can have a Type Seven ready in half an hour, and we'll be able to bring a team from the teaching cadre."

"Works sir. Airfield in half an hour?"

Minsky's Folly, Section 2437421 South Range

there wasn't anywhere even a Type VII shuttle craft, capable of VTOL landing could actually put down, so they landed on a nearby plateau and took horses along the narrow trails.

Horses.

The Folly is a canyon system that would give the Grand Canyon on earth envious fits, a spiderweb of shattered and eroded land the size of Texas.  Something cataclysmic hit here a few million years ago, and left this enormous scarred and eroded webwork of gullys, gorges, and mesas.  The Folly itself is the dominant feature, a lump of near-metallic grade copper five hundred miles across that the original colonists almost landed on thinking it was arable land.

"People have starved to death getting lost down here."  Vanh said, "Well, that and rock slides."

it was another three hours for the Tech team to follow them to the dig-site.

the 'bunker' was huge.  Not in the sense of a Brian cache, or Brian fortress, but in the sense that the cavern that someone had improperly tried to fortify was gigantic, easily big enough to hide nearly a division of weapons and equipment...though it was likely smaller before the upper levels collapsed onto the lower ones.  water stains marked the walls, broken stalactites and stalagmites were scattered between buried or partially buried war machines.

"Like the heads on Easter Island." Jaime commented.

"Yah, the're pretty well buried." Vanh agreed, "Well?"

"I think before you look for buyers, you should have told the Duchess." Jaime stated, "This is hers, courtesy of the 90th Heavy Assault, I think."

"Huh, funny that." Vanh said, rubbing his stump with his good hand. 

"We'll know how much of it can be salvaged once the teams have gone through it."  Jaime amended.  "I've never had the chance to drive one, except in simulations..."



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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #58 on: 17 November 2019, 10:41:23 »
Is this design posted anywhere?  ???

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Re: To Stand before the Archon...
« Reply #59 on: 17 November 2019, 12:39:43 »
The “ "Hechatonchieres” is from the Black Tiger stories I believe.
Semi modular design.
Might have the design posted on the “Our Battletech” page.
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