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BattleTech Miniatures and Terrain => Iron Wind Metals News and Announcements => Topic started by: Adrian Gideon on 28 April 2014, 16:39:23
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Hatamoto Suna and Black Knight
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Orochi and the Ares.
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Wow! Thank you so much, this is really great O0
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if the Black Knight actually turns out looking like that it will be glorious. it's funny, i never liked the redesign until i saw David White's TRO:3145 version.
looks badass, guys.
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yay! my wife will get her Nuptup! (Ares painted like the Pokemon Vileplume.) it will go well with her Ponies and Decepticons... the Orochi and Hatamoti Sana will go well with my 3145DCMS Project.
do we have a Dragon II concept yet?
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Do we have a Dragon II concept yet?
It's actually so close to release, I sent an email out checking to see if we'll see either a painted mini from CSO or an IWM production pic in the next week. If not, then I'll go ahead and post the final sculpt pics. ;)
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That Hatamoto made me crap my pants. The FedSuns will lose the current war because of inferior awesomeness.
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It's actually so close to release, I sent an email out checking to see if we'll see either a painted mini from CSO or an IWM production pic in the next week. If not, then I'll go ahead and post the final sculpt pics. ;)
awesome... My DCMS collection is being tweaked to 3145 era... and I am going to need a LOT of Dragon IIs (like one for every 2 Dragons...)
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Will the Arrow IV on the back of the Dragon II be a separate piece? I'm sure there are DC fans out there that would love to mod it into a dragon or grand dragon, but a big lump of pewter like that can be a challenge to file off.
if the Black Knight actually turns out looking like that it will be glorious. it's funny, i never liked the redesign until i saw David White's TRO:3145 version.
looks badass, guys.
It's the head. The clix version had an awful head. You could see the inspiration from MW4 in the body, but the head looked like it had been sucking on lemons or something.
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Those are certainly beautiful prototypes. Ares is going to be a monster for sure.
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the black knight is great but no hands?
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Look ma, no hands! :D
(http://cfw.sarna.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/TRO3145_FedSuns.jpg)
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the black knight is great but no hands?
Why would it have hands? It certainly doesn't have hands in the art or record sheets.
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he's thinking this: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/358/black-knight-bl-6-knt
But the preview mini is of this: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6351/black-knight-blk-nt-5h
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the black knight is great but no hands?
The Black Knight is modeled after MWDA version which was basically variation of the Mechwarrior 4 version which was No-hands and all lasers tube version.
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Looking great.
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he's thinking this: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/358/black-knight-bl-6-knt
But the preview mini is of this: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6351/black-knight-blk-nt-5h
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Yep
And when the pic loaded the first thing I made out was the left arm,
and my first thought was a new Flashman?
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Simply amazing work.
I dont know whose idea it was to start these painting previews and now the model previews but they deserve all the high fives!
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The Hatamoto Suna has some nice elements, but the pose is awfully stiff. Hopefully that's not the image to be used for final sculpt. The Black Knight though just oozes awesome! I'll have to have one of those, even if I don't have a unit to put it in. O0
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The Hatamoto Suna has some nice elements, but the pose is awfully stiff.
The proposed part count should allow for some flexibility when building the Mech.
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The Hatamoto Suna has some nice elements, but the pose is awfully stiff. Hopefully that's not the image to be used for final sculpt. The Black Knight though just oozes awesome! I'll have to have one of those, even if I don't have a unit to put it in. O0
Me too, I will have to make a unit up to put it in.
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Here's hoping the CamoSpecs take on that Ares will have the same scheme used on the covers of FM:3145 and TRO:3145.
(http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/images/CAT35252-Field-Manual-3145-Cover.jpg)
(http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/images/CAT35133-TRO-3145-Cover.jpg)
Also, I like how each of the legs has its own hex base, with a fourth hex in between to hold it all together.
By the way, will there be separate listings for each of the Ares configurations, or will the alternate weapon options be put into the same pack?
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If they keep coming out with minis that look this cool you may just drag me in to 3145. ;D
Or to be more accurate I may have to make up some 3145 units, so will have to do some reading and find out what units are still around that I want to build.
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That Hatamoto made me crap my pants.
this. For all of them.
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Here's hoping the CamoSpecs take on that Ares will have the same scheme used on the covers of FM:3145 and TRO:3145.
(http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/images/CAT35252-Field-Manual-3145-Cover.jpg)
(http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/images/CAT35133-TRO-3145-Cover.jpg)
Also, I like how each of the legs has its own hex base, with a fourth hex in between to hold it all together.
By the way, will there be separate listings for each of the Ares configurations, or will the alternate weapon options be put into the same pack?
I will be painting one that I secure (in the Hastati's colors) like the cover :)
I have to secure one first of course, but after doing the Doloire in that scheme I really enjoyed it and will start a small Republic unit for the Ares and republic friends
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And for every Hastati 'mech you beat me to, I will hate you. :D
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mmmmmmmmm Ares......
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This is awesome O0 so cool to see some previews of what will be emptying my bank account!
Also I've been out of the loop for some time now but are the 3d renderings the beginnings of mechs to be printed similar to how the LAM's were done, Or just a reference for the sculptors?(I assume the first?) Does this mean were seeing the end of hand sculpted mechs and other goodness? :(...and something I've always wondered what are the master sculpts(greens?!?) made out of, it's not just green stuff/apoxie/any other form of epoxy sculpting putty is it? :-\
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It's the head. The clix version had an awful head. You could see the inspiration from MW4 in the body, but the head looked like it had been sucking on lemons or something.
You can salvage the DA version by slicing off that Ghu-awful dog-muzzle. I redid the arms to match David White's art too.
(http://www.solaris7.com/files/members/602/DA_Black_Knight.jpg)
But when the new mini arrives, I shall buy several - I have never bought the original bandy-legged Python escapee mini, and I shall retro-fit some to serve as 4th War era models.
W.
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Blarg! I don't need no stinkin' Ares! I need my Trebarunas! Where are my Trebbies?!?!
They do look good. I'd buy them if I had money. :(
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The models look fantastic. The Black Knight is on the top of my "To Buy" List. I can't wait to see an update to the Upcoming Releases List. Crossing my fingers for the Tiburon and the Wendigo. I've got a Sea Fox unit to build.
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OOOOOO
More TRO 3085 stuff.
I hope there is a Goshawk II and Arctic Wolf II on the way.
:D
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These previews are so beautiful. :)
Looking forward to them.
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Just need the Tenshi now... These look awesome.
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If the mini looks like the preview I am in for 5 of the Black Knights. Just so awesome!
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The Ares and the Hatamoto! Oh my!
Seriously, the Dragon does have such wonderful looking toys.
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Wow! Beautiful all around. Can't wait for the Black Knight. The others will test my willpower on penny-pinching. I don't have any Republic forces, but an Ares looking half as good as that render would be tough to ignore.
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(http://cfw.sarna.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/TRO3145_FedSuns.jpg)
These are obviously FedSuns 'mechs, but what unit would they be from? I like the color scheme but I can't seem to match it up to anything on the CSO website.
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These are obviously FedSuns 'mechs, but what unit would they be from? I like the color scheme but I can't seem to match it up to anything on the CSO website.
I believe that it is the new/old Davion Guards paraide colors.
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I believe that it is the new/old Davion Guards paraide colors.
Thanks! O0
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I believe that it is the new/old Davion Guards paraide colors.
Correct!
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indeed, i am glad to see them moving back towards this far more attractive version of the scheme. IIRC they also have the Guards in these colors on the cover of the new AlphaStrike book.
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Look ma, no hands! :D
(http://cfw.sarna.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/TRO3145_FedSuns.jpg)
Is it just me, or does that Black Knight bear a curious resemblance to Cobra Commander?
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In old school Davion Guard colors, I can see it at that angle. I'm not so hip on the handless Black Knight, i guess MW4 redesigns that WizKids implimented are unforunately canon.
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indeed, i am glad to see them moving back towards this far more attractive version of the scheme.
Indeed, I like them so much myself that I just ordered the new Atlas and Black Knight minis to try my hand at duplicating that paint scheme. ;D
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Indeed, I like them so much myself that I just ordered the new Atlas and Black Knight minis to try my hand at duplicating that paint scheme. ;D
Is the Black Knight available on the IWM web store? I did not see it.
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Whats the mech in the lower left hand corner behind the Ares on the XTRO RotS? Can't seem to place it....
-Gunz
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The Black Knight isn't slated for release until the end of the month. It will be another 30 days before it is on IWM's site to give LGS a chance to sell the initial ones.
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Maybe I am the only one complaining, but the Ares is waaay to big. Even if it is a superheavy mech. ******, this monstrosity has the footprint of a dropship! If that's the case, it should have about the same size as the clicktech monstrosity.
Is this taking scale creep into new dimensions?!?
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Whats the mech in the lower left hand corner behind the Ares on the XTRO RotS? Can't seem to place it....
-Gunz
Gunz, if you mean TRO 3145 RotS...that's a Prefect. The XTRO RotS has not been released yet.
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Erp...sorry. Meant TRO 3145. :P Kind of looks like a Nightstalker but I can't be sure...
(http://d15yciz5bluc83.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/CAT35133-TRO-3145-Cover.jpg?28cf69)
-Gunz
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Maybe I am the only one complaining, but the Ares is waaay to big.
You are not the only one. All I can say is that scale is a topic of heavy discussion behind the curtain. Have faith, all will work out in the end ;)
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Yes Gunz...that's the Night Stalker.
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The Black Knight isn't slated for release until the end of the month. It will be another 30 days before it is on IWM's site to give LGS a chance to sell the initial ones.
Pardon my ignorance, who or what is LGS?
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LGS = Local Gaming Store and is often preceded by 'F' for Friendly
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LGS = Local Gaming Store and is often preceded by 'F' for Friendly
Thanks!
Unfortunately, (as far as I know) no one stocks B-tech stuff in France....
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LGS = Local Gaming Store and is often preceded by 'F' for Friendly
Kinda like your FNSM (Friendly Neighborhood SpiderMan).....just with less Tobey McGuirre and akward dancing...thank the gods! ;D
-Gunz
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You haven't spent much time at my local store, it seems... :)
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Erp...sorry. Meant TRO 3145. :P Kind of looks like a Nightstalker but I can't be sure...
-Gunz
Center: Ares (Hera configuration) punching Warwolf
Foreground: Simian BA
Background (Left): Night Stalker
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The Black Knight isn't slated for release until the end of the month. It will be another 30 days before it is on IWM's site to give LGS a chance to sell the initial ones.
D'oh! You're right. I did offer several other new mechs already along with the Atlas and I forgot exactly what I ordered. Oh, well, I will order the Blank Knightas soon as it's actually available. ;D
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I didn't see this when I posted my 3145 question. Really hoping for the Suna but man that new black knight looks so much sexier than the earlier version too.
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Do we have any more pre-release pictures of the Black Knight?
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The more I look at it the more I think the new Black Knight needs to be the posterboy for battletech.... It just feels like it embodies everything that Battletech needs to be.
-Gunz
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I'm wondering just how big the Ares will be. I own the 4 clix mechs and they're huge as it is. Also, will the variant parts be included ??
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The Ares isn't as big as it was in those pics anymore, its now more in line with the other superheavy mech mini's (not sure if I'm allowed to say the exact size) but lets just say it still wont fit on a standard base because of the size and position of the legs. As for variant pieces, stay tuned.
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Umm, Ok, Will they be close to the clix ?? If so, I might just try un-basing the clix and using them for a 3145-ish era campaign. Hopefully they'll include the variants' parts too.
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The Ares were big even by clix saize standards. I would doubt they are going to be close to the metal versions unless they are intended to bigger than mapscale dropships.
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Don't worry it wont be anywhere near the size of the click mini. we actually made sure it fits with the rest of the mini line. its roughly the size of the omega. (in height)
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The Ares were big even by clix saize standards. I would doubt they are going to be close to the metal versions unless they are intended to bigger than mapscale dropships.
For the tonnage, I would hope they are not taller than an Atlas. There is too much mass arranged horizontally, and in the third leg, to allow for much height. If you add a third leg to a 100-tonner like an Atlas or King Crab you would get damn near 135 tons.
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That ship sailed though. They've already been depicted as tall, and by game rules Superheavies are a whole level taller. What Sentinel's done is to shrink the model down as far as possible while paying some 'lip service' to both previous rules and art.
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Hatamoto Suna and Black Knight
I'm probably a bit late to the party, but by ghu I want to throw my wallet at the Hatamoto picture.
So meaty and Kuritan! O0
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For the tonnage, I would hope they are not taller than an Atlas. There is too much mass arranged horizontally, and in the third leg, to allow for much height. If you add a third leg to a 100-tonner like an Atlas or King Crab you would get damn near 135 tons.
Really? Pause at 15 seconds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipiwSVv42Wk) for an idea of how it should measure up to an Atlas.
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Really? Pause at 15 seconds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipiwSVv42Wk) for an idea of how it should measure up to an Atlas.
Actually doesn't look taller to me from that perspective. Camera angle is low and Atlas is farther away than the Ares. Plus, the additional bulk of that Atlas III tells me it should be shorter than the original Atlas.
I'm not going to argue the point, I'm just not a fan of the "it has to be HUGE" philosophy. Square-cube law is where it's at for me, not 28mm heroic. ;)
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Square-cube law is where it's at for me, not 28mm heroic. ;)
Too bad that's not more pervasive with the sculptors.
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If Sentinel373 is handling the Ares (and hopefully the Poseidon will come of it too)...I've got a LOT of faith!!!
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Yep. With a little publicity, I think the Ares will sell like hotcakes.
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Yep. With a little publicity, I think the Ares will sell like hotcakes.
Based on the artwork, I think the D/A Black Knight will sell like hotcakes. That is, whenever they release it. :P
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Based on the artwork, I think the D/A Black Knight will sell like hotcakes. That is, whenever they release it. :P
I've got to agree here. While I've every intention of purchasing some tripods the Black Knight looks like it will be a great looking mini.
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That ship sailed though. They've already been depicted as tall, and by game rules Superheavies are a whole level taller. What Sentinel's done is to shrink the model down as far as possible while paying some 'lip service' to both previous rules and art.
I agree that the ship has sailed, but more because the Omega is the size it is, rather than because of the game rules compared to the Atlas. (And the Omega is beautiful, so I will be happy if they roughly match.)
Based purely on the game rules, the Atlas and the scorpion are both the same height. The minis (rightly) disagree.
Personally, I think I'd make it 1-3mm shorter than the Omega, but that is so fine a gradation as to be nit-picking.
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I've got to agree here. While I've every intention of purchasing some tripods the Black Knight looks like it will be a great looking mini.
I'm confident we'll see many new Black Knights proxying in older-era games instead of the ridiculous bandy-legged suit of armour from a Scooby Doo movie we have as the current mini.
(And no, not a fan of the current Black Knight minis. Why do you ask?)
W ^-^
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Don't worry work troll you are not the only who thinks that ;) .
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If Sentinel373 is handling the Ares (and hopefully the Poseidon will come of it too)...I've got a LOT of faith!!!
Yep. With a little publicity, I think the Ares will sell like hotcakes.
Aw you guys :)
we'll I had a lot of fun making it so I hope you guys will like the final version.
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https://www.ironwindmetals.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=2&pid=1007#top_display_media (https://www.ironwindmetals.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=2&pid=1007#top_display_media)
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Sweet, lovely mini....
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Impressive!
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Aw you guys :)
we'll I had a lot of fun making it so I hope you guys will like the final version.
Sentinel, are you actually "sculpting" the Ares...or will that be handed off to someone else once your 3D Artwork is done?
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Sentinel, are you actually "sculpting" the Ares...or will that be handed off to someone else once your 3D Artwork is done?
I modeled the Ares based on the artwork from the TRO the click mini and a few other sources, from that 3d model a master will be 3d printed and from that master a mold will be made.
So for all intents and purposes I have "sculpted" it. Even though my hands have never physically touched the master.
P.S. in case it wasn't clear the 3d model in the pictures was far from finished, its much more awesome now :)
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...its much more awesome now :)
Yes, yes it is... 8)
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Ah ok, well, I'll call it "you sculpted it"! LOL
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I love them and I'm really happy that you're using 3d printers for some of your new mechs.
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Here's hoping the CamoSpecs take on that Ares will have the same scheme used on the covers of FM:3145 and TRO:3145.
(http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/images/CAT35252-Field-Manual-3145-Cover.jpg)
The mech on the cover of FM 3145 can't remember the name but I hope that too gets a sculpt.
The Ares looks good can't wait to see how that does come out
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The mech on the cover of FM 3145 can't remember the name but I hope that too gets a sculpt.
Its the Malice, one its variant is a zombie!
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I know I'm late to the game . . . but after seeing these pictures I'm now waiting on a Black Knight purchase until that new sculpt comes out. It is gorgeous!
EDIT: I see the new King Crab is on the development list, too . . . any chance that'll be bumped up? It's also on my list of mechs to get. Just saying . . .
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Anything on the Release Schedule thread is more likely to get pushed back than bumped up. Patience is a virtue.
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Anything on the Release Schedule thread is more likely to get pushed back than bumped up. Patience is a virtue.
I know, but a guy can dream. Besides, I'd rather see them take their time and make these mechs look amazing than try to rush things. My wallet can certainly stand to wait.
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The Black Knight is out already. I just finished painting one last night.
-Gunz
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The Black Knight is out already. I just finished painting one last night.
-Gunz
How awesome is it to paint?
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How awesome is it to paint?
And why haven't you posted it yet???? 8)
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And why haven't you posted it yet???? 8)
We usually don't release diorama pieces till right before the Con? :)
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We usually don't release diorama pieces till right before the Con? :)
Is it bad that seeing pictures of the Camo Specs diorama is what I look forward to the most as news filters back from GenCon every year? :D
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Is it bad that seeing pictures of the Camo Specs diorama is what I look forward to the most as news filters back from GenCon every year? :D
I'm the same way. Every year I eagerly await pictures of the diorama and tidbits of news. I still remember when the Clan Stone Lion scheme was spotted at the WoR diorama...
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We usually don't release diorama pieces till right before the Con? :)
Yes. This. :)
How awesome is it to paint?
Very. 8) One of the more enjoyable ones I have worked on in the last few months. Working on a Pack Hunter II right now and this one is just plain fun in an absurd looking killing machine kind of way. ;D
-Gunz
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pose it doing a handstand!
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I'm not sure if I'm going blind, but why can't I find the following 'mechs in the IWM store?
20-5095 Dark Age Hitotsune Kozo
20-5096 Dark Age Dragon II
20-5098 D.A. Black Knight
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I'm not sure if I'm going blind, but why can't I find the following 'mechs in the IWM store?
20-5095 Dark Age Hitotsune Kozo
20-5096 Dark Age Dragon II
20-5098 D.A. Black Knight
New miniatures are generally released to distribution (local game store, other web stores, etc) first to encourage store sales.
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It is usually about a one month delay for the webstore for the reason stated above. That has been IWM's procedure for many years now.
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They will be up by this weekend.
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Cheers guys, and thank you Speck.
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I'm not sure if I'm going blind, but why can't I find the following 'mechs in the IWM store?
20-5095 Dark Age Hitotsune Kozo
20-5096 Dark Age Dragon II
20-5098 D.A. Black Knight
My friend saw the Dragon 11 and forgot to buy it for me at the store he went to very sad :P
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My friend saw the Dragon 11 and forgot to buy it for me at the store he went to very sad :P
You know where you can buy it TS!!! <subtle hint> lol
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And news what is going to be at Gencon?
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And news what is going to be at Gencon?
All I know of right now is the Agrotera
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And news what is going to be at Gencon?
Have you seen this thread?
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,40544.0.html
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What Sentinel's done is to shrink the model down as far as possible while paying some 'lip service' to both previous rules and art.
Looks like he (and everyone else involved) did a great job of it.
Group picture of Assembled Ares Zeus with Omega and Atlas
(http://www.ironwindmetals.com/d/files/ares_group_preview.jpg)
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They will be up by this weekend.
1. i took this to be referring to the Dragon II, Black Knight and Hitotsune Kozo, is this correct?
2. if that is correct, is it just me, or are they actually not up? (like maybe i have to clear my cache or something?)
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It's not just you, they are still not up.
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Not on IWM's site yet!
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They will be up, I got busy with Gen Con prep that I have not gotten to post them for sale yet. Just set a reminder to do so tomorrow after work.
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good to know, thanks Speck! :)
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Remember, folks - GenCon ShutDown Syndrome. Nothing happens in the greater gaming industry this week.
Followed by Post-GenCon Syndrome - nothing gets done for the following week as people recover from Con-itus, or the next month while they try and catch up on everything that got delayed by GCSDS or PGCS.
W ;)
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We wait for new stuff. Many of the items will be worth the wait.
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May releases posted to IWM webstore.
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I have seen the new black knight and I want to get. That mech is sexy
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I painted one for the gencon diorama this year and yes, it is dead sexy. I am certainly going to do another one shortly.
-Gunz
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I was going to do one for the diorama, but Gun's beat me to it and honestly I just don't have time to do what I wanted to do. Going to still follow through with my idea though!
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My friend saw the Dragon 11 and forgot to buy it for me at the store he went to very sad :P
I didn't forget to buy it just didn't have enough money. It was either the New Atlas 3, New Blackknight or the Gry Falcon, and they were just so cool that I couldn't bring myself to put any of them back to get your Dragon :P