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[SCC]

I'm in the know; I was pointing out that there is very, very little evidence for a timeskip outside of what Herb said 5+ years ago.  Herb is not the line developer, even if he was at the time.  A lot can change in five years.

Which is a long winded way of saying we have no idea what's coming and that such assumptions aren't well supported unless your name is Brent or Ray.  Normally I'd leave speculation of that nature alone, but the way it was introduced was really loaded in a way that doesn't play well with the... excitable nature of this thread in particular and this forum in general.

I distinctly remember a big planning session that Herb posted teasing photo's from at some point, plotting out the story beyond ilClan, presumably all the planning is still somewhat valid, and these two snippets from the latest sourcebooks wouldn't line up with an ilClan existing if one doesn't come into existence.

[Two Guns Blazing]

I'm quite happy playing within the confines of 3025 - 3052-ish and don't go North or South of that, just not interested (although I can understand why others may be)...the setting is so frikken huge that you can perpetually play in that time period...

[Maingunnery]

Beg to differ.
There was also hints at a rules overhaul - completely new set of weapons to boot, with all existing stuff relegated to "obsolete".

Some (most?) players voiced concerns about gameplay after a suggested radical revamping of equipment options. (There was talk about reducing the options to more generic weapon systems and making all existing equipment "obsolete" in that it hardly scratched the new super-armor, or something like that.)

Others were unhappy about a time jump, i.e. a proposed gap in the timeline that would then have to be backfilled. That had worked so-so for the 20 Year Update and many were apparently unhappy with the Jihad/Dark Age time gap (and/or how it was backfilled).

According to my vague memory, a handful may even have complained about the very concept of an ilClan existing, or any major change to the starmap.

So while there was a lot of typical internet angst bandied about (which CGL felt amounted to a negative feedback), different people had different opinions on different things. My personal impression back then was that my own "sit and wait, and judge it when I see it" attitude was actually the most widespread among the fanbase, albeit not the most vocal.

Indeed, and speaking of myself, I was part of the group that were positive to the proposed TimeJump with equipment/tech reset.
Such a missed opportunity....    :(  :'(

[SCC]

Indeed, and speaking of myself, I was part of the group that were positive to the proposed TimeJump with equipment/tech reset.
Such a missed opportunity....    :(  :'(

Yep, people complain about having to carry lots of books or about rules complexity, well this would have fixed things.

[Wrangler]

I'd like to wipe dust off my saddles and move on to the next adventure.
In the end, the other time periods are still there for people to play. Not everyone understands (in my opinion) that nothing changes for them. They can play where you want, have fun whenever you want. 

Time jump expanding the universe, not ending it. 

Hopefully next core book (whatever it's called) will be full of good stuff to play with.  I rather not get into situation where were stuck-in same year for decade sort situation.

If there was bigger staff for CGL, maybe we'd see more stuff sooner. There not alot of them, so we have to be patient. 
Right now they're doing 2 things, Promote the game and get new players on and keep universe alive. 

[Cubby]

I distinctly remember a big planning session that Herb posted teasing photo's from at some point, plotting out the story beyond ilClan, presumably all the planning is still somewhat valid, and these two snippets from the latest sourcebooks wouldn't line up with an ilClan existing if one doesn't come into existence.

Nothing in that photo is valid anymore because the person who posted it is no longer guiding the BT product line or story.

The 3250 glimpses in prefaces are just small Easter eggs, teasers, nothing more. Not indicative of any larger plans.

To be very clear: a time jump has NOT been announced, confirmed or hinted at since Herb’s half-decade old statements which are no longer valid. Actual plans will likely be totally different, but I’m not at liberty to discuss any such plans further.

I do NOT want to re-legislate 3250 here and now. It’s not an active thing.

[I am Belch II]

So the time jump to 3250 is still on?? I thought that was quietly shelved??

[Maingunnery]

So the time jump to 3250 is still on?? I thought that was quietly shelved??

It’s not an active thing.

[I am Belch II]

Thanks

[SteelRaven]

I really wish people would stop making that a thing.

[rebs]

Its more than enough to get the next 5 year jump after ten years...

[Empyrus]

Seems to me that 3250 stuff is "this is a little hint of where we are going" but otherwise things are "you'll see the journey there".
Sorta meta-framing story, if that makes sense?

[jimdigris]

TPTB cannot do a time-jump anymore; the SLS Manassas was finally destroyed during the Jihad. ;)

[Bosefius]

 C:-) Drop the Time Jump conversation. C:-)

[Brigoon]

So what does everyone think of the Argo making into the game ?

[Wrangler]

I'm happy and curious about Argo.

There another thread to discuss the details of PDF books (and PoD) content.

[Colt Ward]

Nice to see the ToC, stoked for that new Atlas II and the APCs.

[Liam's Ghost]

So what does everyone think of the Argo making into the game ?

Can't say without seeing what it looks like.

[Sartris]

new Atlas II

schrodinger's extinction: extinct until observed as not extinct

[Daryk]

I'm with Liam... really want to see how they did it...

[Brigoon]

I'm happy and curious about Argo.

There another thread to discuss the details of PDF books (and PoD) content.

I know about the other thread this was more like a hand grenade toss to get the conversation steered away from the territory of the angry Battlemasters.

[Gaiiten]

So due the actual End of the Dark Age storyline, when can we buy ilClan sourcebook?
Has been a while, since we have gotten new stuff for story continuation.  :(

[Elmoth]

Still waiting for my boxed sets :(

[klarg1]

schrodinger's extinction: extinct until observed as not extinct

By the standards of the MUL, I think it still counts as extinct, even if the Aranos successfully dig one out of an old SL cache.

I'm excited for all the units listed for the book. The APCs may have the most practical impact on my games, but they all have potential.

[Colt Ward]

So due the actual End of the Dark Age storyline, when can we buy ilClan sourcebook?
Has been a while, since we have gotten new stuff for story continuation.  :(

You know . . . the book that came out last GenCon moved things forward?  Since it had not for years before that, complaining about timeline movement is a bit disingenuous.

[Scotty]

Last I checked Catalyst is still in the business of making money.  When there's news about a new product, you'll hear about it.

[Gaiiten]

You know . . . the book that came out last GenCon moved things forward?  Since it had not for years before that, complaining about timeline movement is a bit disingenuous.

Well, you know ... this was almost a year ago and IMHO that the timeline did not move for some years is nothing what fans and customers shhould so simply accept.

[Sartris]

They said when SF dropped that ilclan was going to be at least a year. You can be disappointed but no one should be surprised we haven’t seen it or wonder where it is.

[Fat Guy]

Hoping it will be a Gen Con release.

[Adrian Gideon]

That’s looking very unlikely, and until now that hasn’t been stated or hinted at.
Just want expectations to be clear.