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Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« on: 13 February 2013, 13:41:21 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II.

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #1 on: 13 February 2013, 21:23:11 »
PDF, p150-151, Stefan Amaris-class battleship:

The twin NAC/30 bays in the broadside and fore- and aft-quarters arcs should do 60 damage at short to long range, not 40.

EDIT: The same issue also applies to the record sheet.

I'm also getting the cargo tonnage coming out to 101440 tons and not 97600 tons, assuming that the marines' quarters require 7 tons each. This is both manually calculating and using HMA with the latter adjusted for where the program rounds incorrectly.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #2 on: 14 February 2013, 21:56:18 »
PDF, p148-149, Lee-class DropShip:

The Lee was introduced prior to the Overlord (2756 vs 2762), making the statements that the Lee is based upon the Overlord anachronistic.

Assuming that the introduction date, including the 2749 project start date quoted in the fluff, isn't moved to later than 2762, the following fluff needs to be changed:

"A consortium of three naval shipyards presented General Kerensky plans for the Lee in 2749; massing almost as much as two Overlords, the Lee also carried almost twice the Overlord’s armor protection, and more than twice the weapons, in a hull that could accelerate quicker and was more maneuverable than the SLDF’s standard battalion transport."

Suggestion: All mentions of Overlord should be changed to Dictator, given that TRO3075 describes that design as the primary 'Mech transport in the campaign against Amaris.

"The ’Mech carrier, based on the standard developed by the Overlord, carried a reinforced BattleMech battalion, supported by a single aerospace squadron and two additional small craft..."

Suggestion: Should read "The ’Mech carrier, setting a standard later copied by the Overlord, carried a reinforced BattleMech battalion, supported by a single aerospace squadron and two additional small craft"

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #3 on: 15 February 2013, 08:01:41 »
pdf, p. 16, Janos Grec, 1st paragraph

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He provided combat air patrols for the 16th BattleMech division on Royal. There he made the acquaintance of a young captain in the division’s BattleMech forces, Aleksandr, the start of a long working relationship between the pair.

Error: It was the 160th BattleMech division on Royal.

Solution: exchange 16th by 160th.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #4 on: 15 February 2013, 11:16:31 »
In the write up for the Lee-Class Dropship, they mention an aerospace carrier version the Dropship that,  "brought forty aerospace fighters—two full wings—and an additional squadron of assault craft into the battle." An SLDF Aerospace Wing is composed of 54 Fighters, not 20.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #5 on: 15 February 2013, 11:58:01 »
PDF, p148-149, Lee-class DropShip:

The Lee was introduced prior to the Overlord (2756 vs 2762), making the statements that the Lee is based upon the Overlord anachronistic.


Or there was an earlier Overlord.  The (2762) is the variant most common during the Succession Wars.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #6 on: 19 February 2013, 18:02:11 »
PDF, p84:

Reads: [On 3 May, a western flanking attack through Sayama, Inagi and Kawaski...

The author probably meant Kawasaki


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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #7 on: 20 February 2013, 16:11:18 »
PDF, p.177:

Reads: ...the First Circuit abandoned plans to secure a broader swathe...

The word the author was looking for is swath.  Swathe, while a real and related word, is not correct in this case, as the line is a variation on the idiom to cut a swath.

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #8 on: 21 February 2013, 15:04:01 »
Page 144, "Variants"
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The final -04 chassis, also based on a stripped -01, was a unique design that carried a gauss rifle as well as an ER PPC, but relied on a quintet of SRM 4 launchers and a pair of medium lasers to deliver a withering short-range fusillade.

Problem: AEM-04 Comes in 1 ton overweight.

Solution: Removing a single Medium Laser keeps the ballistic/missile weapons fed with (2) tons of ammunition each while not dramatically changing the unit's description:

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #9 on: 01 March 2013, 04:43:48 »
PDF, pg. 94, left column, last paragraph:

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...throughout more than decade of occupation, the Republicans permanently stationed no troops within Australia’s interior...

Suggestion: change "more than decade" to "more than a decade".


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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #10 on: 16 April 2013, 17:06:06 »
Print edition, page 97, map of North America:

The North American map on this page seems to be missing the Great Lakes. (On Page 24, Jerome Blake is noted as hailing from "the Great Lakes Administrative District of Terra's North America", inplying that the lakes are there in-universe; unless they are supposed to have dried up by then, with the district name referring to their former presence.)

EDIT: On reflection, there appear to be very faint colourations in the rough locations of the lakes, but it's quite hard to tell in the print edition if they are actually there. (And in any event, even if they are supposed to show up, they should be much more visible in this scale.)
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #11 on: 17 April 2013, 03:15:00 »
Print edition, page 97, map of North America:

The North American map on this page seems to be missing the Great Lakes. (On Page 24, Jerome Blake is noted as hailing from "the Great Lakes Administrative District of Terra's North America", inplying that the lakes are there in-universe; unless they are supposed to have dried up by then, with the district name referring to their former presence.)

EDIT: On reflection, there appear to be very faint colourations in the rough locations of the lakes, but it's quite hard to tell in the print edition if they are actually there. (And in any event, even if they are supposed to show up, they should be much more visible in this scale.)

Not errata. The maps are there to show administrative borders, not be a detailed topographical map. Since the background is elevation based, lakes and such are not very visible. But they are irrelevant to what the map is designed to show (the borders). Most the US districts are state based. The Great Lakes Administrative District consists roughly of the states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Illinois.

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #12 on: 17 April 2013, 16:56:12 »
Understood, thank you.


There are a few other points:


*Print edition, page 69, map of Europe (and the Mediterranean):

On Page 71, there is a reference to a Ukraine Administrative District, but there is no outline matching Ukraine on the map. (As a side note, Belarus has no outline either, though it's not clear if Minsk is intended to be part of the same administrative district as Moscow.)


*Print edition, page 81, map of central and eastern Asia:

On the same page, Harbin is referred to as the capital of the Manchuria Autonomous Region, which seems to also cover the Korean Peninsula. (The note on China's divisions in the author's note on page 68 refer to the lines being drawn based on provinces and autonomous regions.) If Korea is intended to stand as its own province, there may need to be a boundary dividing it from Manchuria.


*Print edition, page 82, Hokkaido and Northern Honshu:

The reference to the "Tsurugu Straits" should instead be to the Tsugaru Strait.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #13 on: 16 June 2013, 19:49:47 »
STEFAN AMARIS Class Battleship, P. 150 PDF version

*Fluff of the Battleship mentions the ships of the Class being fitted with lithium-fusion battery systems.  Three RWR built units being refitted in Hegemony prior to the Coup, and later 2 captured by the SLDF being completed. 

*Problem:  Ship's Record Sheets and Article's Notes do not offical mention the presence of the lithium-fusion batteries.  If first 3 units did get them, would that construde a sub-variant with LF-Batteries.  The batteries fitting were key (cover story) reason why the battleships were in Hegemony in the first place

*Solutions: Add lithium-fusion battery to record sheet and ship notes.

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #14 on: 14 January 2014, 14:15:20 »
Per Xotl, I've got permission to post this errata:

PDF Pg 5, story "Hard Justice", second column, Paragraph 2:

"By the power vested in me by the Curia and His Holiness, I excommunicate you and condemn you to eternal Purgatory."

Problem: No Catholic would ever say that sentence -- first off, ecclesiatical powers do not come from the Curia (Their closest analogue would perhaps be the Cabinet here in the US), so no priest or other religious would ever claim authority in the name of the Curia. [edit in for clarification -- Catholics believe that such authority comes from Christ, who gave the keys to "loose and bind to St. Peter, and that priests act in persona Christi at certain times through the sacrament of Holy Orders.] More problematic is "and condemn you to eternal Purgatory." Catholic dogma (which is unchangeable) declares that Purgatory is a place where souls are cleansed of any remaining venial sin or lingering temporal effects of already-forgiven mortal sin in preparation to entering Heaven. It is not a place to be condemned to and by definition it is not, and cannot be, eternal, nor is it synonymous with Hell. Nor can any Catholic actually condemn one to Hell... though given the character's state of mind, he might have forgotten that in the heat of the moment.

[edit in for further thoughts -- Further, though certain members of the clergy can delcare excommunications for specific acts (and it takes a lot of doing to get a declared excommunication imposed -- usually it's for very public heresy or attempting to consecrate priests or bishops without Vatican approval)  following a tribunal investigation, according to the Code of Canon Law (which is changeable, to a certain degree), an attack on the Pope is cause for automatic " latae sententiae" excommunication the moment the act is committed.

And if that member of the Greenhaven Gestapo wasn't Catholic to begin with (the story seems to be silent one way or the other), pronouncing excommunication would be pointless anyway -- it's an ecclesiastical penalty. A Catholic priest imposing an excommunication on a non-Catholic would be like ComStar declaring an interdict on a planet without an HPG.

At any rate, excommunication does not expel one from the church. Even if excommunicated, a Catholic still is obligated to go to Mass on Sunday and Holy Days, but they must not receive Communion until the penalty is lifted. It also bars the one under it from receiving the other six sacraments -- a member of the clergy, usually a bishop or the Pope, with authority to lift the excommunication is necessary for the penitent to celebrate the sacrament of confession. It's also not synonymous with "damned to Hell."]

Suggested fix: Perhaps something like "'You excommunicated yourself when you helped to murder Pope Clement.  May God have mercy on your soul.' As he pulled the trigger, he whispered ...'for I cannot.'"
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #15 on: 27 May 2014, 19:56:27 »
Page 137, Vector, Variants section:

Ignore the reference to the variants having TAG in Mast Mounts, as this was and continues to be illegal.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #16 on: 16 September 2014, 21:23:22 »
Pueblo Dropship record sheet:

Nose shows 2 ER Medium Lasers

Problems:
Tech Readout shows them as standard Medium Lasers
Inner Sphere ER Mediums were not developed until the Clan Invasion

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #17 on: 07 August 2015, 14:39:28 »
p. 73 of the PDF, bottom paragraph.

"...the almost two dozen gates and ally ports..."

should probably be

"...the almost two dozen gates and sally ports..."

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #18 on: 13 August 2015, 14:21:58 »
p. 85 of the PDF, left column, final paragraph:

"...Ninth Mechanized Infantry Division (the Pride of Puget Sound) brought vast swathes..."

should be:

"...Ninth Mechanized Infantry Division (the Pride of Puget Sound) brought vast swaths..."

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also, right column, final paragraph:

"...intended to take control of a large swathe of territory."

should be:

"...intended to take control of a large swath of territory."


Xotl: swath is American English.  Swathe is fine.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #19 on: 26 September 2015, 06:30:03 »
PDF, page 48, "Epsilon Eridani and Pollux", last paragraph, third sentence:

"Lighting assaults were the tactic of choice for both armies, which dropped whole brigades on individual targets to overwhelm and quickly eliminate them."

Suggest delete and replace with:

"Lightning assaults were the tactic of choice for both armies, which dropped whole brigades on individual targets to overwhelm and quickly eliminate them."
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #20 on: 17 June 2018, 08:27:58 »
P.118-119 Print edition

The map on page 119 does not match the descriptions on P. 118. 

Lyons is said to captured by the LC in 2785 but the map (showing annexations from 2783-2786) does not show it as part of the LC.
New Canton was captured by the CC in 2784 but is not show as part of the CC. 
Yangtze is said to be a jointly held world- it is shown as being a part of the TH before 2783- almost all other jointly held worlds are shown to be part of the Great Houses in 2783.
Callison is said to be a jointly held world it is shown as being a part of the TH before 2783- almost all other jointly held worlds are shown to be part of the Great Houses in 2783.

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #21 on: 03 May 2021, 23:36:56 »
PDF, pg. 19:

"History likens Antilos Legos to the most depraved barbarians of the past, citing him as a new Adolf Hitler or Genghis Khan and as a testament to the warlike people of the Rim Worlds Republic. In truth, Legos was born on Abbey in the Free Worlds League, and rather than the crazed psychopath histories often portray him as, was clinically cold and rational." [emphasis mine]

THE PROBLEM: There is no such world. The author was likely thinking of the Abbey District, consisting of the worlds Maxwell, Silver and Hammer.

THE FIX: Change "born on Abbey" to "born on [one of the three Abbey District worlds]"


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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #22 on: 02 November 2021, 21:27:04 »
Issue: Conflicting dates of Amaris' death. Most recent first:
Visions of Rebirth, Interlude Three, 25 November 2780
Liberation of Terra Vol. 2, pp. 108-109 & 124, 25 November 2779
Liberation of Terra Vol. 1, p. 60, 29 October 2779

Correction: Change the two incorrect versions.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #23 on: 08 May 2022, 10:38:39 »
PDF, 1st printing
Several inconsistencies involving Iceland. pp. 88, 89, 96, 100

- "Fifteenth Army, secured Ireland and Iceland during July [2777]"; p. 88 "Consolidation (July 2777-June 2778)"
- "Plans to assault North America though the Icelandic and Bering Strait tunnels proved impractical—Amaris had sealed them all"; p. 89, "Preparations (July 2778-January 2779)"
- "In Europe, Seventeenth Army Group would target Iceland and then make the jump to Greenland—each of which possessed only minimal garrisons"; p. 96 "North American Landings (January 2779-June 2779)"
- "2779 saw...Fifteenth Army [strike the] all-but-undefended Iceland and Greenland in February"; p. 100, "New Landings"

Correction: The least invasive way to correct this is to go with the July 2777 landing on p. 88, as that allows the SLDF to realize the  Icelandic tunnel to North America was sealed on p. 89. Replace the selection on p. 96 with "In Europe, Fifteenth Army would jump from Iceland to Greenland—which possessed only a minimal garrison" or ""In Europe, Seventeenth Army Group would jump from Iceland to Greenland—which possessed only a minimal garrison." 17th Army Group is composed of 10th and 15th Army (p. 96 insert) but two Armies are unlikely to be sent against a minimally defended Greenland. However 10th Army was likely there eventually, using Greenland to jump off into New York. Remove the reference to Iceland on p 100.  15th Army is already established making the the Iceland-Greenland-Nova Scotia island hops into Canada (p. 96 insert, p. 97 map) so no further corrections need to be made.
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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #24 on: 02 June 2023, 22:04:33 »
* VERSION: PDF edition (don't know which version)
* LOCATION: Page 44, "Lockdale"

* THE ERROR: "The battle was joined three days later on 16 October, with the Fourth Fleets..."

Three paragraphs earlier it says the fleet entered Lockdale on 11 September and they were 2 days away from the planet, making "three days later" be 16 September. The first full paragraph on the following page talks about the army landing troops on 25 September, so this seems to fit better.

* THE CORRECTION: Change 16 October to 16 September.

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #25 on: 04 June 2023, 03:43:41 »
* VERSION: PDF edition (don't know which version)
* LOCATION: Page 57, "Kicking Down the Gates" (2nd paragraph)

* THE ERROR: "Planning for the assault fell to Admiral Janos Grec, who had succeeded Joan Brandt as head of the Naval Command in 2772."

As per Janos Crec's profile on page 16, he succeeded Ignacio Blake in 2772. Blake had succeeded Joan Brandt in 2664 (Field Manual: SLDF, p. 17 and Historical: Liberation of Terra I, p. 60).

* THE CORRECTION: Change Joan Brandt to Ignacio Blake.

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Re: Historical: Liberation of Terra, Vol II
« Reply #26 on: 09 June 2023, 07:46:45 »
* VERSION: PDF edition (don't know which version)
* LOCATION: Page 68, "Homecoming (January-June 2777)" (1st big paragraph)

* THE ERROR: "The troops assigned to each, one or two armies, would be responsible for seizing and holding a broad swathe of territory, ranging from 30 km2 to for Seventh Army at Singapore (though the most compact single landing took place at Sandhurst, barely 3 km2) to 75,000 km2 for Nineteenth Army Group along the Mongolia-China border."

Looks like a simple typo.

* THE CORRECTION: Delete "to"

 

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