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Title: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 January 2011, 19:57:48
Ladies and gentlemen, we are BACK!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 25 January 2011, 19:59:03
Roll Call!

B-man here of course.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 25 January 2011, 20:11:07
Hello... Hello... Hello...

It's good to be back.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 25 January 2011, 20:17:10
And very glad we all are that it is back!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Wombat on 25 January 2011, 20:29:17
[Wombat, along with the portrait of Hanse Davion above the mantle, both raise their colllective paws and hands.]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 25 January 2011, 20:41:44
Hi everybody. It's good to be back. Like the new avatar?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 25 January 2011, 20:43:17
Is it meant to strike fear into the hearts of our enemies? Because clowns are terrifying.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Wombat on 25 January 2011, 20:53:20
Hi everybody. It's good to be back. Like the new avatar?

Kinda reminds me of a costume I wore one Halloween to work a few years ago.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 January 2011, 20:54:09
Hi everybody. It's good to be back. Like the new avatar?

There's nothing quite like the combination of stark Lovecraftian horror and subtle eroticism of a young lady clown.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 25 January 2011, 20:57:31
So this is a nice surprise.  It is going to take me forever to generate any significant number of posts.

S/F

Matt

PS - I'm going to spend way too much time retyping verification letters.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 25 January 2011, 20:58:28
Hi everybody. It's good to be back. Like the new avatar?
...so confused, hate clowns, but yet...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Wombat on 25 January 2011, 21:00:46
There's nothing quite like the combination of stark Lovecraftian horror and subtle eroticism of a young lady clown.

I get the Lovecraftian horror bit, but honestly, there's nothing close to eroticism when it comes to clowns. Creepy! I mean, come on, where's the joy in "honk-honk-honk" of a rubber nose beating against your...well you get the idea.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 25 January 2011, 21:04:28
Hi everybody. It's good to be back. Like the new avatar?

There's nothing quite like the combination of stark Lovecraftian horror and subtle eroticism of a young lady clown.

I'm going to have to start working the phrase "young lady clown" in to my everyday conversation.

PS - I'm going to spend way too much time retyping verification letters.

I just wish they were lower case instead of upper.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 25 January 2011, 21:08:33
Only the first 10 posts thank goodness.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 25 January 2011, 21:12:06
All's well 'round these parts.  Well, okay not all, but you people have no need and probably less desire to hear of my travails, none of which are that big of a deal anyway. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 25 January 2011, 21:13:19
I just wish they were lower case instead of upper.
It is the angle and silly stripes that is bugging me.  I did discover one good outcome of this forum hack:  I've been 'unsubscribed', for lack of a better term, from some really insidious threads.  Yahtzee!

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 January 2011, 21:15:54
All's well 'round these parts.  Well, okay not all, but you people have no need and probably less desire to hear of my travails, none of which are that big of a deal anyway.

Those sentiments are totally antithetical to the very purpose of the internet.

Who else is going to GenCon?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Wolf Reaper on 25 January 2011, 21:19:28
I was aiming to, either Gen or Origins. 

As per clowns, creepy? yes.
Dangerous? most definately.
But add in a cute female and all is forgiven.



...OK, most things are forgiven.
I will never forgive telatubies.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Joskney on 25 January 2011, 21:32:05
Joskney is accounted for, oddly enought
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 25 January 2011, 21:36:00
I'd love to make either Origins or GenCon, but I'll either still be in the post-college unemployment phase, or recently employed and without the time to take off.  I'll have to set my sights on next year, at the earliest.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 January 2011, 21:36:46
Joskney is accounted for, oddly enought

JOSKNEY! Coming to GenCon, I hope?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 25 January 2011, 21:40:18
Begins prepping the Lyran Embassy for Vash's inevitable return...

"Do you think this is enough bling, or should I just gold plate the whole damned thing?"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 25 January 2011, 21:41:34
3CL,

Given the fate of your namesake unit did you consider changing your login name?  Just curious.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 25 January 2011, 21:43:01
3CL,

Given the fate of your namesake unit did you consider changing your login name?  Just curious.

S/F

Matt
How would we know it's him? I mean there's practically nothing else that would give him away...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Joskney on 25 January 2011, 21:46:34
I have the time off for GenCon but at this point I still have two houses I am paying mortgage on.  It will have to be played out as the time comes.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 25 January 2011, 21:49:57
I wish I could go to GenCon, but I might not make it to ComicCon... and I have free room and entrance. :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 25 January 2011, 22:09:18
3CL,

Given the fate of your namesake unit did you consider changing your login name?  Just curious.

S/F

Matt
How would we know it's him? I mean there's practically nothing else that would give him away...
The avatar would be plenty.  For gratuitous certainty, he could add "The poster formerly known as 3CL" under the avatar or something.  But I'm happy to see him stick with the old.  Don't fix it if it ain't broke, as they say.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 25 January 2011, 22:40:19
I might be at GenCon, but it's too early for me to say.  Ask again in a few months.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 25 January 2011, 22:52:04
Howdy folks!

*dusts off spurs and attaches them to boot.

I think it's time I took the reigns of some Ceti Hussars once again.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 25 January 2011, 23:00:42
Hey guys!

Nice having everyone back.

As for Ed, I don't think he'd change his name around here.  We recognize it a bit too much.

As for any sort of Con plans, 2011 is already out due to work requirements.  2012 looks a bit more do-able, if only because I get out of the Navy in the summer.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Wombat on 25 January 2011, 23:18:12
If I can secure vacation, I'm coming to GenCon this year.  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 25 January 2011, 23:21:35
Hey! We back!!!!  :D [wildandcrazy]

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Joskney on 25 January 2011, 23:24:07
Nice Gencon NPA Wombat!! 

Last year Gencon time I was in southern Louisianna at my wife's family reunion.... and it was about as normal as the Halls
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 25 January 2011, 23:31:53
Some things never change. I did, however, consider changing my username, but it's who I am in these parts.

I'm for GenCon, of course. I think a lot of the CSO guys from last year will be there again this year.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Wombat on 25 January 2011, 23:34:01
Our PTO schedule has changed this year, so I'm not 100% I'll have earned enough paid (key-word there folks) time off to make the trip and get my game on. In many ways, I imagine GenCon to be like that episode of Skins where the kids went to Russia. Fun times.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 January 2011, 23:55:31
3CL,

Given the fate of your namesake unit did you consider changing your login name?  Just curious.

S/F

Matt

I did, actually, but I've been using this name for so long. Might as well keep it as a reminder of "a certain splendid memory", as Churchill once said.

Howdy folks!

*dusts off spurs and attaches them to boot.

I think it's time I took the reigns of some Ceti Hussars once again.

I keep meaning to ask, your avatar is Alain Deleon from Le Samourai, right?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Force of Nature on 26 January 2011, 00:06:59
Sheesh, I was starting to go through the withdrawl shakes, but now all is fine again.

97jedi and 3CL with different names? Only in an alternate universe I say, that and it would not feel right if they did.

Good to be back.

Force
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 26 January 2011, 00:10:22
The Grand Duchy of Furillo once more Reestablishes it's embassy, and all is right for now.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 00:11:42
Sheesh, I was starting to go through the withdrawl shakes, but now all is fine again.

97jedi and 3CL with different names? Only in an alternate universe I say, that and it would not feel right if they did.

Good to be back.

Force

Will you be at GenCon, or does FoN Mark II preclude it this year?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 00:19:10
3CL,

Given the fate of your namesake unit did you consider changing your login name?  Just curious.

S/F

Matt

I did, actually, but I've been using this name for so long. Might as well keep it as a reminder of "a certain splendid memory", as Churchill once said.

Howdy folks!

*dusts off spurs and attaches them to boot.

I think it's time I took the reigns of some Ceti Hussars once again.

I keep meaning to ask, your avatar is Alain Deleon from Le Samourai, right?

It is indeed.  I watched it over the summer and really liked the film and the character especially.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 26 January 2011, 00:21:30
The Grand Duchy of Furillo once more Reestablishes it's embassy, and all is right for now.

I kinda of figured that was you, Vash. Though I guess you are now CSA.

Wait, I just looked at the Asgard thread. Wow, I didn't expect Liaofan to change his name.

Nope, it was Vash. CSA is Vash.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 26 January 2011, 00:22:35
Sheesh, I was starting to go through the withdrawl shakes, but now all is fine again.

97jedi and 3CL with different names? Only in an alternate universe I say, that and it would not feel right if they did.

Good to be back.

Force
The Grand Duchy of Furillo once more Reestablishes it's embassy, and all is right for now.
Speaking of alternate universes...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 26 January 2011, 00:22:54
I hope everyone sticks to their old user names.  It will get too confusing otherwise, then again I didn't know 90% of the users here before.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 00:25:14

It is indeed.  I watched it over the summer and really liked the film and the character especially.

Melville is a great director. Army of Shadows by him is one of my all-time favorite movies ever, and the best movie ever made about the French Resistance.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 00:28:51

It is indeed.  I watched it over the summer and really liked the film and the character especially.

Melville is a great director. Army of Shadows by him is one of my all-time favorite movies ever, and the best movie ever made about the French Resistance.

I'll have to add that one to my list then. 

God bless Netflix and it's opening up of a world of cinema from me.  I've seen a ton that I would never of have without it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Force of Nature on 26 January 2011, 00:29:41

Will you be at GenCon, or does FoN Mark II preclude it this year?

More like terrible II's and yeah, she is in the middle of them.

I am planning on going to GenCon, but will not be able to commit to it until later.

Force
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 00:32:04
God bless Netflix and it's opening up of a world of cinema from me.  I've seen a ton that I would never of have without it.

That is a great thing about Netflix. If you find you liked Army of Shadows, I'd also recommend Z, which is probably my favorite "good" movie of all time. Ah, I've never regretted the semesters I took film instead of a foreign language, except when travelling...or trying to find a new job...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 00:40:31
God bless Netflix and it's opening up of a world of cinema from me.  I've seen a ton that I would never of have without it.

That is a great thing about Netflix. If you find you liked Army of Shadows, I'd also recommend Z, which is probably my favorite "good" movie of all time. Ah, I've never regretted the semesters I took film instead of a foreign language, except when travelling...or trying to find a new job...

I have to take a foreign language, its a prerequisite the State of Tennessee puts on all Bachelor of Arts students, but I'd like to squeeze a film class in there if I have the time one of these upcoming semesters.

Lately I've been really interested in Soviet Era science fiction and fantasy, both in film and print.  Netflix has helped a lot in that department too.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 26 January 2011, 00:42:17
Checking something:  Since the Censortron doesn't catch "damn", it's not considered foul language here, right?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 00:42:42
I have to take a foreign language, its a prerequisite the State of Tennessee puts on all Bachelor of Arts students, but I'd like to squeeze a film class in there if I have the time one of these upcoming semesters.

Lately I've been really interested in Soviet Era science fiction and fantasy, both in film and print.  Netflix has helped a lot in that department too.

Mercifully Illinois didn't have that requirement when I was getting my BA at the turn of the century, or I'd never have made it.

Soviet stuff, eh? Like Stanislaw Lem, or Stalker/Roadside Picnic?

Checking something:  Since the Censortron doesn't catch "damn", it's not considered foul language here, right?

Shit man, I don't know.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 26 January 2011, 00:44:28
Ain't that a bitch though?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 26 January 2011, 00:45:26
Mostly I wanted to see if the Censortron did catch it.  It didn't, so I guess it's okay.  Though that makes me wonder how much it does catch.  I mean, short of the obvious one.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 00:47:40
Quote
Mercifully Illinois didn't have that requirement when I was getting my BA at the turn of the century, or I'd never have made it.

Soviet stuff, eh? Like Stanislaw Lem, or Stalker/Roadside Picnic?

Yeah I read and watched Solaris.

Also Fantastic/La Planète Sauvage which is a Fench/ Czechoslovakian animated film, and this really creepy Ukrainian version of Alice In Wonderland to name a couple.


Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 00:54:13
and this really creepy Ukrainian version of Alice In Wonderland to name a couple.

I've heard of that one, never managed to see it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 00:58:24
and this really creepy Ukrainian version of Alice In Wonderland to name a couple.

I've heard of that one, never managed to see it.

If you happen to have Netflix it streams there. (http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Alice/60000309)  It's full of some claymation that just makes my skin crawl haha.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: TeamNutmeg on 26 January 2011, 01:42:20
Checking in.  Probably be a while working through my 10 captchas.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Kojak on 26 January 2011, 01:52:45
Well, I'm back, with an old avatar to boot.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Deathrider6 on 26 January 2011, 03:39:22
*Falls through ceiling.* "Where is Foxbat? I have the Knockando and the cat." Walks over to the usual chair by the fire and lets Katherine (the cat) get comfy.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: God and Davion on 26 January 2011, 04:43:02
Glad to see you here again! It is good to have a AFFS High Command thread.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 26 January 2011, 04:55:39
GreenDragon present and accounted for.  Now to decipher the letters at the bottom of the screen.  Wish me luck.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 05:20:25
Well, better late than never I suppose but people only started talking about this place re-opening in the wee small hours for me on Facebook and I was asleep
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 26 January 2011, 06:22:15
Hello.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 07:14:08
Hello.


...Sheng?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Yuri Hikado on 26 January 2011, 07:24:27
I'm here. Who broke the old forum?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 07:25:34
I'm here. Who broke the old forum?

Wombat
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Yuri Hikado on 26 January 2011, 07:32:42
Yes, of course... but who got blamed?

I don't have a copy of your old avatar on this machine. I'll try digging in the laptop later. Late for bed... gotta work tonight.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 26 January 2011, 07:40:43
Hello.


...Sheng?
Man, the word overlap on this name makes me look more like a troll than I had intended to be.  Feels good!

Anyway, how've you been?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 January 2011, 07:42:57
Man, I almost picked 3rdCanopianFusiliers too.  But...I wasn't cool enough.

Also I must say this is a remarkably pretentious thread title.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 07:45:37
Also I must say this is a remarkably pretentious thread title.

Nothing says pretension like...Arby's, I guess.

Man, I almost picked 3rdCanopianFusiliers too.  But...I wasn't cool enough.

I'm just going to tell myself imitation is a form of flattery, but man, it's weird enough with one bizarro 3CL out there.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 26 January 2011, 07:46:46
Man, I almost picked 3rdCanopianFusiliers too.  But...I wasn't cool enough.

Also I must say this is a remarkably pretentious thread title.
Nope.  You weren't cool enough.  But maybe someday when you meet the man in person, you will be!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 January 2011, 07:47:26
Nothing says pretension like...Arby's, I guess.
Arby's gives me gas.

I'm just going to tell myself imitation is a form of flattery, but man, it's weird enough with one bizarro 3CL out there.
3CL, 3CRC, 3CF.  The 3Amigos that could have been...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 26 January 2011, 07:49:44
I'm just going to tell myself imitation is a form of flattery, but man, it's weird enough with one bizarro 3CL out there.
I'm actually quite glad you think highly enough of me to reference my person as a "bizarro 3CL".
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Wolf Reaper on 26 January 2011, 07:52:53
2x "3rd Crucis".....um, uh oh.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 08:32:07
I'm here, what did I miss?

Wait, who's the other 3CL?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 08:38:58
I'm more interested in getting a nicer colour scheme for the fora than most other things....
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 08:59:46
Yeah, this color scheme is kind of drab and utilitarian.  I wonder when DS will have a chance to fix it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 26 January 2011, 09:03:00
I'm here, what did I miss?

Wait, who's the other 3CL?
Nobody important.  Totally not his girlfriend or anything.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 09:05:12
Remarkable, I registered yesterday, and I could swear there was no AFFS thread then. Heck, was there even a Mechwarrior Hall? And here I'm back and I find you aready have pushed this one 5 pages further. My eyes water, reminiscing of the good old days when we had this little competition with the Ravens... Ah, those were the days!

Thinking of which, where is the spirits locker in here?  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 09:07:10
Remarkable, I registered yesterday, and I could swear there was no AFFS thread then. Heck, was there even a Mechwarrior Hall? And here I'm back and I find you aready have pushed this one 5 pages further. My eyes water, reminiscing of the good old days when we had this little competition with the Ravens... Ah, those were the days!

Thinking of which, where is the spirits locker in here?  ;)

This is the spirits locker, to quote Keith Park (I think) - we have no reserves
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 26 January 2011, 09:17:39
*Kicks the door in* Dragging in the remains of Capellan Hussar Yu Huang behind.

"Anyone want this piece of junk"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 09:29:38
Arby's gives me gas.

I've never eaten it, myself. My policy is never to pay for food I can make perfectly well at home. It'd be like buying a grilled cheese.

3rdCRC is Youngblood.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 26 January 2011, 09:33:08
I love Arby's sandwiches, but I love the curly fries and taters more.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 09:35:11
This is the spirits locker, to quote Keith Park (I think) - we have no reserves

Oh, dear.... Awful, awful, awful. Time to pick up a Successor State to invade and solve the problem, I think. So, who makes the best scotch, barring the Elsies?  ;D

Oh, yes, and what's Arby?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 09:38:21
Oh, yes, and what's Arby?

It's an American fast food chain, known for selling roast beef sandwiches for (at one time) five for a dollar, a price point so improbably low that a thinking man might wonder exactly what was wrong with them.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 09:46:15
Jeez... When I think we're paying roastbeef around 25€ a kilogram here, I'll say the bargain looks fishy  ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 09:50:29
Incidentally, Foxy, how do I get my CDT Battlemaster back?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Davout73 on 26 January 2011, 09:50:59
Also I must say this is a remarkably pretentious thread title.

Pretentious would have been Taco Bell.  After all, they did win the Fast Food Wars....
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 10:25:23
Incidentally, Foxy, how do I get my CDT Battlemaster back?

Just wait, I guess. I registered yesterday, so I guess admins have had time to fix my account again.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 26 January 2011, 10:28:53
Also I must say this is a remarkably pretentious thread title.

Pretentious would have been Taco Bell.  After all, they did win the Fast Food Wars....
5 Guys may have survived in some form or another.  At some point over the centuries they probably had to add another guy or two.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 10:34:18
Also I must say this is a remarkably pretentious thread title.

Pretentious would have been Taco Bell.  After all, they did win the Fast Food Wars....
5 Guys may have survived in some form or another.  At some point over the centuries they probably had to add another guy or two.

So long as there are still independent British style greasy spoons to help combat hangovers and kebab shops for when you are still generating your hangover, I can live without any or all of the chains
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 10:35:08
5 Guys may have survived in some form or another.  At some point over the centuries they probably had to add another guy or two.

My feeling is that the brutal grinding attrition of the Succession Wars reduced them to two guys, but they were on the cusp of bringing three more online when the Jihad hit.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 10:37:24
Quick question completely off the current, fascinating, topic...

What is the purpose of "buddy" lists on these fora/forums?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 10:38:24
Quick question completely off the current, fascinating, topic...

What is the purpose of "buddy" lists on these fora/forums?

No clue, but I'm VERY excited about the "ignore" option.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 10:39:33
Quick question completely off the current, fascinating, topic...

What is the purpose of "buddy" lists on these fora/forums?

No clue, but I'm VERY excited about the "ignore" option.

 }:)

(oh, and I am trying to get through these annoying verification required posts)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 26 January 2011, 10:41:04
God i wondered if it was ever coming back, and then i seemingly missed a day.  You people with your funny time zones :p

But what the hell with verification of every post?  Sheesh.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 10:44:54
God i wondered if it was ever coming back, and then i seemingly missed a day.  You people with your funny time zones :p

But what the hell with verification of every post?  Sheesh.

I know, these barbarians from the wrong side of The Pond, eh?

Apparently the verification thing is only for your first ten posts, hence the posting spam by yours truly!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 26 January 2011, 10:51:22
Good lord, the forum's been up for barely a day, and this place is already up to seven pages? :o
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 26 January 2011, 10:52:57
God i wondered if it was ever coming back, and then i seemingly missed a day.  You people with your funny time zones :p

But what the hell with verification of every post?  Sheesh.
Verification only lasts 10 posts.  You'll get there soon enough.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 10:54:07
Good lord, the forum's been up for barely a day, and this place is already up to seven pages? :o

It's just how we roll.

I don't know anything about SMF...how hard would it be to design an AFFS SMF skin that used AFFS ranks and iconography?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 10:56:36
Good lord, the forum's been up for barely a day, and this place is already up to seven pages? :o

You surely mean only up to seven pages? You know how it goes  ;D

Hello Rorke, nice to see you! How are things up North?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 11:01:30
Good lord, the forum's been up for barely a day, and this place is already up to seven pages? :o

You surely mean only up to seven pages? You know how it goes  ;D

I have clearly set it to some sort of custom page length as from where I sit we are still only on page 2  :-\

EDIT - this is actually ending up being the NPA for page 3!
 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 26 January 2011, 11:10:21
Any idea how you did that? I'm not crazy about these short pages.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:11:30
Good lord, the forum's been up for barely a day, and this place is already up to seven pages? :o
It's just how we roll.

I'm pretty sure that someone broke out a spamcannon or two from the warehouse.  Not that we ever throw anything away, mind you, but you'd be amazed at what we've got in those warehouses.  It's like looking in your crazy aunt's attic, I swear.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 11:12:44
Any idea how you did that? I'm not crazy about these short pages.

Profile>Look and Layout. Near the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:13:54
Good lord, the forum's been up for barely a day, and this place is already up to seven pages? :o

You surely mean only up to seven pages? You know how it goes  ;D

Hello Rorke, nice to see you! How are things up North?

I'm not sure if you mean North of France or up North in the Successor State boards.  I've only glanced into the SS board so far, anyone else braved the muck yet?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:15:20
And I'm still not sure what to make out of Peacemaker's avatar.  That's just a little disconcerting, to say the least.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 26 January 2011, 11:17:19
I'm not sure if you mean North of France or up North in the Successor State boards.  I've only glanced into the SS board so far, anyone else braved the muck yet?
Nothing too horrible yet.  No threads have yet derailed into a flamewar about the Federated Suns, though there are a couple that could do so.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:23:38
I'm not sure if you mean North of France or up North in the Successor State boards.  I've only glanced into the SS board so far, anyone else braved the muck yet?
Nothing too horrible yet.  No threads have yet derailed into a flamewar about the Federated Suns, though there are a couple that could do so.
It's still early and I've yet to see a certain DCMS fan so we'll see how it turns out.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 11:25:24
I'm not sure if you mean North of France or up North in the Successor State boards.  I've only glanced into the SS board so far, anyone else braved the muck yet?

Finland, so that will be North of Europe. Well, braved the muck in the SS boards, but only to testify of my undying loyalty to Hanse. Well worth it, let's show the flag!  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:26:53
I'm not sure if you mean North of France or up North in the Successor State boards.  I've only glanced into the SS board so far, anyone else braved the muck yet?

Finland, so that will be North of Europe. Well, braved the muck in the SS boards, but only to testify of my undying loyalty to Hanse. Well worth it, let's show the flag!  ;)
Eh, let me channel Napeoleon a little bit here bro.

"France...Europe, same difference."
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 26 January 2011, 11:27:20
Any idea how you did that? I'm not crazy about these short pages.

Profile>Look and Layout. Near the bottom of the page.
Thanks!

And I'm still not sure what to make out of Peacemaker's avatar.  That's just a little disconcerting, to say the least.
Thanks! I was mucking through my folders looking for my old avatar when I saw young_lady_clown.jpg and I knew what I had to do.

I'm not sure if you mean North of France or up North in the Successor State boards.  I've only glanced into the SS board so far, anyone else braved the muck yet?
Nothing too horrible yet.  No threads have yet derailed into a flamewar about the Federated Suns, though there are a couple that could do so.
The first thing I should have done when the forums went back up was start a thread called "Why does the FedSuns have much better mechs than the Dracs?".
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 11:28:03
It's still early and I've yet to see a certain DCMS fan so we'll see how it turns out.

I almost paid my brother to register using that username.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:36:57
I'm not sure if you mean North of France or up North in the Successor State boards.  I've only glanced into the SS board so far, anyone else braved the muck yet?
Nothing too horrible yet.  No threads have yet derailed into a flamewar about the Federated Suns, though there are a couple that could do so.
[/quote]
The first thing I should have done when the forums went back up was start a thread called "Why does the FedSuns have much better mechs than the Dracs?".
[/quote]So get on it!  If one of us do it, it's just blatently obvious that we're trolling, but your avatar should distract most people enough to keep the threats down to a minimum.

Seriously man, you gotta do something with that avatar.  It's distracting as hell.   :-X
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:38:43
And I'm not sure what the hell just happened to that post.  I blame Liao, can we get a Task Force together and invade? 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 26 January 2011, 11:39:39
And I'm not sure what the hell just happened to that post.  I blame Liao, can we get a Task Force together and invade?
Is it Saturday already? Man the week goes by fast...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:42:41
And I'm not sure what the hell just happened to that post.  I blame Liao, can we get a Task Force together and invade?
Is it Saturday already? Man the week goes by fast...
Close enough for invading the CapCon. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 11:44:34
The first thing I should have done when the forums went back up was start a thread called "Why does the FedSuns have much better mechs than the Dracs?".

I chalk it up to our exquisite personal hygiene.

Personally, I always really liked playing as the DCMS. They have a lot of off-kilter designs that really add character. I played them a bunch in megamek during my otherwise awful tenure in the FGC, and I managed a pretty solid record against AFFS combined arms forces.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 11:46:52
The first thing I should have done when the forums went back up was start a thread called "Why does the FedSuns have much better mechs than the Dracs?".

I chalk it up to our exquisite personal hygiene.

Personally, I always really liked playing as the DCMS. They have a lot of off-kilter designs that really add character. I played them a bunch in megamek during my otherwise awful tenure in the FGC, and I managed a pretty solid record against AFFS combined arms forces.
So what you're saying is that the reason you did so well at playing a DCMS force where others failed at it is that you don't suck at CBT?  I'm going to so use that.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 26 January 2011, 11:49:35
And I'm not sure what the hell just happened to that post.  I blame Liao, can we get a Task Force together and invade?

We could if Federated Boeing would give us credit again.

And I'm still not sure what to make out of Peacemaker's avatar.  That's just a little disconcerting, to say the least.

Indeed, it scares me a bit too, but my fear of clowns is getting better.

The first thing I should have done when the forums went back up was start a thread called "Why does the FedSuns have much better mechs than the Dracs?".

I chalk it up to our exquisite personal hygiene.

Personally, I always really liked playing as the DCMS. They have a lot of off-kilter designs that really add character. I played them a bunch in megamek during my otherwise awful tenure in the FGC, and I managed a pretty solid record against AFFS combined arms forces.
So what you're saying is that the reason you did so well at playing a DCMS force where others failed at it is that you don't suck at CBT?  I'm going to so use that.

And from observation, I'd say that he was good. Very good, and the FGC 3062 lost a lot that took awhile to recover after 3CL and Kojak left.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 11:50:50
So what you're saying is that the reason you did so well at playing a DCMS force where others failed at it is that you don't suck at CBT?  I'm going to so use that.

Actually I'm pretty terrible at CBT. I like to think I'm a decent team player and reasonably aggressive though, so I'm usually at least fun to play against.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Chunga on 26 January 2011, 11:57:22
Incidentally, Foxy, how do I get my CDT Battlemaster back?

We're working on that.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 12:00:00
So what you're saying is that the reason you did so well at playing a DCMS force where others failed at it is that you don't suck at CBT?  I'm going to so use that.

Actually I'm pretty terrible at CBT. I like to think I'm a decent team player and reasonably aggressive though, so I'm usually at least fun to play against.
No, you're terrible at humility.  ;)  Seriously bud, I've seen you play at GC.  Being a team player is part of being good at CBT and you wouldn't be as well liked as you are if you weren't good at the teambuilding portion of this game.  Trust me.  I've played with and against several people who had a great grasp of tactics and numbers, but couldn't lead worth a tinker's damn.  Their games sucked, hard.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 12:02:12
It's pouring the rain today here in the lovely mountains of Tennessee, and it's supposed to turn into an icy snow bliztkrieg here soon.  Joy.

Someone point me towards the whiskey.  I need to warm up.  ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 12:05:22
It's pouring the rain today here in the lovely mountains of Tennessee, and it's supposed to turn into an icy snow bliztkrieg here soon.  Joy.

Someone point me towards the whiskey.  I need to warm up.  ;D
Mountains of TN?  Where away?  I might have to get up with you for a game sometime since I'm back in the area a lot lately.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 12:07:11
Aw heck, I'm flattered. Thanks guys! I still maintain my greatest contributions to victory last GenCon were (a) convincing Geoff to play, and (b) being amusing enough that people would waste their fire on my almost unkillable Bishamon instead of more high-profile targets.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 26 January 2011, 12:24:03
Let's see......*Knocks down a wall*

OKay, that's MUCH better..... :D

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 26 January 2011, 12:31:45
Incidentally, Foxy, how do I get my CDT Battlemaster back?

We're working on that.

How about ones for us Fiction Authors??  ^-^

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 26 January 2011, 12:45:17
Speaking of "up north" has anybody mentioned that awful four-letter 'F" word yet? I belive that the first should do so should have to offer some kind of penance.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 26 January 2011, 12:47:02
Well, it depends. I have it in my sig.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 26 January 2011, 12:49:02
Speaking of "up north" has anybody mentioned that awful four-letter 'F" word yet? I belive that the first should do so should have to offer some kind of penance.

You mean the Italian car company?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 26 January 2011, 12:52:26
Speaking of "up north" has anybody mentioned that awful four-letter 'F" word yet? I belive that the first should do so should have to offer some kind of penance.

You mean the Italian car company?
Indeed, horrible things...those cars.

I
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 12:54:00
My grandfather worked for Fiat, actually. Probably explains my genetic predisposition to House Davion.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 12:54:28
Unless he's speaking of the former 2IC of the Battlecorps Legion. I know he had to go the moment the BCL went canon, but heck, I mis him some...  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 26 January 2011, 13:11:01
Hullo Kids!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 13:12:08
Hullo Kids!

MDM! Might wanna correct the text below your avatar,
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 26 January 2011, 13:17:47
Misspelling is intentional, per the avatar.  ;)

....oh, that.  #P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 14:02:28
It's pouring the rain today here in the lovely mountains of Tennessee, and it's supposed to turn into an icy snow bliztkrieg here soon.  Joy.

Someone point me towards the whiskey.  I need to warm up.  ;D
Mountains of TN?  Where away?  I might have to get up with you for a game sometime since I'm back in the area a lot lately.

I'm in Johnson City at East Tennessee State University the majority of my time these days.  All my table top stuff is packed away at my mother's house though, I stick mostly with MegaMek when I need a BT fix these days.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 26 January 2011, 14:15:04
Good lord, the forum's been up for barely a day, and this place is already up to seven pages? :o

You surely mean only up to seven pages? You know how it goes  ;D

Hello Rorke, nice to see you! How are things up North?

Well on first impressions old chap, rather civilised thus far.  Which of course we all know will not last.  Especially if my nemesis Quote Monkey disciple of Excel happens to return.

There are no prizes for guessing to whom i refer.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 26 January 2011, 14:26:36
But now we have an "ignore" option!
Nevermind, I can't seem to find it any more...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 14:29:22
But now we have an "ignore" option!

I cannot reiterate enough how excited I am about this.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 26 January 2011, 14:30:28
Where did it go? Wasn't it by the "buddy list" option?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 14:30:44
Ah, I was not referring to these, but to your on-planet current location  ;)
The disturbing thing is that we're having a proper winter this year, and it feels like the coming of an ice age after all the warm winters we've had these last years  ;)

But now we have an "ignore" option!
Nevermind, I can't seem to find it any more...

ignore button? really?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 14:32:40
Where did it go? Wasn't it by the "buddy list" option?

It still is, for me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 14:34:27
Where did it go? Wasn't it by the "buddy list" option?

It still is, for me.

you're clearly "special"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 14:36:24
you're clearly "special"

Profile>Modify Profile>Edit Buddy/Ignore List.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 14:38:12
you're clearly "special"

Profile>Modify Profile>Edit Buddy/Ignore List.

but will you still be my friend on Facebook  :'(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 26 January 2011, 14:40:43
Ah, too right. That was where it was.
Thank you. I checked, and he who's name cannot be spoken is still not with us...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 14:42:26
Ah, too right. That was where it was.
Thank you. I checked, and he who's name cannot be spoken is still not with us...

Perhaps he melted in the torrential rains that part of the world is receiving.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 26 January 2011, 15:01:16
My only gripe is that it still shows you that the ignored person posted. I'd much rather not even see that. :P

Still, it's a significant improvement, great way to cut the spam out of certain threads.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 15:20:34
It's pouring the rain today here in the lovely mountains of Tennessee, and it's supposed to turn into an icy snow bliztkrieg here soon.  Joy.

Someone point me towards the whiskey.  I need to warm up.  ;D
Mountains of TN?  Where away?  I might have to get up with you for a game sometime since I'm back in the area a lot lately.

I'm in Johnson City at East Tennessee State University the majority of my time these days.  All my table top stuff is packed away at my mother's house though, I stick mostly with MegaMek when I need a BT fix these days.
You have got to be kidding me, you're at ETSU?  Hell Lanceman, let me know when you're available and I'll hook you up with a game next time I'm in JC or Kingsport.  I was just wondering if the Sword in the Stone was still open or not, now I'll have to find out for certain, given that it was on Stone Drive last time I was there.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 26 January 2011, 15:53:46
There's an ignore option?!


Booyah!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 26 January 2011, 16:06:17
The first thing I should have done when the forums went back up was start a thread called "Why does the FedSuns have much better mechs than the Dracs?".
Davion: We're just better than you.
By the way, who said that orignally?  I'm thinking of adding it to my Signature.

Ignore button?  No more wading through calculus if I get into a thread up north and the next PerkinsC shows up. 

Also, thanks for pointing out the page length option 3CL! This thread grew 7 pages while I slept. 

Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 16:07:36
By the way, who said that orignally?  I'm thinking of adding it to my Signature.

97Jedi, I believe.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 26 January 2011, 16:35:55
And the AFFSHC once again proves it's the best thread on these boards, 152 posts and counting.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 26 January 2011, 16:37:53
That's really not saying a lot.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 26 January 2011, 16:41:09
Maybe not but something is better than nothing.  Of course the new setup makes NPA claims pretty meaningless.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 26 January 2011, 16:44:25
97Jedi, I believe.
Thanks.  If, he wasn't the true author of the quote, by all means let me know.  In the meantime, all of the Hall and Off Topic will know how I weigh in on the matter.  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 16:44:57
Maybe not but something is better than nothing.  Of course the new setup makes NPA claims pretty meaningless.

But it means we can claim an NPA any time we want!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 26 January 2011, 16:50:16
I do it every time I post.

Booya, by the way.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 16:51:47
I've decided to try out a new Username... what do people think? [spins around a few times flourishing the cape and revealing... what is beneath it]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 16:52:18
I've decided to try out a new Username... what do people think? [spins around a few times flourishing the cape and revealing... what is beneath it]

It's going to be awesome when your username is frozen like that.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 26 January 2011, 16:59:32
I've decided to try out a new Username... what do people think? [spins around a few times flourishing the cape and revealing... what is beneath it]
You can change Usernames after you've already registered?  That's new.

A "page down" button would be nice.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 26 January 2011, 17:00:01
I've decided to try out a new Username... what do people think? [spins around a few times flourishing the cape and revealing... what is beneath it]
You can change Usernames after you've already registered?  That's new.

That you can.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 26 January 2011, 17:00:13
Yeah....much as I hate to moderate in this thread, I'm pretty sure there's a rule against that name...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 17:00:46
I've decided to try out a new Username... what do people think? [spins around a few times flourishing the cape and revealing... what is beneath it]

It's going to be awesome when your username is frozen like that.
LOL, great, a new take on every mom's greatest threat.  "One of these days, they're gonna freeze like that!"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 17:01:27
Yeah....much as I hate to moderate in this thread, I'm pretty sure there's a rule against that name...

What, we can't say sex? I suppose panties are right out then too, huh?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 17:02:35
Yeah....much as I hate to moderate in this thread, I'm pretty sure there's a rule against that name...
Wait, there's rules on what screen name we can use?  }:)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 17:04:13
Yeah....much as I hate to moderate in this thread, I'm pretty sure there's a rule against that name...

Is this better?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 26 January 2011, 17:11:53
Much, thanks. Apologies to everyone, I really should have done this in PM instead of out here in the thread. And for the record, if anyone does have a problem with my space panties, I will gladly take them down.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 17:15:44
Much, thanks. Apologies to everyone, I really should have done this in PM instead of out here in the thread. And for the record, if anyone does have a problem with my space panties, I will gladly take them down.

I don't mind, we are still stretching these pantiesforums to find the fit that's just rightand playing with the new toys
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 17:17:58
And for the record, if anyone does have a problem with my space panties, I will gladly take them down.

I feel like that will make the problem worse.

I just don't get why Sex Panther is a problem; it's used in a PG-13 movie, another mod is a Rock Star Sex God, is there just something perilous about Sex and Panthers together? Besides the obvious, I mean.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 17:19:49
Problem with Space Panties?  Hell, have you not been paying attention?  There's issues with female clowns, space panties are just passe at this point.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 17:21:09
And for the record, if anyone does have a problem with my space panties, I will gladly take them down.

I feel like that will make the problem worse.

I just don't get why Sex Panther is a problem; it's used in a PG-13 movie, another mod is a Rock Star Sex God, is there just something perilous about Sex and Panthers together? Besides the obvious, I mean.

We also have Precentor Pantsless and over here (in Civilisation) pants also mean underwear rather than trousers which are referred to as trousers because we actually make sense (and believe that the letter "U" has a place in an awful lot of places barbarians leave them out)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 17:21:38
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 17:22:38
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 17:24:11
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.

I thought the whole point about nerd (as opposed to Nerd's) sexuality was that it was so shallow a toddler couldn't drown in it (although I am sure there are some weird nerds out there for whom drowning toddlers is part of their sexual mores)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 26 January 2011, 17:24:47
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.
And that's when the Star Wars quotes came out, yer honor, and I had to go on a three-country, thirteen state killing spree...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 17:26:34
And for the record, if anyone does have a problem with my space panties, I will gladly take them down.

I feel like that will make the problem worse.

I just don't get why Sex Panther is a problem; it's used in a PG-13 movie, another mod is a Rock Star Sex God, is there just something perilous about Sex and Panthers together? Besides the obvious, I mean.

We also have Precentor Pantsless and over here (in Civilisation) pants also mean underwear rather than trousers which are referred to as trousers because we actually make sense (and believe that the letter "U" has a place in an awful lot of places barbarians leave them out)

Somehow, that makes sense and yet is strange all at the same time.  Now I'm going to be wondering what other differences there are between the US and UK.  Next you're gonna say that Fish n' Chips isn't Catfish and Ruffles
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 17:30:21
And for the record, if anyone does have a problem with my space panties, I will gladly take them down.

I feel like that will make the problem worse.

I just don't get why Sex Panther is a problem; it's used in a PG-13 movie, another mod is a Rock Star Sex God, is there just something perilous about Sex and Panthers together? Besides the obvious, I mean.

We also have Precentor Pantsless and over here (in Civilisation) pants also mean underwear rather than trousers which are referred to as trousers because we actually make sense (and believe that the letter "U" has a place in an awful lot of places barbarians leave them out)

Somehow, that makes sense and yet is strange all at the same time.  Now I'm going to be wondering what other differences there are between the US and UK.  Next you're gonna say that Fish n' Chips isn't Catfish and Ruffles

There is a whole wikipedia page dedicated to the differences. Personally, I'm envious of the Canadians who get to choose the best of both and their only downsizes are the cold and silly pronounciation of "about"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 17:31:06
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.

I thought the whole point about nerd (as opposed to Nerd's) sexuality was that it was so shallow a toddler couldn't drown in it (although I am sure there are some weird nerds out there for whom drowning toddlers is part of their sexual mores)
Not sure about the drowning toddlers part, but I can speak from experience that female nerds are some of the kinkiest, dirty, lewd people I've ever met and considering my past, that's saying something.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 17:33:14
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.

I thought the whole point about nerd (as opposed to Nerd's) sexuality was that it was so shallow a toddler couldn't drown in it (although I am sure there are some weird nerds out there for whom drowning toddlers is part of their sexual mores)
Not sure about the drowning toddlers part, but I can speak from experience that female nerds are some of the kinkiest, dirty, lewd people I've ever met and considering my past, that's saying something.

Define "girl nerd" for me... I'm trying to work out if my wife is one

We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.
And that's when the Star Wars quotes came out, yer honor, and I had to go on a three-country, thirteen state killing spree...

There is a stack of pre-signed Presidential pardons for just such occasions, to be handed out as needed
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 January 2011, 17:34:56
Not sure about the drowning toddlers part, but I can speak from experience that female nerds are some of the kinkiest, dirty, lewd people I've ever met and considering my past, that's saying something.

I think it's a broad spectrum, but the outliers stand out more.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 26 January 2011, 17:52:05
My office is staffed  by numerous girl nerds. Trust me, they're all dirty, dirty wenches. Mind-scarring is pretty common here.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 26 January 2011, 18:09:29
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
No one's mentioned "going regimental" yet.
 
 
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.
And that's when the Star Wars quotes came out, yer honor, and I had to go on a three-country, thirteen state killing spree...
ISTR a reference in some Star Wars behind the scenes show I saw that suggested underwear doesn't exist in their universe.  Or at least, not in the actor's attire for the filming.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 18:12:49
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
No one's mentioned "going regimental" yet.
 
 
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.
And that's when the Star Wars quotes came out, yer honor, and I had to go on a three-country, thirteen state killing spree...
ISTR a reference in some Star Wars behind the scenes show I saw that suggested underwear doesn't exist in their universe.  Or at least, not in the actor's attire for the filming.

Re: going "regimental", there is still time

Re: Star Wars and underwear, I thought that was a reference to Carrie Fisher's, ahem, lack of support in most of her costumes
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 26 January 2011, 18:13:00
Well, they certainly upset the orbit of Furillo, that's for damn sure.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 26 January 2011, 18:19:02
Found it.  DM's correct, the exact quote from Fisher is "As we all know, there is no underwear in space."
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 18:27:19
(oh, and I am trying to get through these annoying verification required posts)
And this is where I'm going to pick up my effort to stop using the verifications.  Always good to see you Dan.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 18:29:22
It's pouring the rain today here in the lovely mountains of Tennessee, and it's supposed to turn into an icy snow bliztkrieg here soon.  Joy.

Someone point me towards the whiskey.  I need to warm up.  ;D
Mountains of TN?  Where away?  I might have to get up with you for a game sometime since I'm back in the area a lot lately.

I'm in Johnson City at East Tennessee State University the majority of my time these days.  All my table top stuff is packed away at my mother's house though, I stick mostly with MegaMek when I need a BT fix these days.
You have got to be kidding me, you're at ETSU?  Hell Lanceman, let me know when you're available and I'll hook you up with a game next time I'm in JC or Kingsport.  I was just wondering if the Sword in the Stone was still open or not, now I'll have to find out for certain, given that it was on Stone Drive last time I was there.

Sounds like a plan.  Free time is going to be a precious commodity for me this semester though, even on the weekends, but I'll see what I can do.

*looks at rest of the thread*

I step out for a little while and it all goes odd...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 18:31:59
(oh, and I am trying to get through these annoying verification required posts)
And this is where I'm going to pick up my effort to stop using the verifications.  Always good to see you Dan.

S/F

Matt

All done for me! Yay for working at home/doing very little

It's pouring the rain today here in the lovely mountains of Tennessee, and it's supposed to turn into an icy snow bliztkrieg here soon.  Joy.

Someone point me towards the whiskey.  I need to warm up.  ;D
Mountains of TN?  Where away?  I might have to get up with you for a game sometime since I'm back in the area a lot lately.

I'm in Johnson City at East Tennessee State University the majority of my time these days.  All my table top stuff is packed away at my mother's house though, I stick mostly with MegaMek when I need a BT fix these days.
You have got to be kidding me, you're at ETSU?  Hell Lanceman, let me know when you're available and I'll hook you up with a game next time I'm in JC or Kingsport.  I was just wondering if the Sword in the Stone was still open or not, now I'll have to find out for certain, given that it was on Stone Drive last time I was there.

Sounds like a plan.  Free time is going to be a precious commodity for me this semester though, even on the weekends, but I'll see what I can do.

*looks at rest of the thread*

I step out for a little while and it all goes odd...

It didn't go odd, it just finally caught up with us  [drool]

In totally unrelated news, I just spent less money than I thought it would be to but what seems to be the entire Serenity RPG as .pdfs... I am a complete sucker for background!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 26 January 2011, 18:37:56
My campaign in that so far went pretty well until a friend of mine brought in his two friends. The I ended up spending a lot of time laying the hammer down.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 18:38:35
So now I need to figure out how to go about reintegrating myself (partially at least) properly into FedSuns Society.  I can at least keep fighting with the same style with the Ceti Hussars...well except for the liberal use of nuclear weapons as a fall back plan.  ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 18:40:22
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.
And that's when the Star Wars quotes came out, yer honor, and I had to go on a three-country, thirteen state killing spree...

The tricky part is that the countries weren't contiguous.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 26 January 2011, 18:45:22
Were they also landlocked?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 18:48:43
All done for me! Yay for working at home/doing very little
I briefly contemplated opening my phone at work to check the boards but was overwhelmed.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 18:52:18
All done for me! Yay for working at home/doing very little
I briefly contemplated opening my phone at work to check the boards but was overwhelmed.

S/F

Matt

And then you did check them and were underwhelmed?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 18:57:51
And then you did check them and were underwhelmed?
Ah, this brings to mind a former Commandant who said during a US/UK operation, "one people separated by a common language."

I meant that my new job began to overwhelm my time today; I never grabbed my phone to check the interwebs.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 19:01:23
And then you did check them and were underwhelmed?
Ah, this brings to mind a former Commandant who said during a US/UK operation, "one people separated by a common language."

I meant that my new job began to overwhelm my time today; I never grabbed my phone to check the interwebs.

S/F

Matt

I never seem to have a signal at work, a source of much frustration but I hope the new job is busy in a good way rather than bad
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 19:09:56
I never seem to have a signal at work, a source of much frustration but I hope the new job is busy in a good way rather than bad
I've good signal but almost no time.  I try to get in before 0600 to crank out an hour or so of work before people start coming in my office.  All in all, it is good.  Tracy isn't sure what to do with me coming home happy.  Currently, I'm filling the role of both S-3 and Executive Officer for the next two weeks.  There is so much to do but I'm enjoying pretty much all of it.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 19:11:15
I never seem to have a signal at work, a source of much frustration but I hope the new job is busy in a good way rather than bad
I've good signal but almost no time.  I try to get in before 0600 to crank out an hour or so of work before people start coming in my office.  All in all, it is good.  Tracy isn't sure what to do with me coming home happy.  Currently, I'm filling the role of both S-3 and Executive Officer for the next two weeks.  There is so much to do but I'm enjoying pretty much all of it.

S/F

Matt

Wow, that is going to be busy! And I thought work/life sucked that I have to get up at 6, leave for work at 7 and arrive at 8...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 19:14:46
Anyone know what font is used in the userbars?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 19:15:44
Not sure about the drowning toddlers part, but I can speak from experience that female nerds are some of the kinkiest, dirty, lewd people I've ever met and considering my past, that's saying something.

I think it's a broad spectrum, but the outliers stand out more.

True, it is a broad spectrum, but it's sort of like asking if you like whips and chains with or without whipped cream. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 19:18:27
We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.

I thought the whole point about nerd (as opposed to Nerd's) sexuality was that it was so shallow a toddler couldn't drown in it (although I am sure there are some weird nerds out there for whom drowning toddlers is part of their sexual mores)
Not sure about the drowning toddlers part, but I can speak from experience that female nerds are some of the kinkiest, dirty, lewd people I've ever met and considering my past, that's saying something.

Define "girl nerd" for me... I'm trying to work out if my wife is one

We've really descended into the murky depths of nerd sexuality here, haven't we?
Descended hell, we're in a ****** power dive.
And that's when the Star Wars quotes came out, yer honor, and I had to go on a three-country, thirteen state killing spree...

There is a stack of pre-signed Presidential pardons for just such occasions, to be handed out as needed

Simply put DM, if your wife ties you to the bed with a corded mouse, she's somewhat of a nerd.  If she finds a new use for a wireless mouse, she's a full blown female nerd and a keeper.   }:)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 19:19:41
My office is staffed  by numerous girl nerds. Trust me, they're all dirty, dirty wenches. Mind-scarring is pretty common here.
You lucky, lucky dog.  I could only wish my office was so fortunate.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 19:23:14
Wow, that is going to be busy! And I thought work/life sucked that I have to get up at 6, leave for work at 7 and arrive at 8...
I do it for two reasons.  First, I avoid a lot of traffic going that early:  25 minutes vs. 1.5 hours.  Second, it gives me roughly an hour or so to crank out a brief or order for some topic of the regiment.  Slowly but surely I'll be able to begin planning outside of this week.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 26 January 2011, 20:09:06
Speaking as someone who partner is actually nerdier then me I can vouch for the kinkyness of nerdettes.


Being talked dirty to in Quenya is certainly an experience!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 20:19:34
Is this better?
Dan, I honestly believe that Khan of Clan Sex Panther is an excellent title; the forums might have provided an wonderful solution considering your abbreviated title under you avatar.   I think S. Panthe might have worked.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 20:29:28
I'm going to edit it to make more sense
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 20:33:33
I'm going to edit it to make more sense
I don't know.  If I were into homoerotic gaiety I'd roll with S. Panthe.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 20:36:09
I'm going to edit it to make more sense
I don't know.  If I were into homoerotic gaiety I'd roll with S. Panthe.

S/F

Matt


Well, the Fan TRO is Clan Homoerotic Panther but I prefer to be less... labelled, than to be just homoerotic

But design ideas for my Sexually Ambiguous Penguin 'Mech are coming apace...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 20:46:29
But design ideas for my Sexually Ambiguous Penguin 'Mech are coming apace...
You'll note that I've not put a toe in those waters.

Speaking from my normally reserved position, thank you for getting me past the ten post mark and to no more verifications.

As an aside, is anyone watching Castle.  The first twenty minutes of the last episode are great.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 26 January 2011, 20:49:45
But design ideas for my Sexually Ambiguous Penguin 'Mech are coming apace...
You'll note that I've not put a toe in those waters.

Speaking from my normally reserved position, thank you for getting me past the ten post mark and to no more verifications.

As an aside, is anyone watching Castle.  The first twenty minutes of the last episode are great.

S/F

Matt

I haven't got into Castle but remain a viewer of a number of other shows from the US, including NCIS, True Blood and How I Met Your Mother

I really can't be bothered with being reserved on the internet but am careful as I work on the assumption that anything and everything I say or do on here will be brought up in the most awkward circumstances possible... that keeps me somewhat from going off the edge!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Kojak on 26 January 2011, 20:51:49
I watch both Castle and How I Met Your Mother; both great shows, although I like the latter a lot more. Castle is one of those shows that's nice to have on while I'm working on something else.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 26 January 2011, 20:54:04
The most recent Castle episode was pretty good in it's entirety. Especially the "mom" line towards the end. :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 26 January 2011, 21:23:39
GreenDragon present and accounted for.  Now to decipher the letters at the bottom of the screen.  Wish me luck.

Waitasec, that line in your sig... Did I really post that? I am so right!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 January 2011, 21:24:45
I really can't be bothered with being reserved on the internet but am careful as I work on the assumption that anything and everything I say or do on here will be brought up in the most awkward circumstances possible... that keeps me somewhat from going off the edge!
See my job keeps me reserved.
The most recent Castle episode was pretty good in it's entirety. Especially the "mom" line towards the end. :)
I missed that specific line but I did think the episode was really good.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 26 January 2011, 21:32:27
Aw heck, I'm flattered. Thanks guys! I still maintain my greatest contributions to victory last GenCon were (a) convincing Geoff to play, and (b) being amusing enough that people would waste their fire on my almost unkillable Bishamon instead of more high-profile targets.

Speaking of that, wouldn't this new forum look much better with the Ballad posted in it?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 26 January 2011, 21:38:26
My office is staffed  by numerous girl nerds. Trust me, they're all dirty, dirty wenches. Mind-scarring is pretty common here.

I am totally coming for a tour.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 26 January 2011, 21:45:21
Disclaimer: They're also either taken, or lesbians, or varying degrees of both.

Great fun to hang out with, though.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 26 January 2011, 21:54:02
Disclaimer: They're also either taken, or lesbians, or varying degrees of both.

Great fun to hang out with, though.

Never stopped me before. Hell, the first one isn't stopping me now.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 22:06:05
Disclaimer: They're also either taken, or lesbians, or varying degrees of both.

Great fun to hang out with, though.
Hell man, that's not an obstacle, that's an invitation!  If you're ever in doubt, just ask yourself "What would TeamNutmeg" do?  If you're still in doubt, KY-Jelly, a rubber chicken and a vibrating toothbrush are always good options to start with.   :-X
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 22:10:13
Disclaimer: They're also either taken, or lesbians, or varying degrees of both.

Great fun to hang out with, though.
Hell man, that's not an obstacle, that's an invitation!  If you're ever in doubt, just ask yourself "What would TeamNutmeg" do?  If you're still in doubt, KY-Jelly, a rubber chicken and a vibrating toothbrush are always good options to start with.   :-X

:o

A man could have himself a fun time in Vegas with all that.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 26 January 2011, 22:13:48
Weren't at least some of those debunked some time ago?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 22:15:51
Weren't at least some of those debunked some time ago?
*checks notes*

No, they're still legit the last time I checked.  The vibrating toothbrush one in particular is a handy and surprisingly effective little trick, but let's not go any further down that road than possible.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 26 January 2011, 22:20:32
Disclaimer: They're also either taken, or lesbians, or varying degrees of both.

Great fun to hang out with, though.
Hell man, that's not an obstacle, that's an invitation!  If you're ever in doubt, just ask yourself "What would TeamNutmeg" do?  If you're still in doubt, KY-Jelly, a rubber chicken and a vibrating toothbrush are always good options to start with.   :-X

:o

A man could have himself a fun time in Vegas with all that.
You went to Vegas for that?  Hell, you've never left campus in JC have you?  I know plenty of...interesting...people in Sullivan County.  Especially the cops, gotta watch the cops.  One in particular had this thing for handcuffs and hot wax, but she always was a little off.  I'm actually kind of glad to be away from her now, just to be honest.  Too much crazy actually isn't a good thing, despite what some might think.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 26 January 2011, 22:21:48
Wow, what a bad day.  I need some Arby's...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 26 January 2011, 22:34:32
I am totally coming for a tour.
By the way, good sir, when did you go back to the Dragoons patch on your avatar?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 January 2011, 22:46:49
Disclaimer: They're also either taken, or lesbians, or varying degrees of both.

Great fun to hang out with, though.
Hell man, that's not an obstacle, that's an invitation!  If you're ever in doubt, just ask yourself "What would TeamNutmeg" do?  If you're still in doubt, KY-Jelly, a rubber chicken and a vibrating toothbrush are always good options to start with.   :-X

:o

A man could have himself a fun time in Vegas with all that.
You went to Vegas for that?  Hell, you've never left campus in JC have you?  I know plenty of...interesting...people in Sullivan County.  Especially the cops, gotta watch the cops.  One in particular had this thing for handcuffs and hot wax, but she always was a little off.  I'm actually kind of glad to be away from her now, just to be honest.  Too much crazy actually isn't a good thing, despite what some might think.

Haha, I live off campus in one of the student oriented apartment complexes.  I've seen enough bizarre things on Thursday nights to write a book about.  Bunch of young kids that have never been away from home before experiencing life haha.

I'd be afraid of what I would be like if I hadn't got that wild streak done in the Army. :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 26 January 2011, 22:56:31
This place is getting back to normal.

A long day, and still you all manage to post a lot.  This might be the longest thread on the board already.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 26 January 2011, 23:02:04
Seriously, I wish I still lived less than a mile away from an Arby's.  Bad days need to be concluded by consumption of mass quantities of roast beef!  Moving this far away from an Arby's is the worst decision I've made in my life.  Well, and that other thing.  But there was a shot for that...   ::)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 26 January 2011, 23:51:09
Back in my "burger flipping" days I worked at an Arby's, still can't stand the stuff. 

We need a barfing smiley.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 27 January 2011, 00:02:34
I didn't even know they made a barfing smiley.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 27 January 2011, 00:04:49
a vibrating toothbrush are always good options to start with.   :-X

I have a story about that from GenCon '08 I've already told.
Too much crazy actually isn't a good thing, despite what some might think.

Very, very true.

Also, THE BALLAD OF GEOFF:

THE BALLAD OF GEOFF
 
They came to visit the cabin as the sun set, two killers in sharp suits and sunglasses. “Doctor Swift,” said the leader, “I'm with MIIO. You can call me MDM. We need you to come with us.”
 
“I was quit when you came in here,” Geoff said, carving scrimshaw. “I'm twice as quit now.”
 
“Don't give us that bullshit,” snapped the other. “You were the best. You are the best. You trained us, taught us everything you know.”
 
“I taught you everything you know. Not everything I know.”
 
“Don't think we don't know that,” snapped the first one. “Dammit man, we need you! The Federated Suns need you! Doesn't that mean anything to you?”
 
“It meant something to the man I was. That man's dead now. Now get out, I got a bottle of whiskey I'm racing to the bottom of.”
 
“Let's go, 3CL,” said the leader. “We came here looking for a hero. Guess we looked in the wrong place.”
 
Time passed. Bottles piled up on the floor, and cigar smoke filled the room with a yellow gray haze. Geoff looked at the flag on the wall: the Sword, the Sunburst. Semper Fi. Memories, from a long time ago. Another lifetime. Another person? Geoff, take his head off! Gauss him, doc! Get Swift up here, we got good men who need saving.
 
A single tear rolled down his cheek. The bottle of whiskey in his hands shattered. “Semper Fi. Let's roll.”
 
Outside the shack, a woman sat, tears streaming down her face, her belly heavy with child. “Don't go, Great White One,” she said. “You've taught my people so much. You have taught me how to love, how a man with five degrees makes love.”
 
“Baby,” said Geoff, “I gotta go. There's the love I feel for you, and the love I feel for my cause, and baby, I love you both, so you stay here and you just wait, and I'll come back here with laurels, baby, laurels. Now I gotta run. I got a date with lady death, and I always was her favorite dance partner.”
 
***
 
The convention hall was starkly lit, halogen lights casting everything into sharp relief. The few remaining Davion players were huddled at the end of the table, shellshocked. One hugged himself, numbly repeating “it's only a game, only a game, man.” Another frantically burned record sheets. The Word of Blake players sneered as they closed in, taking potshots at crippled light 'mechs for fun.
 
Then, suddenly, the doors blew open, exploding off their hinges. Backlit by the sunlight now flooding in, there stood Dr. Geoff Swift, PhD. He looked over the room slowly, then smiled.
 
“Thirty-to-six, eh? I thought you said you were in real trouble.” Then he broke into a graceful, loping run, with the casual elegance of a big cat in the wild, a supremely confident predator. He threw his hand out, and the dice arced towards the table. “No need to look,” he said, through a hearty grin, “it's boxcars.”
 
A Word of Blake player laughed cruelly and dashed over to see. His face fell. “By god, he's right.”
 
Geoff's other arm came up, and another pair of dice arced through the air. “That's for the hit location.” A shout went up. “Boxcars again!” “I told you ladies once,” said Geoff. “Did I stutter?”
 
The day passed in a flurry of images, snapshots in time. Twelve after twelve. Gauss rifle after gauss rifle. Headcap after headcap. A WoB player, desperate, tried to sweep the leg, but Geoff was too fast for him, and he pivoted and sliced their throat with his bowie knife, the blood tracing a scarlet line in the air. The Word of Blake begging for mercy, smashing their dice. Geoff shooting their team leader in the face with his Glock. The slow clap. MDM, smiling, for the first time: “I'm glad you're on our side.”
 
Geoff looked at the Davion flag, fluttering in the breeze. He smiled. “You know, so am I.”
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 27 January 2011, 00:21:08
God bless you, Dr. Swift.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 27 January 2011, 00:21:40
I go to sleep and the new boards have more than 2000 additional posts. Pretty good for 9 hours.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 27 January 2011, 01:39:40
Anyone know what font is used in the userbars?
In mine, Continuum.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 27 January 2011, 01:59:57
Waitasec, that line in your sig... Did I really post that? I am so right!
3CL thinks it was you, and no one else is taking blamecredit.

Castle got a bit twisty this week.  One step closer to finding Beckett's mom's killer.  Another season or two maybe...  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 27 January 2011, 02:02:42
And that was post number ten!  No more deciphering captcha.  Though I must say, this stuff wasn't the worst I've ever seen.  All single-case letters.  No "is that '1B' or 'l8'?"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Joskney on 27 January 2011, 05:07:14
Speaking as someone who partner is actually nerdier then me I can vouch for the kinkyness of nerdettes.


Being talked dirty to in Quenya is certainly an experience!

Mine has never talked dirty to me in Quenya, I had better harrass her. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Drufause on 27 January 2011, 05:08:27
Recon Present
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 27 January 2011, 06:42:53
Well in reply to Foxbat, my bad sir.

It's not so bad at the moment, alternating one day to the next from 0 to -20c.  We have an unusual weather system in my little part of Finland.  It follows it's own somewhat arcane set of rules.  But it's perfectly tolerable.

It even rained the other day, which thrilled this somewhat homesick Englishman.  I've missed the rain, i grew up with it.  Having 4-5 months of no rain always vexes me a little.  Of course the rain then turned the existing snow and ice into a semi lethal skating rink.  Walking through town was somewhat dangerous, but the Town had gritters out insides of ten minutes and the danger passed.  Have to hand it to my Nordic hosts, they're endearingly efficient with municipal matters.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 27 January 2011, 09:58:24
Ahhhh, leaving the office at noon today. Feels good.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 27 January 2011, 10:00:11
Ahhhh, leaving the office at noon today. Feels good.

Another day off...

Except I didn't go to bed until after 2am and woke at 7.30am to be awake to take delivery of something  [tickedoff]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 27 January 2011, 10:01:27
Another day off...

Except I didn't go to bed until after 2am and woke at 7.30am to be awake to take delivery of something  [tickedoff]

7:30 AM? You poor thing! How do you stand it?

I wake up at six to catch my train.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 27 January 2011, 10:04:11
7:30 AM? You poor thing! How do you stand it?

I wake up at six to catch my train.

7.30 on a day off, my usual work start time is 6

We already went through this with Charlie 6 and he clearly wins by being at his desk at 6 in the morning, and being a super-tough US Marine
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 27 January 2011, 10:04:17
I'm just working at home today. I love having such a flexible job.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 27 January 2011, 10:05:46
I now have had a total of 7 hours of sleep in the last 3.4 days. I don't know why my stomach won't settle, but I'm so tired...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 27 January 2011, 10:07:04
Is it nausea or pain?  If it's the latter, I suggest Xantac (or a generic equivalent).  Works wonders for me when I have that problem.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 27 January 2011, 10:07:44
We already went through this with Charlie 6 and he clearly wins by being at his desk at 6 in the morning, and being a super-tough US Marine

Plus, the haircuts!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 27 January 2011, 12:59:38
Bumping this bad lad, would be untoward to let it drop beneath lesser threads.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 27 January 2011, 13:14:30
That would be a travesty.  I'm sure this thread will eventually dominat them all.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 27 January 2011, 13:34:44
No matter how far it drops, this thread will always be at the top of the list..... in my heart! *sniff*
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 27 January 2011, 13:52:39
That's the spirit lads.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 27 January 2011, 14:03:57
I watch both Castle and How I Met Your Mother; both great shows, although I like the latter a lot more. Castle is one of those shows that's nice to have on while I'm working on something else.

Hmmm, we've had Castle first season a few months back here. Pretty fun and good till now.  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 27 January 2011, 14:06:42
Well in reply to Foxbat, my bad sir.

It's not so bad at the moment, alternating one day to the next from 0 to -20c.  We have an unusual weather system in my little part of Finland.  It follows it's own somewhat arcane set of rules.  But it's perfectly tolerable.

It even rained the other day, which thrilled this somewhat homesick Englishman.  I've missed the rain, i grew up with it.  Having 4-5 months of no rain always vexes me a little.  Of course the rain then turned the existing snow and ice into a semi lethal skating rink.  Walking through town was somewhat dangerous, but the Town had gritters out insides of ten minutes and the danger passed.  Have to hand it to my Nordic hosts, they're endearingly efficient with municipal matters.

Glad to hear it's fine, Rorke! Regarding Town service and weather, I'm afraaid we can't have it both ways : usually mild winters make for nightmare traffic whenever we get serious snow. B serious snow, I mean anything above 5cm... Sad.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 27 January 2011, 14:07:29
Chicken salad sandwich is not quelling my Arby's craving...  :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 27 January 2011, 14:08:12
Here in Bakersfield, a single cm of snow would shut the place down. It would be a disaster, and has been.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Drufause on 27 January 2011, 14:09:07
Chicken salad sandwich is not quelling my Arby's craving...  :(
I have Thick Slice Oscar Meyer Bologna in the fridge just take the red plastic wrap off first.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 27 January 2011, 14:13:14
Why spend so much on bologna? It's all the same, so I usually rock the Bar-S brand (and their salami's actually better than OM)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 27 January 2011, 14:20:51
I have Thick Slice Oscar Meyer Bologna in the fridge just take the red plastic wrap off first.
Thanks!   ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Drufause on 27 January 2011, 14:27:53
Why spend so much on bologna? It's all the same, so I usually rock the Bar-S brand (and their salami's actually better than OM)
Hot Dogs and Bologna are what ever is on sale at Walmart the week I restock.  I have Had Bar S Also like Rodeo sometimes.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 27 January 2011, 14:54:38
I can buy that. Whenever Farmer John hot dogs go on sale, I stock up. :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 27 January 2011, 14:55:13
Ah, as we're talking readymade food, there's this new papillote package by Maggi here : 45 minutses in the oven, and you get great tasting chicken wings. But it does not beat the roasted chickens I can buy at the market on sundays.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 27 January 2011, 16:19:14
And that was post number ten!  No more deciphering captcha.  Though I must say, this stuff wasn't the worst I've ever seen.  All single-case letters.  No "is that '1B' or 'l8'?"

Shakespear on a budget: "One Be or not One Be, that is the question..."  ;D

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 27 January 2011, 16:56:16
Shakespear on a budget: "One Be or not One Be, that is the question..."  ;D
Thanks for the laugh.  ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 27 January 2011, 17:35:02
Ah, as we're talking readymade food, there's this new papillote package by Maggi here : 45 minutses in the oven, and you get great tasting chicken wings. But it does not beat the roasted chickens I can buy at the market on sundays.

This year I hope to learn how to spatchcock a chicken. It's not as dirty as it sounds.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 27 January 2011, 18:02:34
By the way, good sir, when did you go back to the Dragoons patch on your avatar?

This avatar was more easily found. I'll eventually look for the one with the Hilltoppers logo on it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 27 January 2011, 18:08:35
Better?  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 27 January 2011, 18:12:48
Wow Can't belive that there are 18 pages all redy 18 pages.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 27 January 2011, 18:26:16
This avatar was more easily found. I'll eventually look for the one with the Hilltoppers logo on it.
Do you have a collection of avatars to choose from or something?  The fact that you have one with the Hilltoppers logo on it doesn't surprise me, but the fact that you made at least two different avatars does somehow.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 27 January 2011, 18:43:33
This year I hope to learn how to spatchcock a chicken. It's not as dirty as it sounds.

No way it could be and still be something you'd speak of in public. Or legal.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 27 January 2011, 19:43:48
We already went through this with Charlie 6 and he clearly wins by being at his desk at 6 in the morning, and being a super-tough US Marine
I don't know about the tough part but I get up at 0430.  I'm looking forward to my reverse commute in six months that lets me get up an hour later.

And yes, the haircuts...soon to be $6 a week down the tube.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 27 January 2011, 22:03:00
I'm so glad I live 10 minutes from the office. Long commutes must be awful.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 27 January 2011, 22:24:31
I think that I had the worst commute here for a while, 1.5 hours each way in Northern VA traffic.  I did that for two years until I moved to Charleston.  Now I laugh at all the idiots who complain about the traffic here.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 27 January 2011, 22:39:30
I used to have a 2hr commute in stop-n-go traffic for a while. Then I moved to a different place, and it was a 2-hr bus ride.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 28 January 2011, 00:20:08
Only 5 mins for me. Or 20 mins walk when it is so cold the car freezes up because there is no place at work to plug in.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 January 2011, 00:37:27
That would be a travesty.  I'm sure this thread will eventually dominat them all.
One thread to rule them all, eh?
 
 
 
 
Better?  :)
Just noticed and was wondering if there was method to the madness was all.  I'm not the kind to go telling other people what Avatar they should or shouldn't use.  Usually.
 
 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 28 January 2011, 02:25:25
Got back from the theater a little while ago.  A good night was had by all.  I haven't laughed that hard in quite a while.  Black Comedy is a good play.   ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 28 January 2011, 08:36:14
Ah Friday.  If I can just make it till 1 p.m. (I swear 9:20-1:00 at a college is seems like an eternity when 8-5 at a newspaper office "wasn't that bad".)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 28 January 2011, 09:53:49
Ah Friday.  If I can just make it till 1 p.m. (I swear 9:20-1:00 at a college is seems like an eternity when 8-5 at a newspaper office "wasn't that bad".)
I know the feeling, but I think it has something to do with in an office, you're payed to be a professional and are expected and can expect your coworkers to act the part.  In college, at least in my experience, you're paying them so you can have the pleasure of dealing with unprofessional, immature idiots who offer up their opinion as if it were Gospel.  Plus you have to deal with young 20-somethings and they usually get under my skin pretty quickly.  Give me a trades school over a liberal arts college any day of the week.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 10:05:11
In college, at least in my experience, you're paying them so you can have the pleasure of dealing with unprofessional, immature idiots who offer up their opinion as if it were Gospel. 

That's actually been more my experience of the work environment, except for the paying them part. As soon as they figure that out, though...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 28 January 2011, 10:10:33
That's actually been more my experience of the work environment, except for the paying them part. As soon as they figure that out, though...
Eh, it may be a reflection on our careers 3CL.  My career field has those types, but by and large they either don't rise very far or are quickly isolated where they can't harm much.  I've noticed that the more quickly a career type has to deal with the repercussions of an action, the less inclined that career type is to have the immature, unprofessional type present.

And before you think that I'm disparaging your career Ed, I just mean to imply that an office environment usually is not an environment that promotes an immediate repercussion for any given action.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 10:17:06
No, I quite agree. There are a lot of safeguards set up here to insure that blame flows downhill...in fact, I once read a description of how the Italian Army worked in 1941 that was eerily similar to our corporate culture.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 28 January 2011, 10:20:47
Pointy-Haired Major?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 10:23:08
Pointy-Haired Major?

Just that it's much easier to follow procedure and not risk getting in trouble for thinking outside the box than it is to work to solve a problem. I'm a firm believer in a pretty good solution now being better than a perfect one much later, especially since I have to interact with angry customers in real time. However, like most managers (or dictators), the people in authority here have an almost limitless ability to endure the suffering of others.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 28 January 2011, 10:26:13
I won't even start on work, let alone careers.  Way too bitter hehe
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 10:30:52
I'm looking forward to being a stay-at-home dad, even though it will probably be the most work-intensive job of my life.

Also, I have a seriously bad craving for waffles, possibly with pecans. Or carmel pecan cinnamon rolls.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Davout73 on 28 January 2011, 10:37:30
I'm looking forward to being a stay-at-home dad, even though it will probably be the most work-intensive job of my life.

Nothing can really prepare you for it  ;)

Get the little ones into a routine, and stick to it as best as you can.  Worked wonders for me when I was essentially stay at home all last year.

Davout73
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 10:41:45
Get the little ones into a routine, and stick to it as best as you can.  Worked wonders for me when I was essentially stay at home all last year.

That's our plan. Fortunately I still have at least year or two to gird my metaphorical loins...and to learn how to cook.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 28 January 2011, 10:45:12
Just keep the Clan sourcebooks on a high shelf.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 28 January 2011, 10:47:33
I too aspire for the stay at home dad role. Teachers (IF they can find work) are far better compensated then landscapers--even when said landscaper has a degree and knows what he is doing. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 10:48:19
Just keep the Clan sourcebooks on a high shelf.

I'm betting that the cruel vagaries of fate will mean that we end up with a lacrosse player.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 10:51:09
I too aspire for the stay at home dad role. Teachers (IF they can find work) are far better compensated then landscapers--even when said landscaper has a degree and knows what he is doing.

Similar boat here; Melanie is going to be a Montessori teacher, and they can do quite well. Not to say, that if I found something more remunerative I wouldn't gladly work instead of her.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 28 January 2011, 10:54:11
I'm betting that the cruel vagaries of fate will mean that we end up with a lacrosse player.
Nope, even lacrosse is to intellectual for that kind of fate.  You're going to wind up with a Defensive Lineman, sure as the world.  I'm thinking along the lines of Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds.   ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 10:56:17
Nope, even lacrosse is to intellectual for that kind of fate.  You're going to wind up with a Defensive Lineman, sure as the world.  I'm thinking along the lines of Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds.   ;D

The only defensive lineman named after someone from Earth: Final Conflict (this was not my call).
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 28 January 2011, 11:02:34
Also, I have a seriously bad craving for waffles, possibly with pecans. Or carmel pecan cinnamon rolls.
Pancakes with vanilla and walnuts.  I'm hungry now. :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 28 January 2011, 11:34:10
The only defensive lineman named after someone from Earth: Final Conflict (this was not my call).
That's going to be one poor confused kid.  I can almost here it now.

Do you know your three "R"s son?

"Royal Oak, Royal Soverign and Revenge.  But I thought that there were more than that."
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 11:42:22
That's going to be one poor confused kid.  I can almost here it now.

Do you know your three "R"s son?

"Royal Oak, Royal Sovereign and Revenge.  But I thought that there were more than that."

Indeed there are! Royal Oak, Royal Sovereign, Resolution, Revenge and Ramillies were the five "R" class battleships, and Repulse and Renown were originally intended to be two more, but were instead built as battlecruisers. HMS Resolution's my favorite.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 28 January 2011, 11:53:51
The Brits always had the best names for their ships...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 January 2011, 11:57:54
The Brits always had the best names for their ships...
[stupid]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 28 January 2011, 12:35:08
Better?  :)

Excellent! Hello, Geoff!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 28 January 2011, 12:37:08
I used to have a 2hr commute in stop-n-go traffic for a while. Then I moved to a different place, and it was a 2-hr bus ride.

Well, it's1 hour for me with the tramway. Longer actually than driving, but I do enjoy the opportunity to read while commuting  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 January 2011, 12:41:05
Well, it's1 hour for me with the tramway. Longer actually than driving, but I do enjoy the opportunity to read while commuting  ;)

I used to have a 2 hour train/bus commute a number of years ago, But now it's about an hour by train and then a brisk mile walk which takes about ten minutes. Generally, I sleep on the train these days.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 28 January 2011, 13:16:20
Well, I also happen to do likewise... I also have some distance to walk from the tram station, but I'm quite fortunate a good bit of it is through our Jardin Public, Bordeaux's  park.

BTW, I just finished the 7th volume of Goodkind's Sword of Truth, the last one in the library next door. Has he gone on after this?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Thoth on 28 January 2011, 13:42:46
Back and in control! That's right!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 28 January 2011, 15:20:19
BTW, I just finished the 7th volume of Goodkind's Sword of Truth, the last one in the library next door. Has he gone on after this?
Naked Empire, Debt of Bones (Novella), and the Chainfire Trilogy in the Sword of Truth series.
The Law of Nines (related stand-alone set in our world (long after the end of Confessor), starring Alexander Rahl of Orden, Nebraska, and a mysterious woman named Jax).
And a new Richard and Kalahn Novel (not SoT) - The Omen Machine is due soon.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 28 January 2011, 16:10:20
Thanks, GreenDragon, I know now what I'll ask them to buy. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: TeamNutmeg on 28 January 2011, 16:18:35
I'm looking forward to being a stay-at-home dad, even though it will probably be the most work-intensive job of my life.

More so than you'd ever imagine.  It's less the difficulty or intensity of the work than the the fact that it pretty much doesn't stop until they're about two.

Best thing we had happen for us was my wife teaching our daughter baby sign language for "milk."  The ability to determine or rule out at least one source of crying can't be measured.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 28 January 2011, 17:07:11
I've had to live at work-it's not a very fun thing.

I'm about half an hour from lock the door to reporting that I'm at work right now.

As long as the  [tickedoff] [soapbox] carrier pukes don't all decide to come in at once.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 28 January 2011, 17:59:15
I thankfully have a moderate walk to walk to college/work.  Though in minus 20 or so, the bus becomes a favoured option.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 28 January 2011, 18:25:51
You people with your mass-transit options! I prefer my 10 minute drive. Well 15 for the weekend gig.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 28 January 2011, 18:47:19
I've had to live at work-it's not a very fun thing.
Particularly when work is your HMMWV and your home is a cot next set up next the right front wheel...or a submarine.  Come to think of it yours sucks more.  Congratulations!

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 28 January 2011, 19:20:29
That's one thing I don't miss about being in the military - coffin racks and cots.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 28 January 2011, 19:29:40
That's one thing I don't miss about being in the military - coffin racks and cots.
I took a tour of USS NEW YORK, one of the new LPDs, back in December.  The racks are "L" shaped with the short end being the vertical one.  That seemed to be an improvement.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 28 January 2011, 19:39:05
Just had a Philly Beef n Swiss at Arby's, with large Curly Fries.  My inner Davion is satisfied.  :)

Now I must plan a trip to Nashville to feed my inner Steiner some Red Robin.
"Redddd Robin!  YUM!"   ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 28 January 2011, 19:53:31
Just had a Philly Beef n Swiss at Arby's, with large Curly Fries.  My inner Davion is satisfied.  :)

Now I must plan a trip to Nashville to feed my inner Steiner some Red Robin.
"Redddd Robin!  YUM!"   ;D
Red Robin is Steiner?  What the hell?  I thought Red Robinson would have been too easy!

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 28 January 2011, 19:53:43
Particularly when work is your HMMWV and your home is a cot next set up next the right front wheel...or a submarine.  Come to think of it yours sucks more.  Congratulations!

S/F

Matt
I figure it's about the same.  I don't have to worry about getting eaten alive by bugs, or sleeping in some kind of sand, but instead, I have about 6'*2'*1.5' box, and somebody who doesn't know the meaning of "shower" living near me.  #P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 January 2011, 20:06:48
I drive 5 minutes or less to the local schools I substitute at.  If I get the Pine Bluff PD job I'm applying for my commute'll get a bit longer, but still no more than 15 minutes.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 28 January 2011, 20:19:42
Red Robin is Steiner?  What the hell?  I thought Red Robinson would have been too easy!

S/F

Matt
I think that was the census on the Forum That Was.  We could start a new thread I suppose...

BTW, who drew that picture that links Arby's and the FedSuns?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 28 January 2011, 20:48:18
I figure it's about the same.  I don't have to worry about getting eaten alive by bugs, or sleeping in some kind of sand, but instead, I have about 6'*2'*1.5' box, and somebody who doesn't know the meaning of "shower" living near me.  #P
Wide open spaces tend to diffuse the shower thing right up until you can smell yourself.  Nearly a month in a MOPP suit will do that though.  My sleeping bag smelled like F.A.B. or Feet, Ass, Balls.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 28 January 2011, 22:53:00
Do you have a collection of avatars to choose from or something?  The fact that you have one with the Hilltoppers logo on it doesn't surprise me, but the fact that you made at least two different avatars does somehow.

The one with the Dragoons logo is just the picture from Wolf and Blake. The one with the Hilltoppers is the one that Adrian Gideon altered for me upon request.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 28 January 2011, 23:01:12
I bougt a house close to work just so that I could have a 10-minute walk and not sweat scraping windows in winter if I don't feel like it. Bundling up and walking reminds me of when I was in grade school in Northern Illinois and actually had to walk over a mile to school through waist-high snow (I was a tiny kid; on a normally-sized kid, it would have been knee-high). Sadly, I get called more and more to other sites and thus have to drive in against the chance I would need to hustle home to get the car to head to the other plants. C'est le vie.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 28 January 2011, 23:09:31
Ahhh, Northern IL winters. Got to lov... No, no you don't.  The misses and I are seriously considering moving down to Arizona. It would be easier for her to find work as a teacher and, well, I'll continue doing whatever it is I do.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 29 January 2011, 00:01:54
Ahhh, Northern I'll winters. Got to lov... No, no you don't.  The misses and I are seriously considering moving down to Arizona. It would be easier for her to find work as a teacher and, well, I'll continue doing whatever it is I do.
Warning: AZ's education system is abysmal, and teachers' pay in particular is considered a misdemeanor against humanity.

OTOH, I'm missing it right now.  In AZ, soon it will be time to plant flowers and do landscaping and such.  Where I am now, it's cold and snowy with no end in sight.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 29 January 2011, 00:37:18
Hmmm, a friend got a job down there, and is getting paid pretty well, down by Buckeye. She's a first year teacher doing Kindergarten. I've never been down there, I'm thinking going this summer, to get a feel for the "dry heat". I work outside 12 months a year(for now), so hopefully I can swing it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 29 January 2011, 00:38:27
My calendar says about 7.5 weeks left - almost halfway there.  And since winter has been coming on early and ending early the past few years, we may actually be past the halfway mark.  Just have to make ith through February.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 29 January 2011, 00:47:24
Wide open spaces tend to diffuse the shower thing right up until you can smell yourself.  Nearly a month in a MOPP suit will do that though.  My sleeping bag smelled like F.A.B. or Feet, Ass, Balls.

S/F

Matt
;D  One of the funniest things I saw when I was in the Seabees was a chief taking off his MOPP gear.   We'd been in the field for about a week and finally managed to get the showers going, sure enough the first in were a bunch of chiefs.  Just when the last one was getting in the shower someone decided to toss a teargas canister.  He didn't even have a chance to dry off.  Looked like he'd been in a coal mine all day.   ;D

I'm not sure but I think it was the battalion USMC adviser who tossed the grenade.   ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 29 January 2011, 01:15:26
Hmmm, a friend got a job down there, and is getting paid pretty well, down by Buckeye. She's a first year teacher doing Kindergarten. I've never been down there, I'm thinking going this summer, to get a feel for the "dry heat". I work outside 12 months a year(for now), so hopefully I can swing it.
Good luck on the job hunt then.  My teacher friends were not as lucky as yours, and burnt out after a couple of years.

But word of advice: going to the Valley of the Sun in the middle of the summer will make you run away back to where you came, screaming all the way.  I moved there in June about 10 years ago, and almost did exactly that, even though I spent 99+% of my time indoors.  It really does help to build up gradually to the summer desert temperatures.  People that spend a lot of time outdoors tend to get their work done quickly in the mornings during summer (before 8AM, because it will already be above 100F by then).

If you can survive June, July, and August though, the rest of the year isn't so bad, and the winters are very pleasant.  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 29 January 2011, 01:17:02
So the whole time I was at work today, I had---unbeknownst to me--a temperature of 103 Fahrenheit. It's dropped to 101, but it's safe to say I don't feel my best.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 29 January 2011, 01:34:15
Eat some soup, drink some orange juice, get some sleep.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 29 January 2011, 01:45:35
Red Robin is Steiner?  What the hell?  I thought Red Robinson would have been too easy!

S/F

Matt
Yes, we claimed it. Accidently. But Top said it was so.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 29 January 2011, 01:50:57
I claim Outback Steakhouse for Davion!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 29 January 2011, 01:51:29
As featured in Miniature Rules #80.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 29 January 2011, 01:57:15
Ed, rest, eat, drink fluids, get well.
Doug, I miss those, and your other comics.  Any chance that you'll be doing more again in the future?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 29 January 2011, 01:58:18
I'm going to try after next thursday. We just reclaimed my spare room and my sanity.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 29 January 2011, 02:03:13
Glad to hear.  Though I find that sanity is overrated.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 29 January 2011, 03:06:26
Tomorrow night I should finish up the first Breadbox movie, Powerplay Hockey U.S. v. U.S.S.R.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 29 January 2011, 05:13:48
Yes, we claimed it. Accidently. But Top said it was so.
Well, so long as it was an accident.
I claim Outback Steakhouse for Davion!
I'll celebrate that tonight by doing curbside pick-up from said named restaurant!

S/F

Matt

PS - The down side of getting up early during the week is that I'm reading the boards at 0500 on a Saturday.  Stupid commute.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 29 January 2011, 07:06:33
;D  One of the funniest things I saw when I was in the Seabees was a chief taking off his MOPP gear.   We'd been in the field for about a week and finally managed to get the showers going, sure enough the first in were a bunch of chiefs.  Just when the last one was getting in the shower someone decided to toss a teargas canister.  He didn't even have a chance to dry off.  Looked like he'd been in a coal mine all day.   ;D

I'm not sure but I think it was the battalion USMC adviser who tossed the grenade.   ;D
Man that's evil.  We cut a deal with a NMCB Det. (Seabees) for them to provide showers while they shared our field kitchen back in April '03.  I hadn't showered for 35 days.  On second thought, let me retract my "Man that's evil" comment; after seven days CS into the showers is rather funny.  After 35 days it would have been grounds for justifiable homicide but I digress.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 29 January 2011, 07:47:26
No shower for 35 days?  Sheesh i am soft, 35 hours and i'm going slightly mad.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 29 January 2011, 09:07:21
35 days? The longest I went without a shower while in the military was 5 or 6 days.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 29 January 2011, 09:55:09
35 days? The longest I went without a shower while in the military was 5 or 6 days.
There weren't a lot of shower facilities on the march towards Baghdad.  As soon as I told my battery that we were going to the assembly area I went and took a shower.  So that's like 19 March to 21 or 22 April; I think we got in too late for shower hours the first night or something stupid like that.  I went through a lot of wet wipes and was washing my clothes in an empty powder canister twice a week.  Living in a trash dump for ten days didn't help either.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 29 January 2011, 11:08:30
I'm going to try after next thursday. We just reclaimed my spare room and my sanity.

Your sanity had its own room? What didn't I think of that??  ;)

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 29 January 2011, 11:37:24
Ahhhh well in wartime one would expect some privations, but goodness that is still a long time.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 29 January 2011, 12:14:48
Your sanity had its own room? What didn't I think of that??  ;)

Craig
Try locking the door, though, mine got out.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 29 January 2011, 12:21:56
I claim Outback Steakhouse for Davion!

I also claim Texas Land and Cattle because of their smoked sirloin for House Davion. Oh, those slivers of perfectly smoked sirloin are so wonderful.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 29 January 2011, 12:47:04
Ahhhh well in wartime one would expect some privations, but goodness that is still a long time.
I had done a twenty some odd day stretch the previous October in Ft Bragg so I had a little practice at it.  Besides, if I hadn't had a staff meeting one day I could have shaved a week of that stretch in Iraq.  Oh well.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 29 January 2011, 14:47:34
I had done a twenty some odd day stretch the previous October in Ft Bragg so I had a little practice at it.  Besides, if I hadn't had a staff meeting one day I could have shaved a week of that stretch in Iraq.  Oh well.

S/F

Matt
Meetings.  They do suck important time away from you to do things like become hygienic, and actually work.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 29 January 2011, 15:25:49
I am amused. To deal with my cold, my wife put some vapor rub under my nose. As such, I am currently sporting a hitler 'stache for medicinal reasons.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormlion1 on 29 January 2011, 15:32:09
Your easily amused it seems.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 29 January 2011, 15:34:15
Well....yeah.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 29 January 2011, 15:44:28
Only it's in mint green, so not like Hitler Hitler, but Emo Rave Hitler!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 29 January 2011, 15:47:13
Well, he's certainly got the hair for it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 29 January 2011, 15:48:59
There's some GREAT Emo Rave Hitler videos on YouTube. Mel Brooks would be PROUD.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 29 January 2011, 15:58:27
As with many other links posted to these forums, I will stand by my policy of 'No clickie."
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 29 January 2011, 16:49:14
Meetings.  They do suck important time away from you to do things like become hygienic, and actually work.
Yes they do.
Well....yeah.
I for one wish I could do it more.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 29 January 2011, 20:30:09
I also claim Texas Land and Cattle because of their smoked sirloin for House Davion. Oh, those slivers of perfectly smoked sirloin are so wonderful.
If we keep on claiming restaurants for Davion, somebody's going to claim Panda Express and start another Succession War  :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 29 January 2011, 20:33:54
Unlikely. After all, why on earth would you claim Panda Express for yourself? Were I a Davion, I'd claim it in the name of  House Liao.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 29 January 2011, 20:34:34
Aren't Panda's only found on the planet Liao anyway?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 29 January 2011, 20:42:07
Unlikely. After all, why on earth would you claim Panda Express for yourself? Were I a Davion, I'd claim it in the name of  House Liao.
Well, pandas are some good eatin'.  Somebody's bound to want that added to their Davion menu at some point.
 ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 30 January 2011, 01:38:50
Lots of things can be good eating.  The question is would you like to eat them?  And do they taste gamey?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 30 January 2011, 01:55:56
Lots of things can be good eating.  The question is would you like to eat them?  And do they taste gamey?

And: are there prions?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 30 January 2011, 01:57:58
Well, that last one is a rather recent development.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 30 January 2011, 03:56:02
And: are there prions?
Only if the "thing that's good eating" has been eating others of its species.  So kids, don't eat cannibals, and we'll all be fine.  ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 30 January 2011, 04:10:12
Food of the Gods, A.C. Clarke...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Belisarius on 30 January 2011, 08:35:40
And... I'm back. What'd I miss?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 30 January 2011, 09:57:44
Sunday morning!  And a pile of reading in front of me.  Hooray for human genetics.  [tickedoff]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 30 January 2011, 11:03:48
Sounds delightful.  I've just finished a delightful Walter John Williams Trilogy for about the fourth time.  I think i prefer my reading material over yours.  Although i admit yours sounds a touch more cerebral.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 30 January 2011, 11:09:43
It's not that bad.  It was a tad overwhelming at first, but I haven't had a biology class in eight years so I'm just a little rusty.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 12:09:20
I spent my Sunday morning refilling my humidor, breaking down a Lego UCS Tie Interceptor, running 3.0 miles, showering, having a pint and half of Negra Modelo, and increasing my post count.

S/F

Matt
 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 30 January 2011, 12:14:48
That's a damn productive Sunday. So far I woke up and played with my cat. Oh and made coffee.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 12:21:42
That's a damn productive Sunday. So far I woke up and played with my cat. Oh and made coffee.
It is a byproduct of my early, a leisurely 0600ish, reveille.  On the flip side my bed time is like your average eight year olds.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 30 January 2011, 12:30:33
Man that'd kill me, i'm way too much of a night owl.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 30 January 2011, 12:31:37
I'm a vampire myself. This time of year, I go to work when it's and come home when it's dark
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 30 January 2011, 12:34:08
Hmm, I woke, fed and played with the cats, made eggs and toast and washed them down with apple juice, showered and took care of the ablutions, took the laundry out of the dryer, tossed some blankets into the washer, and watched some TV. In an hour or so I'll be loading the remains of the tree I had cut down a few months ago onto a friend's truck so he can have firewood. More productive than I like to be on a Sunday, that's for sure.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 30 January 2011, 12:35:30
On a different note, my youngest cat, Buddy, is terribly clever. When I mess with him and he can't get to my hand before I pull it away, he just turns and chomps on my foot. That's a damn good cat! Never had a cat before with that level of pettiness and fierceness. Awesome!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 30 January 2011, 12:37:35
So, Nerd, we just started a new DnD campaign here with my local group - and it's a pirate campaign. The Player Characters just got rescued from pirates by a privateer and  have been incorporated into the crew. My character is on the Gold Crew with the Captain, ship's Mage, and one of the other PCs. We've already been stirring up the animosity between Blue and Gold, going out of our way to complain about how badly Blue runs the ship and how we always have to clean up after them.

I just found out that the DM now has an app on his phone to ring Ship's Bells every quarter hour. :P

http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/high-seas-of-saraphiel (http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/high-seas-of-saraphiel)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 30 January 2011, 12:38:50
On a different note, my youngest cat, Buddy, is terribly clever. When I mess with him and he can't get to my hand before I pull it away, he just turns and chomps on my foot. That's a damn good cat! Never had a cat before with that level of pettiness and fierceness. Awesome!

Cassi will get so pissy with Amanda or I that she'll wait a good five minutes when she thinks we're not paying attention, and come chomp our arm. Except that she's terrible about being subtle, so 9 times out of 10, we're ready for her. It's a little bit hilarious.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 12:39:47
Hmm, I woke, fed and played with the cats, made eggs and toast and washed them down with apple juice, showered and took care of the ablutions, took the laundry out of the dryer, tossed some blankets into the washer, and watched some TV. In an hour or so I'll be loading the remains of the tree I had cut down a few months ago onto a friend's truck so he can have firewood. More productive than I like to be on a Sunday, that's for sure.
You sir, are doing more than I'd want to on a Sunday.  I heft my remaining half pint in your galatic direction.  Galatic being more nonspecific than general.

Man that'd kill me, i'm way too much of a night owl.
I used to be and my wife is.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 30 January 2011, 12:40:02
My cat is a pretty conniving too. She just waits till you forget you were teasing her, and she'll come and attack your offending member.
She is often times too smart for her own damn good.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 30 January 2011, 12:40:40
Food of the Gods, AC 20

fixed that for ya.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 12:57:33
Has anyone else noticed a reduction in functionality with regard to adjusting one's own profile.  Yesterday, I had all sorts of options (to include ignore user/buddy list) but now I'm relegated to my pre-10 post Summary-Account Settings-Forum Profile trifecta.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 30 January 2011, 13:03:18
Open your Profile and scroll over the 'Modify Profile' and you have 6-8 options to choose from, including the Buddy List/Ignore option
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 13:07:04
Open your Profile and scroll over the 'Modify Profile' and you have 6-8 options to choose from, including the Buddy List/Ignore option
Thank you! I was really hoping to just fix my time.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 30 January 2011, 13:08:55
Thank you! I was really hoping to just fix my time.

S/F

Matt

Suuuuuure ya were.  ^-^ That's why you mentioned the "ignore" function in your query. :p

Don't feel bad, we've all been itching to block 3CL for some time. Join the club, it's fun!  [rockon]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 30 January 2011, 13:11:02
Y'know, part of me wishes that the Captcha was a permanent part of our new forum experience. I would without a doubt begin tagging all of my posts with the Captcha text I had to fill out. I've already  noticed a few letter combinations that have been at times quite apropos, and not a little funny.  :P



#fuyurc
#buctux (for edit)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 30 January 2011, 13:24:03
Aren't Panda's only found on the planet Liao anyway?

No, that the Chancellor in drag..... :D

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 30 January 2011, 13:25:52
That's a damn productive Sunday. So far I woke up and played with my cat. Oh and made coffee.

Could have been worse....you could have made the cat and played with your coffee.... :D

There are days I might have done something like that, only I don't have a cat or drink coffee..... [watch]

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 13:36:12
Suuuuuure ya were.  ^-^ That's why you mentioned the "ignore" function in your query. :p

Don't feel bad, we've all been itching to block 3CL for some time. Join the club, it's fun!  [rockon]
You got me.  That is until I realized the awesomeness of the pending 2011 release of a re-sculpt/re-release or something of the generally unseen TDR.

Actually, I was hoping the forum would have an ignore thread option for those times when good discussion, friendly banter, and informed opinions degenerated into unconstrained quote fests of unquestionably biased origin.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 30 January 2011, 13:57:49
Suuuuuure ya were.  ^-^ That's why you mentioned the "ignore" function in your query. :p

Don't feel bad, we've all been itching to block 3CL for some time. Join the club, it's fun!  [rockon]
Wait, who?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 30 January 2011, 14:03:37
'zactly!  ;)

#uwutbr
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 30 January 2011, 14:44:27
Oh ho ho. You bastards.

On a happier/not in jest note, my fever finally broke today, which means after spending my weekend passed out, I get to...go back to work?  ??
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 14:51:50
Oh ho ho. You bastards.

On a happier/not in jest note, my fever finally broke today, which means after spending my weekend passed out, I get to...go back to work?  ??
Yahtzee!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 30 January 2011, 15:02:09
Oh ho ho. You bastards.

On a happier/not in jest note, my fever finally broke today, which means after spending my weekend passed out, I get to...go back to work?  ??

Take it like that... think of all the extra work you'd have had to tackle in a shortened delay had your recovery not been so speedy  :P
As for me, it has been more than 10 years at least since I've had to call sick at work eh eh...  }:)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 30 January 2011, 15:11:16
So, Nerd, we just started a new DnD campaign here with my local group - and it's a pirate campaign. The Player Characters just got rescued from pirates by a privateer and  have been incorporated into the crew. My character is on the Gold Crew with the Captain, ship's Mage, and one of the other PCs. We've already been stirring up the animosity between Blue and Gold, going out of our way to complain about how badly Blue runs the ship and how we always have to clean up after them.

I just found out that the DM now has an app on his phone to ring Ship's Bells every quarter hour. :P

http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/high-seas-of-saraphiel (http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/high-seas-of-saraphiel)
Just have your Blue Crew leader be short, self-important, and buy his crew's loyalty.

The ship's bells things is kind of cool though.  And you should find a Boatswain's Whistle for the real effect! ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 15:16:40
The ship's bells things is kind of cool though.  And you should find a Boatswain's Whistle for the real effect! ;D
Or a test of the ship's chemical, general, and collision alarms followed by Sweepers.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 30 January 2011, 15:20:42
Well, apparently, Dan could only get hold of a half-ton S10 shortbed, so we only got about half the wood into it. Have to do the rest next weekend or whenever. Still, good to get rid of some of it at last.

Blah. Snow is forecast for the middle of the week. Just when I have to drive across town for meetings.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 30 January 2011, 15:22:29
Regarding profile options, since this is a new forum, I would expect some options to disappear forever. As an example, it was once an option on the old boards for users to be able to change their names. As that became something of an issue with moderation, that option was removed from people's control, leaving many users with names they assigned themselves for fun without the ability to return to names they wanted.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 15:24:21
Blah. Snow is forecast for the middle of the week. Just when I have to drive across town for meetings.
I'm going to the field for a training exercise right as a front rolls through with 100% rain and a twenty degree drop in high temperature.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 30 January 2011, 16:55:49
Just have your Blue Crew leader be short, self-important, and buy his crew's loyalty.

The ship's bells things is kind of cool though.  And you should find a Boatswain's Whistle for the real effect! ;D

Yeah, Blue Crew leader is the First Mate, who's a bit of a blowhard/hardass...

We're potentially getting a third crew. Not sure what we call them?





#RURAGG
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 30 January 2011, 16:56:37
Shore Detachment.

Ensure they have all the extra booze.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 30 January 2011, 17:09:13
Shore Detachment.  Ensure they have all the extra booze.
Cynicism like that is a hallmark of those on a second re-enlistment.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 30 January 2011, 18:09:39
Yeah, Blue Crew leader is the First Mate, who's a bit of a blowhard/hardass...

Blowhardass? Heh!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 30 January 2011, 19:49:06
beats "blowass" I guess....
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 31 January 2011, 06:38:49
Wow, I go away for a long weekend to a city called Bath (to clarify, it took Dillo Chan a while on Facebook to realise it wasn't just a large tub) and you make lots more posts.... and virtually none of it is constructive  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 31 January 2011, 07:14:56
Wait.  We sometimes make constructive posts?!?  :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 31 January 2011, 07:37:22
Wow, I go away for a long weekend to a city called Bath (to clarify, it took Dillo Chan a while on Facebook to realise it wasn't just a large tub) and you make lots more posts.... and virtually none of it is constructive  ;)

My parents used to regularly visit friends in Bath; one was a retired RN officer who'd served in the Second World War, but I was alas too young too appreciate it at the time.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 31 January 2011, 07:53:45
My parents used to regularly visit friends in Bath; one was a retired RN officer who'd served in the Second World War, but I was alas too young too appreciate it at the time.

Lovely place, small enough to walk around but we have now been 3-4 times and tend to go shopping or out for food rather than appreciate the amazing architecture...

This time we also went to the fabulous Spa baths... luxury filled with women in swim-wear  [rockon]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 31 January 2011, 16:13:04
I tired and sick.  Can I go home yet?  Oh, wait I just got to work.   :-\
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 31 January 2011, 21:00:36
Wait.  We sometimes make constructive posts?!?  :D
I'm certain it is unintentional

Dan, welcome back from the long weekend it sounds like fun.  I'm going to the field for two days of training which isn't.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 31 January 2011, 21:16:07
Crap sandwich! Why is it that the last disc of the complete season is always the one that screws up on me?!?! Now I have to wait a week or so to get a replacement set (because Amazon cannot send me a single disc that works, it can only be the entire set...), then I can see the final parts of Chuck season 2. Consarn it!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 31 January 2011, 21:28:55
Crap sandwich! Why is it that the last disc of the complete season is always the one that screws up on me?!?! Now I have to wait a week or so to get a replacement set (because Amazon cannot send me a single disc that works, it can only be the entire set...), then I can see the final parts of Chuck season 2. Consarn it!

Oh, that sucks. You're into the best part of the series. It declines precipitously after season two, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 01 February 2011, 00:14:24
And the bad weather finally hits. -35F wind chill expected through out the night. -16F wind chill as of last weather blurb.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 01 February 2011, 00:42:18
Apparently, if it gets real bad here, work might actually be cancelled. Talking with the guy who's been there 49 years, this would be the third time he could remember such a thing happening. Me? I plan to make the hike like I usually do in the ice and snow, unless they do keep the plant closed, since it would be a non-paid day anyway, apparently. Of course, I did just bash my knee real nicely coming in from taking out the trash. Hands full with garbage bag, no slip, all's clear and well-balanced, slip. I canna win.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 01 February 2011, 02:03:20
And the bad weather finally hits. -35F wind chill expected through out the night. -16F wind chill as of last weather blurb.
Its gonna hit SE Iowa tomorrow.  We got some ice, and a little snow already.  Some more coming over night.  There should be about 3-6 inches on the road when I leave for work tomorrow afternoon, and over a foot when I'm trying to get home.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 01 February 2011, 08:18:36
Wow, I go away for a long weekend to a city called Bath (to clarify, it took Dillo Chan a while on Facebook to realise it wasn't just a large tub) and you make lots more posts.... and virtually none of it is constructive  ;)

Ahhh Bath.  I used to live in Bristol until 2 years ago, it's about half an hour away.  Nice town, beautiful even.  Though shamefully expensive, and full of rich people.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 01 February 2011, 08:20:26
I was talking about Bath there.

Oddly all the people i knew in Bath, have moved away the last few years.  But it is a very pretty town, the drive from Bristol if you go the quiet country roads is pretty.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 01 February 2011, 08:37:34
...and my plan continues apace, whereby I force the LGS to finally restock their minis section by buying up the old and unpopular ones that have been their entire stock for over two years now. Downside is, I'm now faced with the same problem they are: What the heck do you do with a sack fulls of stuff like Matadors, Mandrills, Eagles, Garms, and their like?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Belisarius on 01 February 2011, 09:04:37
Hey, the Garm's got a RAC variant... you could do something with that...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 01 February 2011, 10:25:52
I just got my new bookshelves delivered, and they are awesome.  Nice, solid pine.  I have a couple like them that my parents bought some 2 decades ago, so they last forever.  Also, my apartment smells very nice now. :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 01 February 2011, 11:01:50
I used nice pine CD/DVD racks to hold my paperbacks. They look awesome.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 01 February 2011, 11:04:02
I totally need more bookshelves. I'm still giving serious thought to turning one of the upstairs bedrooms into a library. I just think it would fill up too quickly.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 01 February 2011, 11:07:00
When David Souter retired from the Supreme Court, he had to buy a new house because the weight of his books threatened the structural integrity of his old one.  He is my hero.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 01 February 2011, 11:11:02
Just how many of us are bibliophiles? I know I am one myself.
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Post by: trboturtle on 01 February 2011, 12:00:29
I have about 2000 books in my bedroom -- does that count??  ???

Craig
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 01 February 2011, 12:36:59
I have 10 bookshelves dedicated to paperbacks, 2 hutches to hardbacks, 1 shelving unit to my own stuff, and a full sized legal cabinet to gaming materials.

I. HATE. TREES.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 01 February 2011, 12:58:08
I love books, but a Horders marathon convinced me that maybe I didn't need all of the books I owned. I do own a number of rare specialty naval history books, still, including a copy of Edgar March's hard to find British Destroyers: 1892-1953 that's worth quite a bit.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 01 February 2011, 13:34:04
I couldn't tell you how many books I have, not counting the Battletech section.  Most of my collection is an eclectic mix though, ranging from various History books to books on philosophy and religion.  My main sections though, oddly enough, revolve around the Foxfire series.  Quite a bit of good information there.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 01 February 2011, 13:47:18
I couldn't tell you how many books I have, not counting the Battletech section.  Most of my collection is an eclectic mix though, ranging from various History books to books on philosophy and religion.  My main sections though, oddly enough, revolve around the Foxfire series.  Quite a bit of good information there.

The Appalachian lore publications? My mom has lots of those.
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Post by: Rorke on 01 February 2011, 14:15:06
Huge CBT collection takes up a lot of my book shelving.  Along with a decent chunk of fiction, and a small spread of history and biography.

Need to work on that tbh.
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Post by: Klep on 01 February 2011, 14:24:24
My library is largely comics trades, CBT stuff, Star Wars novels, and then a collection of other fiction and some non-fiction.  I need more shelves than just for my books though, because my DVD/Blu-Ray library is also large and constantly growing.
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Post by: greatsarcasmo on 01 February 2011, 14:26:43
I saw that Hoarders episode. I just took three big boxes of books to Goodwill. Used book sales are my kyrptonite. Luckily I just got a sweet job as a shelver at my local library--so I get my book fix in that way.Oh, and they are having a massive used book sale...  :-\   
I've been on a cleaning/organizing binge on the "Nerd Room" (as my fiancee' calls it), got two shelves empty on the book case and got my mini/model assembly table all nice and neat.
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 01 February 2011, 14:27:40
I've got a pretty large collection and having just bought one new bookcase at Ikea must sadly conclude that it isn't enough :'(

I've recently started on Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series and have now read (and own) the first 7 and the TV series on DVD and have had to decide to take a break and read other things before buying more!
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 01 February 2011, 14:29:44
But I'm probably going to get rid of a load of Douglas Reeman and Alexander Kent books (same author, different pen-names: all seem to have the same plot and characters...) but I haven't decided between eBay or charity shops
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 01 February 2011, 14:36:12
See, I only collect series and favorite authors and important-to-my studies books. I read and dumped all my Grisham novels years ago, as they have little re-read value, along with the Xanth series, Shannara, Elenium, and the Clive Cussler stuff I'd accidently collected somehow.
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Post by: Peacemaker on 01 February 2011, 14:58:37
You can never have too many good books. I've only got two bookshelves worth of reading material, but I'm still young. There's plenty of time for me to amass a stockpile of good literature and BattleTech books.
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Post by: 97jedi on 01 February 2011, 15:52:40
I've culled mine in fits and starts over the years, and right now I have two overstuffed boxes waiting to be taken to a used book store or to be donated. I bought and in about five minutes filled to overflowing two plastic storage tubs with books, did not empty even two shelves to do it. I will need at least three more, just to clear off the books I've read from the shelves. Many other such tubs already occupy the bedroom. I'm not even counting textbooks and such, or gaming books. I have at least six big tubs of BT sourcebooks and novels, and probably two more worth of loose books from the past couple years. It adds up quickly. Sheesh, I need about four long boxes for all the comics I've been amassing the past couple years, too. I really need to thin that down and sell some stuff, but since I don't need the money I have little motivation.
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Post by: Rorke on 01 February 2011, 15:53:43
That's the spirit.  Though i do miss a proper book shop now, living overseas narrows ones options immensely.

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Post by: Rorke on 01 February 2011, 16:50:15
One ought to mention my large collection of Graphic Novels too.

The Preacher, Sandman (my gfs tbh), 100 Bullets, The Walking Dead, Transmetropolitan, DMZ, Y The Last Man....and a ton more
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 01 February 2011, 17:05:48
My and my girlfriend only have a handfull of graphic novels. I have Team Yankee and the Mirror Universe Saga from DC Star Trek. She has God Loves, Man Kills and it's sequel. The original, however, is sealed, framed, and signed by Stan Lee and Chris Claremont.
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Post by: GreenDragon on 01 February 2011, 17:10:18
I didn't know there was a sequel.  When did it come out?
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Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 01 February 2011, 17:40:04
I didn't know there was a sequel.  When did it come out?

Four, five years ago?
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 01 February 2011, 17:45:52
Oh hey! Just found someone else to add to my ignore list! I'm lovin' this! The AFFSHC hasn't looked this crisp in a long time!  ;D
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Post by: Paladin1 on 01 February 2011, 17:46:26
The Appalachian lore publications? My mom has lots of those.
That would be the one.  I like them due to knowing many of the places and families mentioned throughout the series.  The fact that they document many of the things that I knew while growing up doesn't hurt either, like planting by the signs and what not.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 01 February 2011, 17:47:28
I've culled mine in fits and starts over the years, and right now I have two overstuffed boxes waiting to be taken to a used book store or to be donated. I bought and in about five minutes filled to overflowing two plastic storage tubs with books, did not empty even two shelves to do it. I will need at least three more, just to clear off the books I've read from the shelves. Many other such tubs already occupy the bedroom. I'm not even counting textbooks and such, or gaming books. I have at least six big tubs of BT sourcebooks and novels, and probably two more worth of loose books from the past couple years. It adds up quickly. Sheesh, I need about four long boxes for all the comics I've been amassing the past couple years, too. I really need to thin that down and sell some stuff, but since I don't need the money I have little motivation.

Heya bub. I take it you're holding up  under the weather? Shutting down the Tavolini early today, we'll see what tomorrow brings.

That said, I got mad props all over twitter for being one of the few coffee shops open today. :P
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Post by: Paladin1 on 01 February 2011, 17:51:35
Huge CBT collection takes up a lot of my book shelving.  Along with a decent chunk of fiction, and a small spread of history and biography.

Need to work on that tbh.
I know the feeling, my CBT collection has it's own shelving system and I've still got TROs laying all over the house.  Hey, you never know when or where inspiration might strike...

Now if I could just keep the cats out of my minis...like that's ever going to happen.  #P
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Post by: Rorke on 01 February 2011, 17:57:40
Ahhh higher shelves help on that matter.

Oh and totally with you on TROs all over the house.  I have that too.
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Post by: Rorke on 01 February 2011, 17:59:15
Oh and i must check this ignore function out.  I have the first two slots reserved already for a certain unreasonable Cappie, and the other for a certain quote happy muppet.  But perhaps i should enjoy neither of them has made any appearance here yet.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 01 February 2011, 18:01:56
Ahhh higher shelves help on that matter.

Oh and totally with you on TROs all over the house.  I have that too.
Nope, tried that.  Mine uses the big screen as a launch pad to get over there.  I'm just waiting on it to come down one of these days.
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 01 February 2011, 18:15:22
Oh hey! Just found someone else to add to my ignore list! I'm lovin' this! The AFFSHC hasn't looked this crisp in a long time!  ;D
:<
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 01 February 2011, 18:20:22
...and my plan continues apace, whereby I force the LGS to finally restock their minis section by buying up the old and unpopular ones that have been their entire stock for over two years now. Downside is, I'm now faced with the same problem they are: What the heck do you do with a sack fulls of stuff like Matadors, Mandrills, Eagles, Garms, and their like?
Christmas presents?  Alternatively, blow them up for fun, then melt the larger pieces into musket balls?
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Post by: 97jedi on 01 February 2011, 21:21:18
Heya bub. I take it you're holding up  under the weather? Shutting down the Tavolini early today, we'll see what tomorrow brings.

That said, I got mad props all over twitter for being one of the few coffee shops open today. :P

Dude, don't even get me started. My car is almost completely buried.
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Post by: Klep on 01 February 2011, 21:29:35
I wish I could take some of that snow off your hands.  I love the snow and I'm not getting any.   :(
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Post by: GreenDragon on 01 February 2011, 21:41:31
Four, five years ago?
That explains it.  I stopped reading Marvel in the mid-90s.  Picked back up on a few titles right after Heroes Return - for about a year or so.  I just don't enjoy the writing from Marvel anymore.

Edit: Thinking about it.  I dropped all my Marvel titles at the same time all my Ultraverse titles were being cancelled.  Now I see the causality.
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Post by: trboturtle on 01 February 2011, 21:44:48
http://thewelshmanwrites.blogspot.com/2011/02/creating-new-idea-in-and-old-universe.html (http://thewelshmanwrites.blogspot.com/2011/02/creating-new-idea-in-and-old-universe.html)

Where WM explains the LCTs......

Craig
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 01 February 2011, 22:53:43
Just a lot of rain here so far, but with temps dropping through the 20s and still falling, I expect ice in the morning.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 01 February 2011, 23:37:43
Chicago has been utterly destroyed. Even my own work, which has not had a snow day in 20 years of institutional memory, has closed.
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 01 February 2011, 23:45:22
I think Bakersfield should have a sympathetic snow day. We, however, will maintain a tradition of simply giving kids 2 hours of extra sleep in the morning.
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Post by: nerd on 01 February 2011, 23:59:49
Eh, it's just been cold and wet out here in Bremerton.  We had frost last night, but nothing too bad.

Oh, and I was able to use a very important piece of calibration gear today.  Just getting something done, and knowing how to use equipment is very satisfying.
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Post by: Joskney on 02 February 2011, 00:06:37
Not much snow here, maybe and inch or two.  Just darn cold and wind.  Though the wind has subsided to single digits from the 30mph earlier
Herrick Lane Weather Station
Air Temp -33 °F
Dew Point -40 °F 
Rel Humidity 68 %
Wind Speed Avg 7 MPH from the SW
Wind Speed Gust 9 MPH
Time Stamp 2011-Feb-01 21:55:47 MST
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Post by: greatsarcasmo on 02 February 2011, 00:46:50
Being 60 miles from Ed, I'll concur, Northern IL is being slammed. I got stuck plowing in the country, walked a mile and half. One on the worst experiences
 ever.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 02 February 2011, 01:40:28
Ah, glorious news. HMS Bulldog, one of my favorite British destroyers for the name alone (not to mention the capturer of an ENIGMA machine from U-110 in 1941), was refitted with the best-named weapon of all time, the "Hedgehog" ASW mortar!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Hedgehog_anti-submarine_mortar.jpg)
Forget Guthrie's guitar; this machine kills fascists.
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Post by: Peacemaker on 02 February 2011, 02:45:14
Everything outside looks like a glazed doughnut. Awesome.
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 02 February 2011, 02:56:11
Crap, it's clear. It's gonna be cold here. :/
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Post by: Paladin1 on 02 February 2011, 07:21:13
I think I dodged a bullet.  It's 55 degrees and cloudy here in WV.  I was really expecting to get hit by at least part of this storm but all it did was rain.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 02 February 2011, 07:42:26
Crap, it's clear. It's gonna be cold here. :/

Still snowing here. Not looking forward to my walk yo work in a few minutes...
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Post by: Weirdo on 02 February 2011, 09:20:30
Ah, glorious news. HMS Bulldog, one of my favorite British destroyers for the name alone (not to mention the capturer of an ENIGMA machine from U-110 in 1941), was refitted with the best-named weapon of all time, the "Hedgehog" ASW mortar!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Hedgehog_anti-submarine_mortar.jpg)

I've seen one of those on the deck of a museum DE in Galveston I visit on occasion. Knowing nothing about the system, am I correct in guessing that it's short-ranged, but murderous on any sub caught within the area of effect?
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Post by: Paladin1 on 02 February 2011, 09:31:39
 It's moderate range, for the time period, but you're correct in that it's murder on a SS.  Unlike depth charges, these don't explode unless you hit something.  With each mortar packing, IIRC, around 45 lbs of high explosive, even one is enough to kill your average Type VII or IX sub.
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Post by: Rorke on 02 February 2011, 10:07:04
Ahhh what a truly nasty idea, like it.  We had some bloody odd ideas during WW2, but many of them were outstanding.  I read a account of British experimental weapons not too long ago, can't for the life of me find it now i need it.  I seem to recall it was written by the novelist Nevil Shute.  Though actually now i think it's introduction was by Shute.  Was quite enjoyable, and illuminating on some quite unusual concepts.

Should i find the thing i'll be sure to mention the name and author here.
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Post by: 97jedi on 02 February 2011, 10:37:24
Just shoveled the walk for the first time in a couple decades. Why did I buy the house with the longest front walk in town? Damnation, my back is killing me. Drifts of over four feet were perilous to walk through much less shovel clear, minimum I found was to my knees (nearly two feet with the boots on). Done, though, which is what matters. I'm not even bothering to clear off the car since they never plow my street there's no sense hoping to be able to drive for a few more days. If work's on tomorrow, I will be walking.
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Post by: BlackAce on 02 February 2011, 11:08:43
Ahhh what a truly nasty idea, like it.  We had some bloody odd ideas during WW2, but many of them were outstanding.  I read a account of British experimental weapons not too long ago, can't for the life of me find it now i need it.  I seem to recall it was written by the novelist Nevil Shute.  Though actually now i think it's introduction was by Shute.  Was quite enjoyable, and illuminating on some quite unusual concepts.

Should i find the thing i'll be sure to mention the name and author here.

We also had some completely barking ones, too. Panjandrum anyone?
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Post by: Rorke on 02 February 2011, 11:10:05
You guys are really getting a ton of the old white stuff at the moment then?

Me i'm kinda used to it residing in deepest darkest Finland, but i feel for you.  Snow works a pain in the arse, and back.

Oh the Pajandrum was mentioned in great detail, bloody barking mad concept too. 
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 02 February 2011, 11:33:58
Ahhh what a truly nasty idea, like it.  We had some bloody odd ideas during WW2, but many of them were outstanding.  I read a account of British experimental weapons not too long ago, can't for the life of me find it now i need it.  I seem to recall it was written by the novelist Nevil Shute.  Though actually now i think it's introduction was by Shute.  Was quite enjoyable, and illuminating on some quite unusual concepts.

Should i find the thing i'll be sure to mention the name and author here.

The Wikipedia article comments that a Sub-Lieutenant Nevil Shute was part of the project....
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 02 February 2011, 11:44:21
I've seen one of those on the deck of a museum DE in Galveston I visit on occasion. Knowing nothing about the system, am I correct in guessing that it's short-ranged, but murderous on any sub caught within the area of effect?

It's, as Paladin said, a powerful and dangerous WWII-era ASW weapon; an ahead-throwing salvo mortar (it fired all of those mortar bombs off at once), it could be fired while the warship still had an ASDIC contact, and since they only detonated on impact, the destroyer wouldn't lose ASDIC contact unless it struck paydirt. Or Nazis, as the case may be. It had a probability of kill of about 23 percent, compared to around 9 percent for depth charges. Mister Hitler should never have trifled with hedgehogs.
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Post by: Rorke on 02 February 2011, 11:53:08
Righty ho managed to find the book i mentioned earlier.

Secret Weapons of World War 2 - Gerald Pawle (foreword by Nevil Shute)

it was published by Ballantyne Books in 1967.  My copy i found in a second hand book store in Jakobstad Finland of all places, well i do live here.  Thankfully it was dirt cheap and asides a certain yellowing of pages, in mint condition. 

I last read it some time ago, but flicking through it seems to primarily focus on Royal Navy experimental weapons.  So it's title is a bit of a misnomer.  But still i recall it being rather entertainingly written, should any of you feel the urge to go seeking your own copy.
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 02 February 2011, 11:56:01
Righty ho managed to find the book i mentioned earlier.

Secret Weapons of World War 2 - Gerald Pawle (foreword by Nevil Shute)

it was published by Ballantyne Books in 1967.  My copy i found in a second hand book store in Jakobstad Finland of all places, well i do live here.  Thankfully it was dirt cheap and asides a certain yellowing of pages, in mint condition. 

I last read it some time ago, but flicking through it seems to primarily focus on Royal Navy experimental weapons.  So it's title is a bit of a misnomer.  But still i recall it being rather entertainingly written, should any of you feel the urge to go seeking your own copy.

Don't forget that in the 1960s a lot of the good stuff was still covered by the Official Secrets Act and only came out 50 years after the end of the war, in the 1990s
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 02 February 2011, 12:10:57
Thank god we didn't stick with that acronym...
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Post by: fltadm on 02 February 2011, 15:34:42
Witch leads to "what is this obsession Americans have with acronyms." Why not just abrevate?
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 02 February 2011, 15:52:00
Witch leads to "what is this obsession Americans have with acronyms." Why not just abrevate?
It's the compromise for not making German the national language. We acronym our abbrieviations, rather than combining words wholesale.
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Post by: Traecer Revenant on 02 February 2011, 15:57:24
Witch leads to "what is this obsession Americans have with acronyms." Why not just abrevate?
It's how Americans created new words until the 1990s.  Since then, we just SmooshOldWordTogether or SpelThingsFonetikaly.

Oh, except for the government.  It still uses acronyms because ISLMOI (It Sounds or Looks More Official and/or Important).
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Post by: Lord Harlock on 02 February 2011, 16:19:52
Personally, I thought it was because we just did it for the laughs.

You guys are really getting a ton of the old white stuff at the moment then?

Me i'm kinda used to it residing in deepest darkest Finland, but i feel for you.  Snow works a pain in the arse, and back.

Oh the Pajandrum was mentioned in great detail, bloody barking mad concept too. 

The real problem is when you getting hit by a couple of inches in a place that on average doesn't get it. Since you are not suppose to prepare for it because on average, you are a warmer climate; it get down right insane. It's not like you can go to Walmart and buy a snowshovel or snowpants in DFW. Plus, the majority of people have no idea how to deal with snow when driving as has been mentioned.

Though it's also kind of fun if you do decide to brave the roads, it's nearly empty out there. Almost like the beauty of Christmas morning when there is no activity at all.
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Post by: Weirdo on 02 February 2011, 16:37:04
I haven't seen snowpants since my visit to Colorado over a decade ago.

I want snowpants. My legs haven't had a warm winter in...over a decade. :-\
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Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 02 February 2011, 16:48:16
Have you considered looking in a store? Many times if you want to obtain a certain product you can exchange currency for it at an appropriate retailer. I recommend some kind of place with "outdoor" in its name.
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Post by: Lord Harlock on 02 February 2011, 17:13:07
Well that's easier said than done. As I mentioned, it's near impossible to find a snowshovel. Snowpants are easy to find, but getting to say Cabelas or most other sports supply stores that are closer in this weather is near impossible. Plus, a lot of the stories and business are still not open since no one is out on the roads.

So why don't we go when the road isn't full of snow and ice? Probably because for the most part in Texas, we are thinking of keeping cool instead of warm. And we all fall for the dumb concept that this will be the end of the bad winter cycle for the next ten years. 
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Post by: Paladin1 on 02 February 2011, 17:15:08
Righty ho managed to find the book i mentioned earlier.

Secret Weapons of World War 2 - Gerald Pawle (foreword by Nevil Shute)

it was published by Ballantyne Books in 1967.  My copy i found in a second hand book store in Jakobstad Finland of all places, well i do live here.  Thankfully it was dirt cheap and asides a certain yellowing of pages, in mint condition. 

I last read it some time ago, but flicking through it seems to primarily focus on Royal Navy experimental weapons.  So it's title is a bit of a misnomer.  But still i recall it being rather entertainingly written, should any of you feel the urge to go seeking your own copy.

I wonder if the NAIS ever had it's own version of a Panjandrum?  I wonder what some of the failed experiments would have looked like.

Anyone got any guesses?
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Post by: Paladin1 on 02 February 2011, 17:18:49
Have you considered looking in a store? Many times if you want to obtain a certain product you can exchange currency for it at an appropriate retailer. I recommend some kind of place with "outdoor" in its name.
You gotta love the nieviety of youth.   ;D

Seriously, snow is almost as scarce in Texas as Nouns are around MDM, and it usually lasts about as long too.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 02 February 2011, 17:26:14
Though that honestly depends, the panhandle always gets hit by snow. It's when there is several inches on the ground in Dallas and Fort Worth that people get nervous. And when it hits Houston, then a lot of Texas just go crazy. Actually watching I-45 in Houston when its snowing is truly an interesting sight.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 02 February 2011, 17:31:50
Oh don't feel so bad, if it doesn't happen often it's not something you dwell too much on.

Though i admit a great sense of shame at how Britain deals with snow.  Or should i say, fails abjectly to prepare for it or manage to continue in any semblance of normality.  It's bloody embarassing.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 02 February 2011, 17:38:32
in Texas

You've pinpointed the problem, step two is wiping it out.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 02 February 2011, 17:45:22
Oh don't feel so bad, if it doesn't happen often it's not something you dwell too much on.

Though i admit a great sense of shame at how Britain deals with snow.  Or should i say, fails abjectly to prepare for it or manage to continue in any semblance of normality.  It's bloody embarassing.


Well, let's figure that a City like Dallas should have about two weeks of anti-ice materials for roads and public sidewalks per year and about probably ten years ago that would be a highly liberal allotment. But lately, you've seen the amount of ice and snow slightly increasing each year with every city in the metroplex a bit worried when it gets time for winter lately.

Honestly with the latitude that Britain is located, you'd expect them to be prepared for the whole season plus some. If they aren't, there is someone in public utilities that should be sacked.

You've pinpointed the problem, step two is wiping it out.

How about no. As soon as faster than light is available, I'll gladly let you destroy the Lone Star State and anything else on Terra as much as you want because I won't care.  But just give it a couple of centuries, and I'm sure that burning hatred in you will go out one way or another.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 02 February 2011, 18:13:02
It feel bad for everyone getting hit with snow higher than here.  Almost bad enough that I'd refrain from complaining about how it ruined the gorgeous weather we were getting here over the weekend and that our temperatures are plummeting again.  Almost.

I want my warm weather dang it!  [tickedoff]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 02 February 2011, 18:43:25
It feel bad for everyone getting hit with snow higher than here.  Almost bad enough that I'd refrain from complaining about how it ruined the gorgeous weather we were getting here over the weekend and that our temperatures are plummeting again.  Almost.

I want my warm weather dang it!  [tickedoff]
We all want your warm weather dang it!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 02 February 2011, 18:58:42
I want snow.  I'm rather bitter than I'm escaping this storm unscathed.  >:(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 02 February 2011, 19:38:57
I want snow.  I'm rather bitter than I'm escaping this storm unscathed.  >:(
Ditto!  This "snowpocalypse" is very underwhelming
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 02 February 2011, 22:02:19
I can get snowpants in Bakersfield.

"Big 5" or "Sports Authority"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 02 February 2011, 22:04:24
We all want your warm weather dang it!

I have it already..... 8)

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 02 February 2011, 22:05:27
Me too. It's a balmy 41.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 02 February 2011, 22:22:24
Criminetly, they've shut the plant down for Thursday as well. And more snow is being forecast for Sunday... This is getting worse and worse. I will be hurting for vacation time if they indeed do force us to allocate it for the shutdown. Also, we will be way behind on a lot of things when things start back. Damn.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 02 February 2011, 22:32:37
I hear ya on the last.  I'm just taking it for granted I'll be working saturday - this week and next.  I wouldn't rule out 10hr days next week also.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 02 February 2011, 22:36:07
It was about the same in the Puget Sound region today.  Mid 40's as a high, and clear.  I'm glad to be on the west coast for that storm system.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 02 February 2011, 22:52:56
Ditto!  This "snowpocalypse" is very underwhelming

I'm glad you think so, I just spent all bloody day shoveling the drive.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 02 February 2011, 22:54:11
Yea, I can't think of anyone that finds 20" underwhelming.

Especially if were talking about snow.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Joskney on 02 February 2011, 23:53:31
Well, 20" isn't an amount to be scoffed about.    And you guys have wet and heavy snow while most of ours out here is powdery and light.  Except in spring, then we will get 36" in a couple days and then the sun will come out and it will be 70F.  Then we will have rivers in the streets.. #P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 02 February 2011, 23:57:54
Yeah, I've had a foot or so of wet and heavy in Minnesota, and two weeks later, it'll be 70, so all the boats will come out.

But it was always before fishing season started, so it was more, the "We're getting out on the water!!" than anything.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 03 February 2011, 00:02:18
This is rather tentative at the moment, but would anyone be interested in a DCMS vs AFFS megamek game tomorrow night, say after 8 CST? I can't promise I'd be around to actually do it, but if I was...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 03 February 2011, 00:23:18
This is rather tentative at the moment, but would anyone be interested in a DCMS vs AFFS megamek game tomorrow night, say after 8 CST? I can't promise I'd be around to actually do it, but if I was...
Well, providing you are, I'd be up for it as rank filler for either side.  Which version of the program do you have?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 03 February 2011, 00:25:41
Snow-wise I'm glad I was at the edge of this storm. I got the bitter cold weather (-6F on the car when I came in ten minutes ago) and this city seems to have run out of copper pipe to repair the more old fashioned plumbing. I've got water now, but I don't know how long that is going to last. Pipes have burst twice since sun up 15 hours ago.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 03 February 2011, 00:32:05
is expecting -11F or lower tonight. Supposedly the wind chill will put it at below -20F. I'm a mite fretful over the potential for bursting pipes myself.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 03 February 2011, 00:33:45
Plumbers have been making a killing the past two days.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 03 February 2011, 00:44:26
This is rather tentative at the moment, but would anyone be interested in a DCMS vs AFFS megamek game tomorrow night, say after 8 CST? I can't promise I'd be around to actually do it, but if I was...
I could make it happen, though the time will be close to some earlier commitments.  Say...8:30 would be better.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 03 February 2011, 01:22:38
Plumbers have been making a killing the past two days.

Well, I have been getting an unusually high number of requests to lay pipe recently.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 03 February 2011, 02:01:46
But that's at the Blue Oyster ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 03 February 2011, 02:53:09
This is rather tentative at the moment, but would anyone be interested in a DCMS vs AFFS megamek game tomorrow night, say after 8 CST? I can't promise I'd be around to actually do it, but if I was...
Mememememememe.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Kojak on 03 February 2011, 03:23:16
This is rather tentative at the moment, but would anyone be interested in a DCMS vs AFFS megamek game tomorrow night, say after 8 CST? I can't promise I'd be around to actually do it, but if I was...

If I weren't already committed to another MegaMek game tomorrow night, I'd volunteer as well.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 03 February 2011, 04:59:48
This is rather tentative at the moment, but would anyone be interested in a DCMS vs AFFS megamek game tomorrow night, say after 8 CST? I can't promise I'd be around to actually do it, but if I was...

I have no idea what time that would be here but it might be during the day for me, in which case I could try to get my MegaMech re-installed and working...

Oh, and with regard to Britain's climate and relative latitude: we have the Gulf Stream and have a far better climate than we should
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 03 February 2011, 07:39:41
I have no idea what time that would be here but it might be during the day for me, in which case I could try to get my MegaMech re-installed and working...

CST is GMT-6. So about 2-2.30 AM GMT.

What's the current version of MM anyway?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 03 February 2011, 07:42:50
CST is GMT-6. So about 2-2.30 AM GMT.

What's the current version of MM anyway?

I'm thinking I won't be joining you then!

I knew it would be late for me but was hoping it might have started to become early the next day!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 03 February 2011, 09:57:41
I tried MM a few years ago, didn't find it particularly user friendly.

One of these days i'll get around to trying it again. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 03 February 2011, 10:00:10
It's pretty good these days.

So I'm thinking I'm probably up for a game tonight after 8.30; I'd like to play as the DCMS. What version of MM should I download?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 03 February 2011, 10:26:05
The latest version is 35.21, available here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/megamek/files/development/snapshot%202011-01-06/

You probably want the file that says "megamek-0.35.21-windows.zip"

And FYI, it has ALL 'Mechs from Operation Klondike or older.  This means everything from TRO 3075 is in there, all the new TRO 3058Uu upgrades are in, but none of the TRO 3060 upgrades yet, and nothing from 3085.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 03 February 2011, 12:10:42
Glad to hear it. 

Well have fun with it those who're playing later.  I have enough confusion with time zones and playing WoW, let alone getting my head around US time zones.  Being as i'm an hour ahead of European standard, or two ahead of the UK.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 03 February 2011, 12:53:42
Oh and i bravely put up a picture in the Piccie thread.  Though i wish i had some better ones, i look terribly scruffy.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 03 February 2011, 13:22:43
The great thing about CBT is that it's almost certain that there is a photo waiting in the wings to make you feel very good about yourself.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 03 February 2011, 13:43:20
I could never figure out how to play MM with other people. I'm not to savvy with that sort of mumbo-jumbo.

Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 03 February 2011, 14:21:56
Ed, I'm not sure, but I might be available. Have to play it by ear.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 03 February 2011, 14:22:37
You know, I loved snow much more as a kid when I could play in it. Now that I have nothing for it but to clear it away, I am not so much a fan. Sure, I had to shovel the drive as a kid, but not by myself...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 03 February 2011, 14:30:30
I could never figure out how to play MM with other people. I'm not to savvy with that sort of mumbo-jumbo.

It's right at the outside limits of my competence.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 03 February 2011, 14:35:25
That's not a bad picture, Rorke. I put up one of my own as a show of solidarity.  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 03 February 2011, 14:37:55
I need to find my old one with fries sticking out of my ears. Or maybe one of my wedding photos, so people can cringe at my pantslessness.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 03 February 2011, 14:39:55
You know, I loved snow much more as a kid when I could play in it. Now that I have nothing for it but to clear it away, I am not so much a fan. Sure, I had to shovel the drive as a kid, but not by myself...
I still love the snow, and even somewhat enjoy shoveling it.  I find it rather invigorating.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 03 February 2011, 16:26:57
Why do I bother?  After all, it's clearly not enough that the Combine has a monopoly on development of Gen 1 IS Omnis, and is the sole producer of most of them, they clearly get the shaft because they don't buid a 2nd Gen omni. ??? ::)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 03 February 2011, 16:33:22
I need to find my old one with fries sticking out of my ears. Or maybe one of my wedding photos, so people can cringe at my pantslessness.
This brings up questions better left unanswered...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 03 February 2011, 16:44:07
That's not a bad picture, Rorke. I put up one of my own as a show of solidarity.  :)

Good man
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 03 February 2011, 16:45:59
Bugger i forgot to post the pic of me smoking a pipe, with me beard shaved off and just a tache.  I look very retired Army Officer.  Scarily so.

Will go make amends.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 03 February 2011, 16:48:05
Ha! You look like you're midway through telling us about that one time, in the Punjab...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 03 February 2011, 16:51:16
haha i do don't i.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 03 February 2011, 16:57:24
haha i do don't i.

Now I'm imagining you sounding more like the lamentably late Nigel Green in Zulu.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 03 February 2011, 17:13:27
MMM hard to actually describe how one sounds.  Though in that pose and with that tache....

go to Youtube and look for Rowley Birkin QC.  He's a character from the flawless BBC comedy show, The Fast Show.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Yuri Hikado on 03 February 2011, 17:33:49
  }:) At a guess, I'd say that now would not be the best time to complain about the AC going out in my car.  #P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 03 February 2011, 18:04:28
Probably not no.

Lucky Git if that's your issue with weather currently  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 03 February 2011, 20:21:07
Ed, I'm not sure, but I might be available. Have to play it by ear.

How do you play MM by ear??  ???

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 03 February 2011, 20:22:40
haha i do don't i.

Actually, you do kind of look like Terry Thomas........ 8)

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Joskney on 03 February 2011, 20:41:40
I need to find my old one with fries sticking out of my ears. Or maybe one of my wedding photos, so people can cringe at my pantslessness.

I have one (or many) of you at Gencon 2004
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 03 February 2011, 21:14:56
You know, I loved snow much more as a kid when I could play in it. Now that I have nothing for it but to clear it away, I am not so much a fan. Sure, I had to shovel the drive as a kid, but not by myself...
You need to find a winter sport Geoff.  I've been doing a bit of snowshoeing with geocaching this year.

It's been cold here, single digits at night, teens in the day for a couple of days.  It got to 30F today so maybe it's done for a while.  I hope so, the feral cat population appears to be dwindling at work.  I've only seen 2 in the last 3 weeks, and no sign of the black one.   :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 03 February 2011, 21:34:55
Well, if anyone still wants to try some megamek, hit me up on AIM; my screenname is ardentspork.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 03 February 2011, 22:03:31
You need to find a winter sport Geoff.  I've been doing a bit of snowshoeing with geocaching this year.

It's been cold here, single digits at night, teens in the day for a couple of days.  It got to 30F today so maybe it's done for a while.  I hope so, the feral cat population appears to be dwindling at work.  I've only seen 2 in the last 3 weeks, and no sign of the black one.   :(

Poor kitties!  :-\  :'(

Sport? How about Speed Shoveling or The Parking Space Clearout? Practical and entertaining!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 03 February 2011, 22:19:17
Eh, the feral cats that live around my apartment complex are just fine.  It's the upside of the mild climate.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 03 February 2011, 22:45:07
Maybe next week Ed? I need to DL the new version and figure out how to play other people.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 04 February 2011, 00:42:24
It's not looking real good for the glorious forces of the Combine.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 04 February 2011, 00:44:53
The noble knights-mechwarrior of the Suns are battering down the Dragon and gaining further mastery of the English language in the process!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 04 February 2011, 00:47:50
What, you guys are fighting against Neko Bijin?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 04 February 2011, 01:05:50
Sadly no. Youngblood and I played against Arkansas Warrior and Fatebringer. The DCMS would have won, but a freak ammo explosion claimed Youngblood's Bombardier as it was pummelling the stuffing out of Fatebringer's Stalker. After that, things fell apart quickly. We managed to kill the Stalker and m-kill a Phoenix Hawk, but lost a Panther, Spider, and Dragon to m-kills, and the Bombardier to ammo explosion.

It was a six-on-six, 6000 BV game, which turned out to be a little low, I think.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 04 February 2011, 01:24:06
6000 BV made for a lot of lighter, faster stuff.  I thought the game was a lot of fun, lots of circling and backshots.  Like an air battle between WWII warplanes? :(

EDIT: I'd be up for more, if we want to start making these impromptu games a habit or something.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 04 February 2011, 01:39:38
What, you guys are fighting against Neko Bijin?

Where is he anyway? I haven't seen him post anything since the forums went down.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 04 February 2011, 01:53:25
I'm assuming one of the new names in this thread is LiaoFan.

If Kurita players wanna whine about omni favoritism, let's see who gets to be the frontrunners of the next generation of Omni-Eqiupment.  From the looks of what's around in 3130, I'm thinking Rasalhague and the OA are the big winners (unless they no longer count being as they are now 'Clan Factions.'  So the question is: who else is producing new/Clan omnis post-Jihad?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 04 February 2011, 04:01:08
I'm assuming one of the new names in this thread is LiaoFan.
If you mean me, then I must say it's a case of mistaken identity.  Apologies for the confusion, or disappointment, or however else you'd prefer to react.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 04 February 2011, 04:33:17
No apologies needed.

I'm doing some work on my fantasy RPG setting.  Setting borrows elements of real world history.  There is a Europe analogue which I depict as being culturally similar to the 17th or 18th century.  Descriptions of military uniforms has come up, so I'm trying to fill in some details.  Can someone suggest a good website for images of French, Spanish, Prussian (and other German) uniforms from that era.  Wikipedia is great if I were only interested in the British.  Based on Wiki however, the French didn't start wearing uniforms until the mid-20th century.  ;D
(I could always use this as an excuse to rewatch all the Hornblower movies - but while that gives me Army and Navy uniforms for Spain and France (Royalist and Republican) - there weren't any notable Germans.)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 04 February 2011, 07:41:13
Where is he anyway? I haven't seen him post anything since the forums went down.

He has a hotmail account, and decided not to come back.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 04 February 2011, 09:33:56
6000 BV made for a lot of lighter, faster stuff.  I thought the game was a lot of fun, lots of circling and backshots.  Like an air battle between WWII warplanes? :(

EDIT: I'd be up for more, if we want to start making these impromptu games a habit or something.

Oh, I liked the predominance of lighter 'mechs, don't get me wrong, but I think the BV precluded us being able to field a fair number of the newer lights. Although I can't believe I didn't take a Kabuto.

Let it be said, however, that low BV works in the Dragon's favor.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 04 February 2011, 10:09:41
What was the full lineup on either side?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 04 February 2011, 10:15:28
What was the full lineup on either side?

I had a DRG-5K Grand Dragon, JR7-K Jenner, and PNT-9R Panther. Youngblood had that crazy MML Bombardier, the ER Large Laser Spider, and an Owens E.

The AFFS had an STK-5S Stalker, CN9-D Centurion, a Venom, a PXH-1D Phoenix Hawk, and two Fire Javelins.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 04 February 2011, 10:18:37
He has a hotmail account, and decided not to come back.

 :( That's a shame.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 04 February 2011, 10:19:16
:( That's a shame.

Agreed. He is a great man.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 04 February 2011, 10:26:22
Neko has sailed from these fair shores not to return, a sad thing to hear indeed.

And yes with a moustache i do look uncannily like Terry Thomas at the correct angle.  God i really need to find some Ealing comedies on DvD, especially "I'm alright Jack" and "School for Scoundrels".
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 04 February 2011, 10:33:55
Youngblood had that crazy MML Bombardier,
Oh geez, no wonder it blew.  That thing is asking for an ammo crit.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: God and Davion on 04 February 2011, 10:53:18
He has a hotmail account, and decided not to come back.

 :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 04 February 2011, 11:48:46
Oh geez, no wonder it blew.  That thing is asking for an ammo crit.
I still like it a lot though.  It was a great choice for getting in the Stalker's face and knocking it down.  Only costs 1,249 BV, as well.  Now if only it had TSM....
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 04 February 2011, 12:00:09
I still like it a lot though.  It was a great choice for getting in the Stalker's face and knocking it down.  Only costs 1,249 BV, as well.  Now if only it had TSM....

Up until it blew up, the Bombardier was definitely our MVP.

In retrospect, I handled my 'mechs very poorly, and paid for it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 04 February 2011, 12:20:27
Well losing is how we learn eh.

Least it was always that way for me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 04 February 2011, 14:46:20
:( That's a shame.
It is indeed.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Chunga on 04 February 2011, 14:52:46
He has a hotmail account, and decided not to come back.

:(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 04 February 2011, 15:43:13
He has a hotmail account, and decided not to come back.
That's a shame. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 04 February 2011, 16:02:20
No apologies needed.

I'm doing some work on my fantasy RPG setting.  Setting borrows elements of real world history.  There is a Europe analogue which I depict as being culturally similar to the 17th or 18th century.  Descriptions of military uniforms has come up, so I'm trying to fill in some details.  Can someone suggest a good website for images of French, Spanish, Prussian (and other German) uniforms from that era.  Wikipedia is great if I were only interested in the British.  Based on Wiki however, the French didn't start wearing uniforms until the mid-20th century.  ;D
(I could always use this as an excuse to rewatch all the Hornblower movies - but while that gives me Army and Navy uniforms for Spain and France (Royalist and Republican) - there weren't any notable Germans.)

I just found this website that may help out in this

http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 04 February 2011, 16:33:53
Up until it blew up, the Bombardier was definitely our MVP.

In retrospect, I handled my 'mechs very poorly, and paid for it.
Sure, we probably could have used a little more focus in coordination, but it was a fun pick-up game regardless.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Kojak on 04 February 2011, 16:36:49
He has a hotmail account, and decided not to come back.

He's left for now, but I'll bet he'll come back eventually. I mean, we're just too damn awesome to leave behind forever.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 04 February 2011, 17:13:45
You know, the mild winters of the past couple years were, I thought, making up for the horrendous ice storm of three winters past when I went without power for a week. But no, apparently, mother nature, that damnable tease, was just saving up for this winter. It's already snowing again, supposed to continue overnight, plus make a return Sunday and Tuesday. Oy.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 04 February 2011, 23:25:51
Meanwhile I'm still just getting rain. :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 05 February 2011, 00:18:07
He has a hotmail account, and decided not to come back.
No offense to Neko, but that seems a poor excuse to not return. Others were in the same boat and simply got yahoo or gmail accounts. Perhaps he needed a break or was getting bored.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 05 February 2011, 00:37:21
Interestingly enough, he did register.  Or else someone registered in his name.  Look at the memberlist.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 05 February 2011, 02:04:27
I just found this website that may help out in this

http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/
Looks like it may be pretty useful.  Thanks!  O0

Interestingly enough, he did register.  Or else someone registered in his name.  Look at the memberlist.
I think 3CL was responding to my inquery about LF, not Neko.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 05 February 2011, 06:04:59
Well perhaps he'll be back in time.  My primary email account is a hotmail one too, i just happen to own a few spare email accounts for those times...like these.

Any time i've disappeared for a while, i always end up being pulled back.  Reckon with a lot of the old timers, it's similar.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 February 2011, 07:54:00
Well perhaps he'll be back in time.  My primary email account is a hotmail one too, i just happen to own a few spare email accounts for those times...like these.

Any time i've disappeared for a while, i always end up being pulled back.  Reckon with a lot of the old timers, it's similar.
I hope that LiaoFan and Neko return as I do with a few other folks not yet online.  Particularly troubling is Sawbones who I believe has been a force in fan sponsored minis and a connecting file to IWM.  Although I can certainly understand viewing the forum hacking as key indicator towards someone's interest culminating.  Particularly in light antics going on the northern end of the old boards.  Anyway, I hope those folks come back:  good people.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 05 February 2011, 10:29:52
Well the northern end of things had become a touch vicious lately.  I cannot understand why people insist on being such arseholes to one another sometimes.  There's just no point in being a smart arse to folk, when ultimately that childish behaviour won't win any argument. 

But people, they're strange.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 05 February 2011, 10:36:06
I've been up north, but I tend to get out of threads that turn nasty.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 February 2011, 11:06:42
Well the northern end of things had become a touch vicious lately.  I cannot understand why people insist on being such arseholes to one another sometimes.  There's just no point in being a smart arse to folk, when ultimately that childish behaviour won't win any argument. 

But people, they're strange.
I saw that G&D locked a thread and it was the first that I'd noticed.  I've not encountered arseholery yet.  I was tempted to chime in on one thread because I couldn't tell if the author of a product was writing as if they faction was meant to be poorly informed or if he was.  No matter how I my drafted post I couldn't work my tone to sound interested and informative without seeming to lecture which unless I do it in person I tend towards my own special brand of arsiness.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 05 February 2011, 14:16:38
Has anyone watched that show Gold Rush on Discovery? If so, am I alone in hoping that those guys all lose their shirts? They're all complete jackasses. I so want them to go down into ruin, you know, 'cause that's the kind of jackass I am.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 05 February 2011, 14:27:05
Has anyone watched that show Gold Rush on Discovery? If so, am I alone in hoping that those guys all lose their shirts? They're all complete jackasses. I so want them to go down into ruin, you know, 'cause that's the kind of jackass I am.

Geoff, I love you.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 05 February 2011, 14:36:15
Yea, those guys are friggin' morons.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 05 February 2011, 15:16:41
Has anyone watched that show Gold Rush on Discovery? If so, am I alone in hoping that those guys all lose their shirts? They're all complete jackasses. I so want them to go down into ruin, you know, 'cause that's the kind of jackass I am.
Hmm...I want to watch this now...I need some fresh blood for my MST3K experiments...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 05 February 2011, 15:23:13
Well i should have perhaps said "pre Crash".  Lately it's been ok, just too little of any real substance.  I hate the SS part turning into some odd mirror image of this thread though.  Sorry if that irks any of you, but this is the place for such factional hangouts...not there.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 February 2011, 15:40:31
Well i should have perhaps said "pre Crash".  Lately it's been ok, just too little of any real substance.  I hate the SS part turning into some odd mirror image of this thread though.  Sorry if that irks any of you, but this is the place for such factional hangouts...not there.
Do mean likes of the AFFS High Command thread that BlackAce started?  While I can appreciate that perspective I'm finding it a better alternative to the four-thread-wide-quote-fest dealing with TRO:3085 and made up curses on the old boards.  Besides, I think of this as pleasant non-Battletech debate area.

S/F

Matt 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 05 February 2011, 15:55:20
Well i should have perhaps said "pre Crash".  Lately it's been ok, just too little of any real substance.  I hate the SS part turning into some odd mirror image of this thread though.  Sorry if that irks any of you, but this is the place for such factional hangouts...not there.

I respect that, though I try to keep shop talk out of the mess.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 05 February 2011, 17:21:02
Err, that makes it rather like a wardroom then?

As long as I don't have to wait to get my main course while somebody has to have salad, and then soup. . . .

I was talking with my mildly disgruntled LDO Division Officer this morning.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 February 2011, 17:32:07
Err, that makes it rather like a wardroom then?

As long as I don't have to wait to get my main course while somebody has to have salad, and then soup. . . .

I was talking with my mildly disgruntled LDO Division Officer this morning.
Ah the Wardroom, let me count the ways.  That place has some strange social interaction although I've to say the only place I've waited by course was at a Dining In or in the Flag Mess.  By and large, Marines hate having anyone bring us our food; we can do the buffet line ourselves.  On the other hand, letting the messmen/food service attendents do their job acknowledged always by please and thank you tended to make us rather well fed.  I'm still not sure why I need to pay for my food when it is the same as the crew/embark troop mess but oh well.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 05 February 2011, 17:44:30
Paying for the Food must be one of those Tradition things for officers once being able to support themselves off of something other than gunmint money.

I think the submarine runs it just to make them different from the Hoi Palloi that lives between the tubes.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 05 February 2011, 17:59:32
There was a big stink when my BN got a mess section.  Not that the officers objected to having to pay, but they objected to the CO telling them they would pay to eat at the BN chow hall.  Previously they'd gone to whatever local place of business they cared to, and there was much resentment being forced to pay for an inferior quality and selection for reasons of unit morale (officers eating with their troops and all that).
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 05 February 2011, 18:10:16
Well We could consider our selves like a Cheifs and POs Mess with the best of both worlds thing.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 February 2011, 18:31:35
There was a big stink when my BN got a mess section.  Not that the officers objected to having to pay, but they objected to the CO telling them they would pay to eat at the BN chow hall.  Previously they'd gone to whatever local place of business they cared to, and there was much resentment being forced to pay for an inferior quality and selection for reasons of unit morale (officers eating with their troops and all that).
We're encouraging everyone to eat at ours so we can keep it.  Food going to waste is a waste of money after all.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 05 February 2011, 19:37:23
We're encouraging everyone to eat at ours so we can keep it.  Food going to waste is a waste of money after all.

S/F

Matt

But if it is a substance pretending to be food....

Craig
(Is it trus the eggs in the mess hall are so rubbery, they can be used to patch tires??)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 February 2011, 20:48:05
But if it is a substance pretending to be food....

Craig
(Is it trus the eggs in the mess hall are so rubbery, they can be used to patch tires??)
Actually, I had two pretty good breakfasts in the field earlier this week.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 05 February 2011, 22:24:09
But if it is a substance pretending to be food....

Craig
(Is it trus the eggs in the mess hall are so rubbery, they can be used to patch tires??)
It depends on the cook.

The senior ones have more experience.  And getting eggs to order guarantees better quality.

Most of the time.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 06 February 2011, 00:30:00
Geoff, I love you.

A common affliction, I assure you. :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 06 February 2011, 01:02:55
A common affliction, I assure you. :)

Dr. Geoff Swift, PhD: Love by millions, feared by Capellans.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 06 February 2011, 01:20:16
Huzzah!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Miatezhnyi8D on 06 February 2011, 01:33:19
Things seemed to have changed in my absence, but it good to see the High Command still around. :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 06 February 2011, 02:35:26
Yep.  And, as per tradition, one of the largest threads on the board.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 06 February 2011, 03:01:48
Yep.  And, as per tradition, one of the largest threads on the board.
A circular arguement is unending. :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 06 February 2011, 05:22:54
Ahhhh morning, well afternoon even.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 08:55:44
Dr. Geoff Swift, PhD: Love by millions, feared by Capellans.

 [stupid] [notworthy]

Ahhhh morning, well afternoon even.

I'm not sure whether or not I should be having cake (wife's birthday cake) before lunch  ???

Ah the Wardroom, let me count the ways.  That place has some strange social interaction although I've to say the only place I've waited by course was at a Dining In or in the Flag Mess.  By and large, Marines hate having anyone bring us our food; we can do the buffet line ourselves.  On the other hand, letting the messmen/food service attendents do their job acknowledged always by please and thank you tended to make us rather well fed.  I'm still not sure why I need to pay for my food when it is the same as the crew/embark troop mess but oh well.

S/F

Matt

We have a Doctors' Mess in every hospital and the social life can be rather good although they are increasingly pants with worn out sofas and scarecely any food and sometimes no tea or coffee even!  :o

Anyway, I am still quietly tickled to have penetrated (driven through) Chobham today (the village in Surrey rather than the armour but none the less...)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 09:06:55
I'm not sure whether or not I should be having cake (wife's birthday cake) before lunch  ???
And a Happy Birthday to her.
Anyway, I am still quietly tickled to have penetrated (driven through) Chobham today (the village in Surrey rather than the armour but none the less...)
Nice reference pull.  My boss and I were chuckling over the use of FDO for Force Deployment Officer at the MEF and Fire Direction Officer in the artillery.  When appointed as MEF FDO he shouted, "MEF, Two Rounds!"  I suspect outside of my regiment few find that funny; it confused the grunts which is generally worth the price of admission.  I've periodically chuckled over it this weekend.

Rorke - Good mid-morning/late afternoon to you.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 09:13:13
And a Happy Birthday to her.Nice reference pull.  My boss and I were chuckling over the use of FDO for Force Deployment Officer at the MEF and Fire Direction Officer in the artillery.  When appointed as MEF FDO he shouted, "MEF, Two Rounds!"  I suspect outside of my regiment few find that funny; it confused the grunts which is generally worth the price of admission.  I've periodically chuckled over it this weekend.

Rorke - Good mid-morning/late afternoon to you.

S/F

Matt

She says thank you - it was on Friday but our lie-in was interrupted by next door having their concrete drive way dug up from 8am  :(

The "MEF, Two Rounds!" would be better if uttered from the "command post" established in the Mess Bar  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 09:24:10
She says thank you - it was on Friday but our lie-in was interrupted by next door having their concrete drive way dug up from 8am  :(
The "MEF, Two Rounds!" would be better if uttered from the "command post" established in the Mess Bar  ;)
Better late than never on the birthday celebration.  Trying to drag people to the O'Club Bar is like pulling teeth.  Too much risk to drink and drive/loose one's commission; we've made such a hash out of that collectively.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 09:25:57
Better late than never on the birthday celebration.  Trying to drag people to the O'Club Bar is like pulling teeth.  Too much risk to drink and drive/loose one's commission; we've made such a hash out of that collectively.

S/F

Matt

We have the same problem with drink driving but certainly where I am at the moment everyone commutes by public transport... and we do have 2 local pubs that people are rather fond of (The Phoenix and The Sun & Doves). I'm probably going to one on Wednesday  [drool]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 09:35:16
We have the same problem with drink driving but certainly where I am at the moment everyone commutes by public transport... and we do have 2 local pubs that people are rather fond of (The Phoenix and The Sun & Doves). I'm probably going to one on Wednesday  [drool]
And thus is the reason why I keep my wine cabinets rather well stocked.  Beer, although cheaper, is often far too fattening particularly when the weather makes running a miserable proposition.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 09:47:23
And thus is the reason why I keep my wine cabinets rather well stocked.  Beer, although cheaper, is often far too fattening particularly when the weather makes running a miserable proposition.

S/F

Matt

That is why I just bought a combination exercise bike/cross trainer for the house and am trying to walk at least part of the way to work but I really prefer beer (ale mostly) to wine
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 09:56:01
That is why I just bought a combination exercise bike/cross trainer for the house and am trying to walk at least part of the way to work but I really prefer beer (ale mostly) to wine
We were thinking about that but we're going from a single family home in NC to a condo with fitness center in Virginia in June.  I just can't get the same effect from an eliptical that I can from running 20 to 30 miles a week; I'm tearing my knees apart doing it but that's what partial disability during retirement is for right?  Besides, it gets me out of the office for a couple of hours.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 09:59:06
We were thinking about that but we're going from a single family home in NC to a condo with fitness center in Virginia in June.  I just can't get the same effect from an eliptical that I can from running 20 to 30 miles a week; I'm tearing my knees apart doing it but that's what partial disability during retirement is for right?  Besides, it gets me out of the office for a couple of hours.

S/F

Matt

I hate running with a passion
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 06 February 2011, 10:17:15
Ugh running. 

Don't get me wrong, i can walk for miles with not a bother.  But running, well it's not for me unless it's for a bus or train.  Though i was quite good at catching shoplifters back in the day.  Little junkie scum can't compete with a 6ft odd tall bloke who spends all day walking around a store.   But goodness how happy were we when we finally rated a security guard of our own  ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 10:47:15
I hate running with a passion
In general so do I.  However, some of my most relaxing time deployed in '09 was doing 7 to 10 milers around Al Asad; that and sitting in my can re-reading the Wheel of Time on Sunday mornings.  I still hate running though.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 10:51:32
I once spent a month when I should have been revising getting to the point where I could run for a decent distance and then started to enjoy it... but then the exam happened and normal life resumed and I lost the "spark". It was also running on a machine rather than on a road which I understand is easier

We have our cross-trainer/running machine in the living room so we can use it while watching TV
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 10:59:41
I once spent a month when I should have been revising getting to the point where I could run for a decent distance and then started to enjoy it... but then the exam happened and normal life resumed and I lost the "spark". It was also running on a machine rather than on a road which I understand is easier
I've never been able to get the hang of treadmills.  StairMaster and elliptical I'm good with but I find the treadmills to be the worst kind of torture.  I always feel like those numbers are lying to me.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 06 February 2011, 11:55:16
Hehe oddly enough i've assembled about 5-6 of those lately at my work experience.

I'm learning swedish due to living here, and one of the brilliant ideas they have here is to make students, unemployed folks, immigrants and so on....do work experience.  Which regrettably is not as beneficial to them, as it is to the employer.

Thankfully i lucked out and got a nice buncha folks in a sports store, i hate sports but they're nice guys so it's all good.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 12:37:58
Hehe oddly enough i've assembled about 5-6 of those lately at my work experience.

I'm learning swedish due to living here, and one of the brilliant ideas they have here is to make students, unemployed folks, immigrants and so on....do work experience.  Which regrettably is not as beneficial to them, as it is to the employer.

Thankfully i lucked out and got a nice buncha folks in a sports store, i hate sports but they're nice guys so it's all good.
Congrates on your forum promotion!  For some reason I think the forums are a bit wonky in function.  Your previous post didn't show up when I was replying to Dan.  Also, I can only write for so long before the window won't show what I'm typing but I can still type.  Odd.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 06 February 2011, 13:48:07
Ugh running. 

Don't get me wrong, i can walk for miles with not a bother.  But running, well it's not for me unless it's for a bus or train.
Ditto!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 06 February 2011, 14:43:26
Man, I feel left out.  Running was the only kind of PT I ever enjoyed.  My favorite is when it's cold.  Running in the heat is fun suck, runing when it's cold is awesome.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 15:04:04
Man, I feel left out.  Running was the only kind of PT I ever enjoyed.  My favorite is when it's cold.  Running in the heat is fun suck, runing when it's cold is awesome.
You know if I can get up into the seven plus mile range I find it theraputic but otherwise it is just torture getting there.

So, what are everyone's Super Bowl plans?  That is of course if you are even paying attention to the event.  I just watched the Capitals whoop up on the Penguins and am now being subjected to two hours of Puppy Bowl.  Oh how fortune changes.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 06 February 2011, 15:08:32
OOh cheers for the grats, didn't notice the promotion.  Going to be bleeding forever until i'm back in Officer Country though. 

As for the Superbowl, despite my distaste for sport normally...i always kinda liked American Football.  We used to have it on TV when i was a teenager, personally i was a big Bears fan back then.  But that was a hell of a long time ago now, and i've not owned a TV for 6-7 years so i'm out of that loop.  But i hope you gentlemen enjoy it. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 06 February 2011, 15:13:13
Advice from an old acquaintance late of the army was "Pace yourself. Save the running for when the shooting starts." I'd like to say I live by those words, but unless it's a wild animal (bigger than a catamount or so) or a possessed car chasing me, I'm not running.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 06 February 2011, 15:13:54
Ditto!

Y'know, during my airforce days I found I stayed fitter, doing a long 40 minute walk every evening and playing football (soccer) for a hour once or twice a week than running a two-miler for fitness every day.  My BFT times were better by about 30 seconds on average. I didn't feel quite as burnt out afterwards, either.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 15:31:41
OOh cheers for the grats, didn't notice the promotion.  Going to be bleeding forever until i'm back in Officer Country though. 
My goal was to be posting at what is likely to be my retirement rank: LtCol.  It took me six years to get to Lt last time.  Now I am wondering why that was a goal.  I'm stupid.
Advice from an old acquaintance late of the army was "Pace yourself. Save the running for when the shooting starts." I'd like to say I live by those words, but unless it's a wild animal (bigger than a catamount or so) or a possessed car chasing me, I'm not running.

Unfortunately, as I get older I need more practice at running to be able to do it when I need it.  We've recently gone to a Combat Fitness Test:  1.5 mile run in boots, a 30lb ammo can lift, and a 300 meter run, crawl, fireman carry, 60lb ammo can carry, drag, and something else stupid/painful that escapes me.  It was a shock to say the least but likely easier overall than the PFT:  3.0 miles, pull-ups, and crunches.  Still, having not practiced before hand it isn't the way I'd like to spend the day particularly when we add 40lbs of body armor.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 06 February 2011, 16:27:45
Well, I'm rather glad they haven't announced anything like that for the Navy.

I'm amazed at some of the fat boys that manage to smuggle themselves through weight standards.

Well, I'm going out in the world, because I really don't care about American football.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 16:32:24
Well, I'm rather glad they haven't announced anything like that for the Navy.

I'm amazed at some of the fat boys that manage to smuggle themselves through weight standards.

Well, I'm going out in the world, because I really don't care about American football.

I too don't really care about any sport other than cricket, rugby (Union) and rowing... plus I suspect the Superbowl is on at stupid-o'clock in the morning

And I am supposed to be on a fitness and weight loss programme (aiming to get fit for 30) which I am sure 2 weeks of eating out and tonight's deep pan pizza aren't helping with  :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 16:34:01
Well, I'm rather glad they haven't announced anything like that for the Navy.

I'm amazed at some of the fat boys that manage to smuggle themselves through weight standards.

Well, I'm going out in the world, because I really don't care about American football.
Well yours is the more senior and presumably wiser service.

It is because no one enforces the standards.

Good luck out there!

I too don't really care about any sport other than cricket, rugby (Union) and rowing... plus I suspect the Superbowl is on at stupid-o'clock in the morning

And I am supposed to be on a fitness and weight loss programme (aiming to get fit for 30) which I am sure 2 weeks of eating out and tonight's deep pan pizza aren't helping with  :(
Pan pizza and ale are heavy; you're doing fine!

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 16:38:04
Well yours is the more senior and presumably wiser service.

It is because no one enforces the standards.

Good luck out there!
Pan pizza and ale are heavy; you're doing fine!

S/F

Matt

I thought the USMC was older than the USN? Certainly the RN is our senior service but... (I'm sure a quick look at Wikipedia would answer this question)

Hmmm, I knew I was missing something this evening, as I watch True Blood etc: ale  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 06 February 2011, 16:43:28
I actually really like running; I normally run four miles in thirty minutes four times a week, and when I ran the Turkey Trot 5 mile outdoor run in November, I averaged about 6:54 per mile and finished in the top 150 out of 5600 runners. I long ago realized that being a smartass might require a few expeditious retreats.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 16:46:17
I actually really like running; I normally run four miles in thirty minutes four times a week, and when I ran the Turkey Trot 5 mile outdoor run in November, I averaged about 6:54 per mile and finished in the top 150 out of 5600 runners. I long ago realized that being a smartass might require a few expeditious retreats.

We all know you are a weirdo  :P

I, on the other hand, am remedying my ale-deficiency via Greene King's Abbot Ale  [drool]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 06 February 2011, 16:46:50
I thought the USMC was older than the USN? Certainly the RN is our senior service but... (I'm sure a quick look at Wikipedia would answer this question)

Hmmm, I knew I was missing something this evening, as I watch True Blood etc: ale  :)
Nope, the Continental Navy was founded about a month before the Continental Marines.  Which is kinda what I expected, since the Marines fall under the Navy in DoD organization, Marine officers go to the Naval Academy or NROTC, etc, not the other way around.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 16:53:55
I thought the USMC was older than the USN? Certainly the RN is our senior service but... (I'm sure a quick look at Wikipedia would answer this question)
Oct 13 vs. 10 Nov 1775.  They are older although there is the question as to what that date actually means.  And you can find folks wanting to push that date earlier.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 16:57:31
Seriously, what is up with the skipped posts during replies; I get some warnings but not others.
I, on the other hand, am remedying my ale-deficiency via Greene King's Abbot Ale  [drool]
Good job my friend; have a goal and achieve it.
Nope, the Continental Navy was founded about a month before the Continental Marines.  Which is kinda what I expected, since the Marines fall under the Navy in DoD organization, Marine officers go to the Naval Academy or NROTC, etc, not the other way around.
Au contraire, we fall under the Department of the Navy but not the US Navy.  The US Navy provides us many services that you menitoned and others.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 06 February 2011, 17:03:01
Seriously, what is up with the skipped posts during replies; I get some warnings but not others.Good job my friend; have a goal and achieve it.Au contraire, we fall under the Department of the Navy but not the US Navy.  The US Navy provides us many services that you menitoned and others.

S/F

Matt

I managed to lose a post commenting that Marines are kept from fielding a full force fairly universally, to keep them from being too awesome  [rockon]

And the beer/ale is nom  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 17:12:28
And the beer/ale is nom  :)
Well so long as that is still working.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 06 February 2011, 17:42:44
Au contraire, we fall under the Department of the Navy but not the US Navy.  The US Navy provides us many services that you menitoned and others.

S/F

Matt
A marine would say that.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 February 2011, 17:47:00
A marine would say that.  ;)
No, a Marine (emphasis on the 'M') would say that.  Make sure you make us a ridiculous as we are otherwise we get confused.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 06 February 2011, 22:37:07
Anyone want to try for a DCMS vs AFFS megamek game Wednesday night around 8ish CST?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 06 February 2011, 22:40:57
Count me in. Unless it snows again. What era are we fighting in?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 06 February 2011, 22:44:12
Count me in. Unless it snows again. What era are we fighting in?

3075ish? I should forewarn interested parties that I'm behind a restrictive firewall and can't host. I'm a lousy date, I know. Also, just spitballin' here, but AIM or skype will probably be very helpful if it ends up being a team game again.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 06 February 2011, 23:20:14
I'm available for it.  It's another pretty late start, were we thinking a larger BV cap this time?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 06 February 2011, 23:27:44
I'm available for it.  It's another pretty late start, were we thinking a larger BV cap this time?

Six grand made for some cramping with only six 'mechs, I think we could probably do 8k for 6 'mechs and still be okay.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 06 February 2011, 23:31:54
I won't be around until after 9 CT on a wednesday.  Other than that I'd be up for it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 06 February 2011, 23:45:00
Six grand made for some cramping with only six 'mechs, I think we could probably do 8k for 6 'mechs and still be okay.
I'm cool with that--I just thought we were already pushing the time limit with our barely-armored light 'Mechs.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 06 February 2011, 23:47:24
Chunga should be happy for the next few days. Congrats on your team, chief.  :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Force of Nature on 07 February 2011, 00:58:02
My team also 97jedi.

Force
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Shirotora on 07 February 2011, 02:22:14
I thought the USMC was older than the USN? Certainly the RN is our senior service but... (I'm sure a quick look at Wikipedia would answer this question)

Hmmm, I knew I was missing something this evening, as I watch True Blood etc: ale  :)
The USMC is the senior service. They had to wait awhile for their taxi service to get onboard. ;)

EDIT: I was told by any number of Marines that they were the oldest service. I doubt a Marine would lie to a Grunt about something like that.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 07 February 2011, 07:28:38
All this talk of Marines makes me think of Generation Kill.  Hell of a show, no idea how true to life it was but it was entertaining.  Really wanted those guys to make it through in one piece, even if it was mostly fiction.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 07 February 2011, 12:05:57
Goodness it's slipping down the page and you lot....you lot are sleeping or eating or working or something.

A patriotic bump then
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 07 February 2011, 12:09:32
Man, it seems hardly fair to complain about my job when so many Americans are out of work, but christ jesus does it ever suck to work here.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 07 February 2011, 12:10:57
So nice to be able to work from home.  I'm awaiting a UPS delivery today.

Say, did anyone manage to save that Davion's Burden poem before the old forums got nuked?  I found that quite amusing and it would be a shame to have lost it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 07 February 2011, 12:12:58
Well it could be worse, you could see a 25% reduction in your hours like I got this week. It's likely tostay this until April or someone quits. I'd quit but jobs are hard to find locally. I was going to use my tax refund to get my puppies their shot, now I have to use to keep food in our bellies and a roof over our heads.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Chunga on 07 February 2011, 12:33:29
Chunga should be happy for the next few days. Congrats on your team, chief.  :)


;D

It's kinda hard to stop smiling today.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 07 February 2011, 12:37:39
Anyone know what the job market is like in the Twin Cities, by the way? Looks like I'll be heading that way next year.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 07 February 2011, 13:12:48
My sister goes to school over there.  Macalester College, if you're familiar with the local college scene.  Other than that, I know little if anything about the area.  Except that it's too cold for me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 07 February 2011, 16:24:56
Is it just me or were the commercials pretty lame this year?  I only liked 2, the Doritos with the pug and the VW bug.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 07 February 2011, 16:45:12
I was away from work for 2 weeks... and everyone has swapped over and I am about the only person left from "the old crowd": it's weird!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 07 February 2011, 17:28:09
Oh man that's horrible when that happens, happened to me once or twice.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 07 February 2011, 17:31:40
Oh man that's horrible when that happens, happened to me once or twice.

The Bosses and nurses are all still there (and so are some of the patients) but it is weird. I also missed them all starting so to them I'm the "new" one  :-\
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 07 February 2011, 18:46:57
I still think shift work is some sort of clandestine psychological experiment.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 07 February 2011, 19:26:40
All this talk of Marines makes me think of Generation Kill.  Hell of a show, no idea how true to life it was but it was entertaining.  Really wanted those guys to make it through in one piece, even if it was mostly fiction.
We were talking about it in the office in comparison to a fortunately less well known book.  Generation Kill is likely very accurate as to what happened in that particular HMMWV and then less accurate as you move further away from it.  In comparing what the series said about the Battle of Nasiriyah and my recollections of the event I came away thinking we were at different battles.
It's kinda hard to stop smiling today.
Good for you; don't make my mistake and fail to savor it.  I nearly missed the last time the 'Skins were in Super Bowl because I was used to them winning a lot in the late 80s.
The Bosses and nurses are all still there (and so are some of the patients) but it is weird. I also missed them all starting so to them I'm the "new" one  :-\
Bummer, my friend.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 07 February 2011, 20:13:24
Spoke to Neko over the weekend. He didn't seem to have any urgency to return to the boards. He did seem to appreciate the concern you folks had, though.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 07 February 2011, 20:14:58
Spoke to Neko over the weekend. He didn't seem to have any urgency to return to the boards. He did seem to appreciate the concern you folks had, though.

I spoke to him as well, although the conversation was truncated as I was with Melanie at the time. He seemed in high spirits.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 07 February 2011, 20:33:23
I was away from work for 2 weeks... and everyone has swapped over and I am about the only person left from "the old crowd": it's weird!

Pod people....

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 07 February 2011, 21:23:29
Anyone know what the job market is like in the Twin Cities, by the way? Looks like I'll be heading that way next year.
I'll raise some feelers back home.  If you're looking to try and weasel in as an academic, there's quite a few colleges and universities in the area, or with in a relatively short drive.

Oh, and a car is almost mandatory outside of the inner ring suburbs.  Public transit isn't that big.  On the other had, congestion is nowhere near as bad as Chicagoland.

My sister goes to school over there.  Macalester College, if you're familiar with the local college scene.  Other than that, I know little if anything about the area.  Except that it's too cold for me.
THE Hippie school in that area.  And the cold just keeps the bums out.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 07 February 2011, 21:44:04
I'll raise some feelers back home.  If you're looking to try and weasel in as an academic, there's quite a few colleges and universities in the area, or with in a relatively short drive.

I have no academic qualifications and could not get work in the educational field.

Sucks to hear about public transit, I lean heavily on it here, and money will probably be tight before having to pay for gas.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 07 February 2011, 22:27:37
Spoke to Neko over the weekend. He didn't seem to have any urgency to return to the boards. He did seem to appreciate the concern you folks had, though.

I spoke to him as well, although the conversation was truncated as I was with Melanie at the time. He seemed in high spirits.

It's good to hear that.  You know I can understand a bit how he feels.  I just don't have the oomph for the boards that I used to have.  I have a feeling I will be that last one around here to make SGT, let alone LT. 

On a slightly different tangent, I spent most of the weekend tinkering around with Google's Sketchup 3d modeling program.  Some of the results are up on the fan art board, if I may be allowed to toot my own horn around here.  I think that's where a lot of my hobby energy is going to be spent for a while.  We need some more stuff that's not a 'Mech or a WarShip.  Are there any visuals of a mobile field base apparatus beyond what was in the 'Mech Commander game?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 07 February 2011, 22:57:57
You know, guys, it's never too early to ask (especially since Edward already mentioned it before the boards crashed), but who is going to GenCon? I have my badge and I believe Edward does as well. I expect to be sharing a room with the CSO guys again (though I believe they are planning on getting at least one other room since more will be going this year than last), not sure about Edward's room.

So? Who's in?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 07 February 2011, 23:18:21
You know, guys, it's never too early to ask (especially since Edward already mentioned it before the boards crashed), but who is going to GenCon? I have my badge and I believe Edward does as well. I expect to be sharing a room with the CSO guys again (though I believe they are planning on getting at least one other room since more will be going this year than last), not sure about Edward's room.

So? Who's in?

I'm going, as is my brother, and last I heard, DFB was staying with us.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 08 February 2011, 01:01:17
Definitely a no-go for me.  Work looks to be heavy this whole year, with bringing systems back online after they've been hibernating for a while.

My chances of meeting anyone other than Ed seem to be, well, about those of the Cubs going to the World Series- There's always next year.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 08 February 2011, 01:59:03
I'd really really like to go, but I don't really know anyone that well to share accommodations with. Plus the small fact that I get married a little more then a month afterward means $$$ will be a bit on the tight side.
Oh and my fiancee is a bridesmaid in a wedding the Friday of GenCon...

So yes, next year for me as well...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 08 February 2011, 08:43:55
Hehe reminds me of my Mum marrying my Stepdad, same day as a games con in my old hometown in 92.

Thankfully me and my bro went up to Manchester the day after, and i lapped up plenty of cheap northern booze and hit all the decent stores there.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 08 February 2011, 10:03:39
I may try to go, but it's still a bit early for me to say for sure.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 08 February 2011, 10:40:09
I do wonder if someday i might stretch myself to doing Gencon, bit of a long haul to get to it from where i am....but sometimes it's nice to have dreams.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 08 February 2011, 10:44:55
I enjoy GenCon because of the camaraderie; I don't think I would have had any fun back the first time I went if it wasn't for Team Davion, and I always look forward to seeing them at GC most.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: God and Davion on 08 February 2011, 15:00:14
You know, guys, it's never too early to ask (especially since Edward already mentioned it before the boards crashed), but who is going to GenCon? I have my badge and I believe Edward does as well. I expect to be sharing a room with the CSO guys again (though I believe they are planning on getting at least one other room since more will be going this year than last), not sure about Edward's room.

So? Who's in?

I will go. It will be the fourth time and every time gets even more awesome.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 08 February 2011, 15:17:45
I wish I could go, but 1,900 miles is a long, long supply chain.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 08 February 2011, 15:35:29
Well fellas, I've picked up a new hobby.  I'm learning how to play the didgeridoo.   
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 08 February 2011, 15:37:06
Well fellas, I've picked up a new hobby.  I'm learning how to play the didgeridoo.

Tell me that's not a euphemism.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 08 February 2011, 15:38:38
I'm hoping it is a euphemism.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 08 February 2011, 16:07:54
No not a euphemism, but it is the result of an idea planted while at a girl's apartment in the wee hours.  I blame the crackers.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 08 February 2011, 19:50:11
Well fellas, I've picked up a new hobby.  I'm learning how to play the didgeridoo.

Do you actually play the Didgeridoo?

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 08 February 2011, 20:50:01
Do you actually play the Didgeridoo?

Craig

Not yet.  Hence the learning part.  ;D  But no, I do physically have one and have successfully made it make noise.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 08 February 2011, 21:41:20
Oh boy. Darn near had to clean my shorts on that one.  Just had the blower on one of my boilers tear itself apart.  Sounded like a turbo prop before I could get it shutdown.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 08 February 2011, 21:52:23
I thought I saw a fuzzy blue animal near there....

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 08 February 2011, 22:09:59
Man, if people ever had to actually know anything about Montgomery they didn't read in a Stephen Ambrose book or see in Patton, they might have to shut the ****** up about him for a while.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 08 February 2011, 23:13:58
So proud of the Shift-man. He put a serious whompin' down on Buddy earlier (finally) and even played fetch for a while for the first time in months. Awesome.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 09 February 2011, 00:02:57
Man, if people ever had to actually know anything about Montgomery they didn't read in a Stephen Ambrose book or see in Patton, they might have to shut the ****** up about him for a while.

Lest people know who he is. Guy Simonds not so much.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 00:18:39
Lest people know who he is. Guy Simonds not so much.

I love Guy Simonds. I have a biography of him (Graham's The Price of Command) in my field of vision as I type this. Canada would have been better off if he could have replaced Crerar from the get-go.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 09 February 2011, 00:36:06
Well it was hoped that McNaughton would lead 1 Canadian Army but Dieppe, poor health and a spat with the MND ment comming home. And Simonds was just to junior.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 00:39:22
Well it was hoped that McNaughton would lead 1 Canadian Army but Dieppe, poor health and a spat with the MND ment comming home. And Simonds was just to junior.

The general consensus is that McNaughton was probably just as bad as Crerar. It was unfortunate that Simonds just couldn't be promoted fast enough, and that he got on so poorly with Crerar.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Davout73 on 09 February 2011, 00:51:52
I have never been a Monty fanboy per se, I think he was the right general at the right time and he was a very good commander, but he had a knack for just saying the right thing at the wrong time to make his superiors and others mad, and he seemed unable to admit a mistake, which while at times admirable is just as infuriating.  I became a huge Slim fan after reading his autobiography, but then I read it right after I read Monty's biography as well, which didn't help my opinion of Monty to be honest. 

Davout73

Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 09 February 2011, 01:14:57
For all his flaws, I can't help but like MacArthur.  Probably something to do with the fact that I've been more a student of the Pacific Theater than the European.  And maybe a bit that he was born in Arkansas, though he took pains to dissociate himself with the state for the rest of his life.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 09 February 2011, 01:54:38
The general consensus is that McNaughton was probably just as bad as Crerar. It was unfortunate that Simonds just couldn't be promoted fast enough, and that he got on so poorly with Crerar.

I don't feel eather was bad, just to truly brilant
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 09 February 2011, 06:01:19
Ahhh Generals of the Second World War eh.

I've still got big respect for Alexander, top bloke.  Oh and of course Monty, good at many things but not at any kind of diplomacy.  Of course my big favourite remains Alan Brooke.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: God and Davion on 09 February 2011, 06:46:43
For me Nimitz and Slim are great. Others had great moments mixed with mistakes, like Von Manstein, Monty and Patton.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 07:19:50
Ahhh Generals of the Second World War eh.

I've still got big respect for Alexander, top bloke.  Oh and of course Monty, good at many things but not at any kind of diplomacy.  Of course my big favourite remains Alan Brooke.

I have the unexpurgated edition of Brooke's diaries, which I love. Fascinating stuff. I like Slim, and I think Montgomery wasn't as bad as most Americans think he was...but it would be almost impossible for anyone to be that bad. I like him a hell of a lot more than Patton, who I think was an overrated prick.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 09:58:45
Anyhoo, on a happier note, who was up for megamek tonight, 7.30-8 PM CSTish?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Youngblood on 09 February 2011, 10:05:01
greatsarcasmo has showed interest.  AW said he wouldn't be able to make it 'til 9.  I'm available and can likely also rope another into playing.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 10:18:31
I fear if we start at 9 we won't be able to reach a good conclusion before I have to thrown on my sleeping cap and bunny slippers, but it sounds like we have a probable foursome.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 09 February 2011, 10:35:22
I *might* be able to join in, I don't know what plans we have for tonight. Also, my computer is getting increasingly unreliable, so that'd be another hurdle.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 10:38:35
I *might* be able to join in, I don't know what plans we have for tonight. Also, my computer is getting increasingly unreliable, so that'd be another hurdle.

Well, we'd love to have you, if you can make it around then.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 09 February 2011, 11:21:09
Anyhoo, on a happier note, who was up for megamek tonight, 7.30-8 PM CSTish?

Hmmm, a bit too late for me. But I'll be on holiday next week, so I may be able to give a game or two provided some people can start from early afternoon. As IIRC, CST is 6-7 hours earlier than for me on the Paris meridian...

As for WW2 generals, Alan Brooke indeed takes first place for me. I'll also have a good rating for the local guys, De Lattre  taking the lead.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 09 February 2011, 11:29:49
I have the unexpurgated edition of Brooke's diaries, which I love. Fascinating stuff. I like Slim, and I think Montgomery wasn't as bad as most Americans think he was...but it would be almost impossible for anyone to be that bad. I like him a hell of a lot more than Patton, who I think was an overrated prick.

What about Dwight D. Eisenhower? He managed to keep a bunch of generals who didn't like each other focused on the real enemy when it could have easily fallen apart....

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 11:34:34
I have a great soft spot for De Gaulle, despite his rocky relationship with the English-speaking world, and I like what little I know of LeClerc/the comte de Hauteclocque, I like.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 09 February 2011, 12:31:13
I can actually make it whenever.  Church tonight was cancelled due to the snow.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 12:35:13
I can actually make it whenever.  Church tonight was cancelled due to the snow.

Mas excellente!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 09 February 2011, 13:49:05
What, no love for Zhukov? 

I'll take Ike.  Without him riding heard on a bunch of egotistical SOBs the war would've been harder and longer.  Or Marshall, without him you wouldn't key generals, such as Ike, in place to begin with.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 09 February 2011, 13:54:59
...Patton, who I think was an overrated prick.
Must say I agree with this.  Patton was good at what he did, but not someone I'd want to serve under or have serve under me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 09 February 2011, 13:58:50
Ike and Marshall, good choices.  Without those two, who knows where we'd have been.

So i'm writing this on my new Quad Core, oh i'll enjoy not having the jet engine sounds that came from my old machine.  I bet Black Ops still runs like crap though, co dev of titles for consoles is usually a bad plan in my experience.  Well a bad plan for those of us who game on PCs.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 09 February 2011, 14:06:08
Anyhoo, on a happier note, who was up for megamek tonight, 7.30-8 PM CSTish?

Despite having a day off tomorrow I fear it will be too late for me on GMT
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: foxbat on 09 February 2011, 14:13:37
I can actually make it whenever.  Church tonight was cancelled due to the snow.

Well, Leclerc was a great leader, but not at that level : all he had under him was but a single division, after all, while De Lattre was managing a whole Army. De Gaulle, however much I admire the political leader and patriot he was, was barely average regarding battlefield capability : he fought 2 battles with his 4th DCR only; while the first one at Montcornet was a marginal win (the Germans just happened to bungle ito his armored regiments), the second one at Abbeville was a tactical defeat, as he failed to dislodge an Infantry Division with his tanks and took heavy losses, especially in Chars B. It can be argued though that he lacked proper infantry support, one of the plagues of French armour in 1940.

How could I forget Ike? A master of strategy, his role  can never be enough stressed in the alliaed victory.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 09 February 2011, 14:31:35
*skims one page, then skips the next 8 pages of unread AFFSHC*

Blah, blah, blah, yeah I agree. 3rdCrucisLancers is a total douchebag and I hope the show he's staring in tanks. Something about Geoff and some sort of Military History Reference I'm sure.

Um.....yeah. Hi Foxbat!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 14:44:36
3rdCrucisLancers is a total douchebag

Shit, this guy has got me pegged!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 09 February 2011, 14:48:17
And I'm still NEW here!!! *points to his Recruit badge*
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 09 February 2011, 15:05:50
Awwww i still like you.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 09 February 2011, 15:18:13
Thanks, I like you too, Rorke! Even if you ARE a bit too British for my tastes.  #P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 09 February 2011, 15:52:12
And I'm still NEW here!!! *points to his Recruit badge*

It is a bit odd to see you with only a Recruit badge. But at least, you got past the SpamBot Barrier.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 09 February 2011, 16:05:45
And I'm still NEW here!!! *points to his Recruit badge*
You have the BattleMaster of The Powers That Be.  You're associated with Them.  The ones that decide that the work day is 9 to 5 instead of 11 to 4.  The ones who decide that the hemlines will be below the knee this year and short again next year.  The ones who draw up the borders, controls the currency, handles all of the decisions that happen transparently around us.  You're with Them; same group, different department.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Drufause on 09 February 2011, 16:15:10
Nice Avatar
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 09 February 2011, 16:56:40
Well last night's little blower incident will probably cost around $8k to fix before all is said and done.  Metal fatigue can be a royal pain.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 16:57:23
Well last night's little blower incident will probably cost around $8k to fix before all is said and done.  Metal fatigue can be a royal pain.

Holy heck!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 09 February 2011, 16:59:54
Well guys, we are over 700 posts into this thread so the question I have to ask is are we going to keep this thread alive or are we going to start new ones at some point?  I think 1,000 posts would be a good time to start a new one, it's a nice round number.  Who every does the the one-thousandth post get the honor of starting the new thread?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 09 February 2011, 17:01:34
Why not wait till we get to page 100 like we did before?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 09 February 2011, 17:03:59
Holy heck!
Could've been a heck of a lot worse.  I hate to think what would've happened if I hadn't been in the office when it did.  As it was I got to the boiler and got it shutdown within about 15 seconds.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 09 February 2011, 17:06:11
Why not wait till we get to page 100 like we did before?
In your profile setting you can adjust the number of posts brought up on a single page.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 09 February 2011, 17:09:59
You could do that befor, I belive. but most of us stayed with the default
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 09 February 2011, 17:10:43
Me, a bit TOO British?

Goodness, you might make me get all philosophical if you aren't careful.  Though i imagine it's due to me now living in lovely Finland.  There's been a certain amplification of certain traits, probably a compensation for being a fish out of water.  MMMM food for thought.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 17:11:27
Could've been a heck of a lot worse.  I hate to think what would've happened if I hadn't been in the office when it did.  As it was I got to the boiler and got it shutdown within about 15 seconds.

They don't call you Boilerman for nothin'. Time to get a cape and a snappy logo!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 09 February 2011, 17:19:25
Why not wait till we get to page 100 like we did before?
Used to, they killed threads once they hit 100 pages.  Something about long threads causing issues in the software or some other techmumbojumbo I don't recall.  They don't seem to be doing so on this iteration, since Word Association is at 127 pages.
 
 
I say just let it roll.  See how many pages we can make.  After all, new iterations change the title of the thread, but nothing else.  Why bother starting a new one when we can continue this one?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 09 February 2011, 18:13:00
I just had some slightly jarring news that someone I regularly interact with but hadn't had a chance to meet in person from Facebook and something called Doctors.net (which also has forums) has just dropped dead today: eep  :'(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 09 February 2011, 19:02:46
I would like to play in the MegaMek. :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 09 February 2011, 19:03:21
Nice Avatar

Thank you kindly, sir.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 09 February 2011, 19:04:00
You have the BattleMaster of The Powers That Be.  You're associated with Them.  The ones that decide that the work day is 9 to 5 instead of 11 to 4.  The ones who decide that the hemlines will be below the knee this year and short again next year.  The ones who draw up the borders, controls the currency, handles all of the decisions that happen transparently around us.  You're with Them; same group, different department.

I consider myself a representative from the proletariat to Them.  #P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 09 February 2011, 19:09:44
They don't call you Boilerman for nothin'. Time to get a cape and a snappy logo!

I'll drink to that! Boilerman, you rock!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 09 February 2011, 19:12:58
I just had some slightly jarring news that someone I regularly interact with but hadn't had a chance to meet in person from Facebook and something called Doctors.net (which also has forums) has just dropped dead today: eep  :'(
I can empathize; the other night, I got to be the first person called, after PMO, when we had a suicide in the barracks.  Needless to say I didn't sleep the rest of the night.

S/F

Matt

Slim is hands down my favorite WWII GO.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 09 February 2011, 19:33:58
Condolences to both of you, DM and C6. That's tough stuff indeed.  :-\
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 09 February 2011, 19:48:39
Condolences to both of you, DM and C6. That's tough stuff indeed.  :-\
Thanks; not a fun week and I wasn't even heavily involved.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 09 February 2011, 19:54:23
Though late to the party, and hopefully with the bonus of annoying MDM, I'd have to say that I am at present enamored of marine generals from WWII. Roy Geiger was a good one, and so was Vandegrift, by the albeit little research I've done since my introduction to them in the Guadalcanal book I read recently.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 19:55:19
Geiger rocks.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 09 February 2011, 20:25:19
They don't call you Boilerman for nothin'. Time to get a cape and a snappy logo!
He would have a logo.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/USN_-_Rating_Badge_BT.jpg)

Err, I'm forever a fan of Ray Spruance.  Monty, I have the feeling, was pushed into higher command after winning in Egypt.  But that's just a guess.

And everybody likes Ike.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 09 February 2011, 20:46:44
Quote
The Hotmail/MSN/Live issue has been resolved for the time being. Accounts from those providers should now function properly.

Someone tell Neko?

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 21:01:29
Okay, who wants to do this MM thing, now?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 09 February 2011, 21:03:55
What's the server address?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 09 February 2011, 21:05:29
You could do that befor, I belive. but most of us stayed with the default
Really?  I never noticed that.   ;D

You know, it's amazing how fast you can move when you're scared witless because you know the thing making the noise is the bomb in the room next door.  If I hadn't been there when it happened I don't know if it would've blown up, there are a lot of safeties built into boiler controls, but I'm glad I didn't have to find out.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 21:06:58
What's the server address?

69.129.174.11 port 2348
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 09 February 2011, 21:31:42
On my way if I'm not too late.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 09 February 2011, 21:33:02
Same here. Lemme grab the latest MM first.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 09 February 2011, 22:20:58
As far as WWII Admirals go, I'm a fan of Mitscher.  Spruance is a close second.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 09 February 2011, 22:30:32
Someone tell Neko?

Craig
Splendid.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 09 February 2011, 22:40:07
Neko!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 09 February 2011, 22:42:28
Welcome back friend!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 09 February 2011, 23:04:04
[neko]!!!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 09 February 2011, 23:43:20
Neko!

Also, my god, I am the worst CBT player ever to have lived.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 09 February 2011, 23:51:24
Welcome back Neko

Also, my god, I am the worst CBT player ever to have lived.

Sounds like a good story
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 10 February 2011, 00:05:08
Well, his scout found our force...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 10 February 2011, 01:48:52
Condolences DM and C6.  Welcome back Neko.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 10 February 2011, 01:56:12
Also, my god, I am the worst CBT player ever to have lived.

I will not have others claiming my glory!

As I recall, in a brief stand-up game, I was defeated by you.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 10 February 2011, 02:11:42
I will not have others claiming my glory!

As I recall, in a brief stand-up game, I was defeated by you.
Natch, FedSuns always beat CapCon ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 10 February 2011, 02:14:28
Well, his scout found our force...

Sounds like a Wasp meets three Atlases(Atlii?)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Kojak on 10 February 2011, 02:27:02
Also, my god, I am the worst CBT player ever to have lived.

Not by a long shot, sir. There is a fellow on these boards, who I will not name, but those of you who use AIM are no doubt familiar with. He is, without a doubt, the worst CBT player in existence.  Of all the times I've played against him, I've only ever lost a single 'Mech, which for the record is one better than my dog would do and she's been dead for five years.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 10 February 2011, 03:26:40
Welocme back LF!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 10 February 2011, 03:28:07
Ed, they are giving you props on SA's BT thread for your Thud shenanigans a while back.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 10 February 2011, 04:03:11
Glad to see you couldn't stay away LF, Neko!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 07:42:24
Ed, they are giving you props on SA's BT thread for your Thud shenanigans a while back.

Whoa. PM me a link?

Basically AW and I split an AFFS force against Weirdo and Sheng, and apparently(?) we were playing double-blind, so I charged ahead with my Osiris to see what was happening. I ended up blundering into the main body of a largely MML-armed force and my Osiris survived all of two turns. I brought the rest of my 'mechs up piecemeal to try and engage the enemy, and long story short, I got defeated in detail before my more sensible team mate was able to get into the fray. Possibly my worst performance in CBT in a while, but that shouldn't discount that Youngblood and Weirdo both played skillfully and made excellent use of their forces, which I did not.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 10 February 2011, 07:59:36
Whoa. PM me a link?

Basically AW and I split an AFFS force against Weirdo and Sheng, and apparently(?) we were playing double-blind, so I charged ahead with my Osiris to see what was happening. I ended up blundering into the main body of a largely MML-armed force and my Osiris survived all of two turns. I brought the rest of my 'mechs up piecemeal to try and engage the enemy, and long story short, I got defeated in detail before my more sensible team mate was able to get into the fray. Possibly my worst performance in CBT in a while, but that shouldn't discount that Youngblood and Weirdo both played skillfully and made excellent use of their forces, which I did not.

In the few games I have played I seem to make the mistake of feeding units into combat piecemeal rather than as a unit too despite knowing full well that it is terrible terrible tactic
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 10 February 2011, 08:46:35
In the few games I have played I seem to make the mistake of feeding units into combat piecemeal rather than as a unit too despite knowing full well that it is terrible terrible tactic
If it is any consolation, I'm terrible at the game and really have problems getting it set up.

Late arrival at work today due to our massive Eastern NC snow storm that has managed to fail to produce more than trace precipitation.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 09:34:54
Dear god it's cold. I can only imagine what Minnesota's going to be like next year.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 10 February 2011, 10:40:41
Well hopefully next week I will have my MM issue sorted out--then I shall endeavour to claim "worst CHT player ever".
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 10 February 2011, 10:51:43
Neko!

Also, my god, I am the worst CBT player ever to have lived.

Nonsense! There are plenty of players who are worse!

Take Hellbe, for one -- he of the bad dice!

And me! -- Why do you think I'm writing stories for them? Its so I can win the battle!!  ;D

So, you're not the worse player! You're at worse, only the third worse player!  O0 [whipit]

Craig
(BTW -- welcome back, Neko!!)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 10 February 2011, 12:18:56
Welocme back LF!

*snap bow*

Good to see that my absence had been noted.

Dear god it's cold. I can only imagine what Minnesota's going to be like next year.

Coldererer.

Glad to see you couldn't stay away LF, Neko!

Well met, sirs.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Xtrahmxwohld on 10 February 2011, 13:04:13
Dear god it's cold. I can only imagine what Minnesota's going to be like next year.

Usually warmer than here in North Dakota.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 10 February 2011, 13:34:46
Sorry I couldn't do the MegaMek thing, 3CL, but my girl decided to go to school after all, and if she's well enough to go to school, then she goes to school.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 13:51:36
It's cool, there's always next week.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 15:17:48
Nonsense! There are plenty of players who are worse!

Take Hellbie, for one -- he of the bad dice!


Now hang on there just a moment, pardner. I've had the honor of gaming with Hellbie face to face and he is by no means as bad as he gets painted here on the boards. And nowhere NEAR as bad as Ed is. (with whom I've also had the honor of gaming face to face) :P

Heck, I'd love to game with Hellbie again, given the opportunity.

Granted, I'd also game with 3CL again at the drop of a hat. Might even drop the hat....

*shrug*
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 15:18:41
And nowhere NEAR as bad as Ed is.

I just followed your instructions!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 10 February 2011, 15:19:02
Temperature has risen over 25 degrees while I slept - and its still well below freezing.  Only 38 days until Spring.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 15:19:25
Neko!

Also, my god, I am the worst CBT player ever to have lived.

Maybe.......

 >:/!



*kicks 3CL in the jimmy and then off of the CBT Demo Team*

:P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 15:19:53
Maybe.......

 >:/!



*kicks 3CL in the jimmy and then off of the CBT Demo Team*

:P


Noooo! My jimmy!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 15:21:01
I just followed your instructions!

Run ahead with your little pew pew 'mech to find the bad guys then feed them the rest of your forces one at a time?

I think not, good sir!

I'd be more likely to tell you to take your Thunderhawk and Stalker to flank the enemy! :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 10 February 2011, 15:23:33
Stalker and Devastator and flank the enemy.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 15:24:07
Thanks Fltadm. I knew I was getting the quote wrong, but couldn't find the right pieces for it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 10 February 2011, 15:28:16
Your welcom, I was chanlling a little Rage for a moment

Mechs by Kallon, Tactics by Sesame Street
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 15:34:14
Yeah, it was a comment Rage made after gaming via MM with someone who wears Davion colors from time to time. I think TeamNutmeg might've been there to see it, if I remember correctly. I've only heard it second-hand.

Anyhow, it's a long-standing gag, though not quite as long-standing as Neko-in-a-dress.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 15:34:32
Run ahead with your little pew pew 'mech to find the bad guys then feed them the rest of your forces one at a time?

All I ever use at GenCon are little pew pew 'mechs...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 15:39:21
Did you just call the Falconer a pew-pew 'Mech?

Seriously?

Them's grounds for castration, son.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 15:41:19
Did you just call the Falconer a pew-pew 'Mech?

Seriously?

Them's grounds for castration, son.

I think that was the last time I was trusted with a big guy, back in 2007. Last time, I had a Bishamon!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 15:50:19
I think that was the last time I was trusted with a big guy, back in 2007.

Maybe because you didn't bring it back in one piece?


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Last time, I had a Bishamon!

And nothing more, right? So  you couldn't feed them the rest of our 'Mechs one at a time? :P

(I'm pretty sure I recall you piloting something else as well. But I could be confusing you with the crying 10 yr old)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 15:52:22
(I'm pretty sure I recall you piloting something else as well. But I could be confusing you with the crying 10 yr old)

A Jackrabbit.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 15:58:37
ROFL!!!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 16:04:11
Two NPAs in a row if you use forum defaults!!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 10 February 2011, 16:10:50
So what is the default?  I changed my and now I don't remember.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 16:12:31
15, I believe.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 10 February 2011, 16:14:30
15's kinda puny.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 10 February 2011, 16:21:40
Well the boiler is back up and running, the day shift busted behind today.  It's amazing how fast they can ship parts when you say "mission critical."  FYI in my experience the supplier often spends more time packaging your stuff and getting out the door than the transport company takes to get it to you.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 10 February 2011, 16:48:06
Run ahead with your little pew pew 'mech to find the bad guys then feed them the rest of your forces one at a time?

I think not, good sir!

I'd be more likely to tell you to take your Thunderhawk and Stalker to flank the enemy! :P
Oh spit.  Them's Lyran Tactics!

15, I believe.
Real men (well real forum users) use 50.

The Forum Default results in threadlock at 40.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 10 February 2011, 16:50:03
Well the boiler is back up and running, the day shift busted behind today.  It's amazing how fast they can ship parts when you say "mission critical."  FYI in my experience the supplier often spends more time packaging your stuff and getting out the door than the transport company takes to get it to you.
I can attest this is true with Walmart, who took 19 days to send me a bike 41 miles. :/
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 10 February 2011, 17:48:56
Your welcom, I was chanlling a little Rage for a moment

Mechs by Kallon, Tactics by Sesame Street
Speaking of Rage, where is he?  I haven't seen him around in a good while.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 18:40:11
Oh spit.  Them's Lyran Tactics!

Nah, even Lyrans ain't THAT dumb. They flank with Blitzkriegs.

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Real men (well real forum users) use 50.

The Forum Default results in threadlock at 40.

600 posts? Whereya get that?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 10 February 2011, 18:46:03
Nah, even Lyrans ain't THAT dumb. They flank with Blitzkriegs.

I thought they flanked with fixed fortifications... or was that are flanked by fixed fortifications?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Davout73 on 10 February 2011, 19:09:11
I thought they flanked with fixed fortifications... or was that are flanked by fixed fortifications?

If you get flanked by a fixed fortification there are other serious problems to worry about :-)

Davout73
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 10 February 2011, 19:18:33
Happens on Io all the damn time.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 10 February 2011, 19:49:58
I thought they flanked with fixed fortifications... or was that are flanked by fixed fortifications?
Nice avatar Dan.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 10 February 2011, 19:55:12
I consider myself very fortunate, gents, that none of my pipes burst. I woke up this morning to frozen pipes, so no shower which was about as badly as a day can start, fretted away most of the day while making runs home to set up space heaters under the sinks and at the supply pipe outside where it enters the foundation under the front porch, and was able to take a shower not long ago. It was glorious. Working away the day, with interspersed sessions of shoveling snow to clear a path to the crawl space and to the side of the porch and along the front walk to the water meter, without that morning shower is a luxury I did not appreciate properly since the last time I had to go without (when I lost power for seven days a few years ago). Suffice to say, I am not relying on dripping faucets tonight, but actual running streams.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 10 February 2011, 20:08:04
Wow.  It's darn rare for a pipe to freeze and not burst.  Isn't this like the second or third time your pipes have frozen Geoff?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 20:08:32
Oof. Bursting pipes SUCK. Glad you avoided that, Geoff.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 10 February 2011, 20:09:27
Wow.  It's darn rare for a pipe to freeze and not burst.  Isn't this like the second or third time your pipes have frozen Geoff?

It's those super-flexible ferro-titanium pipes he has.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 10 February 2011, 20:45:21
First time I've ever had pipes freeze, B-man. Had the power go out, but the water was always good, if liquid in defiance of natural law.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 10 February 2011, 21:06:51
I like the climate out here in Washington, but the problem is that everyone panics and everything gets shutdown with the FIRST FLAKE OF SNOW.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 10 February 2011, 21:33:22
Power, ok.  A new experience for you then Geoff.   :D

I've seen frozen pipes not burst only twice.  And it seems like we have at least one freeze up a year somewhere here at work.  This year it was 2 water lines, an 8in and a 4in, at city water pressure (100psig).  I'm glad I don't working at the RWD campus.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 10 February 2011, 21:56:16
I have avoided pipes bursting even when my neighbors have suffered it. This may be due to my leading a charmed life.  On the other hand, it makes it very strange when just a couple weeks ago, Ed's sister informed me that her pipes had burst and she needed my help with their replacement. Also I don't know why she went in to such detail on what she was wearing.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 10 February 2011, 22:45:43
I have avoided pipes bursting even when my neighbors have suffered it. This may be due to my leading a charmed life.  On the other hand, it makes it very strange when just a couple weeks ago, Ed's sister informed me that her pipes had burst and she needed my help with their replacement. Also I don't know why she went in to such detail on what she was wearing.

You're a bad man.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 10 February 2011, 23:02:16
I don't know about that. She said SHE was the one who had been bad.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 10 February 2011, 23:39:21
I have avoided pipes bursting even when my neighbors have suffered it. This may be due to my leading a charmed life.  On the other hand, it makes it very strange when just a couple weeks ago, Ed's sister informed me that her pipes had burst and she needed my help with their replacement. Also I don't know why she went in to such detail on what she was wearing.
Talk about putting the "social" in "social general"...  ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 10 February 2011, 23:55:42
I just realized I CAN'T FIND MY ****** GARY BUSEY PICTURE!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 11 February 2011, 00:02:21
So are we about to have a war of tasteless avatars here on the boards LF?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 11 February 2011, 00:04:05
I just realized I CAN'T FIND MY ****** GARY BUSEY PICTURE!

Which one? There is, after all, a gallery entitled "What if Gary Busey was in every picture ever?"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 11 February 2011, 01:28:10
I'm reading about the snow and the cold and am very grateful that at the moment I can often go out in a t-shirt and light jacket at the moment!

Oh, and as my sig should say, the new Avatar was taken from going back to the start of the spacebattles.com motivators thread but going through it all makes me very pleased we have some moderation on here as they clearly don't!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 11 February 2011, 01:54:30
600 posts? Whereya get that?
Another thread - Word Assoc iirc - was locked shortly before I made the comment.

Wow.  It's darn rare for a pipe to freeze and not burst.  Isn't this like the second or third time your pipes have frozen Geoff?
Pipes in my kitchen's "crawl space" freeze at least once a winter.  Thankfully, they are ancient and were made to last.  Though the main runoff pipe from the kitchen/sump pump has begun having some minor leakage in the basement.  Fortunately, we are talking a couple drips immediately following a Sump Pump cycle.  I've Epoxyied one previously, but the new one I didn't quite get and need to redo.  I would just replace the pipe - but there is no way the end leaving the house is going to come loose without major effort and damage to the pipe built into the floor/wall.  If it is any indication, the pipes under the kitchen may be older than my father, and cast-iron.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 11 February 2011, 08:40:37
Vash, damn you for making me snort my cappuccino!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 11 February 2011, 08:56:56
Snobby snorting NPA! ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 11 February 2011, 09:06:16
Huzzah!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 11 February 2011, 10:02:58
Cheerio
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 11 February 2011, 10:10:54
Clicked on wrong thread. Sorry. :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 11 February 2011, 10:11:54
Beefaroni!

...what? We're not listing our breakfast?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 11 February 2011, 10:14:18
No, I'm having a really, really, really bad morning.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 11 February 2011, 10:56:09
Meh i'm having a less than stellar evening.

Damn gfx issues with WoW are pissing me off something rotten.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 11 February 2011, 12:45:06
Cheerio

Stormcrow, what was your handle on the old boards?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 11 February 2011, 13:19:21
Nope, I was Vandal
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Yuri Hikado on 11 February 2011, 13:55:08
Speaking of Rage, where is he?  I haven't seen him around in a good while.

I could be mistaken, but I thought he took one too many blows to the head from the Ban-Hammer.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 11 February 2011, 13:57:57
I have avoided pipes bursting even when my neighbors have suffered it. This may be due to my leading a charmed life.  On the other hand, it makes it very strange when just a couple weeks ago, Ed's sister informed me that her pipes had burst and she needed my help with their replacement. Also I don't know why she went in to such detail on what she was wearing.
Ahh, I can help with this, as I've faced this exact problem before.  She obviously was letting you know that she needed a change of clothes as hers were all wet.  My neighbor called me up a few years back, asking the same thing and it took me forever to figure out why she was saying that, until she mentioned that she needed some new pipes laid and she was all wet now.  I hate to say it, but it actually took a second for it to click but you should have seen the look on her face when I showed up later, extra clothes in hand.  The look of relief and astonishment at my thoughtfullness was a great reward.  I never did find that busted pipe though.   ???
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 11 February 2011, 14:21:43
This may seam like a silly question, but why aren't your all your pipes eather buried low enough in the ground or insulated? I have lived in this part of Alberta for 31 years and have never had frozen pipes.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 11 February 2011, 14:24:20
Too many American homes have unfinished basements and thus no heat and very little protection from the excesses of heat. Additonally, there are a lot of mobile home (Double wides) in the cold belt and the pipes are nearly always exposed to Mother Nature.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 11 February 2011, 14:25:27
This may seam like a silly question, but why aren't your all your pipes eather buried low enough in the ground or insulated? I have lived in this part of Alberta for 31 years and have never had frozen pipes.
In all honesty, I suspect that much of the recent problems can be traced back to the fact that much of the nation has just endured a historic cold spell and places where frozen pipes were not normally a problem are being affected the most.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 11 February 2011, 15:01:48
Too many American homes have unfinished basements and thus no heat and very little protection from the excesses of heat. Additonally, there are a lot of mobile home (Double wides) in the cold belt and the pipes are nearly always exposed to Mother Nature.

The mobile home part hapons often enough, but why yould you not heat your basment in the winter.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 11 February 2011, 15:53:58
Vash, damn you for making me snort my cappuccino!

You're gonna need to be more specific; I have too much good material.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 11 February 2011, 16:34:56
I just realized I CAN'T FIND MY ****** GARY BUSEY PICTURE!

Have you thought it doesn't want to be found?  ;)

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Xtrahmxwohld on 11 February 2011, 16:37:56
The mobile home part hapons often enough, but why yould you not heat your basment in the winter.

A good chunk of the USA has a climate that doesn't get all that cold in the winter and therefore does not need to heat their basements.  There's also a large chunk of the country that doesn't have basements, but just crawlspaces under their homes.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 11 February 2011, 16:45:55
Nope, I was Vandal

There it is! I knew I recognized yer sig, just couldn't matcj it up with your old handle. Sweet 'Mech, the Stormcrow. Hands down my fave bastard-clanner 'mech.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 11 February 2011, 17:05:15
No, I'm having a really, really, really bad morning.

I had a pretty pants day too, someone trying really hard to die on us (we stopped her) meant I didn't get my lunch until about 3 and that makes me grumpy  [tickedoff] but what was worse was that my own poor organisation meant I was inefficient as well as busy and ended up having to hand over jobs I should have done to my night relief  :(

On a totally unrelated note, does anyone know if/when we will be getting a nicer colour-scheme option for the forum?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 11 February 2011, 17:12:12
I check that first thing everytime I log in. I HATE the current skin options!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 11 February 2011, 17:14:28
Yea and Verily.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Chunga on 11 February 2011, 17:20:37
It's coming.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 11 February 2011, 17:28:28
It's coming.

 [cheers]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 11 February 2011, 17:28:54
It's coming.

Like the MUL?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 11 February 2011, 17:31:51
Like the MUL?

Watchyerstep there, buckaroo.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Drufause on 11 February 2011, 18:44:41
Her is an early MUL  :D
Archer
Battlemaster
Crusader
Griffin
Locust
Marauder
Phoenix Hawk
Rifleman
Shadow Hawk
Stinger
Thunderbolt
Wasp
Warhammer
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 11 February 2011, 19:15:14
You forgot the Victor.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Drufause on 11 February 2011, 19:17:28
You forgot the Victor.
Victor is not a mech.  Its Lyran Assault battle armor.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 11 February 2011, 19:45:55
And Victor wasn't  in the original box set. He did, however, forget Wolverine.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 11 February 2011, 22:48:39
You know, being the Master of the Universe and Lord of All I Survey (trust me, it's on my business card...), people think I have expertise at everything. I chewed my way to the top by delegating to others. It's served me well. Micromanaging is for people who have too much time on their hands. What do I care about polymers, really? Not a whit, I daresay!
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Post by: Drufause on 12 February 2011, 00:10:58
And Victor wasn't  in the original box set. He did, however, forget Wolverine.
Yeah I did forget that. Must be because its a snake Mech.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 12 February 2011, 00:25:08
Just the good ones, sadly. We do get the 8d with the RAC2, but a RAC2 is a.total waste of tonnage.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 12 February 2011, 00:25:53
Drufause, what was your handle on the old boards?
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Post by: Drufause on 12 February 2011, 00:42:40
same handle there too
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Post by: nerd on 12 February 2011, 00:45:06
You know, being the Master of the Universe and Lord of All I Survey (trust me, it's on my business card...), people think I have expertise at everything. I chewed my way to the top by delegating to others. It's served me well. Micromanaging is for people who have too much time on their hands. What do I care about polymers, really? Not a whit, I daresay!
I do something similar when I write a training plan, and it gets approved.

However, I'm still at the get delegated to level right now.  And I know the only thing that lies ahead in my current career path is a lot of heartache, and more crud.

On the otherhand, I got to help an officer get qualified Officer Of the Deck today-simulated PD trip in a high traffic area.  And no sailboats!

Silent things you can hit without knowing it.  I swear, a sailing ship with auxiliary engines would be a near perfect ASW picket.  Get out on station with your engines, and then just wait.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 12 February 2011, 00:47:59
Silent things you can hit without knowing it.  I swear, a sailing ship with auxiliary engines would be a near perfect ASW picket.  Get out on station with your engines, and then just wait.

Roosevelt was obsessed with that idea during 1941-1942. Of course in those days, submarines would just surface and blow them away with their deck guns.
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Post by: nerd on 12 February 2011, 01:29:00
USS Irene Forsyte (IX-93) was the only one that was operational, but it's a bit of a pipe dream anyhow.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 12 February 2011, 02:16:37
What about something like a fanboat?  Since the peopulsion system is still out of the water, the principle's the same right?  (Note I've never been out on any body of water bigger than a lake, so my SWAGs may be way the hell off).
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Post by: boilerman on 12 February 2011, 03:44:21

Silent things you can hit without knowing it.  I swear, a sailing ship with auxiliary engines would be a near perfect ASW picket.  Get out on station with your engines, and then just wait.
It's called SOSUS Nerd.  Come on, you should know that.
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Post by: LiaoFan on 12 February 2011, 04:02:08
And my Face is back.   [rockon]
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Post by: Rorke on 12 February 2011, 04:25:13
Oh well least it's not Marty Feldman.
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Post by: BlackAce on 12 February 2011, 08:15:33
It's called SOSUS Nerd.  Come on, you should know that.

Yeah but isn't SOSUS just sea bed listening buoys?
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Post by: 97jedi on 12 February 2011, 11:58:24
I'm off to see the wizard! The wonderful wizard of groceries! But not Superman. That's right, I am boycotting his chain of supermarkets. I just can't bear the dress code anymore. I mean, keeping a cape clean in this type of weather is too much hassle!
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 12 February 2011, 12:00:27
???
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Post by: Neko_Bijin on 12 February 2011, 12:19:53
I believe he's planning to shop at Aldi but avoid Safeway.
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Post by: God and Davion on 12 February 2011, 12:23:51
And my Face is back.   [rockon]

Welcome again you and Neko. The forums are better with both of you!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 12 February 2011, 13:01:06
Welcome again you and Neko. The forums are better with both of you!

Well, at least with Neko.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 12 February 2011, 13:02:33
Although, of the scumbag Capellan fans out there, LF is probably the least........dumb.  #P
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Post by: Lord Harlock on 12 February 2011, 14:15:54
Oh well least it's not Marty Feldman.

Or Carrottop.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 12 February 2011, 14:28:41
 [stupid]
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Post by: fltadm on 12 February 2011, 14:41:53
A good chunk of the USA has a climate that doesn't get all that cold in the winter and therefore does not need to heat their basements.  There's also a large chunk of the country that doesn't have basements, but just crawlspaces under their homes.

I guse some thing just seam obvious when it is SOP. But Make little sense in other places. Thanks.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 12 February 2011, 17:13:22
Ahhhh Neko returns, glorious.

I am half inclined to compose a haiku, but i'm not poetically minded.  So i shall not.

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Post by: 97jedi on 12 February 2011, 17:33:21
I believe he's planning to shop at Aldi but avoid Safeway.

I did shop at Aldi!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 12 February 2011, 21:02:56
Welcome again you and Neko. The forums are better with both of you!

I act as I am able.

Well, at least with Neko.  ;)

 :-[

Although, of the scumbag Capellan fans out there, LF is probably the least........dumb.  #P

I should say that you didn't include MadCap, but then again, surely he's not a scumbag.

I will do my best to not stupefy you with my idiocy.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 12 February 2011, 22:05:51
Oh, I'm very well aware of who are the Capellan fanboys on these fora.....

And lest my tongue be missed firmly planted in my cheek from above - I am quite glad to see you here, friend.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 12 February 2011, 22:07:56
In other news, today was HELLA busy at the Tavolini - and yet somehow I managed to write 1600 lines of code for my Evo between customers. BOOYA!
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Post by: LiaoFan on 12 February 2011, 22:16:10
And they say no one is benefiting from the jobless recovery!
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 13 February 2011, 01:37:21
I "helped" (did nothing) Melanie pick out a new car today -- a 2010 Subaru Forester -- and it's pretty nice, especially since it was replacing a ten-year-old Ford Focus, a car that one does not brag about. It's kind of exciting to think we should have this long enough for our kids to get rides to school in it.

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Post by: boilerman on 13 February 2011, 02:13:16
Might be able to make it last long enough to let them drive it.
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Post by: Rorke on 13 February 2011, 08:01:50
hehe you want a Volvo for that, those things last forever if treated right.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 13 February 2011, 09:07:43
It's official.  Insomnia sucks.
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Post by: Stormcrow on 13 February 2011, 09:10:34
I can synpathize, B-Man. Been there, done that and have the baggy eyes to prove it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 13 February 2011, 12:09:08
Yesterday was a good day. Visited a flight museum that's been near my home all this time, and saw 3 WWI fighters, a hanger containing a Sherman, ME-109, HE-111, Spitfire, and DeLorean, and not only saw the only flying B-29 remaining in the world, but actually set foot inside it, as well as a B-24. Then I came home to find minis in the mail from a trade with Behrle Hubbuch, who did lots of B5 stuff in addition to his CBT work, and now owns the master molds for all the B5 ships he did. These are some REALLY sharp Dilgar. 8)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 13 February 2011, 12:17:36
I think I might just go to a gun show today. They give free guns at the front door, right? TV would not lie to me!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 13 February 2011, 12:19:34
The cake is a lie, son.

The cake is a lie. :-\
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Post by: boilerman on 13 February 2011, 14:49:49
I am here gentlemen to make a prediction.  For those of you who do not follow NBA basketball coach Jerry Sloan of the Utah Jazz, FYI my hometown is Slat Lake City UT if you don't know, retired this week after coaching the team for 23 years.  He is one of the longest tenured coaches in NBA history.  At any rate I am here to predict that the Jazz will move within the next 5 years.  I think the Miller family, who own the team, don't have the passion as their patriarch Larry did.  And now with the team in a slump and Sloan gone I think this town will loss interest the game.  So now it is on record that I think the team will be sold and move within 5 years since  I doubt anyone here in UT can put together a package to keep the team here.  I think it's sad, but that's what I think. 

And of course you are welcome to ignore this post if you so desire.  This is just my archive proving I made the prediction.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 13 February 2011, 16:25:57
I think I might just go to a gun show today. They give free guns at the front door, right? TV would not lie to me!

I don't know if you'd really want a free gun. Those are the ones that always backfire. You want the dollar guns. Those at the least give you a decent shot before the hero shoots you in the face.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 13 February 2011, 16:37:58
Yesterday was a good day. Visited a flight museum that's been near my home all this time, and saw 3 WWI fighters, a hanger containing a Sherman, ME-109, HE-111, Spitfire, and DeLorean, and not only saw the only flying B-29 remaining in the world, but actually set foot inside it, as well as a B-24. Then I came home to find minis in the mail from a trade with Behrle Hubbuch, who did lots of B5 stuff in addition to his CBT work, and now owns the master molds for all the B5 ships he did. These are some REALLY sharp Dilgar. 8)

You went to Love Field, didn't you?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 13 February 2011, 16:56:17
Gotta respect a man who plans his "I told you so" and documents it 5 years in advance!  8)
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Post by: nerd on 13 February 2011, 16:57:27
I think I might just go to a gun show today. They give free guns at the front door, right? TV would not lie to me!
TAANSTFL applies here.

If it's free, it might be in some really weird caliber, that costs an arm and a leg to get even a few rounds for.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 13 February 2011, 17:59:24
Yeah, I know this one gun collector who has to buy bullets for this one shotgun from Serbia.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 13 February 2011, 20:15:14
Eh, the "Jazz" is a stupid name for a Utah sports team anyway.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 13 February 2011, 20:33:37
Yesterday was a good day. Visited a flight museum that's been near my home all this time, and saw 3 WWI fighters, a hanger containing a Sherman, ME-109, HE-111, Spitfire, and DeLorean, and not only saw the only flying B-29 remaining in the world, but actually set foot inside it, as well as a B-24. Then I came home to find minis in the mail from a trade with Behrle Hubbuch, who did lots of B5 stuff in addition to his CBT work, and now owns the master molds for all the B5 ships he did. These are some REALLY sharp Dilgar. 8)

What mark of Spitfire? Vb? IXe?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 13 February 2011, 21:23:17
Eh, the "Jazz" is a stupid name for a Utah sports team anyway.

The Jazz Hands, however, would be an awesome name for a sports team.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 13 February 2011, 22:11:33
Ahh, My cat has discovered the joys of sleeping in the bathroom sink.
Anybody have any smashing ideas for their Valentine?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 13 February 2011, 22:28:42
The Jazz Hands, however, would be an awesome name for a sports team.
Is chorus line considered a sport?

Ahh, My cat has discovered the joys of sleeping in the bathroom sink.
Anybody have any smashing ideas for their Valentine?
Sculpt a rose out Twizzlers. Trust me, girls go wild for that.
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Post by: boilerman on 13 February 2011, 23:03:30
Eh, the "Jazz" is a stupid name for a Utah sports team anyway.
They didn't change the name when the Jazz left New Orleans because no one expected them to spend 30 years in Utah.  They had the perfect name opportunity too, the Utah Avalanche, but then someone let Colorado have a hockey team.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 13 February 2011, 23:25:58
I don't know, Utah Pioneers, perhaps?

I don't want to make bad jokes about things that will get me banned here.
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Post by: 97jedi on 13 February 2011, 23:29:47
Anybody have any smashing ideas for their Valentine?

I think if you smash your valentine, she won't be yours the next year.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 13 February 2011, 23:34:39

Anybody have any smashing ideas for their Valentine?

Not this year, I'm afraid. Cash is a little tight what with saving for the wedding and the big move, but I got her a necklace with a pendant made from blue seaglass (we both live near Lake Michigan, so in the summer, we often walk along the beach and collect seaglass and then get sushi), and a card with a lovelorn hedgehog on it.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 14 February 2011, 00:13:52
I think we've officially hit "old-married-couple" status, as I'm refinishing some of our furniture as christmas-birthday-valentines gift.
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Post by: LiaoFan on 14 February 2011, 00:18:18
Anybody have any smashing ideas for their Valentine?

Has anyone made the Steel Press joke yet?

Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 14 February 2011, 00:56:24
I don't know, Utah Pioneers, perhaps?

I don't want to make bad jokes about things that will get me banned here.
I'm sure that one crossed someone's mind, but then they realized they'd have to dress the Jazz Dancers in prairie dresses.  I shudder at the thought.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 14 February 2011, 01:04:32
Bah. They shoulda been the Bees.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 14 February 2011, 01:43:27
Seagulls.
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Post by: boilerman on 14 February 2011, 02:21:26
Bees are just too industrious to be caught playing basketball, they're too concerned about quotas.  Even though the seagull is the state bird if the mascot has to fly it should be the brinefly.  Then again if it has to be an insect it should be the cricket,
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Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 14 February 2011, 05:02:55
Bah. They shoulda been the Bees.

They should just trade names with New Orleans. There's a shitload of hornets in Utah, but no Jazz because it is not welcome.

Anyway, looking through Era Report 3052?
-The years were not kind to Aletha Kabrinski.
-The dudes from the 12th Star Guards are Blade and Sarah Connor.
-Ha ha, St. Ives is so lame that Kai only gets in because he's Victor's friend and they don't even get their own section.
-I always pictured Morgan Hasek-Davion as being kinda stouter.
-Holy shit everyone in Clan Smoke Jaguar is terrifying?
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 06:11:56
They should just trade names with New Orleans. There's a shitload of hornets in Utah, but no Jazz because it is not welcome.

Anyway, looking through Era Report 3052?
-The years were not kind to Aletha Kabrinski.
-The dudes from the 12th Star Guards are Blade and Sarah Connor.
-Ha ha, St. Ives is so lame that Kai only gets in because he's Victor's friend and they don't even get their own section.
-I always pictured Morgan Hasek-Davion as being kinda stouter.
-Holy shit everyone in Clan Smoke Jaguar is terrifying?

I haven't read the Era Report yet but always imagined Morgan Hasek-Davion as tall and thin

Re: Utah Jazz etc, I find the idea of sports teams moving very weird. To the best of my knowledge it has only really happened once in the UK and Wimbledon have never been forgiven for leaving and moving to Milton Keynes (where they became the Milton Keynes Dons)... even though they hadn't had a home stadium for years at all and certainly not in Wimbledon they were still considered "local"

And for Valentine's Day I got my wife a card and we may be going out for dinner to our local Italian restaurant
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 14 February 2011, 07:14:45
I could swear that he's described as barrel-chested in the Warrior trilogy or something.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 07:42:10
I could swear that he's described as barrel-chested in the Warrior trilogy or something.

I always imagined him looking a little like James Hetfield, but with tons more hair.
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Post by: Rorke on 14 February 2011, 07:58:23
Nawww can't say i ever visualised him like that.  But then i'm still kinda scarred by the 20yr Update art, it wasn't that good.

Course what do i know, with the hair a touch shorter some folks reckon i look like Jeff Tweedy out of Wilco.
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 08:40:18
I could swear that he's described as barrel-chested in the Warrior trilogy or something.

I just saw him as too much of a thinker to be musclebound, I saw him as whip-thin and good looking in SW4 and then becoming thin with a tendency to small movements of great economy but perfect timing/choice... and I saw him as mostly interchangeable with Morgan Kell  :-\

Course what do i know, with the hair a touch shorter some folks reckon i look like Jeff Tweedy out of Wilco.

I don't know who I look like but the number of people who think they have worked with me or come across me scattered across all of the places I have worked and with whom I can find no link is amazing... I must be one of a bunch of clonesbut have never encountered my own Doppleganger
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Post by: Weirdo on 14 February 2011, 08:50:37
You went to Love Field, didn't you?

Addison Airport, actually. Less airliners, more awesomeness.

Sorry Edward, I don't remember offhand what Mark it was, and my camera's battery died about two Russian jets before it.

And in other news, the dark age has ended, and the light of pewter once again shines upon us all! Thanks to my perseverance, and Stina's guidance and doing most of the real work, we once again have fresh miniatures hanging on Lone Star's very full wall! I have achieved my life's ambition! I am buttered toast!

And in still other news, while not a true member of Team Davion, I nonetheless have a mission for you. I saw this as an ad on BBC America, and feels it has a future as a banner or avatar for the AFFSHC. Get to it, chaps!
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 09:20:57
Sorry Edward, I don't remember offhand what Mark it was, and my camera's battery died about two Russian jets before it.

Do you remember the engine housing? The number of exhaust stacks on each side is a dead giveaway.

Actually, a google search tells me Addison has a Mk VIIIc LF.

You know, it's sad, but I've never seen a Spitfire in flight in person. Someday...
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Post by: Paladin1 on 14 February 2011, 10:13:50
Do you remember the engine housing? The number of exhaust stacks on each side is a dead giveaway.

Actually, a google search tells me Addison has a Mk VIIIc LF.

You know, it's sad, but I've never seen a Spitfire in flight in person. Someday...
So, at the risk of starting a serious brawl, why the amount of attention on the Spitfire but not the Hurricane?  I mean, I'm not knocking the Spit, just wondering about England's other miracle worker.  Is there something there or am I just not seeing the full picture?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 10:23:26
So, at the risk of starting a serious brawl, why the amount of attention on the Spitfire but not the Hurricane?  I mean, I'm not knocking the Spit, just wondering about England's other miracle worker.  Is there something there or am I just not seeing the full picture?

Well, the Spitfire was more modern; the all-metal construction meant that, while less easy to repair than a Hurricane, it looked "cleaner" and sleeker. Since it was also better for fighting 109s, a certain romance of the air adhered to the "Spitfire boys" in 1940; sort of like how the P-51 is more popular than the P-47 in the USA.

The Hurricane had some advantages over the Spitfire: it had a tighter turning circle because of its larger wing area, better positioning of the guns in the wings, and was more durable. The Spitfire was faster and had a better rate of climb, and could be more readily modernized. The latter characteristics won out. However, Hurris could carry phenomenal firepower in the wings, which is why it was retained for ground attack, especially in the Far East. I would not have liked to be the Zero pilot who was hit by all 12 .303 machineguns from a Hurricane IIb over Ceylon.
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Post by: Weirdo on 14 February 2011, 10:26:08
TWELVE!? :o

Jinkies...
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 10:31:02
TWELVE!? :o

Jinkies...

Yep, although some pilots removed four of the guns to increase speed. Later marks carried 4 20mm cannon instead, and there's also the mighty Hurricane IID, armed with two 40mm cannon under the wings. The British used them in North Africa against Axis tanks.

A Hurri IID:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3179882082_bb086dbb4c.jpg)

Shooting up a Fascist tank:

(http://ww2total.com/WW2/Weapons/War-Planes/Fighter-Planes/British/Hurricane/images/hawker_hurricane_mk_iid-attacking-px800.jpg)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 14 February 2011, 10:33:00
TWELVE!? :o

Jinkies...
I could have sworn that it was eight, but I'll go with Ed on this one as he's the RAF expert, especially when it concerns the Far East.  I know that the Hurricane II was bad enough with four 20mm cannons, but that's just the stuff of nightmares there.

I wonder why Davion never got a Spitfire or a Hurricane though?  Everyone knows about the cosmic joke that revolves around us fielding a design named after the Ju-87 but how cool would it have been to have the Corsair named after the Spitfire instead.  It's definitely got the lines for it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 14 February 2011, 10:35:43
"Whenever you fire this gun, somebody somewhere is going to have a Very Bad Day!"

I wonder why Davion never got a Spitfire or a Hurricane though?  Everyone knows about the cosmic joke that revolves around us fielding a design named after the Ju-87 but how cool would it have been to have the Corsair named after the Spitfire instead.  It's definitely got the lines for it.

Honestly, a direct port of that 12-MG Hurricane would be my preference. Not much air-to-air, but it'd be a devastating ground-attack bird, even if they were reduced to LMGs.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 14 February 2011, 10:35:55
Yep, although some pilots removed four of the guns to increase speed. Later marks carried 4 20mm cannon instead, and there's also the mighty Hurricane IID, armed with two 40mm cannon under the wings. The British used them in North Africa against Axis tanks.

A Hurri IID:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3179882082_bb086dbb4c.jpg)

Shooting up a Fascist tank:

(http://ww2total.com/WW2/Weapons/War-Planes/Fighter-Planes/British/Hurricane/images/hawker_hurricane_mk_iid-attacking-px800.jpg)

Ah, so I was right...sort of.  Twelve .303 machine guns just begs for a "My God, it's full of guns" quote though.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 14 February 2011, 10:37:39
"Whenever you fire this gun, somebody somewhere is going to have a Very Bad Day!"

Honestly, a direct port of that 12-MG Hurricane would be my preference. Not much air-to-air, but it'd be a devastating ground-attack bird, even if they were reduced to LMGs.
I don't know, 12 LMGs aren't going to do very much.  What size do you see this, 35-45 tons?
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 10:41:42
I could have sworn that it was eight...

For the classic Hurricane I and IIa, you're right. The IIb was less well-known and also less numerous. Still cool though!
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Post by: Weirdo on 14 February 2011, 10:43:01
No clue on the size, whatever's needed to carry the warload.

12 LMGs means an auto-dead infantry platoon, a BA squad that's suddenly much more vulnerable to lighter guns, a tank that's parked or close to it, a VTOL with no rotor, or a 'mech that REALLY doesn't want to get shot in the back again.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 14 February 2011, 10:50:24
No clue on the size, whatever's needed to carry the warload.

12 LMGs means an auto-dead infantry platoon, a BA squad that's suddenly much more vulnerable to lighter guns, a tank that's parked or close to it, a VTOL with no rotor, or a 'mech that REALLY doesn't want to get shot in the back again.
I wonder if it would be better as a conventional then?  One, maybe two passes then it's back to the barn for more go juice.  Plus, RL pods under the wings wouldn't hurt either.
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Post by: Stormcrow on 14 February 2011, 10:56:09
I could swear that he's described as barrel-chested in the Warrior trilogy or something.
I always imagined that way too, with Winfield Scott like character
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 14 February 2011, 11:50:19
I always imagined Morgan as a big guy, with long blond hair (Lion of Davion and all that).  Not unlike classic depictions of Thor.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 11:52:14
I always imagined Morgan as a big guy, with long blond hair (Lion of Davion and all that).  Not unlike classic depictions of Thor.

Pretty sure he had red hair, IIRC.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 14 February 2011, 11:53:36
You're probably right.
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Post by: LiaoFan on 14 February 2011, 12:48:20
Well, the Spitfire was more modern; the all-metal construction meant that, while less easy to repair than a Hurricane, it looked "cleaner" and sleeker. Since it was also better for fighting 109s, a certain romance of the air adhered to the "Spitfire boys" in 1940; sort of like how the P-51 is more popular than the P-47 in the USA.

Now the Me-109 was the one with the 20mm cannon in the nose, right?  From what i read, the Jerries had the advantage climbing and diving, but the Brit stuff could outmaneuver them on banking.  So the Germans would try to "bounce" them, dropping out of the sun and climbing back into it, or nearby cloud cover.

Also, when one landed in the drink, it was easier to tell which was which; Hurricane wreckage would often float.

Assuming, of course, that I remember correctly.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 13:11:12
Now the Me-109 was the one with the 20mm cannon in the nose, right?  From what i read, the Jerries had the advantage climbing and diving, but the Brit stuff could outmaneuver them on banking.  So the Germans would try to "bounce" them, dropping out of the sun and climbing back into it, or nearby cloud cover.

Some versions of the ME 109 had a 20mm in the nose, including the 109E during the Battle of Britain. It did not improve its already horrid and excessively German looks. The DB 601 engine in the ME 109 had direct fuel injection, which allowed it to dive better than Rolls-Royce Merlin-powered RAF fighters, which had to execute a graceful little half-roll before diving to prevent fuel starvation. The problem was corrected by a stopgap measure in 1941 and permanently in 1943. For most of the war, Spitfires could outperform ME 109s, although the FW 190 and its successor the Ta 152 gave them some problems when first introduced. That didn't last, though.

Both the Spitfire and the Hurricane could outmaneuver an ME 109; if a German pilot was stupid enough to try and turn with one, a Hurricane would be so far inside the Germans turning circle that after two minutes it would be behind the 109. However, most dogfights didn't last that long, so that particular scenario probably rarely happened.

German fighters on a frie jagd would try and ambush the RAF by attacking from higher altitudes and out of the sun, but it took a long time to climb to 15 or 20,000 feet, and as the Luftwaffe's targets moved further inland, this became less possible.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 14:11:46
Here's the card I got for M for Valentine's Day, btw. (http://ny-image2.etsy.com/il_570xN.121737010.jpg)
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Post by: greatsarcasmo on 14 February 2011, 14:47:46
I've always liked the looks of the German birds. The butcher-bird is my favorite, but the 109G is pretty good looking too. 
I've always liked the 'cane better then the Spitfire, seemed like the 'cane was the "everyman" while the Spitfire was more the upper-crust. 
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 14 February 2011, 14:59:26
I imagined Morgan looking like that Keisel fellow who plays for the Steelers, only with bright red hair.

I like the Hurricane over the Spitfire. Has to do with I had a model of the Hurricane, and not one of the Spitfire. I liked the twin-boom planes of the USAAF most, though, the -38 and the -61.
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Post by: Rorke on 14 February 2011, 15:02:55
MMM always had myself a thing for the Beaufighter tbh.  Especially the Ten Gun Terror....mean old bird that one.  Though the Coastal Command model with the howitzer also i find oddly attractive.
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 14 February 2011, 15:09:11
See, as much as I read about WWII, I'm a jet guy. I love the CF-100 Canuck. :D
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Post by: fltadm on 14 February 2011, 15:10:04
I have a weird Fondness for the Firefly and the Fulmar
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Post by: Rorke on 14 February 2011, 15:27:03
If we get around to jets.....English Electric Lightning and Canberra.  Adore those both.

And for those that should have been but were regrettably cancelled.  The BAC TSR2, what a beauty she was.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 14 February 2011, 15:27:30
F4-U Corsair for me. I grew up watching Blacksheep Squadron. O0
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 15:36:45
And for those that should have been but were regrettably cancelled.  The BAC TSR2, what a beauty she was.

Indeed! Gorgeous bird.

The Spitfire is my first love; I saw a picture of one when I was eight and my heart's course was set. I like the late model tropicalized Hurricanes, even though they're ugly, because they have so much heart, and I think the Firefly is a sexy Fulmar that came too late to be considered good. I dislike radial-engined fighters, though I have soft spots for the Martlet (F4F Wildcat), Buffalo, and the RN-ified Corsairs. I love the look of the Lancaster.
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Post by: Xtrahmxwohld on 14 February 2011, 15:41:46
Back near my hometown, a guy has a rebuilt )(refurbished) Avenger Torpedo plane and he'd bring it out to the local airport for the annual fly in.

For years there were rumors that the local airport was going to get a Zero found in the Solomon Islands to rebuild, but IIRC that deal fell through due to something to do with Solomon Island government. Oh that would have been cool to see, a restored Zero.  :'(

Found pictures of the Avenger... :)
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Post by: boilerman on 14 February 2011, 16:02:36
If I had to pick my favorite planes from WWII and the jet age it wouldn't be a beauty contest.  For WWII aircraft I'd have to go with the Douglas A-1 Skyraider.  It didn't fly combat during the war, its first flight was in March of '45 IIRC.  It was one of Ed Heinemann's designs.  For a plane designed during the war but then to still go into production (and build over 3,000) afterward I think really says something about the design since there were so many surplus planes at the time. 

If you want to get technical about the intro date the P-47 Thunderbolt would be my pick simply because it was so good at ground attack. 

For the jet age, I'd have to go with the A-10 'hog, looks only a mother, and maybe a grunt, could love but it knows its business.

See a pattern?   :D

Just as a side note I had a high school teacher that flew Skyraiders during the Korean War, he had some very interesting stories to tell.  More than once he said he came back to the carrier with more than a few holes in his plane.
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 14 February 2011, 16:07:10
If we get around to jets.....English Electric Lightning and Canberra.  Adore those both.

And for those that should have been but were regrettably cancelled.  The BAC TSR2, what a beauty she was.
I appreciate the performance of the Lightning, but it's a touch goofy looking. Still, a far, far better craft than the F-104. As far as the TSR2, the wings seem a bit... stubbly.

Like President Johnson, I'm a fan of the RA-5C. :D
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Post by: Rorke on 14 February 2011, 16:41:08
I also have a soft spot for the Buccaneer, now that was one pretty jet. 
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 16:43:39
I also have a soft spot for the Buccaneer, now that was one pretty jet.

Quite agree. There's no middle ground with early Cold War British jets; they're either really good looking, or unspeakably hideous.

Personally, I like the Tornado F. 3 and the F-4 Phantom a lot.
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Post by: greatsarcasmo on 14 February 2011, 16:48:27
According to family lore (I should look that up, btw) My great-uncle flew Corsairs around the same area as the Black Sheep. The squadron name was something to do with birds. I'm sure if I saw it, I would know it.

As for jets, I love the meteor, but gimme the B58. Nothing like hot nuclear death delivered at mach two in a beautiful chrome package.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Convair_B-58_Hustler_USAF.jpg/220px-Convair_B-58_Hustler_USAF.jpg)
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Post by: God and Davion on 14 February 2011, 16:54:21
See, as much as I read about WWII, I'm a jet guy. I love the CF-100 Canuck. :D
What not to love about it?  8)

I prefer the Spitfire over the Hurricane. I think that the Hurricane was an awesome plane but it was more simple and it just couldn't get improved like the Spit.
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 14 February 2011, 17:02:29
My dad loved the Hustler, was the one jet he wanted to ride in during his stint in the Air Force. Never got near one, though. :(

The Phantom looked like a pug-nosed brawler, and was better than alternatives at the time. Little disappointed, though, that the lightweight F-5 didn't get more USAF use, although it seemed like you could get one with a nice resource economy and 20 box tops from any Kellogg's cereal...
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Post by: LiaoFan on 14 February 2011, 17:26:28
Wasn't the F-4 called the "Double Ugly"?
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 14 February 2011, 17:41:06
For jets, I've ALWAYS loved the Viper first and foremost. Seeing the Thunderbirds in action as an 8yr old locked that one in.
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Post by: BlackAce on 14 February 2011, 18:11:46
As much as I love the early mark Spits, it's the Mosquito FB Mk.6 that's my favourite.

There's something immensly pleasing about a twin-engined aircraft with 4 20mm cannons, 4 machine guns, a 4000lb bomb bay and that could outfly most of its rivals, even go toe to toe with single engine fighters, while being made mostly out of plywood and balsa.  8)
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 18:25:51
As much as I love the early mark Spits, it's the Mosquito FB Mk.6 that's my favourite.

There's something immensly pleasing about a twin-engined aircraft with 4 20mm cannons, 4 machine guns, a 4000lb bomb bay and that could outfly most of its rivals, even go toe to toe with single engine fighters, while being made mostly out of plywood and balsa.  8)

The Mossie was a beautiful aeroplane... as were the Spitfire (a good, upgradable "modern" short ranged fighter and interceptor), the Hurricane (the final upgrade of an older design, orginally a biplane but able to carry a lot of air-to-mud ordnance) and the Beaufighter. I remember reflecting with my Grandfather about the Lancaster and my astonishment at realising that in his youth she was a new and modern design...

Post-war jets like the Vampire and Hawker Hunter were gorgeous, the Canberra was great but I also think the TomCat is gorgeous while the Tornado can have it's moments. The Harrier just has a special place in my heart... but that may be due to watching the Falklands War as an infant! (Apparently I loved the music at the start of the news, while my Mum watched the news for information on the war, I was only about 1!)

In totally unrelated news, I may be travelling to the US in the Summer, particularly NYC, SLC, Yellowstone and Chicago... anyone around those parts? It would be lovely to meet people in the flesh...

Final thing was that I was reading in the BMJ today that someone was suggesting that Medicine, which currently gets berrated for not being enough like airline pilots, should follow a Marine model (particularly the USMC MAGTF) of flexibility within administrative structures to create mission appropriate forces taylored for the mission at hand... there may be a post-Marines career for Charlie 6 in giving lectures about this!
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Post by: boilerman on 14 February 2011, 18:30:25
I'm in SLC UT.
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 18:32:43
I'm in SLC UT.

It would be lovely to put faces to usernames... I was also hoping to see 3CL in Chicago

I have an aunt and uncle in SLC and have previously enjoyed driving from there to Yellowstone with my Father and so hope to have a similar experience with my wife
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Post by: Peacemaker on 14 February 2011, 18:40:40
I like the DeLorean myself.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 18:45:44
I like the DeLorean myself.

Northern Ireland's finest car...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 14 February 2011, 18:50:51
I'm in SLC UT.

Wow. I'm sorry.
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Post by: 97jedi on 14 February 2011, 18:52:04
Hmm, WWII planes? I think my favorite from childhood was the Corsair. I have to say, though, that if I had to pick a single plane, it would be Enola Gay. Not a fighter, sure, but still...
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Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 14 February 2011, 19:10:37
Bah, that's the one everyone picks.
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Post by: FedSunsBorn on 14 February 2011, 19:16:35
For WWII fighter aircraft, I would have to go with the P-38. Twin engines, long range, good speed and frightening firepower. The forked tailed devil indeed.

Oh, and the Catalina PBY would have to be my favorite non-fighter aircraft. So much character in a flying boat.  ;)
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 14 February 2011, 19:28:10
I'm another fan of the Fork-Tailed Devil.  And the Black Widow.  As far as Brit birds go, I have great respect for the Mosquito.  The little wooden fighter/bomber/recon plane that could...do anything.
 
 
In the jet age, I've got to go with the most beautiful plane in the world; the A-10 Warthog.  I don't understand why people think it's ugly.  Of course, I have a different wild pig in my avatar, that might have something to do with it.  I'm also a fan of the Fighting Falcon.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 19:30:00
Hmm, WWII planes? I think my favorite from childhood was the Corsair. I have to say, though, that if I had to pick a single plane, it would be Enola Gay. Not a fighter, sure, but still...

Certainly Herb's favourite (along with Boxcar)
Wow. I'm sorry.

Don't be rude... I can't remember which bit of the rebelious provinces you live in but rest assured if I could remember through my port-induced semi-coma I would be mean about it
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 19:32:38
I'm another fan of the Fork-Tailed Devil.  And the Black Widow.  As far as Brit birds go, I have great respect for the Mosquito.  The little wooden fighter/bomber/recon plane that could...do anything.
 
 
In the jet age, I've got to go with the most beautiful plane in the world; the A-10 Warthog.  I don't understand why people think it's ugly.  Of course, I have a different wild pig in my avatar, that might have something to do with it.  I'm also a fan of the Fighting Falcon.

The A-10 has an amazing functional utility that is a beauty in itself

I was just watching a programme on our Channel 5 about HMS Manchester and even though she is/was an aging Type 42 Destroyer she could still cut it at full speed and watching her pulling away with ful power was amazing. I think we are supposed to like things that are aerodynamic etc but the A-10 is just something else...
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 14 February 2011, 19:46:10
The A-10 has an amazing functional utility that is a beauty in itself
A plane that hasn't missed an opportunity to shoot friendlies, particularly Marines, within days of opening darn near every conflict since it was introduced.  No thanks, keep it well away from me.

S/F

Matt

PS - thanks for the early mention on post-career employment; four years is not too soon to start looking.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 14 February 2011, 19:53:59
I was just watching a programme on our Channel 5 about HMS Manchester and even though she is/was an aging Type 42 Destroyer she could still cut it at full speed and watching her pulling away with ful power was amazing. I think we are supposed to like things that are aerodynamic etc but the A-10 is just something else...

She's a Type 42 batch 3, right? They're beautiful ships, as were the 22/3s.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 14 February 2011, 19:59:55

Don't be rude... I can't remember which bit of the rebelious provinces you live in but rest assured if I could remember through my port-induced semi-coma I would be mean about it

Speaking entirely from personal experience, Boilerman simply does not deserve to live in such a place. If anyone is being mean it is you for implying he might.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 20:10:25
A plane that hasn't missed an opportunity to shoot friendlies, particularly Marines, within days of opening darn near every conflict since it was introduced.  No thanks, keep it well away from me.

S/F

Matt

PS - thanks for the early mention on post-career employment; four years is not too soon to start looking.

They also seem to be unable to distinguish British equipment from Iraqi issue  :(

It was an interesting point someone made about using the USMC as a better model for healthcare than single action ritualised performance like landing an aeroplane. I have long disliked the airline comparison with medicine but from what I have learned of the Marines (admittedly mostly from Wikipedia!) it seems a better model of how to undertake the multiple, simultaneous actions I find myself undertaking at work

She's a Type 42 batch 3, right? They're beautiful ships, as were the 22/3s.

I think so, such ships have been described as "greyhounds of the sea" for good reason

Speaking entirely from personal experience, Boilerman simply does not deserve to live in such a place. If anyone is being mean it is you for implying he might.

I found SLC an odd place but that can be said of all of my experiences on the barbarian side of the Pond
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 14 February 2011, 20:46:40
They also seem to be unable to distinguish British equipment from Iraqi issue  :(
I thought about that immediately after hitting post.
It was an interesting point someone made about using the USMC as a better model for healthcare than single action ritualised performance like landing an aeroplane. I have long disliked the airline comparison with medicine but from what I have learned of the Marines (admittedly mostly from Wikipedia!) it seems a better model of how to undertake the multiple, simultaneous actions I find myself undertaking at work
See if you can download MCDP 1-0 Marine Corps Operations.  It is dry in places and if you can get around the propoganda it offers some good doctrinal thought.  We certainly do a lot of stuff simultaneously.

S/F

Matt
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 20:51:53
See if you can download MCDP 1-0 Marine Corps Operations.  It is dry in places and if you can get around the propoganda it offers some good doctrinal thought.  We certainly do a lot of stuff simultaneously.

S/F

Matt

We have weekly peer teaching and I wonder if I could use MCDP-10 for that...

I thought about that immediately after hitting post.

I hadn't realised they did that to the USMC and am sorry.

I was reflecting with my WW2 era grandfather (was in the Army, never deployed overseas as we never got around to invading Japan) today about such things and the huge losses of 60-70 years ago compared with our current operations, not that it doesn't diminish the tragedy of each one but it did make me stop and think  :(

Clearly I am now getting to the maudlin part of my alcohol consumption curve... just a short wait until I get to "hangover"  :-\
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Post by: nerd on 14 February 2011, 20:59:39
I've got a weird soft spot for the Spruance Destroyers and Perry frigates.  I blame my old man being on a Perry during the early 90's.  And the Ticos funny with those massive superstructures.

OTOH, there's not much else in the way of soul for warship designs these days.  Nobody's really building graceful Greyhounds of the Seas.
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 14 February 2011, 21:02:13
I've got a weird soft spot for the Spruance Destroyers and Perry frigates.  I blame my old man being on a Perry during the early 90's.  And the Ticos funny with those massive superstructures.

OTOH, there's not much else in the way of soul for warship designs these days.  Nobody's really building graceful Greyhounds of the Seas.

I have vague memories of some of the mine-warfare warships still looking sleek but too many of the front-line warships are starting to go the way of the F-117  :'(
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Post by: nerd on 14 February 2011, 21:43:41
Of course, I get to see the remains of the Last Real Cruiser the US ever built daily as a reminder that all ships will pass.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 14 February 2011, 22:01:18
A plane that hasn't missed an opportunity to shoot friendlies, particularly Marines, within days of opening darn near every conflict since it was introduced.  No thanks, keep it well away from me.

S/F

Matt


Odd that you say this. The Thunderbolt II has a reputation as the ground-pounder's favorite, due to the fact that it flies slow enough to recognize friendlies and NOT hit them. Despite my love for the Viper, I have to admit that it is often moving too fast for the close air support role - despite the fact that it gets tapped for it quite a bit. The A-10, however is a thing of beauty, low, slow, durable as hell itself, and mean, mean, mean.  [rockon]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 14 February 2011, 22:02:23
They also seem to be unable to distinguish British equipment from Iraqi issue  :(

Ahh, that must be it.

Either that or some leftovers from that whole 1812 invasion you guys tried....  ;)
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Post by: LiaoFan on 14 February 2011, 22:28:21
I'm another fan of the Fork-Tailed Devil.  And the Black Widow....
 
In the jet age, I've got to go with the most beautiful plane in the world; the A-10 Warthog...

******, AW, GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

The Black Widow was sweet, sexy science.  The P-38 was a monster.  And the A-10 wins forever.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 14 February 2011, 22:31:53
Can't.  the contents of your mind are part of my 4th War spoils.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 14 February 2011, 22:42:05
I would concern myself, but you've obviously not perused them, or you wouldn't be able to type legible sentences.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 14 February 2011, 22:48:36
I would concern myself, but you've obviously not perused them, or you wouldn't be able to type legible sentences.
It kind of sits in the archives, to be dusted off, and shown each year to remember the good times.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 14 February 2011, 22:50:31
I can, however, sell you exclusive rights to the use of your mind.  Shall I call my Steiner buddy to come talk price?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 14 February 2011, 22:58:42
Can't.  the contents of your mind are part of my 4th War spoils.


Wow. That was AWESOME.  [applause]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 14 February 2011, 23:17:00
A plane that hasn't missed an opportunity to shoot friendlies, particularly Marines, within days of opening darn near every conflict since it was introduced.  No thanks, keep it well away from me.

S/F

Matt
Yea, that unfortunately is a training and doctrine issue.  The USAF always did have its head up its rear when it came to training for the right mission.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 14 February 2011, 23:24:10
Wow. Seems like some reorganization is in order.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 14 February 2011, 23:38:40
I can, however, sell you exclusive rights to the use of your mind.  Shall I call my Steiner buddy to come talk price?

I am the Lyran Commonwealth, and we maintain a "hands-off, fair game" policy on LiaoFan until he reveals his true identity.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 15 February 2011, 00:15:06
So Capellan insanity is about the only thing you guys won't touch?

Well, it's still useful as a trophy.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 15 February 2011, 00:17:09
Drat.  It's a lot harder to find Diamond Sharks when you need a deal brokered.  You can usually find Lyrans hanging around on the outskirts of all the military bases.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 15 February 2011, 00:25:19
That makes them sound rather like certain ethnic groups.

And I don't think bidding against the Sharks would be much fun, you know.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 15 February 2011, 00:33:24
I was going more for the character of the establishments themselves than who runs them, but I see your point.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 15 February 2011, 00:35:27
Now, I'm just trying to get LiaoFan to accept himself for who he really is. To take his Zeus out of the Mech Cubicle.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 15 February 2011, 00:40:50
You know that my soft spot for Lyran gear has absolutely nothing to do with the Zeus, good sir.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 15 February 2011, 00:45:25
The Furillo-built ZEU-9T is the kind of thing that bends minds.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 15 February 2011, 00:50:03
Of course, most any mech can do that.  Human minds are remarkably fragile when sat upon by 20-100 ton war machines.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 15 February 2011, 00:54:17
Most of them don't make "oOoOoOoOoOoO" noises when they run though.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 15 February 2011, 01:01:04
The 9T is a kinda special moment in 'Mech history...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 15 February 2011, 01:25:30
It's like, Banshee-S, Starslayer, Zeus-9T. Any one you'd be lucky to see debut but some got to see all three.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 15 February 2011, 02:19:25
Kinda like drafting Clay Matthews, Aaron Rodgers, and AJ Hawk...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 15 February 2011, 03:01:22
And Jennings and Finlay.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Shirotora on 15 February 2011, 03:09:00
Late in on the fighter discussion.

WWII - Not enamored of the fighters (though I love the Corsair), I preferred the medium bombers like the A-20 Havoc, the A-26 Invader, B-26 Marauder and the DeHavilland Mosquito, especially when they were used ground support and strike aircraft.

Jet Age: F7U Cutlass, A7 Corsair II, F8 Crusader, F-4 Phanthom II and F105 Thunderbird
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 15 February 2011, 07:12:44
Hehe Phantoms were oddly beautiful, as were Corsair IIs.   

As a kid i lived close to the BAE plant at Filton Bristol.  Every so often during the late 70s and early 80s we'd get the odd Vulcan bomber.  The noise that thing made was unreal, but what a beauty.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 15 February 2011, 16:49:57
For the most part I abhor Hollywood remakes but Arthur (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810167411/trailer) looks to be an improvement on the old.  If for no other reason I'll have to go see it just because I'm a Helen Mirren fan.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 15 February 2011, 16:50:29
For the most part I abhor Hollywood remakes but Arthur (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810167411/trailer) looks to be an improvement on the old.  If for no other reason I'll have to go see it just because I'm a Helen Mirren fan.

I won't, but I find Russell Brand kind of wearying.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 15 February 2011, 16:58:25
I won't, but I find Russell Brand kind of wearying.
Agreed. Though I do like British comedy, I can't fathom how the British (or anyone, for that matter) can find him funny. Jennifer Garner is in it , too and that's another strike against watching the film. I don't know if Helen Mirren's vast talent can overcome the suckitude of those two and Luis Guzman.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 15 February 2011, 18:12:25
I didn't like Arthur to begin with, so this really isn't marketed to me. Still, there are those who will enjoy the film for themselves.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 15 February 2011, 19:19:43
I like Russell Brand. He seems to be effortlessly funny.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 15 February 2011, 20:09:13
Agreed. Though I do like British comedy, I can't fathom how the British (or anyone, for that matter) can find him funny. Jennifer Garner is in it , too and that's another strike against watching the film. I don't know if Helen Mirren's vast talent can overcome the suckitude of those two and Luis Guzman.

Most of us don't. He made his name as a comedy chat show host, he was a pretty mediocre stand-up.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 15 February 2011, 20:11:38
Odd that you say this. The Thunderbolt II has a reputation as the ground-pounder's favorite, due to the fact that it flies slow enough to recognize friendlies and NOT hit them. Despite my love for the Viper, I have to admit that it is often moving too fast for the close air support role - despite the fact that it gets tapped for it quite a bit. The A-10, however is a thing of beauty, low, slow, durable as hell itself, and mean, mean, mean.  [rockon]
The USMC is the Joint proponent for Close Air Support and I've yet to meet a Marine that wants anything to do with them.  Give us our own Hornets, Cobras, or Harriers with a guy I likely went to The Basic School or Command & Staff flying it, leading the section, or commanding the squadron.   Most Soldiers I've worked with really never saw any air support unless they are jumping out of it or it is a UH-60.  To be honest, I've often wondered exactly who wanted it around given the time it took to get a glass cockpit.  Check out some of the YouTube fratricide videos.  Besides, if it isn't Marine air the mortars and artillery tend to get shut off while whomever figures what they are doing to the target; I like aviators willing test a "stay above 2500" set to avoid 155mm impacts just to get the target for the rifle company in contact.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 15 February 2011, 20:29:42
We have weekly peer teaching and I wonder if I could use MCDP-10 for that...

I hadn't realised they did that to the USMC and am sorry.

I was reflecting with my WW2 era grandfather (was in the Army, never deployed overseas as we never got around to invading Japan) today about such things and the huge losses of 60-70 years ago compared with our current operations, not that it doesn't diminish the tragedy of each one but it did make me stop and think  :(

Clearly I am now getting to the maudlin part of my alcohol consumption curve... just a short wait until I get to "hangover"  :-\
Maudlin to hangover is rarely a long wait.  My old man, a retired USMC Colonel, lit up one of his in-laws when they said that a specific number was too high; it is the first one that matters to us.

As to your peer training, Chapter 6 is probably the most theoretical and therefore broadly useful.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 15 February 2011, 20:33:29
I never heard of Russell Brand until the Arthur trailer so I go in with no expectations.  I've also found Luis Guzman entertaining, I think he is a pretty good supporting actor.  I'm at a point in my life where I go to the movies to be entertained for a couple of hours, I don't expect to see an academy award performances.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 15 February 2011, 21:18:45
  I'm at a point in my life where I go to the movies to be entertained for a couple of hours, I don't expect to see an academy award performances.

Yeah, you said it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 16 February 2011, 01:23:24
So I put a couple of steaks in the oven to broil tonight.  I managed to set the fire alarm off three times due to the smoke coming out of the oven.  But the one I ate came out perfectly, so it's a qualified success here as the bachelor chef.

Next time, I'll try not to set off the smoke detectors.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 16 February 2011, 01:41:18
You probably need to clean your oven. Likely you've got some old boilover.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 16 February 2011, 09:37:02
Cranked out roughly 300 scratch-built .png files last night. One third of the way there on my current project for my android
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 09:37:54
Cranked out roughly 300 scratch-built .png files last night. One third of the way there on my current project for my android

Which is?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 16 February 2011, 10:08:15
You probably need to clean your oven. Likely you've got some old boilover.

Or someone used the broiler pan and didn't clean it afterwards.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 10:30:24
The USMC is the Joint proponent for Close Air Support and I've yet to meet a Marine that wants anything to do with them.  Give us our own Hornets, Cobras, or Harriers with a guy I likely went to The Basic School or Command & Staff flying it, leading the section, or commanding the squadron.   Most Soldiers I've worked with really never saw any air support unless they are jumping out of it or it is a UH-60.  To be honest, I've often wondered exactly who wanted it around given the time it took to get a glass cockpit.  Check out some of the YouTube fratricide videos.  Besides, if it isn't Marine air the mortars and artillery tend to get shut off while whomever figures what they are doing to the target; I like aviators willing test a "stay above 2500" set to avoid 155mm impacts just to get the target for the rifle company in contact.

S/F

Matt
I've often wondered why the USMC didn't acquire the A-10 for it's own missions.  I mean, I know that it's kind of a one-trick pony, but like you said, CAS is and always has been a Marine trademark.  I know that the AF didn't want to give them up, and I even seem to remember a little interservice fight back in the late 80's or early 90's when the A-10 was being looked at for phase out, but I never understood the AF's reluctance of spreading this baby around a little.

Maybe they just need to be reminded that they aren't even covered by the Constitution and should be rolled back into the Army.   ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 10:32:08
I suspect part of it is that the A-10 is not carrier-capable.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 10:34:50
I've often wondered why the USMC didn't acquire the A-10 for it's own missions.  I mean, I know that it's kind of a one-trick pony, but like you said, CAS is and always has been a Marine trademark.  I know that the AF didn't want to give them up, and I even seem to remember a little interservice fight back in the late 80's or early 90's when the A-10 was being looked at for phase out, but I never understood the AF's reluctance of spreading this baby around a little.

Maybe they just need to be reminded that they aren't even covered by the Constitution and should be rolled back into the Army.   ;D
Maybe we should just roll all the services into one combined Armed Forces of the United States (AFUS).  I'm sure that would go over well  ::)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 10:36:53
Maybe we should just roll all the services into one combined Armed Forces of the United States (AFUS).  I'm sure that would go over well  ::)

It worked, sort of, for Canada.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 10:39:13
Considering that the AF, when it was first developed, was a part of the US Army, which is established along with the Navy and Coast Guard, by the Constitution, I don't see why it was ever made a seperate entity to begin with.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 10:40:20
I suspect part of it is that the A-10 is not carrier-capable.
Yes, but you know, the F-35 is going to take over that role.  Have you heard about about the F-35?  The F-35 is awesome!  The F-35 can perform all your air missions.  Close air support, air superiority, interceptor, cargo carrier, Air Force One replacement, space shuttle (with optional booster attachments), coffee maker.  If you have the F-35, you really don't need any other airplanes!
 ::)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 10:44:19
Yes, but you know, the F-35 is going to take over that role.  Have you heard about about the F-35?  The F-35 is awesome!  The F-35 can perform all your air missions.  Close air support, air superiority, interceptor, cargo carrier, Air Force One replacement, space shuttle (with optional booster attachments), coffee maker.  If you have the F-35, you really don't need any other airplanes!
 ::)
Actually I heard that, due to budget cuts, the Navy's variant, VTOL variant and the Coffee Maker variant were all scrapped and the roles are to be carried out by the Space Shuttle variant.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 10:47:25
Considering that the AF, when it was first developed, was a part of the US Army, which is established along with the Navy and Coast Guard, by the Constitution, I don't see why it was ever made a seperate entity to begin with.

Its strategic function as one of the main nuclear arms of decision was a factor in gaining it independent service status. Additionally, the career arc of an air officer is of necessity very different from that of a ground-based one. Also, the Army Air Corps felt like the RAF had a good thing going on. That, by the way, is a major reason the USN opposed an independent Air Force; during the grim interwar period, the Royal Navy actually had a 70/30 split with the RAF for its own aircrew, including the people who serviced the planes. They wore their own uniforms and vanished back into the RAF when the ship was in port, causing much consternation.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 10:48:09
Actually I heard that, due to budget cuts, the Navy's variant, VTOL variant and the Coffee Maker variant were all scrapped and the roles are to be carried out by the Space Shuttle variant.
Yeah, I think something similar will happen to the Air Force One version too, because the White House press corps keeps complaining about having to hold onto the wings (it really messes up their hair in midflight).
 :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 16 February 2011, 11:04:13
Which is?

This part of it is an animated tumbler-style battery level indicator with animations for every percentile, both charging and discharging.

It's part of a larger project retheming Froyo to look like a 70s-80s era hi-fi unit.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 11:05:54
It's part of a larger project retheming Froyo to look like a 70s-80s era hi-fi unit.

Sweet!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 11:07:06
Its strategic function as one of the main nuclear arms of decision was a factor in gaining it independent service status. Additionally, the career arc of an air officer is of necessity very different from that of a ground-based one. Also, the Army Air Corps felt like the RAF had a good thing going on. That, by the way, is a major reason the USN opposed an independent Air Force; during the grim interwar period, the Royal Navy actually had a 70/30 split with the RAF for its own aircrew, including the people who serviced the planes. They wore their own uniforms and vanished back into the RAF when the ship was in port, causing much consternation.
No argument here that the decision was made for strategic reasons, but I still don't think that they should have made the USAF a completely seperate entity.  Maybe something more along the lines of the relationship between the Navy and Marine Corps would have been better.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 11:10:40
No argument here that the decision was made for strategic reasons, but I still don't think that they should have made the USAF a completely seperate entity.  Maybe something more along the lines of the relationship between the Navy and Marine Corps would have been better.

One imagines Curtis LeMay was a hard man to say no to, not least because I'd rank him as the service chief most likely to bite and kick.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 11:37:37
One imagines Curtis LeMay was a hard man to say no to, not least because I'd rank him as the service chief most likely to bite and kick.
Maybe so, but the Constitution trumps him.  I'd pit Patrick Henry, Ben Franklin or TJ against LeMay any day.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 11:38:19
Besides, if push came to shove, we could have just had Burr shoot him.   :-X
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 11:38:52
Maybe so, but the Constitution trumps him.  I'd pit Patrick Henry, Ben Franklin or TJ against LeMay any day.

Well, LeMay won, so...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 11:46:26
Well, LeMay won, so...
True, but what does that say about us though?  So much for the Rule of Law and adherance to principles when personal charisma and emotions are introduced into the mix? 

Suddenly television makes so much more sense...    :-X
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 11:53:26
True, but what does that say about us though?  So much for the Rule of Law and adherance to principles when personal charisma and emotions are introduced into the mix? 

Suddenly television makes so much more sense...    :-X

Frankly, I'm not sure the Founding Fathers could have foreseen a need or otherwise for an independent air force.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 12:02:56
Frankly, I'm not sure the Founding Fathers could have foreseen a need or otherwise for an independent air force.
They didn't need too, they foresaw the need to alter the USC and gave us a means to do so.  That we didn't do it just proves my point about our lack of commitment to the Rule of Law.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 16 February 2011, 12:03:38
I just wonder why they half-assed it.  Makes us Army Aviators red headed stepchildren in our own service, and dependent on the AF for a lot of stuff (like weather data, for instance).
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 12:06:14
They didn't need too, they foresaw the need to alter the USC and gave us a means to do so.  That we didn't do it just proves my point about our lack of commitment to the Rule of Law.

I'm not much of a constructionist, which I know puts me in the minority here. I've always felt an unwritten constitution like in the UK could have saved a lot of heartache. But perhaps I'm straying too close to politics.

I just wonder why they half-assed it.  Makes us Army Aviators red headed stepchildren in our own service, and dependent on the AF for a lot of stuff (like weather data, for instance).

The USAF didn't recognize the potential of non-fixed-wing aircraft, and the army developed them specifically because they weren't prohibited. It's all about getting a bigger slice of that sweeeet budgetary pie.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 12:06:49
I just wonder why they half-assed it.  Makes us Army Aviators red headed stepchildren in our own service, and dependent on the AF for a lot of stuff (like weather data, for instance).
I suspect it had more to do with personal fiefdoms within the various departments than anything else.  I know the corporate world is like this, especially as you get into the middle management layers, and we've all heard stories about the interservice issues.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 12:10:22
I realize that we're walking kind of close to the edge in regards to politics, but as long as we're dealing with the mechanics of it and not specific, modern topics we should be okay.  At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

An unwritten constitution?  How's that work?  I'm not up on UK law or legal structures so bear with me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 16 February 2011, 12:15:59
It basically just means that there's The Way Things Are Done, and people get upset if things aren't done that way.  Obviously it's a bit more complex than that, but what would the internet be without reductio ad absurdum?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 12:17:32
An unwritten constitution?  How's that work?  I'm not up on UK law or legal structures so bear with me.

Reasonably well. The length of England and later the UK's political existence has probably made the ability to radically revise the constitution more of a necessity than it's been here. Basically, there's no one primary document; just a series of key statutes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom#Key_statutes_and_conventions) that govern how laws are made and executed. A lot of it is based on tradition.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 12:33:53
Reasonably well. The length of England and later the UK's political existence has probably made the ability to radically revise the constitution more of a necessity than it's been here. Basically, there's no one primary document; just a series of key statutes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom#Key_statutes_and_conventions) that govern how laws are made and executed. A lot of it is based on tradition.
I'm still reading over the information, but I didn't realize that the Soverign still retained so much power in the UK.  I thought that the Royals were just figureheads now, but according to what I'm reading, there's actually quite a bit of power left.  It just seems to be that they don't make use of it due to tradition.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 16 February 2011, 12:43:14
A history professor whom I greatly respect, and who specializes in Britain, once told me that if the Royal Family ever tried to actually assert power (refusing to grant Royal Assent was his specific example, IIRC) the consequences would be....drastic.  As in their removal from power.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 12:45:29
A history professor whom I greatly respect, and who specializes in Britain, once told me that if the Royal Family ever tried to actually assert power (refusing to grant Royal Assent was his specific example, IIRC) the consequences would be....drastic.  As in their removal from power.

Yes, it's very unlikely the monarch would win in a contest with parliament, and trying conclusions with them would likely lead to the end of the monarchy and the establishment of (gag) a republic.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 12:49:01
A history professor whom I greatly respect, and who specializes in Britain, once told me that if the Royal Family ever tried to actually assert power (refusing to grant Royal Assent was his specific example, IIRC) the consequences would be....drastic.  As in their removal from power.
That may very well be the case, it just seemed that the power was still there in theory.  Interesting all the same.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 13:29:24
Maybe so, but the Constitution trumps him.  I'd pit Patrick Henry, Ben Franklin or TJ against LeMay any day.
Since neither Patrick Henry (he "smelled a rat") nor Thomas Jefferson (then ambassador to France) participated in drafting the Constitution, and Ben Franklin was over 80, I'd throw in with LeMay.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 16 February 2011, 13:31:38
So, hold on.  The British pay upkeep on their royalty, yeah?  Like, keeping all the windows clean on all those palaces and whatnot?  But if the royals actually disagree, they get thrown out of power?

 ???
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 13:34:40
That may very well be the case, it just seemed that the power was still there in theory.  Interesting all the same.
I gather that it is legally, in theory.  But as mentioned earlier, if it were ever exercised in a way inconsistent with Parliament's wishes, the consequences would likely be the end of the monarchy.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 13:35:33
So, hold on.  The British pay upkeep on their royalty, yeah?  Like, keeping all the windows clean on all those palaces and whatnot?  But if the royals actually disagree, they get thrown out of power?

 ???

That's democracy for you.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 16 February 2011, 13:36:38
An independent Air Force is perfectly congruent with the Constitution's "land and sea forces" as well as a literal interpretation of the Bible.  Did you not read in Genesis how the waters of the sky were separated from the waters of the earth?  Bingo, USAF=firmament-forces.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 13:38:28
That's democracy for you.
Better than that, it's constitutional monarchy!  The best type of monarchy!  [rockon]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 13:43:31
Since neither Patrick Henry (he "smelled a rat") nor Thomas Jefferson (then ambassador to France) participated in drafting the Constitution, and Ben Franklin was over 80, I'd throw in with LeMay.
If we were talking a physical fight, then you would be well advised to do so, but we're not.  Everyone knows Franklin's participation in the Constitutional Convention, but TJ and Patrick Henry were both indirectly able to influence the decisions made by the official delegates.  To say neither of them were signators of the Constitution is correct, but to say that they played no role in the drafting of that document is incorrect.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 13:48:49
If we were talking a physical fight, then you would be well advised to do so, but we're not.  Everyone knows Franklin's participation in the Constitutional Convention, but TJ and Patrick Henry were both indirectly able to influence the decisions made by the official delegates.  To say neither of them were signators of the Constitution is correct, but to say that they played no role in the drafting of that document is incorrect.
OK, but I want it on record that it was you who called some of the US's founding fathers shadowy agents influencing the outcome of the Constitution to their own ends...  :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 13:53:54
An independent Air Force is perfectly congruent with the Constitution's "land and sea forces" as well as a literal interpretation of the Bible.  Did you not read in Genesis how the waters of the sky were separated from the waters of the earth?  Bingo, USAF=firmament-forces.
Ahh, but you do err, not knowing the Scriptures.  Each was commanded to bring forth after their own kind, with the beasts of the field and the beasts of the sea doing just that.  Even those that walk upon both the shore and the seas were represented, as God commanded to let the waters come this far, and no farther and, seeing the Teufelhund, He called it good.  The powers and principalities of the air, however, have always been known to be part of the Kingdom of darkness and alloted a portion with the powers of Darkness.  The Princes of the air, following their leader LeMay, left their first estate and turned their back upon the light, and were corrupted.

Hence, USAF = Forces of Evil.   :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 16 February 2011, 13:55:32
OK, but I want it on record that it was you who called some of the US's founding fathers shadowy agents influencing the outcome of the Constitution to their own ends...  :D
That they influenced the outcome is not debated.  It was not to for their own ends, however.   :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 13:58:53
Ahh, but you do err, not knowing the Scriptures.  Each was commanded to bring forth after their own kind, with the beasts of the field and the beasts of the sea doing just that.  Even those that walk upon both the shore and the seas were represented, as God commanded to let the waters come this far, and no farther and, seeing the Teufelhund, He called it good.  The powers and principalities of the air, however, have always been known to be part of the Kingdom of darkness and alloted a portion with the powers of Darkness.  The Princes of the air, following their leader LeMay, left their first estate and turned their back upon the light, and were corrupted.

Hence, USAF = Forces of Evil.   :P
Well, that would explain the Decepticon-like USAF symbol...  :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 16 February 2011, 14:14:19
A history professor whom I greatly respect, and who specializes in Britain, once told me that if the Royal Family ever tried to actually assert power (refusing to grant Royal Assent was his specific example, IIRC) the consequences would be....drastic.  As in their removal from power.

That is basically my understanding: the Queen (not the rest of the Royal Family) has power... so long as she doesn't try to use it  :D

Our system allows things to be dropped (like Grand Juries) if they go out of vogue or become outdated without it needing a massive constitutional re-write

Going back a bit more, a friend of mine who is a Lt Cmdr in the RN would rather like to see the RAF dissolved and it's duties split between the RN and army... but that may be because he is facing a Navy that will have aircraft carriers with no aircraft for a while other than helicopters, and when they do get aircraft they will be F-35s

Finally, I assume that the reason the USMC is anti-A10 is due to the lack of need with their Cobras and F-18s as the A-10 was designed to fly over Germany (briefly) killing Soviet tanks (briefly) before dying (explosively) whereas the Marines role was different and more likely to be amphibious in the Cold War
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 16 February 2011, 15:05:04
Fool!  Franklin held Zeus-like mastery of the mysterious forces of electricity.  He would smite Iron Ass with bolts from the sky.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 15:07:26
Going back a bit more, a friend of mine who is a Lt Cmdr in the RN would rather like to see the RAF dissolved and it's duties split between the RN and army... but that may be because he is facing a Navy that will have aircraft carriers with no aircraft for a while other than helicopters, and when they do get aircraft they will be F-35s

Yes, that was the hope of Beatty and then Chatfield in the 1920s and '30s as well.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 16 February 2011, 19:16:16
Yes, that was the hope of Beatty and then Chatfield in the 1920s and '30s as well.

So for a Navy man he is quite progressive
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 19:19:00
So for a Navy man he is quite progressive

It's pretty understandable. It doesn't take very long for a fighting service to lose the skills it needs to maintain a branch it temporarily doesn't have.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 16 February 2011, 19:47:55
Finally, I assume that the reason the USMC is anti-A10 is due to the lack of need with their Cobras and F-18s as the A-10 was designed to fly over Germany (briefly) killing Soviet tanks (briefly) before dying (explosively) whereas the Marines role was different and more likely to be amphibious in the Cold War
...and neatly sidestepping service bashing and Constitutional debates Dan allows me to come full circle without quoting something four pages ago.  Much like in the Single Battle Concept where an action in one part of the battlefield affects other parts of the battlefield acquisitions often have the same considerations.  Now, I'm not speaking for my service because I frankly don't know; I'm just glad.  The USMC can put two 3000' (I think) expeditionary airfields and if I'm remembering CMC's comments from earlier this/last week 90% of airfields in the world are roughly that length.  I don't know what the A-10's S/VTOL capability is.  Also, you've to consider commonality with the USN, the ability to fly off existing shipping, and what was available at the time of procurement.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 16 February 2011, 21:52:10
I think it can operate from 3000ft. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 23:15:58
That is basically my understanding: the Queen (not the rest of the Royal Family) has power... so long as she doesn't try to use it  :D

Our system allows things to be dropped (like Grand Juries) if they go out of vogue or become outdated without it needing a massive constitutional re-write

See?  Again, the awesomeness of the constitutional monarchy!   [rockon]

Going back a bit more, a friend of mine who is a Lt Cmdr in the RN would rather like to see the RAF dissolved and it's duties split between the RN and army... but that may be because he is facing a Navy that will have aircraft carriers with no aircraft for a while other than helicopters, and when they do get aircraft they will be F-35s

"Your feeble and fuel-inefficient modes of transportation are no match for the F-35, which will destroy all."

Finally, I assume that the reason the USMC is anti-A10 is due to the lack of need with their Cobras and F-18s as the A-10 was designed to fly over Germany (briefly) killing Soviet tanks (briefly) before dying (explosively) whereas the Marines role was different and more likely to be amphibious in the Cold War
This is a good point to remember.  The A-10 is one of those holdovers from the Cold War.  It had a role in the global strategy of the US then; it (along with a lot of other hardware) may not fit well with the strategic needs of the 21st century.  Which is why we need the F-35..."the consumer of planets...the bringer of despair...the F-35 cannot be stopped...surrender and the F-35 will destroy you peacefully!"
 ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 16 February 2011, 23:34:00
It's funny... After all those FCCW books, I just realize seeing the FedCom insignia next to something makes me automatically assume everything next to it will be about a non-viable government collapsing in on itself.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 23:46:56
It's funny... After all those FCCW books, I just realize seeing the FedCom insignia next to something makes me automatically assume everything next to it will be about a non-viable government collapsing in on itself.
Are you denying the awesomeness of constitutional monarchy, or doubting the glory of the REGIS Mark V F-35?  :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 16 February 2011, 23:47:57
I feel like the joke grows more tired by the post.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 16 February 2011, 23:52:24
OK, ok, sorry, I'll stop...I'm stressed, and bad jokes help me deal with it, thus my tendency to drag them out much to far.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 17 February 2011, 00:02:21
Are you denying the awesomeness of constitutional monarchy, or doubting the glory of the F-35?  :D

Probably both, but also reflecting on a pattern in sourcebooks: if on a page you see a FC symbol, prepare for some fail.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 17 February 2011, 00:24:08
Are we done blathering yet, or should I stay away for another day?

Cuz, y'know, I'm flexible like that.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 17 February 2011, 14:01:22
It's funny... After all those FCCW books, I just realize seeing the FedCom insignia next to something makes me automatically assume everything next to it will be about a non-viable government collapsing in on itself.

Oddly was just reading about the failure of Belgium to form a government for, 252 days.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 17 February 2011, 14:02:05
Oddly was just reading about the failure of Belgium to form a government for, 252 days.
That's still going on?  Wow...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 17 February 2011, 14:02:59
Poor old Belgium. I hope they don't split. Walloons are too silly-sounding to have their own country.

This week at work has proven interminable! It just does not want to end.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 17 February 2011, 14:17:35
I'm fairly sure I don't understand the need for seperate branches of the military to begin with. It doesn't make much sense.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 17 February 2011, 14:21:49
From what I've heard, if Belgium splits, the Waloons with simply merge with France and once again earning comparison from CBT players to Rasalhague.

I hope they stick together. I've got nothing against France, but when I visit my grandmother, I want to be visiting Belgium, and leave France for visiting my aunt.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 17 February 2011, 14:26:40
I'm fairly sure I don't understand the need for seperate branches of the military to begin with. It doesn't make much sense.

The need comes from the means each force Land/Sea/Air fights and the methids and traditions that evolve around them. Now there is some cross over that you may be able to work togeater on , or even elimate if you where starting from scratch. But most contries rember all the problems Canada went through in the '70 where we had infantry Sgt. put on ships, in jobs they had no training for.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 17 February 2011, 14:28:29
No, see, I know why you have seperate specialties, but in the current iteration of the US Armed Forces we literally have three or four seperate logistical and procurement trains to staff and funnel money through. I don't see why everything behind the warfighters has to be duplicated to a ne'er thee well...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 17 February 2011, 14:33:43
My guess is that in theory, it helps to have rear-echelon personnel to be familiar with the needs and traditions of the service they'll be supporting. A logistics dude with Navy training and background is probably better at knowing what Navy units need, versus a guy with an Army background, or a completely undifferentiated background.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 17 February 2011, 14:41:24
I think it has to do with there affraid that it will go as far as it did up here.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 17 February 2011, 15:30:56
Never quite got what they did with the Canadian Armed Forces.  Besides nobody would dare try merging all of ours, the outcry would be immense.

As it is any claim by the Conservative party to be a friend of our armed forces looks hollower by the day.  Aircraft carriers with no planes for crying out loud.  Makes me mad what a mess every respective government of my country has made of defending it.  But hey as long as BAE is still getting big contracts nobody does anything.

Sorry sore point with me.  I'm a pretty left wing kinda chap, except on matters relating to defence.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: fltadm on 17 February 2011, 16:05:43
Never quite got what they did with the Canadian Armed Forces. 

Long Story short, is that the MND at the time relized there was a lot of overlap, for example why did the RCAF and the Army both have people buying diffrent light truck to do the same job and diffrent macanics fixing them.  So he figured that the best way to fix it was make them all one. However he forgot all about the history and traditions that are the bread and butter of any military force. The Main Combat components amnaged to hang on to some things but the Service corps the EMEs realy lost out for a long time  and only started to get back in the '80s
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 17 February 2011, 16:13:47
Oddly was just reading about the failure of Belgium to form a government for, 252 days.

Apparently they are racing the Iraqis to see who can manage for longer

Poor old Belgium. I hope they don't split. Walloons are too silly-sounding to have their own country.

This week at work has proven interminable! It just does not want to end.

My week too but I think I'm trying to fit too much in: last night saw an evening trip to Ikea and this evening I stayed 3 hours late at work

I'm pooped and had Monday and Tuesday off as I worked the weekend too
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 17 February 2011, 17:03:21
No, see, I know why you have seperate specialties, but in the current iteration of the US Armed Forces we literally have three or four seperate logistical and procurement trains to staff and funnel money through. I don't see why everything behind the warfighters has to be duplicated to a ne'er thee well...
Just curious Doug,
I don't know your background, have you served in the military?

As for my own experience with the supply systems: is there inefficiency?  Yes.  Is there redundancy?  Yes, lots.  Could they do a better job, of course.  But the overall US government supply system is fairly well streamlined and universal.  Supplies all across the government agencies use the same code system, everything has its own assigned "National Stock Number," which is something like 15 digits IIRC.  It's amazing what's in there.  As an aside there is an NSN for a pallet of cash, don't remember how much though, it weighted something like 1000 lb.

At any rate the big differences in each service's supply systems involves needs, understanding and transport, but at the big picture level, everything is "joint"  and coordinated.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 17 February 2011, 17:09:26
Yes, it's very unlikely the monarch would win in a contest with parliament, and trying conclusions with them would likely lead to the end of the monarchy and the establishment of (gag) a republic.

It's not as unlikely as you might think. While I wouldn't call it a hotbed of ardent royalist fevour, the military is one of the most tradional and royalist blocks left. The body of statutes governing both Parliament and the Monarch was set up during the reformation specifically to cancel each other out and maintain a balance of power. The whole idea being that neither side could dominate and thus create a tyranny. Thus avoiding civil war reruns with absolutist monarchs or repulican dictators.

Seems to have worked so far.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 17 February 2011, 17:13:50

Going back a bit more, a friend of mine who is a Lt Cmdr in the RN would rather like to see the RAF dissolved and it's duties split between the RN and army... but that may be because he is facing a Navy that will have aircraft carriers with no aircraft for a while other than helicopters, and when they do get aircraft they will be F-35s

Typical fish-head.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 17 February 2011, 17:14:55
Typical fish-head.

Did the RAF cover the dual-control era at all at Cranwell, out of curiosity?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 17 February 2011, 17:23:18
Yes, it was in the syllabus, but not in depth. Most of our deep background studies focused on the formation of the RAF and later the creation of the FAA and also the AAC from the Glider Pilot Regiment and AOP sqn's.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 17 February 2011, 17:41:55
See, I don't know much, as my family's been mostly low-level, outside-looking-in types. My experience has all been second hand, hence the "I don't understand". From what I do understand, however, the biggest waste is really in procurement. Not in the sense of "We need some hammers." but in the fact that the services have long got into pissing matches over their equipment. It seems sensible, to me at least, to have for instance a "navalized" plane akin to the big F-4 love feast of the 60s/70s. Now, I'm no engineer, or military guy, and I don't know the specifics, but it would seem to me that going with a navalized F-15 with 90% commonality in parts would be more efficient than having the seperate F-14 with maybe 10%. In this age of spending cuts and frugality, I like the concept of the F-35, but it seems kinda doomed to fail.

(For those of you worried I favor the USAF over The Navy, I'd have opted for the F-18 over the F-16. I'm a two-engine guy...)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 17 February 2011, 17:47:05
Well, there are often hidden requirements that make fighters ideal for land service sub-optimal for afloat operations (the Seafire, the ME 109T, and early Corsairs would all be examples from my years of interest) but in general I agree.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 17 February 2011, 17:48:04
See, I don't know much, as my family's been mostly low-level, outside-looking-in types. My experience has all been second hand, hence the "I don't understand". From what I do understand, however, the biggest waste is really in procurement. Not in the sense of "We need some hammers." but in the fact that the services have long got into pissing matches over their equipment. It seems sensible, to me at least, to have for instance a "navalized" plane akin to the big F-4 love feast of the 60s/70s. Now, I'm no engineer, or military guy, and I don't know the specifics, but it would seem to me that going with a navalized F-15 with 90% commonality in parts would be more efficient than having the seperate F-14 with maybe 10%. In this age of spending cuts and frugality, I like the concept of the F-35, but it seems kinda doomed to fail.

(For those of you worried I favor the USAF over The Navy, I'd have opted for the F-18 over the F-16. I'm a two-engine guy...)

What part of the F-35 don't you like? (from this point of view)

Aside from that you have both the USMC and US Army sharing artillery and MBT systems, the SeaHawk/BlackHawk helicopter family and V-22

I think it will get silly when the US Army starts building its own SSBNs but until then I think there is reasonable commonality in most of our modern miltiaries and before that the equipment lacked the capability to multi-task or there was the Cold War budget for everyone to have a bespoke weapon of war

Yours

Someone even further removed from the US Military than you
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 17 February 2011, 18:20:00
I don't like the procurement process. Other than that, the F-35 seems to be a pretty spiffy fighter, and a capable one at that. Well suited for it's role in the traditional USAF/USN "High low" mix in the low role.

I'm looking backwards, I'm a historian, so I'm really looking at the mess of the 80s-90s, and I think Gates has done some good work in this area, far more than his predecessors, but I'd hate to see it undone too.

The Blackhawk is a triumph, IMO, of interservice cooperation. I'd just like to see more.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 17 February 2011, 20:18:43
Man, I HATE booger flaps!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 17 February 2011, 21:30:22
See, I don't know much, as my family's been mostly low-level, outside-looking-in types. My experience has all been second hand, hence the "I don't understand". From what I do understand, however, the biggest waste is really in procurement. Not in the sense of "We need some hammers." but in the fact that the services have long got into pissing matches over their equipment. It seems sensible, to me at least, to have for instance a "navalized" plane akin to the big F-4 love feast of the 60s/70s. Now, I'm no engineer, or military guy, and I don't know the specifics, but it would seem to me that going with a navalized F-15 with 90% commonality in parts would be more efficient than having the seperate F-14 with maybe 10%. In this age of spending cuts and frugality, I like the concept of the F-35, but it seems kinda doomed to fail.

(For those of you worried I favor the USAF over The Navy, I'd have opted for the F-18 over the F-16. I'm a two-engine guy...)

You have some very valid points there Doug, especially when it comes to inter-service rivalry.  And there is a lot of waste, I think procurement gets most of the blame but there is plenty to go around in all areas. 

I believe Doctor Monkey is correct is saying that a lot of programs are shared, the F-35, being just the latest.  As for a navalized F-15, it really is the other way around, it's relatively easy to make a naval plane work for the USAF, assuming they'd buy it, but it is very difficult to navalize a USAF plane.  Steam catapults put more stress on USN planes than traps on a carrier deck.  The USAF does not design their planes to handle those kind of stresses, or deal with the corrosion.  One of the things that make the F-35 more feasible as a joint fighter is the new electromagnetic catapult the USN has developed, its design is essentially finished.  That piece of equipment will drastically reduce the stresses put on the plane during a catapult launch.

The F-35 is a major step forward in a joint fighter program, they don't call it the Joint Fighter for nothing, but it's not the first attempt.  The F-111/F-14 is the horror story most people cite when they predict the demise of the F-35.  But the 10% of parts that aren't common among the F-35 variants are, with the exception of the USMC variant and its hover fan, all air frame related.  These days that's the cheap part.  And I don't think the F-35 program will be canceled.  I be very surprised if it was, there is just too much at stake.  And they've got it into initial low rate production so it's past what some consider the point of no return.   

One thing we can't go into detail on in public is the procurement rules.  Those rules were created for a good reason but they do drive up costs.

There's an old axiom about military procurement: cheap, fast, good, pick any 2.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 17 February 2011, 21:31:01
Well, there are often hidden requirements that make fighters ideal for land service sub-optimal for afloat operations (the Seafire, the ME 109T, and early Corsairs would all be examples from my years of interest) but in general I agree.
That's long been a problem.

Apparently, in the early 90's, a Navalized F-15E was considered for replacing the A-6E in the attack squadrons.  It was seen not to be a good idea because the changes in landing gear mean the payload would have been reduced to far too low of a level to be useful.

On the other hand, one of the reasons to keep separate armed forces around is the rivalry can be a good thing.  The different ideas when looking a problems are nifty (Defense Threat Reduction Agency performs inspections of nucweaps capable units, and has officers and men from all branches), and the reminder that You are better than Those Guys in different uniforms is always a plus.

And I get to rub it in to blue-suiters that I do the job they say requires an officer.  8)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 17 February 2011, 21:39:32
What annoys me is when the Army and Marines do the same job with different branding.  I don't mean to anger the Marines hear, but, IIRC the Marine Corps got its start as, essentially, shipboard security and security for naval bases (so, I guess you could say glorified MPs, again meaning no offense).  From there they branched out into ambhibious ops.  I'm cool with that.  But why are there Marines in Afghanistan?  The place is landlocked.  The answer, basically, is because these days the Army and Marines do a lot of the same missions in different ways.  The Marines are seen as the quick strike, point of the spear, kill-it-yesterday force, were the Army is more about taking and holding, large scale invasions and the like.  At least that's what I gathered from my Army time.  My problem is that both of those are land ops, there's nothing 'marine' (little m) about them.  But the Marines have a rep for being badass, so they get sent in places that oughta be (IMHO) the Army's job.  Another thing:  why do the Marines need Abramses?  They aren't exactly (to my knowledge) amphibious.  I can see LVTs and the like for Marine armor, but Main Battle Tanks?  If someone can explain that, please do.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 17 February 2011, 22:13:25
AW:  you're essentially right on the origin of the Marines:  armed and disciplined troops the Navy could use for security of both facilities, and aboard ships, and a boarding/landing parties.   The last traditional shipboard Marine Detachments went out around 1991, when the Iowas were decommed, and they were withdrawn from carriers shortly thereafter.  However, there are a few bases with active Marine Security Force units on board.  Primarily, NBK Bangor and NSB King's Bay.

As for the tanks, because sometimes, you need to have your own BFG right here and now, as I understand it.  And in World War II, the Marines needed organic armor assets when dealing with strong points on Japanese held islands.  Also, it's a far lower force mix of tanks/grunts for the Corps.  I think it's what-one battalion per division?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 17 February 2011, 22:18:45
I know the Marines only have a few hundred of the US's total six thousandish.  Seems to me though, that you could get something akin to an MGS Stryker that's also amphibious that would work just as well these days.  Then again, that also has to do with the threats we're facing currently.  In a real shooting war with a serious foe, I guess I can see it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 17 February 2011, 23:07:26
And I get to rub it in to blue-suiters that I do the job they say requires an officer.  8)

Of course, the other way of looking at it is, you're being paid less to do the same job. :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 17 February 2011, 23:29:21
Defense Threat Reduction Agency performs inspections of nucweaps capable units, and has officers and men from all branches.
Yea, a lot of agencies are like that.  When I did my shore duty when I was on active duty I was assigned to Naval School Explosive Ordnance Disposal in Indian Head MD.  The EOD has a joint service training organization, all 4 services contribute personnel and all 4 send there want-to-be EOD techs there for their initial training.  I don't know how it is these days, I doubt things have changed given how hard those guys have been hit between Iraq and Afghanistan but they were a tight knit group back then.  There was a lot of inter-service rivalry within but it seemed like there was a lot of us vs. them attitude towards non-EOD types.  Of course they were treated like the illegitimate redheaded step child back then, they usually are when they're not needed.  They really didn't get what they needed until the IED war started in Iraq.

As for amphibious vehicles, US Army amphibious capable is not USMC amphibious capable.  The Stryker would get swamped in surf the Marines are expected to work in. 

Another point for the USMC is there expeditionary nature, first in and last out and all that.  The move fast and travel light.  They've also been America's primary expeditionary force doing counter insurgency operations for well over 100 years.  There was a time when the US Army left it to them completely.  And yet another point in there favor is they do a lot more with a lot less than the other services.  Granted they don't pay for a lot of weapons development if another service already has what they need, but part of that is that they are a lot more practical than the other services.  At least they were up until they decided they couldn't live without the V-22 and there amphibious expeditionary vehicle that finally got the ax.

As I understand things the leadership of the USMC wants to get back to its core mission of expeditionary warfare from across the beach so I think they see that they've strayed a bit off course.  Perhaps they're a little embarrassed that the USN has stood up a couple of riverine units and people were calling them naval infantry.  But when the prez tells you to pay someone a visit you do what you're told.


Every service has its purpose, some have more than others.  I'd put the USMC at the top of the list of multi-taskers in the US DoD.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 17 February 2011, 23:30:51
Saving the taxpayer some money here, BA.

Besides, I need all the positive reasons to stay sane at work possible right now.  I'm stuck in a never ending cycle that is driving all of us crazy at work. [tickedoff]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Demon55 on 17 February 2011, 23:38:57
Why does the AFFS like autocannon equipped mechs so much?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 17 February 2011, 23:43:38
Err, wrong thread, Demon55.  You might want to try our thread in the Successor States board.

V/R
nerd
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 17 February 2011, 23:46:01
As for amphibious vehicles, US Army amphibious capable is not USMC amphibious capable.  The Stryker would get swamped in surf the Marines are expected to work in. 
Didn't mean to suggest it was.  I meant that the Marines ought to invest in something roughly comparable to the M1128, but with added amphibious capability.  Perhaps something like the now-cancelled EFV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expeditionary_Fighting_Vehicle), though I was thinking of more armor and a bigger gun instead of seating for a family of 17.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 18 February 2011, 00:04:38
The USMC is looking around for a replacement for its LAV-20 vehicles, which the Stryker basically is.  What there looking at from what I understand is basically 8x8 very similar to the LAV-20 but probably with electric drive, and certainly built to withstand mine blasts like the MRAPs.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 18 February 2011, 01:55:06
What annoys me is when the Army and Marines do the same job with different branding.  I don't mean to anger the Marines hear, but, IIRC the Marine Corps got its start as, essentially, shipboard security and security for naval bases (so, I guess you could say glorified MPs, again meaning no offense).  From there they branched out into ambhibious ops.  I'm cool with that.  But why are there Marines in Afghanistan?  The place is landlocked.  The answer, basically, is because these days the Army and Marines do a lot of the same missions in different ways.  The Marines are seen as the quick strike, point of the spear, kill-it-yesterday force, were the Army is more about taking and holding, large scale invasions and the like.  At least that's what I gathered from my Army time.  My problem is that both of those are land ops, there's nothing 'marine' (little m) about them.  But the Marines have a rep for being badass, so they get sent in places that oughta be (IMHO) the Army's job.  Another thing:  why do the Marines need Abramses?  They aren't exactly (to my knowledge) amphibious.  I can see LVTs and the like for Marine armor, but Main Battle Tanks?  If someone can explain that, please do.
Well, you kinda answered your own question there, at least the "why are there Marines in Afghanistan?" part.  I  gather the US's increased use of the USMC more like a regular army rather than their more traditional specialized roles is controversial in some circles.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 18 February 2011, 02:11:23
Didn't mean to suggest it was.  I meant that the Marines ought to invest in something roughly comparable to the M1128, but with added amphibious capability.  Perhaps something like the now-cancelled EFV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expeditionary_Fighting_Vehicle), though I was thinking of more armor and a bigger gun instead of seating for a family of 17.
They cancelled the EFV? WTF for? That was one awesome vehicle. 20+ knots in the water, good road speed on land and the cannon no slouch and improvement on what they currently have. I can only assume it was a cost issue. Now the Marines are forced to use extrememly outdated equipment for another 14 years..
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 18 February 2011, 04:30:21
Always annoying seeing something promising cancelled.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 18 February 2011, 10:15:13
Always annoying seeing something promising cancelled.
Speaking of which, I expect every one of you wankers to buy not one but two copies of the House Liao Handbook.  If House Kurita never sees light of day I'll die a little inside.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 18 February 2011, 10:16:48
Speaking of which, I expect every one of you wankers to buy not one but two copies of the House Liao Handbook.  If House Kurita never sees light of day I'll die a little inside.

We won't be held responsible for the fact that only eight guys like House Liao. We're not the ones who assumed four vocal posters equaled a viable fanbase.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 18 February 2011, 10:18:16
Speaking of which, I expect every one of you wankers to buy not one but two copies of the House Liao Handbook.  If House Kurita never sees light of day I'll die a little inside.
That would expensive kindling for the fire.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 18 February 2011, 10:40:04
What'd be really nice would be for the DCMS to gain a real/vocal fanbase. A lot more room for ciolness, IMO within the Combine than the CapCon.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 18 February 2011, 10:44:32
What'd be really nice would be for the DCMS to gain a real/vocal fanbase. A lot more room for ciolness, IMO within the Combine than the CapCon.

I agree. I much prefer them as an enemy faction; more nuance.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 18 February 2011, 10:47:31
Speaking of which, I expect every one of you wankers to buy not one but two copies of the House Liao Handbook.  If House Kurita never sees light of day I'll die a little inside.

Put me down for 12.

We won't be held responsible for the fact that only eight guys like House Liao. We're not the ones who assumed four vocal posters equaled a viable fanbase.

I'll viable your fanbase, pal.  *shakes a fist*
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 18 February 2011, 10:48:22
I'll viable your fanbase, pal.  *shakes a fist*

I'm really going to enjoy you as KuritaFan.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 18 February 2011, 11:04:09
We won't be held responsible for the fact that only eight guys like House Liao. We're not the ones who assumed four vocal posters equaled a viable fanbase.
Nor were you the brain trust that placed Liao ahead of Kurita in the queue, nevertheless an ululation of "I got me mine" is unbecoming.

I'll confess I actually have high hopes for the HLHB.  The original House Liao sourcebook has become my favorite of the old mainstays.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 18 February 2011, 11:13:28
Nor were you the brain trust that placed Liao ahead of Kurita in the queue, nevertheless an ululation of "I got me mine" is unbecoming.

I'll confess I actually have high hopes for the HLHB.  The original House Liao sourcebook has become my favorite of the old mainstays.
Honestly Neko, I'm almost afraid to see what the HLHB and HKHB will be like.  Not because the PTB will put out an inferior or unbalanced product, but because no matter what happens, there will be some fans who will never be happy.  The PTB could, literally, put out five brand new products, with the only difference being a name change and there would be a core of fans who would complain about power creep and how certain factions were unbalanced.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 18 February 2011, 11:54:50
A history professor whom I greatly respect, and who specializes in Britain, once told me that if the Royal Family ever tried to actually assert power (refusing to grant Royal Assent was his specific example, IIRC) the consequences would be....drastic.  As in their removal from power.

They already tried that, back in the late 1600's....resulted in a few messy battles, Chuck II losing his head, and having some dude name Cromwell taking power....

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 18 February 2011, 12:32:58
Honestly Neko, I'm almost afraid to see what the HLHB and HKHB will be like.  Not because the PTB will put out an inferior or unbalanced product, but because no matter what happens, there will be some fans who will never be happy.

I would just like a good read.  One of the things that hit me about the old HLSB was that it read like subtle propaganda.  Very "Glorious People's Republic".  I mean, let's face it, the unbalancing happened in the novels, not the sourcebooks (okay, yeah, the Confederation was pretty screwed over by the time ink hit paper, but what do you want, really?), so you can't hate one over the other.

I'm really going to enjoy you as KuritaFan.

If I'm ever KuritaFan, dude, you'd have to face me while NEKO'S IN MY CORNER.

You don't want that.  Time to recant, good sir.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 18 February 2011, 12:43:15
If I'm ever KuritaFan, dude, you'd have to face me while NEKO'S IN MY CORNER.


Bah, separate Master and Blaster and they both fall.

Guess which one you are. Go on, guess.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 18 February 2011, 12:47:18
Bah, separate Master and Blaster and they both fall.

Guess which one you are. Go on, guess.
Who runs Barter Town? Hanse runs Barter Town!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 18 February 2011, 12:57:50
They cancelled the EFV? WTF for?

The thing was an overpriced over complicated POS with a average breakdown rate of about 5 hours.  The thing was to cost around $20million each, in comparison an M1 cost around $6million and a Stryker around $2million.  The DoD has announced its cancellation but Congress of course gets the last word...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 18 February 2011, 12:59:59
Well, the navy's already getting destroyers they don't want and have stated are not properly protected because they're built in important districts, so why shouldn't the marines share in the fun?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 18 February 2011, 13:05:29
Guess which one you are. Go on, guess.

So, by your analogy, either I'm the stone-crushing brute force, or I'm the brain behind the two of us.  I can't imagine trying to out-wit the guy, after talking to him on a number of occasions.  I guess that makes me Blaster. 

Honestly, either or, though.  And if I have the Coordinator's back (Ha!  They'd let an ex-pat Capellan behind ANYONE of note?  I think not!), then I do believe Neko's got mine.  So long as we can send the Little Yellow Bird Stellar-South for the Winter.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 18 February 2011, 13:07:07
Well, the navy's already getting destroyers they don't want and have stated are not properly protected because they're built in important districts, so why shouldn't the marines share in the fun?
Speaking of getting what you don't want, let us not forget the F35's second engine option.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 18 February 2011, 13:11:28
Speaking of getting what you don't want, let us not forget the F35's second engine option.

That got killed! I was very happy, even though it meant less work for Rolls-Royce.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 18 February 2011, 13:17:02
Doesn't the Senate have something to say? Or did that happen today?
Looks like Pratt is the only game in town...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 18 February 2011, 13:18:11
Doesn't the Senate have something to say? Or did that happen today?


Oh, that could be, I may have spoken too soon. But! High hopes! And low expectations.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 18 February 2011, 13:41:11
Deleting the second engine could cost billions in the long run.  GAO estimates competing the PW F100/GE F110 engines annually saved taxpayers billions over the last 20 years.  Given the amount of engines to be built for the F-35 over its lifetime I think it's a big mistake to cancel the second option.  It's a case of pay me now or pay me later.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 18 February 2011, 16:11:44
Speaking of which, I expect every one of you wankers to buy not one but two copies of the House Liao Handbook.  If House Kurita never sees light of day I'll die a little inside.
I could have used HBHK about 2 years ago - when I was running a Jihad-era game in the Combine, and had to cut and past excerpts from HKSB with my notes on how I think things have changed regarding Corporations, Bureaucracy, Mandatory 16 hour work days for the entire population, and women's role in society.
I'm really glad that the MW4 system is easily backwards compatible to MW3 though.  Since the Steiner, Davion, Marik, the Periphery and the Clans are all in 3ed while Kurita and Liao will be in 4th.  Would it really be too much to ask for a series of books covering all the major factions all be written in the same edition?  The original SB series is the only one that did - and that's because it has no game systemics.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 18 February 2011, 18:08:14
Blah, what a couple days.

I've managed to suck it up on a couple of tests (I suspect...haven't gotten them back yet), fix up my apartment for wireless internet, put Ubuntu on a lap top, get assaulted with a soap brush at a car wash, and spent the last few hours practically in a coma after falling asleep while watching a movie.  I sure do hope tomorrow is nice outside because I need to get out.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 18 February 2011, 18:32:00
You know I like it down here...

So here's a thought.  In the last two pages of USMC comments don't you think I (you're resident Marine) might have chimed in if it wouldn't have constituted a written record of my opinion on political decisions and a violation of Rule #"whatever the prohibition on politics is".  I'd like to avoid the first and would rather the second didn't intrude down here.

Can we move on to something reasonably social and move the RL debate somewhere else?

S/F

Matt

PS - if you want an informed opinion, PM me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 18 February 2011, 19:08:59
You know I like it down here...

So here's a thought.  In the last two pages of USMC comments don't you think I (you're resident Marine) might have chimed in if it wouldn't have constituted a written record of my opinion on political decisions and a violation of Rule #"whatever the prohibition on politics is".  I'd like to avoid the first and would rather the second didn't intrude down here.

Can we move on to something reasonably social and move the RL debate somewhere else?

S/F

Matt

PS - if you want an informed opinion, PM me.

Any good movies coming out?  I'm excited about Thor, Battle: Los Angeles looks fun, but that's probably a wait for rental.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 18 February 2011, 19:14:58
They already tried that, back in the late 1600's....resulted in a few messy battles, Chuck II losing his head, and having some dude name Cromwell taking power....

Craig
It was Chuck I (aka Charles I) who lost his head.  And after Cromwell left this mortal realm, England tired of Puritans and invited Chuck II (Chuck I's son) back.  Then Chuck II died, and his brother Jimmy II just wasn't good enough for the English Whigs, who invited his daughter and son-in-law Mary II and Billy III to take the throne.  This didn't, however, set as well with the Irish, and Billy and Jimmy had a few nasty fights about it.  After Billy finally died, Jimmy's other daughter Annie took the throne, and after her the English had the good sense to quit with the Stuart family and get some proper Germans to run their country.

;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 18 February 2011, 19:18:21
Any good movies coming out?  I'm excited about Thor, Battle: Los Angeles looks fun, but that's probably a wait for rental.
You know for the first time I'd like to see at least two Oscar Nominated films:  The King's Speech and Black Swan.  Normally, I've no interest whatsoever but this time around I'm curious if the Academy got it right.

Thor holds some interest and I'm looking forward to Harry Potter wrapping up this summer.

S/F

Matt

Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 18 February 2011, 19:25:28
You know for the first time I'd like to see at least two Oscar Nominated films:  The King's Speech and Black Swan.  Normally, I've no interest whatsoever but this time around I'm curious if the Academy got it right.

Thor holds some interest and I'm looking forward to Harry Potter wrapping up this summer.

S/F

Matt

Black Swan is another one on my "watch" list.  I'll get around to it eventually.  I'd be a lot more willing to go to the movies if A) The theater around here wasn't suck and way overpriced and B) They'd stop with the 3D crap.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 18 February 2011, 19:27:11
Any good movies coming out?  I'm excited about Thor, Battle: Los Angeles looks fun, but that's probably a wait for rental.

Yeah, I think Thor will be a good Superhero flick but we won't know until it comes out of course. Definitely a must see on my list.

I just saw an ad for Battle:Los Angeles and it looks like it might be a decent popcorn flick. Lots of explosions, maybe some eye candy and a simple and direct storyline. I go in to movies mostly expecting them to be crap so I rarely get disappointed.

Also, I have heard mixed things about The Eagle. Not sure if I will see it but I might if I get bored. Oh, and I will probably see the third Transformers movie simply to see Optimus Prime take on Megatron and a dozen of his cronies. Michael Bay does know how to make lots of explosions and mindless "fun" but not much else in my opinion.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 18 February 2011, 19:30:42
Black Swan is another one on my "watch" list.  I'll get around to it eventually.  I'd be a lot more willing to go to the movies if A) The theater around here wasn't suck and way overpriced and B) They'd stop with the 3D crap.
I've not watched anything in 3D since Superman Returns in IMAX so I might be jaded on the concept.  Also, I try to go to the 1000am show because I'm lame enough to wake up before 0500 and nobody else goes to those shows.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 18 February 2011, 19:31:03
Black Swan is another one on my "watch" list.  I'll get around to it eventually.  I'd be a lot more willing to go to the movies if A) The theater around here wasn't suck and way overpriced and B) They'd stop with the 3D crap.

A) Yeah, I wouldn't normally go to the movies except that there is a theater in my town which sells movie tickets for just 2-3 bucks. Mind you, these are the movies that have been out for a couple of months now but at least I can see some of them on the big screen.

B) Agree with you there 100%.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 18 February 2011, 19:34:22
Yeah, I think Thor will be a good Superhero flick but we won't know until it comes out of course. Definitely a must see on my list.

I just saw an ad for Battle:Los Angeles and it looks like it might be a decent popcorn flick. Lots of explosions, maybe some eye candy and a simple and direct storyline. I go in to movies mostly expecting them to be crap so I rarely get disappointed.

Also, I have heard mixed things about The Eagle. Not sure if I will see it but I might if I get bored. Oh, and I will probably see the third Transformers movie simply to see Optimus Prime take on Megatron and a dozen of his cronies. Michael Bay does know how to make lots of explosions and mindless "fun" but not much else in my opinion.


I would have really liked the second Transformers movies if you took out all the human characters, and I'll probably see the third one after its out on BlueRay/DVD.  Fun fact: The last unit I was assigned to in the Army was chosen to help film the climatic battle scene.  If you pay attention to the Abrams you can see the 1st Armored triangle and the 2 CAB markings.  It was the second time Hollywood tapped my unit (because as a future combat systems testbed we didn't have anything better to do) the other time was extras for Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 18 February 2011, 19:36:28
I've not watched anything in 3D since Superman Returns in IMAX so I might be jaded on the concept.  Also, I try to go to the 1000am show because I'm lame enough to wake up before 0500 and nobody else goes to those shows.

S/F

Matt

Don't get me wrong.  I like 3D in a proper IMAX theater on the right film (and I'm nature and space documentaries here), but the faux-IMAX you get at most theaters and the fact that a lot of films aren't shot for 3-D, instead it's slap-dashed on in post-production, makes it annoying.
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Post by: GreenDragon on 18 February 2011, 19:37:25
I'm looking forward to seeing Narnia3, Tron2, and Green Hornet.  As soon as they are not in 3D.  I haven't been to the theater since Expendables because I refuse to pay overpriced ticket cost, plus overpriced glasses cost - each showing because you can't not pay for the glasses whether you want/need them or not - for a headache.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 18 February 2011, 19:42:44
Tron was a great flick, but the dark backgrounds with light foregrounds was disorienting enough for me.  I bet 3D would have been overwhelming.
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Post by: FedSunsBorn on 18 February 2011, 21:38:27

I would have really liked the second Transformers movies if you took out all the human characters, and I'll probably see the third one after its out on BlueRay/DVD.  Fun fact: The last unit I was assigned to in the Army was chosen to help film the climatic battle scene.  If you pay attention to the Abrams you can see the 1st Armored triangle and the 2 CAB markings.  It was the second time Hollywood tapped my unit (because as a future combat systems testbed we didn't have anything better to do) the other time was extras for Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull.

Definitely going to look for those markings the next time I watch Transformers2. That is just too cool even though it is a Michael Bay flick...at least Indiana Jones was pretty decent.

My sister saw Tron when it first came out and I will probably see it tomorrow now that my tests are finished for the week. Glad to hear that you liked it for the most part.

Oh, and I actually liked Narnia3 much more then I thought I would. I would actually put it above the second one which I thought was ok but not great.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 18 February 2011, 21:43:38
I go to see I am Number Four in an hour. The things I do for love...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 18 February 2011, 23:48:11
Oh, and I actually liked Narnia3 much more then I thought I would. I would actually put it above the second one which I thought was ok but not great.
I'd had this amertization dream about Dawn Treader that sadly didn't come to pass.  The production company had to aquire the ship(s), rent locations, etc.  All for one movie.  Meanwhile Ioun Gruffudd is looking for a new production company to pickup where A&E left off.  If they studio/production co. had picked up Hornblower, they could have deferred the costs over many movies.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 19 February 2011, 00:07:21
Black Swan is another one on my "watch" list.  I'll get around to it eventually.  I'd be a lot more willing to go to the movies if A) The theater around here wasn't suck and way overpriced and B) They'd stop with the 3D crap.
I'd say Black Swan is one of the only movies I've ever seen that I believe was worth seeing in the theater instead of waiting for the DVD. It's a real tour de force.

I go to see I am Number Four in an hour. The things I do for love...
Good luck with that. :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 19 February 2011, 00:09:19
My sister saw Tron when it first came out and I will probably see it tomorrow now that my tests are finished for the week. Glad to hear that you liked it for the most part.
I saw TRON...was a bit disappointed (would have been more disappointed had I paid full price).  Daft Punk is the best thing about the movie IMHO.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 01:15:29
Good luck with that. :P

It was horrible. We spent the evening loudly riffing on the movie like the ****** we are.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 19 February 2011, 02:24:12
It's okay to loudly mock a movie if it's stupid. The feelings of people with bad taste in movies don't matter. 8)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 19 February 2011, 02:39:12
I'd go further with that statement.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: VF1LAM on 19 February 2011, 04:59:38
Can someone please explain to me this the association between House Davion and Arby's?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 19 February 2011, 07:34:24
I think it's due to a post on the old boards.  A very amusing pastiche of a meeting by the Regent Yvonne held in a New Avalon branch of Arbys.  I must admit i've never heard of that restaurant chain before seeing it, but assume it's some American thing.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 19 February 2011, 07:55:17
It's equivalent to House Davion's Triple-F, which I believe is the grade of meat used in the sandwiches.

Since we're talking about what we watch---A few weeks ago I caught a full hour of prime-time TV for the first time in a long while.  The show was called Human Target, and though putatively an action-drama, it was actually a high-concept comedy.  Plot: a Russian beauty marries an American software nerd and is ordered by her handlers to kill him and steal his code.  Because she has fallen in love with him---against orders, no doubt---she repeatedly fails to kill him in more and more implausible ways.  Eventually the American spies appear to kill her, and the two are secreted away to live happily ever after in an utterly Shakespearean finale.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: VF1LAM on 19 February 2011, 08:43:43
Yes, Arby's is an American fast food chain, specializing in roast beef sandwiches.  While not quite as popular as McDonald's, they do have a reputation for slightly better food quality, due to their selection of lean meats.  I last had Arby's about 2-3 weeks ago with my folks.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 19 February 2011, 09:31:44
Oddly enough I hadn't eaten at Arby's in years, and a couple of weeks ago (actually about the same time I started reposting in this thread  :D) I found myself going there a couple of times.

I blame the coupons we had.  Or it could be Jungian synchronicity.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: VF1LAM on 19 February 2011, 09:52:57
^ Those "2 subs for 5 dollars" coupons really buy you a lot of good food.  I've also had the Reuben sandwich at Arby's a few times.  Back when I worked at Quality Gold in Fairfield (Ohio), they were one of the closest restaurants around, and so I went there maybe every other day for lunch.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 10:00:24
While not quite as popular as McDonald's, they do have a reputation for slightly better food quality, due to their selection of lean meats.

What? No they don't! I have no idea where you are man, but up here even the bums don't eat at Arby's.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 February 2011, 10:07:07
What? No they don't! I have no idea where you are man, but up here even he bums don't eat at Arby's.
Really, because the Market Fresh sandwiches are pretty tasty if you ask me.  It is the price point that bugs me.  The Wendy's/Arby's corporate combo ain't making it cheap.

Regarding your earlier comments on I Am # 4; I'd really wish Dianna Argon would find a decent role outside of Glee.  Maybe a guest stint on Castle.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 10:12:24
Regarding your earlier comments on I Am # 4; I'd really wish Dianna Argon would find a decent role outside of Glee.  Maybe a guest stint on Castle.

She was unfortunately incredibly wooden in the film, as was the rest of the cast; it was not unlike witnessing 110 minutes of ambulatory, barely emoting sequoias, sans the majesty.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 February 2011, 10:16:52
She was incredibly wooden in the film as was the rest of the cast; it was not unlike witnessing 110 minutes of ambulatory, barely emoting sequoias, sans the majesty.
I'm tempted to make a George Lucas directing joke but I'm nostalgic for Star Wars of late.  Too bad, the few glimpses of Glee I could stand I found her to be better than most.

Alright, time to go run off yesterday's pizza and wine.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 19 February 2011, 10:32:36

Regarding your earlier comments on I Am # 4; I'd really wish Dianna Argon would find a decent role outside of Glee.  Maybe a guest stint on Castle.

Right now, she's the only of thekids who is doing acting outside of Glee. Of course, the less I see of Lea Michele, the better my world is.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 19 February 2011, 10:46:45
I think it's due to a post on the old boards.  A very amusing pastiche of a meeting by the Regent Yvonne held in a New Avalon branch of Arbys.  I must admit i've never heard of that restaurant chain before seeing it, but assume it's some American thing.
I think it's older than that; the oldest Arby's-House Davion connection I can recall is that cartoon of Hanse putting Mad Max in a headlock while eating a roast beef sandwich. An Arby's sign towers in the background.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 19 February 2011, 10:48:29
Damn, all this Arby's-hateration. Arby's is the shazbot, folks, plain and simple. We used to drive almost a half hour when I lived in Pas because of the distance to the nearest franchise. So delicious. Sadly, it was usually the movie we saw afterwards that detracted from the experience (Matrix 2 and 3, anyone? Ugh!). Arby's is the best of the fast-food chains. Loves me some curly fries!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 10:49:05
I think it's older than that; the oldest Arby's-House Davion connection I can recall is that cartoon of Hanse putting Mad Max in a headlock while eating a roast beef sandwich. An Arby's sign towers in the background.

That was my inspiration for using Arby's, initially. I'm not sure where it came from, honestly. I think Jal Phoenix had something to do with it?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 19 February 2011, 10:49:26
I keep missing films I want to see on a big screen (mainly for the special effects) while the films out are ones I will probably catch on DVD (King's Speech, Black whatsit etc)... nevermind, I just need to be better organised!

I haven't tried an Arby's, it might need to be something to try next time I'm in the US, but I secretly quite enjoyed Taco Bell as a novelty
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 10:52:04
I secretly quite enjoyed Taco Bell as a novelty

Dear God...

My major fast food weakness is hot dog places. Oh man! So bad for you, but so good to eat.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: VF1LAM on 19 February 2011, 10:53:52
@3rdCrucisLancers:  Yes, I have seen the cartoon of Hanse putting Mad Max in a headlock while eating an Arby's sandwich. 

I guess youse guys in the (312) don't like Arby's?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 19 February 2011, 10:54:43
What? No they don't! I have no idea where you are man, but up here even the bums don't eat at Arby's.
WHaaaa?! I sir, am no bum! And I love the shit out of Arby's and their quasi-roast beef sandwiches and near-cheese topping.


Then again, I have never been accused of having a refined palete...
Carry on.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 19 February 2011, 10:59:28
Arby's has an atrocious reputation where I come from, but I don't think their food is that terrible. Taco Bell, on the other hand, I won't touch.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 11:03:19
I guess youse guys in the (312) don't like Arby's?

Well, there's that line from The Simpsons: "I'm so hungry, I could eat Arby's!"

WHaaaa?! I sir, am no bum! And I love the shit out of Arby's and their quasi-roast beef sandwiches and near-cheese topping.

Of course, whenever you say that, their partisans pop out of the woodwork. I think Sarcasmo's pro-Arby's argument is also the con for many people. In my case, however, my rule of thumb is that I try not to buy a premade food item that I can make better myself for less, and I make a mean sandwich, let me tell you!

Speaking of sandwiches, I've been dying to try and make a croque-madam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croque-monsieur).
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 19 February 2011, 11:07:15

Speaking of sandwiches, I've been dying to try and make a croque-madam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croque-monsieur).
Make two, that looks delicious.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 19 February 2011, 11:22:40
Well, there's that line from The Simpsons: "I'm so hungry, I could eat Arby's!"

Of course, whenever you say that, their partisans pop out of the woodwork. I think Sarcasmo's pro-Arby's argument is also the con for many people. In my case, however, my rule of thumb is that I try not to buy a premade food item that I can make better myself for less, and I make a mean sandwich, let me tell you!

Speaking of sandwiches, I've been dying to try and make a croque-madam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croque-monsieur).

Don't forget the Welsh Rarebit (nom nom nom)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 19 February 2011, 11:27:07
I'm guessing some of you don't spend the better part of your afternoons in a car inching homeward.  For a lot of us, Arby's is a way station and not a destination.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Drufause on 19 February 2011, 11:45:54
Make two, that looks delicious.
That does look good but I had never heard of it. Is Arby's getting it?

I'm guessing some of you don't spend the better part of your afternoons in a car inching homeward.  For a lot of us, Arby's is a way station and not a destination.

No Thankfully i live 1.5 miles from work and even during rush hour takes me less than 30 min to pickup food and get there.  It's also nice that i live within 2 blocks of downtown.  1 block away is a supermarket, 2 blocks away a Spanish restaurante, the best burger joint in town and my bank.  Some weekends my car does not even have a key put in it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 February 2011, 12:12:46
Speaking of sandwiches, I've been dying to try and make a croque-madam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croque-monsieur).
That does look good and the FoodNetwork recipe doesn't seem hard but I suspect I'd punt that last bit of broiling to get the cheese sauce browned/bubbling without ruining the whole thing.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 19 February 2011, 12:14:27
Arby's has an atrocious reputation where I come from, but I don't think their food is that terrible. Taco Bell, on the other hand, I won't touch.
I stay away fron Taco Hell's ground meat products. I only eat the items that have 'steak' or 'chicken' in them. Right now I'm a big fan of the Quad Steak burrito. It would be better if it weren't so expensive ($5 for just the burrito)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 19 February 2011, 12:20:26
At one point the quality of Arby's locally was so bad my dog wouldn't eat it.  And he was an organic vacuum cleaner.  I love their French Dips - something passably resembling a French Dip for $5.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: VF1LAM on 19 February 2011, 12:56:23
@3rdCrucisLancers:  I suspect most of us over the age of fourteen don't watch "The Simpsons" anymore.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 19 February 2011, 12:57:55
@3rdCrucisLancers:  I suspect most of us over the age of fourteen don't watch "The Simpsons" anymore.
I do, it makes me feel younger than my 46 years and I can empathize with Homer now more than ever.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 19 February 2011, 13:00:19
@3rdCrucisLancers:  I suspect most of us over the age of fourteen don't watch "The Simpsons" anymore.

I don't mainly because they only seem to show repeats over here

On an unrelated note, I just made "friends" with one of my current bosses on Facebook: was that a bad idea?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 19 February 2011, 13:05:55
I don't mainly because they only seem to show repeats over here

On an unrelated note, I just made "friends" with one of my current bosses on Facebook: was that a bad idea?

Possibly, depends on what you post and how much of a stalker/douche they are.  I never did it until I left their employment as a general rule.

Also: The Simpsons should have been canceled years ago.  I love the first six or seven seasons, but nowadays its just painful to watch.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 13:17:51
@3rdCrucisLancers:  I suspect most of us over the age of fourteen don't watch "The Simpsons" anymore.

I haven't seen an episode in nearly seven years, but that line is even older, as I remember it being uttered when I was first starting college in the late 1990s.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 19 February 2011, 13:23:55

On an unrelated note, I just made "friends" with one of my current bosses on Facebook: was that a bad idea?
I wouldn't have.  Thankfully while my boss is not computer illiterate he does, however, seem to be computer phobic so i doubt he's ever visited Facebook.  The one I dread is my mother.  Just yesterday she was asking about setting up a Facebook account.  I think I'm going to have to setup another Facebook account for just family that would be insulted if the won't allowed to be my friend. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 19 February 2011, 13:27:40
I wouldn't have.  Thankfully while my boss is not computer illiterate he does, however, seem to be computer phobic so i doubt he's ever visited Facebook.  The one I dread is my mother.  Just yesterday she was asking about setting up a Facebook account.  I think I'm going to have to setup another Facebook account for just family that would be insulted if the won't allowed to be my friend. 

She is pretty cool eg sharing silly and deeply politically incorrect jokes she had been sent as text messages and we are on first name terms.

I also make it a policy never to say anything online that I wouldn't want associated with me, silly I do, too terrible I try to avoid or will own up to if I must

For what it is worth, I am friends on Facebook with much of my family  :-\
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 19 February 2011, 13:44:24
WHaaaa?! I sir, am no bum! And I love the shit out of Arby's and their quasi-roast beef sandwiches and near-cheese topping.

Heck yeah! As one of my old High school buddies called it- Roast Beast! [rockon]
Also, if Hanse Davion likes Arby's then it is good enough for me.


Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 19 February 2011, 13:47:03
Heck yeah! As one of my old High school buddies called it- Roast Beast! [rockon]
Also, if Hanse Davion likes Arby's then it is good enough for me.
Eat there enough and you'll probably check out the same way.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 19 February 2011, 13:55:10
Except I don't have a wife as hot as Melissa nor children as disappointing as Katherine, Victor, Peter or Yvonne
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 19 February 2011, 13:58:15
She is pretty cool eg sharing silly and deeply politically incorrect jokes she had been sent as text messages and we are on first name terms.

I also make it a policy never to say anything online that I wouldn't want associated with me, silly I do, too terrible I try to avoid or will own up to if I must

For what it is worth, I am friends on Facebook with much of my family  :-\

I pretty much told my family (or anyone for that matter)  in no certain terms that if they wanted to "friend" me on Facebook they would have to learn how to deal with the swearing, ranting, and references to alcohol abuse.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Kojak on 19 February 2011, 14:06:17
As possibly the last remaining person in the world who is not on Facebook, I have to say reading stuff like this makes me glad I never joined. My first set of social obligations is obnoxious enough; I don't need a second set, which as far as I can tell is what a Facebook page constitutes.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 19 February 2011, 14:09:49
As possibly the last remaining person in the world who is not on Facebook, I have to say reading stuff like this makes me glad I never joined. My first set of social obligations is obnoxious enough; I don't need a second set, which as far as I can tell is what a Facebook page constitutes.

Depends on how you use it.  If you behave the same way online as you do face to face then you don't have anything to worry about.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 14:44:33
I use mine primarily to share the truly remarkable things my customers say to me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 19 February 2011, 15:28:31
I use mine primarily to share the truly remarkable things my customers say to me.

Have you heard of the website Not Always Right?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 19 February 2011, 16:40:49
I haven't seen an episode in nearly seven years, but that line is even older, as I remember it being uttered when I was first starting college in the late 1990s.
That's about how long its been since I stopped watching (Halloween Special of 2004 for me).
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 19 February 2011, 17:35:55
I use mine primarily to share the truly remarkable things my customers say to me.

I never really wanted to start a facebook page in the first place but was badgered into it by Emma. I managed to draw the line at accepting invites from anybody and everybody and keep my list just to friends and family I don't get to see in the flesh very often or not at all.

No Ems, no immediate family, definetly no people from work. Seems to work well for me.  8)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 19 February 2011, 18:01:55
As possibly the last remaining person in the world who is not on Facebook, I have to say reading stuff like this makes me glad I never joined. My first set of social obligations is obnoxious enough; I don't need a second set, which as far as I can tell is what a Facebook page constitutes.

Same here, man, same here.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 19 February 2011, 18:05:27
Eat there enough and you'll probably check out the same way.

Mmmm....you might-(takes a bite out of a Large Roast beef sandwich)-be right.

Also, maybe thats how Hanse died....one too many Arby's sandwiches...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 February 2011, 18:42:29
Same here, man, same here.
Ditto, and way too much potential clearance trouble if I did.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 19 February 2011, 18:53:44
Ditto, and way too much potential clearance trouble if I did.

S/F

Matt

If it helps, my friend who is RN does IT security as part of his brief (Weapons Systems Engineering) and keeps a very very closed and carefully vetted Facebook account

At least a couple of other friends have used pseudonyms on Facebook rather than their own name
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 19 February 2011, 18:54:27
It's not just a persec/opsec concern either. I recall, back in the Xanga craze, someone grumbled about his boss' wife lording it over him and his colleagues only for her to read it, then get him fired...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 19 February 2011, 19:10:54
It's not just a persec/opsec concern either. I recall, back in the Xanga craze, someone grumbled about his boss' wife lording it over him and his colleagues only for her to read it, then get him fired...

So watch what you say and who you say it to!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 February 2011, 19:22:13
So watch what you say and who you say it to!

And equally, with who you associate.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 19 February 2011, 20:16:07
Reminds me oddly of a recurring joke in Yes Minister.

Something along the lines of "if they know, we know they know, then do we know that they know..."ad infinitum
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 19 February 2011, 20:38:26
Yeah, I still definitely watch the Simpsons whenever I get the chance.  #P

That being said, it was only this Thanksgiving that I finally saw the Simpsons Movie.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 19 February 2011, 20:48:20
As possibly the last remaining person in the world who is not on Facebook, I have to say reading stuff like this makes me glad I never joined. My first set of social obligations is obnoxious enough; I don't need a second set, which as far as I can tell is what a Facebook page constitutes.

You are not alone. I too avoid Facebook, because I'm not that social a creature....

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: trboturtle on 19 February 2011, 20:52:56
Yeah, I still definitely watch the Simpsons whenever I get the chance.  #P

That being said, it was only this Thanksgiving that I finally saw the Simpsons Movie.

I sit here before you as a man who has NEVER seen a complete Simpson episode, and do I intend to. My tolerence for cartoon stupidy is lower then my tolerence for human stupidity (Which ain't that high to begin with!) The Simpson exceed that leve after thirty seconds of show.....

Craig
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 20:59:08
I just want to let you know that Melanie and I tried croque-madams tonight, and they are amazing. This is also the first time I've ever had a ham sandwich of any description.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 February 2011, 21:03:31
I just want to let you know that Melanie and I tried croque-madams tonight, and they are amazing. This is also the first time I've ever had a ham sandwich of any description.
Croques of any flavor were one of many dinner topics tonight.  We may have to try them soon; although I'm partial to the provincal variety with tomatos.

Incidentially, dinner was Red Robin carry out and I refuse to believe an Steiner in it.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 19 February 2011, 21:23:15
Regarding The Simpsons: I honestly don't think the quality has changed that much between then and now. I blame nostalgia. But on the other hand, I don't watch it that often, so maybe I'm way of base.

Regarding Facebook: I only friend my friends. Coworkers and family are of limits. My Mom's been giving be a hard time because I refuse to friend her, but I pick my battles and I'm going to make a stand here. Also, the best thing about Facebook for me is that it makes organizing parties and get-togethers with my amigos and amigas so much easier. I think I would have fallen out of touch with some good people if it wasn't for Facebook.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 19 February 2011, 21:27:56
I just want to let you know that Melanie and I tried croque-madams tonight, and they are amazing. This is also the first time I've ever had a ham sandwich of any description.
Blasphemer!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 19 February 2011, 21:34:45
I think I would have fallen out of touch with some good people if it wasn't for Facebook.

Yeah, I have one classmate who is originally from Scotland and so she uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family without having to pay large phone bills. I can see the advantages coming from that perspective but I myself still do not need to use it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 19 February 2011, 21:48:58
I created a facebook page a long time ago when it first came to my school and never really did anything with it. These days I just log in every few months or so to deal with the friend request backlog.  I hate it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 19 February 2011, 21:52:11
I have never rejected a friend request. I currently have about 120 pending requests. I think I'll accept them all at once one of these days.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 22:54:12
Blasphemer!

To which part?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 19 February 2011, 22:56:01
Having never had a ham sandwich.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 22:56:32
Having never had a ham sandwich.

Sorry man, religious reasons.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 19 February 2011, 23:14:25
Oh, right.  Pig products are Reason #1 I'm glad my religion abandoned dietary restrictions.  Well, that and the whole meat/dairy separation.  I need my bacon cheeseburgers.   :)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 19 February 2011, 23:25:54
Interesting discussion here.

I was over at the Nordic Heritage Museum in Seattle today.  Interesting little place.  Some of the carved wood objects they have are just fascinating.

I have to wonder how you could get a traffic jam on an eight lane superhighway on a Saturday afternoon though. [soapbox]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 19 February 2011, 23:27:25
Oh, right.  Pig products are Reason #1 I'm glad my religion abandoned dietary restrictions.  Well, that and the whole meat/dairy separation.  I need my bacon cheeseburgers.   :)

I grew up in a cult, not my fault.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 19 February 2011, 23:43:27
Oh no, not at all.  You can't pick your parents.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Decoy on 19 February 2011, 23:43:36
Interesting discussion here.

I was over at the Nordic Heritage Museum in Seattle today.  Interesting little place.  Some of the carved wood objects they have are just fascinating.

I have to wonder how you could get a traffic jam on an eight lane superhighway on a Saturday afternoon though. [soapbox]

You didn't look outside, did you? It was sunny here. That's why. Do you know how fleetingly small those windows of good weather are in February?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 19 February 2011, 23:45:25
I have to wonder how you could get a traffic jam on an eight lane superhighway on a Saturday afternoon though. [soapbox]

And here I was complaining earlier to some of my friends about a 4 lane jam...geez that sounds awful.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 20 February 2011, 00:38:25
Oh, right.  Pig products are Reason #1 I'm glad my religion abandoned dietary restrictions.  Well, that and the whole meat/dairy separation.  I need my bacon cheeseburgers.   :)
Reminds me, some scientists are claiming that because it comes from a bean and is higher in antioxidents than some berries, chocolate constitutes a fruit.  I do get my fruit/vegetable servings everyday after all.  [rockon]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 20 February 2011, 00:51:39
Sweet! ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 20 February 2011, 01:16:13
I too had a ham sandwich this night, a delicious Monte Christo. It helped the 12 hour work day of boredom go so much smoother. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 20 February 2011, 01:28:56
I ate half a Bacon Blast Pizza.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 20 February 2011, 02:39:45
I ate half a Bacon Blast Pizza.

You know, I like bacon as much as the next guy, but a "bacon blast" sounds alarming.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 20 February 2011, 02:40:28
As possibly the last remaining person in the world who is not on Facebook, I have to say reading stuff like this makes me glad I never joined. My first set of social obligations is obnoxious enough; I don't need a second set, which as far as I can tell is what a Facebook page constitutes.
You're not the only. If I can't talk to them face-to-face or over the phone then they are'nt worth my time or effort, family included.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 20 February 2011, 03:35:50
You know, I like bacon as much as the next guy, but a "bacon blast" sounds alarming.
Ham slices/Canadian Bacon and Bacon Bits.  It Wal-Mart brand, and not as good as the DiGorno Bacon Blitz - but that was a Superbowl special.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 20 February 2011, 03:48:37
Mmmmmmm. Bacon
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 20 February 2011, 04:47:56
Well, I'm not feeling well enough to eat bacon.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 20 February 2011, 05:13:25
Cold?
I had a slight sore throat and runny nose most of the week.  Friday, I get a three day weekend, and the cold kicks in full force.  I'm currently watching old movies and trolling the internet because I can't breathe laying down, so I can't sleep.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 20 February 2011, 06:12:38
I'm due to have Quorn vegetarian bacon bagels for brunch... not too bad actually (married to a vegetarian and her vegetarian mother is visiting for the weekend)

Interesting discussion here.

I have to wonder how you could get a traffic jam on an eight lane superhighway on a Saturday afternoon though. [soapbox]

Look up the M25 London orbital motorway  #P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 20 February 2011, 10:09:36
So in my weekend trip to Starbucks I discovered once again that the oven at the establishment was not functioning and I could not satisfy my desire for a hot breakfast sandwich imparted to me by 3CL's exploration of the croque-madame yesterday.  I eventually fulfilled my craving by traipsing around J-Ville, NC to a McDonalds, then a Burger King, and finally to a Bojangles where I found an attentive morning crew with working equipment.  Suffice it to say the steak, egg, and cheese sandwich was poorly assembled and I'm contemplating making my own damn hot breakfast sandwich next weekend.

Also, I've discovered that working on a weekend, even a long one, isn't nearly so bad if you actually enjoy your job.  Who'd a thunk it.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 20 February 2011, 10:11:31
Also, I've discovered that working on a weekend, even a long one, isn't nearly so bad if you actually enjoy your job.  Who'd a thunk it.

S/F

Matt

Likewise, it is a weird feeling! On the other hand, I also have a more manageable workload on the weekend now which also helps
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 20 February 2011, 10:28:03
Likewise, it is a weird feeling! On the other hand, I also have a more manageable workload on the weekend now which also helps
I've managed to get through most of my career without doing work or working at the office on the weekend.  The only exceptions being standing duty, deployments covering three of 16 years, and running a reserve unit which cost me a weekend a month for three years.  Only recently have I begun tagging stuff to bring home to work on one morning.  Honestly, I'd rather not but it isn't bothering me as much.  Somehow I doubt it will last to my next duty station.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 20 February 2011, 10:33:33
I've managed to get through most of my career without doing work or working at the office on the weekend.  The only exceptions being standing duty, deployments covering three of 16 years, and running a reserve unit which cost me a weekend a month for three years.  Only recently have I begun tagging stuff to bring home to work on one morning.  Honestly, I'd rather not but it isn't bothering me as much.  Somehow I doubt it will last to my next duty station.

S/F

Matt

We cover the out of hours work with a skeleton staff and at a weekend it can be too much even for safe fire-fighting  :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 20 February 2011, 12:23:15
Wow, we were falling out of the top 5 there!

Given the discussion we had a couple of days ago about governments, and without wishing to bring stuff up, someone on Facebook (aggghhh, I know) just linked to a very good YouTube video that sets out the differences between England, the UK, Great Britain etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 20 February 2011, 12:32:55
I've seen that. It's fairly good, but he makes a bit of a mess of the overseas territories (He says he's going to list them in order of population, but the Falklands would be much higher than that (and certainly above S. Georgia), and doesn't address the fact that a good many Irish don't feel Ireland is a "British Isle", and that appelation should be reserved for all the islands east of Ireland. Maybe he thought that was too touchy, though. :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 20 February 2011, 12:35:00
I've seen that. It's fairly good, but he makes a bit of a mess of the overseas territories (He says he's going to list them in order of population, but the Falklands would be much higher than that (and certainly above S. Georgia), and doesn't address the fact that a good many Irish don't feel Ireland is a "British Isle", and that appelation should be reserved for all the islands east of Ireland. Maybe he thought that was too touchy, though. :D

I think the main problem was colouring in Northern Ireland orange...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 20 February 2011, 12:40:11
Kinda sorta make sense to me... but I'm not there so I don't know. England should have been white and Wales red though. :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 20 February 2011, 13:59:48
I ate half a Bacon Blast Pizza.
Only half? Slacker.

I must look up this delicious sounding bacon pizza next time I'm at the Beast of Bensonville.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 20 February 2011, 14:42:03
About a week ago a friend and I split a pie that was bacon (not Canadian) and garlic.  Delicious, but I'm never doing that again.  I believe it took a year off my life.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 20 February 2011, 14:46:10
I've probably been eating too much curry recently (but did discover a new favourite restaurant) as well as visiting our local Italian restaurant twice in one week... so much for my diet!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 20 February 2011, 14:53:12
About a week ago a friend and I split a pie that was bacon (not Canadian) and garlic.  Delicious, but I'm never doing that again.  I believe it took a year off my life.
My favorite pizza.  When I worked for a mom & pop place (the husband, Giuseppe is from Italy) I got a pizza every night . And I always got a 10" Chicago with triple bacon and garlic. I think that is where I gained most of my weight between HS and now...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 20 February 2011, 16:06:45
My favorite pizza.  When I worked for a mom & pop place (the husband, Giuseppe is from Italy) I got a pizza every night . And I always got a 10" Chicago with triple bacon and garlic. I think that is where I gained most of my weight between HS and now...

Mom and Pop places always seem to make the best food. Guess it might be because they love what they do and they don't consider it just another job or a step up the ladder of a corporation. For them, it is their whole life's work.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 20 February 2011, 16:24:09
Agreed. On an additional food related note: Arby's should sponsor this thread. Since I began adding to the chaos I have eaten it more frequently then ever before. Pictures to come.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 20 February 2011, 23:57:50
Well, I'm not feeling well enough to eat bacon.

Nothing about this sentence makes the least bit of sense to me...
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 21 February 2011, 00:04:06
Agreed. On an additional food related note: Arby's should sponsor this thread. Since I began adding to the chaos I have eaten it more frequently then ever before. Pictures to come.

We can use the royalties to rebuild the AFFS!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 21 February 2011, 01:29:38
We can use the royalties to rebuild the AFFS!

I now have visions of an Arby's commercial with a tag of "Buying You Enforcer IIIs So You Can Spread The Word Of Arby's To Sian"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 21 February 2011, 02:05:29
I now have visions of an Arby's commercial with a tag of "Buying You Enforcer IIIs So You Can Spread The Word Of Arby's To Sian"

ARBY'S: It'll go through you faster than the Davion Guards through the CCAF.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 21 February 2011, 02:21:18
ARBY'S: It'll go through you faster than the Davion Guards through the CCAF.
Arby's, the only thing to go through you faster than the Davion Light Guards.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 21 February 2011, 02:23:06
I now have visions of an Arby's commercial with a tag of "Buying You Enforcer IIIs So You Can Spread The Word Of Arby's To Sian"

Too snappy. You know it would be something like "Super-size your meal for MORE ENFORCEMENT."
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 21 February 2011, 02:53:40
Wow, we were falling out of the top 5 there!

Given the discussion we had a couple of days ago about governments, and without wishing to bring stuff up, someone on Facebook (aggghhh, I know) just linked to a very good YouTube video that sets out the differences between England, the UK, Great Britain etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
Brilliant!

doesn't address the fact that a good many Irish don't feel Ireland is a "British Isle", and that appelation should be reserved for all the islands east of Ireland. Maybe he thought that was too touchy, though. :D
Yeah, unfortunately there just doesn't seem to be a term that describes that particular archipelago other than "British Isles" that doesn't immediately sound weird or contrived.  "Atlantic Archipelago" seems to be a term some are pushing, but seems to miss the fact that there are lots of archipelagos in the Atlantic.  "British-Irish Isles" or "Anglo-Celtic Isles" might sort of work, but both are a bit of a mouthful.  The ultimate problem is that the only geographic term for centuries was British Isles, and Ireland's independence turned an informal geographic term in a political and diplomatic issue.  <sigh>

I think the main problem was colouring in Northern Ireland orange...
The orange color makes some sense because the area has a high concentration of Unionists, who have been using orange as a signature color all the way back to the Battle of the Boyne in 1690--because Billy 3 was also "Prince William III of Orange."  It's also why the national flag of Ireland has an orange stripe as well as a green one.  The "Irish tricolor" is meant to be a symbol of all Irish people:  the green stripe, the predominately Catholic Republicans; the orange stripe, the predominately Protestant and Unionist Orange tradition; and the white stripe, peace between both sides.

Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 21 February 2011, 03:09:05
The orange color makes some sense because the area has a high concentration of Unionists, who have been using orange as a signature color all the way back to the Battle of the Boyne in 1690--because Billy 3 was also "Prince William III of Orange."  It's also why the national flag of Ireland has an orange stripe as well as a green one.  The "Irish tricolor" is meant to be a symbol of all Irish people:  the green stripe, the predominately Catholic Republicans; the orange stripe, the predominately Protestant and Unionist Orange tradition; and the white stripe, peace between both sides.

I'm fairly sure that the good Doctor knows this, being a next-door neighbor to Eire and all.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 21 February 2011, 03:27:38
I'm fairly sure that the good Doctor knows this, being a next-door neighbor to Eire and all.
Yeah, probably.  Sorry for being pedantic DoctorM.  That post (and this one) was the only thing I typed today that wasn't source code, so bear with me  :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 21 February 2011, 11:37:15
Don't EVER apologize for doing something constructive.  There are people without jobs.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 21 February 2011, 11:41:57
Sheesh Northern Ireland, now there's a topic i'll stay well clear of.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 21 February 2011, 11:43:11
As should we all
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 21 February 2011, 13:04:50
Sheesh Northern Ireland, now there's a topic i'll stay well clear of.
Agreed, political discussion should best be avoided here, but I am continually surprised by the number of people (well, Americans) that are completely ignorant of the issues around Northern Ireland.  It's especially galling when the person claims to be Irish.   ::)

Also, having been to Eire, I have to say it is one of the most beautiful places on Earth.  I had planned to be there in a couple of weeks, but my $NewClient with $BigImportantProject will delay that until later in the year.  But more money == good!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 21 February 2011, 13:15:19
Agreed, political discussion should best be avoided here, but I am continually surprised by the number of people (well, Americans) that are completely ignorant of the issues around Northern Ireland.  It's especially galling when the person claims to be Irish.   ::)

Also, having been to Eire, I have to say it is one of the most beautiful places on Earth.  I had planned to be there in a couple of weeks, but my $NewClient with $BigImportantProject will delay that until later in the year.  But more money == good!
What?  You mean you don't like the idea of a political discussion with religious overtones?  Why, what could possibly go wrong there.  :P

On a more serious note, there's a great deal of people here in the States who know of their ancestory but aren't really up to date on most events outside of the USA.  I do try to keep up, but my interests mostly center around the Middle East (for obvious reasons) as well as Continental Europe in gereral and Germany in particular due to family ties.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 21 February 2011, 13:52:54
Well i will say this.  As a Englishman of Irish descent, folks of my family despised Americans who helped fund the IRA.  The comment above about ignorance of the true situation by those claiming ancestry, is as we say where i'm from "bang on".
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Stormcrow on 21 February 2011, 13:56:18
Most of those American were likely Irish expats
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 21 February 2011, 14:03:58
Are we really going down this road right now, gentlemen?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 21 February 2011, 14:16:33
No, i think we're collectively wise enough to know our limits. 

Nice to see the SW part of the forum actually have interesting stuff in it again, for once.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 21 February 2011, 14:30:20
No, i think we're collectively wise enough to know our limits. 

Nice to see the SW part of the forum actually have interesting stuff in it again, for once.

Interesting? Where?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 21 February 2011, 21:35:32
Eesh, sometimes finding my way through all the BT source material is more taxing than my graduate theses. Seriously.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 21 February 2011, 21:47:24
Eesh, sometimes finding my way through all the BT source material is more taxing than my graduate theses. Seriously.
Your thesis was supposed to make sense right?

These guys have twenty years of contradictions.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 21 February 2011, 22:02:53
Y'know, one of the reasons I very seldom comment on non-Davion threads is because I either do not know the faction well enough to comment or I know that deep down, I wouldn't be able to comment without viewing the subject through a Davion colored lens.

 I wish certain posters would extend the same courtesy to others rather than merely mouthing it loudly and preachily without ever actually practicing it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Bostwick on 21 February 2011, 22:44:41
I wouldn't be able to comment without viewing the subject through a Davion colored lens.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 21 February 2011, 22:57:10
Y'know, one of the reasons I very seldom comment on non-Davion threads is because I either do not know the faction well enough to comment or I know that deep down, I wouldn't be able to comment without viewing the subject through a Davion colored lens.

 I wish certain posters would extend the same courtesy to others rather than merely mouthing it loudly and preachily without ever actually practicing it.

I figure with me you know what you get. Furillo with a side of Regulus and dick punches for everyone else.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 21 February 2011, 23:05:47
You say that like it's a bad thing.

Oh, I don't mind faction bias, I've got a sunburst in my avatar, ffs. And if they'd let us, I'd happilly indulge in a flame war with the best of them.  8)

I just hate it when someone claims to be able to put his fandom aside and be unbiased and to want only cordial discussion while remaining one of the most insidiously partisan posters on the forum.

Anyway, I'll put away the soap box....
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 21 February 2011, 23:07:00
Furillo I can understand, but Regulus? *shakes head*
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 21 February 2011, 23:10:47
Well, the FWL is the only other house I'm even remotely sympathetic to and Regulus is the only one who knew what time it was with the Word of Blake. Plus, they glassed Gibson.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 22 February 2011, 00:01:00
Well, the FWL is the only other house I'm even remotely sympathetic to and Regulus is the only one who knew what time it was with the Word of Blake. Plus, they glassed Gibson.
Agreed.  If you're going to go FWL, Regulan is the best way.  They gave up on the Mariks and started dealing with the Blakists.  With extreme prejudice.  O0
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 22 February 2011, 00:10:20
You say that like it's a bad thing.

BOSTY! How are you, man? It's been a while, too long!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 22 February 2011, 00:17:18
Agreed.  If you're going to go FWL, Regulan is the best way.  They gave up on the Mariks and started dealing with the Blakists.  With extreme prejudice.  O0

Never said I was going FWL, just that I side with Regulus inane things. Also Mark Brandhauber gets 17th Donegal level rep because that man is so hard people are scared of him.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 22 February 2011, 00:41:37
No, i think we're collectively wise enough to know our limits. 

Nice to see the SW part of the forum actually have interesting stuff in it again, for once.

I'm inclined to agree, not just about that section but to the forum as a whole.  It had started to seem like it was the same three conversations going on all the time, and I had basically stopped coming here except for brief check-ins.  I know it was a headache for deathshadow, but I think the forum collapsing again did us some good.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 22 February 2011, 00:48:16
Stylin' 3CL.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 22 February 2011, 07:13:21
Pretty Osiris piccie, but not something you'd catch me riding in.  I want fast then only GMs finest Stealth will do, in the 2 variant of course.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 22 February 2011, 07:36:30
I actually love the all-laser variant of the Osiris; the original does feel a bit like a failed knock-off of the Jenner.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 22 February 2011, 07:38:22
I don't think i'll ever get past my distaste/distrust of light mechs.  I started out with a pair of mechs in a campaign, one was a Wasp and the other was an Awesome.  It was done on a weight basis.  Suffice it to say i'm a touch more fair minded now, than i was at the tender age of 19 hehe.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 22 February 2011, 10:21:03
Light mechs in general rarely cut it for me, unless price is a real constraint.  I'll happily take a Wolfhound or a Spectre any day of the week, but outside that why am I not piloting a Wraith or Stealth? 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 22 February 2011, 10:35:06
You say that like it's a bad thing.

Bosty!

I was thinkin about you a few days ago while doing books. Someone with your name came through my coffee shoppe, and i spent 20 minutes in a panic thinking I'd missed you, when I found their credit card stub!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 22 February 2011, 10:59:06
Oh, I don't mind faction bias, I've got a sunburst in my avatar, ffs. And if they'd let us, I'd happilly indulge in a flame war with the best of them.  8)

I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE!  I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME!!

I just hate it when someone claims to be able to put his fandom aside and be unbiased and to want only cordial discussion while remaining one of the most insidiously partisan posters on the forum.

Cordial =/= Non-partisan.  I am polite, for the most part.  But I am remarkably pro-faction.  ALL THE TIME.  Seriously, it's a bit off for how it's all not even real.  Worrisome.

But, I'm polite, which is what was called for in the thread.  You may note that we didn't ban anyone from entering that thread.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 22 February 2011, 11:26:39
Cordial =/= Non-partisan.  I am polite, for the most part.  But I am remarkably pro-faction.  ALL THE TIME.  Seriously, it's a bit off for how it's all not even real.  Worrisome.

True. I'm less and less partisan every day, yet I'm also rude and contemptuous.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 22 February 2011, 12:27:18
I, on the other hand, having no ego of my own, am able to flame anyone at any time and yet not really even mean it.

It may suprise some people but... *looks both ways conspiratorily* ...this *is* a *fictional* universe. I'm not sure I'm really real.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 22 February 2011, 13:35:55
You know what's hilarious? Belgium just set a world record for the longest a country has gone without a government, and citizens are responding by handing out free fries or beer, depending on location.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 22 February 2011, 14:05:20
That's great.  Maybe more countries should try it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 22 February 2011, 14:17:32
It may suprise some people but... *looks both ways conspiratorily* ...this *is* a *fictional* universe. I'm not sure I'm really real.

What do you mean?!

You know what's hilarious? Belgium just set a world record for the longest a country has gone without a government, and citizens are responding by handing out free fries or beer, depending on location.

At the risk of sounding political, I would rather have free beer and chips than my current government in power
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 22 February 2011, 14:42:35
I, on the other hand, having no ego of my own, am able to flame anyone at any time and yet not really even mean it.

It may suprise some people but... *looks both ways conspiratorily* ...this *is* a *fictional* universe. I'm not sure I'm really real.
Heresy!  Burn him, he's a witch!  See, he weighs less than a duck!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 22 February 2011, 14:45:06
Most people weigh less than a DUKW. :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 22 February 2011, 14:46:15
I don't think i'll ever get past my distaste/distrust of light mechs.  I started out with a pair of mechs in a campaign, one was a Wasp and the other was an Awesome.  It was done on a weight basis.  Suffice it to say i'm a touch more fair minded now, than i was at the tender age of 19 hehe.
Oddly enough Rorke, even though I fly the 33rd Avalon Hussar banner, I'm more comfortable using medium and light designs than anything else.  I started out in a SHD and feel like my feet are in mud if the design I'm using isn't moving at least 5/8.  I don't know how you assault jockeys can stand that 3/5 movement profile.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 22 February 2011, 14:47:47
Most people weigh less than a DUKW. :D
Don't DUKW's float on water also?   :o

Dear lord, I'm surrounded by witches!  Where's my Firestarter!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: God and Davion on 22 February 2011, 14:51:14
I visited once Belgium. It is a nice country. People were good mannered and educated. The Beer was so awesome that it was the first time in my life I drank beer. Brussels was very beautiful and if you like comics it is the heaven, with comics painted in the houses and museums. Brugge is also very, very cool.

Great country if you like Beer, chocolate, comics and gofres.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 22 February 2011, 14:53:36
I visited once Belgium. It is a nice country. People were good mannered and educated. The Beer was so awesome that it was the first time in my life I drank beer. Brussels was very beautiful and if you like comics it is the heaven, with comics painted in the houses and museums. Brugge is also very, very cool.

Great country if you like Beer, chocolate, comics and gofres.
Not much of a beer drinker, but I could handle some chocolate and comics.  Actually, come to think about it, that's kind of a weird combination to be known for.  Beer and Chocolate don't seem to go together unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 22 February 2011, 15:11:47
Ports.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 22 February 2011, 15:23:33
Not much of a beer drinker, but I could handle some chocolate and comics.  Actually, come to think about it, that's kind of a weird combination to be known for.  Beer and Chocolate don't seem to go together unless I'm missing something.

They are a schizotic place, barely talking to each other

And they are famous for beer, chocolate and chips: basically anything really really tasty but really bad for us
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 22 February 2011, 15:30:49
Waffles, too.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 22 February 2011, 15:37:17
Waffles, too.

And Poirot of course

Naturally no one can put together a list of 5 famous real life Belgians as I think the most famous are Poirot and Doctor Evil
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 22 February 2011, 15:42:01
And Poirot of course

Naturally no one can put together a list of 5 famous real life Belgians as I think the most famous are Poirot and Doctor Evil

King Leopold II
James Ensor
King Albert
Rene Magritte
Audrey Hepburn
Special Bonus Shaming the Doctor Round: Andreas Vesalius
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 22 February 2011, 15:43:38
Isn't Jean Claude Van Damme a Belgian too?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 22 February 2011, 15:46:09
Isn't Jean Claude Van Damme a Belgian too?

Well, yes.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 22 February 2011, 15:50:02
This thread may have just won the award for Most Gratuitous Use of the Word Belgium.  :)

At the risk of sounding political, I would rather have free beer and chips than my current government in power
I suspect that many would prefer it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 22 February 2011, 16:12:03
Isn't Jean Claude Van Damme a Belgian too?

Yes, hence me wondering why JCVD wasn't number one.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 22 February 2011, 16:18:16
King Leopold II
James Ensor
King Albert
Rene Magritte
Audrey Hepburn
Special Bonus Shaming the Doctor Round: Andreas Vesalius


did you need Google or Wikipedia for that?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 22 February 2011, 16:20:47
did you need Google or Wikipedia for that?

Only for Vesalius.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 22 February 2011, 16:33:08
I knew four. And I've personally known another Belgian, so there.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 22 February 2011, 16:52:11
Yes, hence me wondering why JCVD wasn't number one.
A desire to block JCVD and Seagal from memory?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 22 February 2011, 16:58:56
At least JCVD had some entertaining movies, unlike Steven Seagal's snooze-fests.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 22 February 2011, 18:36:12
Can we move on? I really don't want to answer the question, what are you reading on there? with Jean Claude Van Damme!  :'(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 22 February 2011, 19:29:50
Can we move on? I really don't want to answer the question, what are you reading on there? with Jean Claude Van Damme!  :'(
You know I just asked my wife to ask me what I was reading to see how saying Jean Claude Van Damme would feel.  Aside from confusing her, and getting her to add French Fries to the list(unless you meant chips for that), it felt ok.  I remember Blood Sport fondly...and suddenly Mentos also.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Quentil on 22 February 2011, 20:08:12
When I think of a lot of BT folks, I often think of Jean-Claude Van Damme.  Because they act so tough and all-knowing and full of themselves.  Then they run into a 150pd guy in a bar in the real world and get their arse kicked.  I guess I think of the Belgium folks in general that way too.  Is Smith a Belgium name, perchance?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Traecer Revenant on 22 February 2011, 21:17:33
Belgian!

Just wanted to contribute to the thread.  :D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 22 February 2011, 23:24:25
I love your new avatar BA.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 23 February 2011, 01:09:55
Rudiger Steiner rides around in that thing, which means one of his many superpowers is Super-Balls.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 23 February 2011, 01:45:07
Yeah, BA and 3CL do have nice, new avatars.  I'm sticking with this nice one from MDM.  I might as well continue to rock it for a while.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 23 February 2011, 05:55:34
Heh, I've had that thought bubble image in my head ever since I first saw the art in the TRO.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 23 February 2011, 06:05:08
Belgian!
You kiss your mom with that mouth?
Heh, I've had that thought bubble image in my head ever since I first saw the art in the TRO.
He looks like he wants to play soccer (known as football in Europe).
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 23 February 2011, 11:41:54
Wow, I had the worst train ride in fourteen years of commuting that I've ever had this morning. A trip that normally takes an hour took nearly two and a half, with people crammed in so tightly that someone had a panic attack and had to be removed from the train. People were packed so tight the conductors couldn't get to her. Awful, just awful.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 23 February 2011, 11:59:56
Also, I should let you all know, in the interest of full disclosure and in light of a deeply ill-advised discussion on knives elsewhere on these forums, that I have never owned a knife or indeed, any other weapon, not even a rape whistle! In my defense, I never knew how much less of a man I was because of it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Klep on 23 February 2011, 12:51:18
Also in the interest of full disclosure, I do in fact carry a multitool, but I was unaware that it was what made me a man.  To think, I went over two decades without fully becoming a man, until I got my multitool.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 23 February 2011, 12:55:16
I may start carrying a rape whistle, see if it butches me up a bit.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 23 February 2011, 14:01:20
I miss my multi-tool.  The mechanics stole it during services on my Abrams. 

I now have my dad's, but it's nowhere near as snazzy as mine was.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 23 February 2011, 14:03:51
I miss my multi-tool.  The mechanics stole it during services on my Abrams.

See, everyone's done all this cool shit, and where does that leave me? Well, I once drove a six-wheeled golf cart for the Forest Preserve, so I've still got that.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 23 February 2011, 15:47:01
In the interest of disclosure, I have carried a Swiss Army Knife since I was a teen.  Of course the blades have never been sharpened on most of the ones I've owned.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 23 February 2011, 16:07:00
In the interest of disclosure, I have carried a Swiss Army Knife since I was a teen.  Of course the blades have never been sharpened on most of the ones I've owned.

I have a Swiss Army Card and, if pressed, I might just about be able to break someone's skin with the tiny knife it has  ::)

On the other hand, I regularly cut people and, only today, was wielding a scalpel only a couple of inches from someone else's manhood while shoving a big fat "line" into one of his larger veins

I have also cut open someone's belly...  }:)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 23 February 2011, 16:08:23
Are you a member of the RCS, Dan?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 23 February 2011, 16:16:40
Are you a member of the RCS, Dan?

No, I only have a Batchelors of Surgery degree (and the matching Batchelors of Medicine that makes up the basic medical qualification in the UK, the equivalent in the US is the MD) and am now a proud (and rather ripped off) member of the Royal College of Physicians of London - that was the expensive exams I have been whinging on here about for years

I did think I wanted to be a surgeon, hence getting involved in laparotomies etc but I have since realised I prefer making difficult diagnoses to standing around in pyjamas unable to scratch my nose

The line I was putting in today is called a VasCath and is for dialysis and other large volumes so is quite large, and you need to make a nick in the skin to allow the dilator in and then to pass the line down, we use something called the Seldinger Technique for just about everything (it just means putting a needle into the place we want to go, passing a wire through it and then dilating if necessary and running the object we want to insert through along the wire) as well as Ultrasound (which is Satan's own imaging technique and does not in fact use sound waves, it uses black magic)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: boilerman on 23 February 2011, 16:29:37
... as well as Ultrasound (which is Satan's own imaging technique and does not in fact use sound waves, it uses black magic)
Don't say that too loud, someone might actually believe you and then blame the ultrasound for all their child's problems.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 23 February 2011, 16:38:02
See, everyone's done all this cool shit, and where does that leave me? Well, I once drove a six-wheeled golf cart for the Forest Preserve, so I've still got that.
Seriously Ed, the very fact that you worked with the Forest Preserve for a while gives you major man-cred.  That's just a step removed from lumberjack and everyone knows that only manly men wear flannel and swing an ax.  I can't see you with a beard though, that would just be weird.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 23 February 2011, 16:41:10
In the interest of disclosure, I have carried a Swiss Army Knife since I was a teen.  Of course the blades have never been sharpened on most of the ones I've owned.
I had a Swiss Army Knife when I was a teen, but promptly cut myself with it and went back to carrying a Case lock-blade.  I've got a Kissing Crane now that's pretty nice and I think my wife still has her KA-BAR lying around somewhere.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 23 February 2011, 16:43:14
Seriously Ed, the very fact that you worked with the Forest Preserve for a while gives you major man-cred.  That's just a step removed from lumberjack and everyone knows that only manly men wear flannel and swing an ax.  I can't see you with a beard though, that would just be weird.

Well, it was a series of eight-week stints over the summer. I mostly planted things, although I did build a bridge in scorching heat. It was like something from Bridge over the River Kwai.

As for the beard...well, to my eternal shame, I simply cannot grow a respectable amount of facial hair. My younger brother can grow a massive red viking beard at the drop of a hat, but he's going bald at 23, and I'm not, so who's the real winner there, I'll tell you who: me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 23 February 2011, 16:43:39
Don't say that too loud, someone might actually believe you and then blame the ultrasound for all their child's problems.
Better the Ultrasound than RPGs again.  I put up with enough of that crap the last time around, I don't want to do it again.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 23 February 2011, 16:47:21
As for the beard...well, to my eternal shame, I simply cannot grow a respectable amount of facial hair. My younger brother can grow a massive red viking beard at the drop of a hat, but he's going bald at 23, and I'm not, so who's the real winner there, I'll tell you: me.
I used to work with a guy like that.  Best way to describe him is to imagine a balding Fred Durst. 
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 23 February 2011, 16:48:55
Don't say that too loud, someone might actually believe you and then blame the ultrasound for all their child's problems.

Better the Ultrasound than RPGs again.  I put up with enough of that crap the last time around, I don't want to do it again.

I just find it really hard to interpret and so assume anyone who can is clearly in league with the Devil  }:)

It is basically the same as active sonar (I think) but about the size of a paperback for portability, hooked up to a huge frame and stand to keep it at a useful position and to avoid it getting stolen  :-\
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 23 February 2011, 16:52:25
I did think I wanted to be a surgeon, hence getting involved in laparotomies etc but I have since realised I prefer making difficult diagnoses to standing around in pyjamas unable to scratch my nose
So you're like Gregory House, but real?  Nifty.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: DoctorMonkey on 23 February 2011, 16:53:42
So you're like Gregory House, but real?  Nifty.

Yes, I do quite a spiffy American accent too  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 23 February 2011, 16:55:07
I just find it really hard to interpret and so assume anyone who can is clearly in league with the Devil  }:)

It is basically the same as active sonar (I think) but about the size of a paperback for portability, hooked up to a huge frame and stand to keep it at a useful position and to avoid it getting stolen  :-\
Ahh, that explains it then.  Ultrasound techs aren't in league with Satan, but they do contract out on occasion.  It's very much a 1099 type of job.   :-X
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 23 February 2011, 16:55:43
Yes, I do quite a spiffy American accent too  ;)
American acccent?  Is that like English, only spoken correctly?   ;D
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 23 February 2011, 16:56:03
So you're like Gregory House, but real?  Nifty.

Hopefully he won't jump the shark as thoroughly.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 23 February 2011, 16:58:12
Hopefully he won't jump the shark as thoroughly.
Woah, wait.  House has jumped the shark now?  I haven't watched it in a few years, when did this happen?
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 23 February 2011, 17:01:25
American acccent?  Is that like English, only spoken correctly?   ;D

Ahem, cough, splutter  [tickedoff]

Hopefully he won't jump the shark as thoroughly.

I haven't watched it for a while. Scrubs remains the most realistic medical drama I have seen for some time (although there is an amazing show from the 90s called Cardiac Arrest)
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 23 February 2011, 17:01:58
Woah, wait.  House has jumped the shark now?  I haven't watched it in a few years, when did this happen?

Well, I've never forgiven them for making Dr. Cameron blond and hiring those dull new doctors, but House and Cuddy starting a romance was probably the last straw.
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Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 23 February 2011, 17:02:10
Last night, someone came in to see a doctor complaining that her son was sleeping a lot more and doing poorly in English class.  Her son was 16 and did not like English class.

How can someone be that oblivious?
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Post by: DoctorMonkey on 23 February 2011, 17:05:18
Last night, someone came in to see a doctor complaining that her son was sleeping a lot more and doing poorly in English class.  Her son was 16 and did not like English class.

How can someone be that oblivious?

If you think Ed's anecdotes about the ABA are bad, you wait until you see the levels of stupidity people display to their doctors!
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Post by: Chunga on 23 February 2011, 17:20:42
Quote
but he's going bald at 23, and I'm not, so who's the real winner there, I'll tell you who: me.

Eric? Is that you?
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Post by: Paladin1 on 23 February 2011, 17:53:48
Ahem, cough, splutter  [tickedoff]
See what I mean?   :P
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 23 February 2011, 20:10:18
Well, I've never forgiven them for making Dr. Cameron blond and hiring those dull new doctors, but House and Cuddy starting a romance was probably the last straw.
See I like Jennifer Morrison as a blonde but it was the death of Cutthroat Bitch that ruined it for me.  My wife likes the addition of Amber Tamblyn as she has brought much of the snarkiness back.  I can't verify that because our DVRs refuse to DVR anything regularly anymore.

S/F

Matt
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Post by: nerd on 23 February 2011, 21:23:32
Uh, I don't carry any sort of knife or multi-tool because I tend to loose stuff like that.  OTOH, I do have access to almost any hand tool I'd need at work.  I'm quite sure they wouldn't mind if I borrowed one for a day.  O:-)
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Post by: 97jedi on 23 February 2011, 22:32:11
Your thesis was supposed to make sense right?

These guys have twenty years of contradictions.

They did, but I had to pore over decades and decades of prior research from journal articles and the like to compile the literature reviews and present the existing art when I started my work.
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Post by: 97jedi on 23 February 2011, 22:41:35
As for the beard...well, to my eternal shame, I simply cannot grow a respectable amount of facial hair. My younger brother can grow a massive red viking beard at the drop of a hat, but he's going bald at 23, and I'm not, so who's the real winner there, I'll tell you who: me.

Damn, that is just the same as me and my brother, though his hair's not red. Had he shaved when I started typing this post, he'd need to again when I finished. Same with the baldness, though I don't think he made it past 21 before sporting the Jean-Luc.
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Post by: fltadm on 23 February 2011, 22:44:09
I don't carry a knife very often any more, but still have a rather nice Gerber Multy-Tool for when I go to the farm. And when I was in Cadets I would carry my Boatswains Kinfe all the time expalily at Quadra. And My parents got me a realy nice one made in PA for the RCN (Sill has the C Browd Arrow on the Marlinspike), Don't Carry that one.
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Post by: GreenDragon on 24 February 2011, 04:05:27
I'm about Late-Season 3/Early-Season 4 on the Garibaldi scale of Hair loss.  Which means I guess shaving it is about a half season in my future.
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Post by: Stormcrow on 24 February 2011, 10:02:51
Yep, once I get to horsheshoe head, it's all coming off
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Post by: Rorke on 24 February 2011, 11:35:25
Oh dear it's come down to this eh.

Well i couldn't grow face fuzz until my late 20s.....and then after BT made me redundant in about 2003 i just stopped shaving regularly.  So now i sport a beard most of the time.  Every so often i buzz it off, and then grow it back with disturbing swiftness.  With luck i'll escape the whole male pattern baldness thing.  Taking after my Mums family in regard to looks should hopefully solve that.  Though if i do start finding it going, then whoosh i'll buzz the whole damn lot off. 
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Post by: Peacemaker on 24 February 2011, 12:02:59
There's only one truly dignified way to style your hair when it's drastically receded.

(http://www.androgynouskelly.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/nicolas-cage-hair.jpg)
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Post by: trboturtle on 24 February 2011, 12:31:40
There's only one truly dignified way to style your hair when it's drastically receded.

(http://www.androgynouskelly.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/nicolas-cage-hair.jpg)

And it doesn't hurt that he has enough money to get his hair back if he did lose it..... ;D

Craig
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Post by: Stormcrow on 24 February 2011, 12:36:06
Really? He just had his $11 million dollar house foreclosed on
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 24 February 2011, 12:39:09
Really? He just had his $11 million dollar house foreclosed on

I cannot tell you how excited I am that Nicholas Cage is now too poor to refuse literally any crackpot script that crosses his...well, I feel like he doesn't have a desk, just a glass-encased cross-section of a whale stacked on two oil drums, but you get the idea.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 24 February 2011, 13:05:32
I cannot tell you how excited I am that Nicholas Cage is now too poor to refuse literally any crackpot script that crosses his...well, I feel like he doesn't have a desk, just a glass-encased cross-section of a whale stacked on two oil drums, but you get the idea.
Okay...that's a little bit of a bizarre reaction to the man.  What prompted this, might I ask?  ???
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Post by: Lanceman on 24 February 2011, 13:14:41
I feel accomplished today.  I stopped imbibing alcohol at 4:00 a.m. and still made it to my 9:30 class!  [rockon]
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Post by: Peacemaker on 24 February 2011, 13:14:55
I cannot tell you how excited I am that Nicholas Cage is now too poor to refuse literally any crackpot script that crosses his...well, I feel like he doesn't have a desk, just a glass-encased cross-section of a whale stacked on two oil drums, but you get the idea.
We are embarking on another golden age of cinema.

Okay...that's a little bit of a bizarre reaction to the man.  What prompted this, might I ask?  ???
Nic Cage is famous for his eccentric purchases. He is exactly the kind of person who would has a crosscut of a whale in his house.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 24 February 2011, 13:17:21
Okay...that's a little bit of a bizarre reaction to the man.  What prompted this, might I ask?  ???

You do know he named his son Kal-el, right? I just think he's a little nutty and also a terrible ham. Since I love bad movies, this is good news for Edward.
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Post by: Klep on 24 February 2011, 13:24:53
I'm currently very optimistic that Drive Angry will allow him to be the bizarre, hammy guy we have come to know.  I'm hoping I'll get a chance to see it.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 24 February 2011, 13:31:02
You do know he named his son Kal-el, right? I just think he's a little nutty and also a terrible ham. Since I love bad movies, this is good news for Edward.
I did not know that, but somehow it makes a weird kind of sense.  I don't have a real problem with a little low level insanity, after all that's one of the side perks of following conspiracy theories, so it's all good here.  I'm actually hoping that Drive Angry won't disappoint me, I've already had the misfortune of hoping that Green Hornet would be any good.
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Post by: Stormcrow on 24 February 2011, 13:32:43
YOu should have known that 'Green Hornet' was going to be bad due to the fact that Seth Rogen was in it.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 24 February 2011, 13:41:05
YOu should have known that 'Green Hornet' was going to be bad due to the fact that Seth Rogen was in it.
Maybe so, but as the first of the superhero movies for 2011, I really wanted to see a better outing than what GH proved to be.  I've still got high hopes for Thor though.
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Post by: boilerman on 24 February 2011, 13:59:37
I cannot tell you how excited I am that Nicholas Cage is now too poor to refuse literally any crackpot script that crosses his...
And he didn't already?
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 24 February 2011, 14:04:01
And he didn't already?

Well, before it needed a budget. Now he's probably appearing in home movies and at bat mitzvahs for a small fee.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 24 February 2011, 14:10:38
YOu should have known that 'Green Hornet' was going to be bad due to the fact that Seth Rogen was in it.
It had a Wombat reference.  That's probably enough to make it worth seeing once.
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Post by: Rorke on 24 February 2011, 15:16:37
Oh i dunno i quite like Seth Rogen in most of the movies i've seen him in.
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Post by: GreenDragon on 24 February 2011, 15:29:56
I saw a short on the 'net regarding the stuff Cage agrees to.  If I had any idea where I saw it, I'd post a link.  Basic gist is his agent starts making stuff up, and Cage still insists he wants to do it.
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Post by: Rorke on 24 February 2011, 16:19:32
Well he'll always have the awesomeness of Wild At Heart to look back upon.  Though i heard the Bad Lieutenant movie was pretty good too.

Maybe some movie stars only have one or two good films in them, see Charlie Sheen for details.
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Post by: Peacemaker on 24 February 2011, 16:26:53
Though i heard the Bad Lieutenant movie was pretty good too.
It is. Cage is totally unhinged and it's awesome.
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Post by: boilerman on 24 February 2011, 16:50:35
Wild at Heart ranks high on my weirdest movie list, I don't like it at all.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 24 February 2011, 17:24:33
It is. Cage is totally unhinged and it's awesome.
I've noticed that Cage does his best work when he can be unhinged a little bit.  I have to wonder about that.
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Post by: FedSunsBorn on 24 February 2011, 17:26:34
I think the only Nicholas Cage film that I actually like him in is It could happen to you. He just kinda fit the role. Of course, that was decades ago and now I cannot stand any movie he has been in lately.

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Post by: Klep on 24 February 2011, 17:40:19
It is. Cage is totally unhinged and it's awesome.
Werner Herzog gets some credit for that.
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Post by: Rorke on 24 February 2011, 17:55:23
Yeah i'll need to get around to seeing that soon.  I have "A History of Violence" on DVD to look forward to at the weekend, enjoyed Eastern Promises immensely.  So we reckoned we ought to check out the other Viggo/Cronenburg movie too.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 24 February 2011, 17:58:13
Yeah i'll need to get around to seeing that soon.  I have "A History of Violence" on DVD to look forward to at the weekend, enjoyed Eastern Promises immensely.  So we reckoned we ought to check out the other Viggo/Cronenburg movie too.

I liked History of Violence a lot. Never saw Eastern Promises.
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Post by: GreenDragon on 24 February 2011, 17:58:40
Personally, I kinda liked his Ghost Rider.  It didn't follow the Mainstream/616 continuity, but neither do Blade, Spiderman or the Avengers movies.  If they can be the Ultimates version, why can't Elvis Rider?
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Post by: Rorke on 24 February 2011, 18:04:49
Well i cannot recommend Eastern Promises highly enough.

mmm Blade, the third one is one of my guilty grubby pleasures.  The whole Jessica Biel thing mostly.  Oh that and that one scene in the clinic/hospital with Hannibal Smiths "Hi my name is...." badge just kills me.
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Post by: Rorke on 24 February 2011, 18:05:20
Oh and pardon the spam but this is 200.
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Post by: GreenDragon on 24 February 2011, 18:43:43
Blade 2 is my guilty pleasure, because the elite Vamp Commandoes were led by the last surviving member of the Felix Sapiens Species, Danny John-Jules.

Oh, and CSfA, I see Furillo is producing Clan XL Engines now.
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Post by: 97jedi on 24 February 2011, 21:10:26
Oh i dunno i quite like Seth Rogen in most of the movies i've seen him in.

That's the first thing I've read today that makes any sense.
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Post by: boilerman on 24 February 2011, 21:29:46
Eastern Promises is a good movie.  If you like your films a little dark I recommend it.
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Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 24 February 2011, 22:07:17
Oh, and CSfA, I see Furillo is producing Clan XL Engines now.

Karl Steiner FTW. That's how we got Light Ferro-Fibrous and the locally-built version of the RAC.
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Post by: greatsarcasmo on 24 February 2011, 23:12:36
I love me some Nic Cage. A friend of a friend partied with him once. Said everything he ever imagined about Mr. Cage was true--but then refused to go into details.

I hope I never go bald. My head is slightly pyramidal in shape, leading to a great deal of unflattering comments.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 24 February 2011, 23:54:27
Raising Arizona.

'nuff said.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 24 February 2011, 23:55:57

Oh, and CSfA, I see Furillo is producing Clan XL Engines now.

CSfA?
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Post by: FedSunsBorn on 25 February 2011, 00:02:08
Ceaser Steiner for Archon, I believe.
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Post by: GreenDragon on 25 February 2011, 01:11:16
CSfA?
The Artist formerly known as Vash any Better?  :)
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Post by: Doug Glendower on 25 February 2011, 01:31:56
Not really, because the symbol he'd choose to represent himself would probably break at least 10 of the 12 forum rules. :D
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Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 25 February 2011, 01:54:38
Seems a bit redundant to have a symbol to represent me when I myself am a symbol.
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Post by: Rorke on 25 February 2011, 08:01:46
Raising Arizona.

'nuff said.

Oh man how'd i omit that little treasure.  But then i love the Coen brothers stuff, there's so much of it i occasionally forget one.
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Post by: Paladin1 on 25 February 2011, 08:07:25
Raising Arizona.

'nuff said.

Oh man how'd i omit that little treasure.  But then i love the Coen brothers stuff, there's so much of it i occasionally forget one.

I hate to say it, but that's one movie of Cage's that I never got around to seeing.  I'll eventually do so, but it just never was high enough on my list of things to do that it got done.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 February 2011, 09:20:04
I hate to say it, but that's one movie of Cage's that I never got around to seeing.  I'll eventually do so, but it just never was high enough on my list of things to do that it got done.

It and Hudsucker Proxy are probably their most fun and least misanthropic films.
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Post by: Chunga on 25 February 2011, 09:20:22
You should bump it up a few notches. Such a good movie.

"Son, you got a panty on yo head."
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Post by: Neko_Bijin on 25 February 2011, 10:24:29
The first ten minutes or so of Raising Arizona are sublime.
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Post by: Rorke on 25 February 2011, 10:48:47
Absolutely, and now i have that song in my head from that whole intro scene.

No bad thing that.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 February 2011, 10:51:11
Incidentally, today's "Hark A Vagrant" is sublime.
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Post by: Klep on 25 February 2011, 10:55:40
Agreed.  Long live the Bird-Queen!
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Post by: Chunga on 25 February 2011, 17:04:21
io9 has this to say about Drive Angry:

"Drive Angry" is the best exploitation movie in years.
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Post by: Peacemaker on 25 February 2011, 17:46:04
Incidentally, today's "Hark A Vagrant" is sublime.
Hark! A Vagrant is unusual in that it's one of the only webcomics that isn't total shit. In fact, it's also better than 99% of all comic strips, ever.

io9 has this to say about Drive Angry:

"Drive Angry" is the best exploitation movie in years.
That's sort of encouraging.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: greatsarcasmo on 25 February 2011, 20:34:39
Ach, Ed did you see the bit about your Thunderbolt Sawbones posted in his thread?
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 25 February 2011, 21:04:22
Hark! A Vagrant is unusual in that it's one of the only webcomics that isn't total shit. In fact, it's also better than 99% of all comic strips, ever.

That's quite a strong statement, and indefensible as well. It's also mildly combative and insulting to the opinions of others.
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Post by: Kojak on 25 February 2011, 21:32:25
Yeah, c'mon. Everyone know that XKCD is the best web-comic ever. Geez.

Um...irreconcilable clash of opinion NPA?
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 25 February 2011, 22:04:06
NPA indeed!

I'm partial to OOTS, Erfworld, LFG, NNFB, and the Oatmeal, myself. Read Gutters occaisionally, Last Blood when it was being updated, and used to read evil Inc before I got tired of the author's ego. Megatokyo too, but itcs been a long.time since I checked it...


Honestly the Hark a Vagrant comic that Ed linked didn't do much for me.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 25 February 2011, 22:14:38
Schlock Mercenary and XKCD are the only ones I follow regularly.
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Post by: Klep on 25 February 2011, 22:27:43
I have a long list of webcomics I read and enjoy.  Too long to relate here.  Hark! A Vagrant is definitely near the top though.
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 February 2011, 22:47:47
Ach, Ed did you see the bit about your Thunderbolt Sawbones posted in his thread?

Well, it's not my Thunderbolt, and monetarily, I was not the biggest contributer. But I did just now, yeah. Hopefully it will all turn out okay; this is too cool to fail.



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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 25 February 2011, 23:16:32
Hey Ed, whatcha doin' with a picture of Chris's dog on your avatar?
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Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 25 February 2011, 23:35:38
Hey Ed, whatcha doin' with a picture of Chris's dog on your avatar?

He's so friendly. He just hates Huns, is all.
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Post by: nerd on 26 February 2011, 01:04:09
The only webcomics I read now are Irregular Webcomic and Girl Genius.  I stopped reading quite a few when I enlisted.

I used to have a list of half a dozen, but working kind of killed of my free time to do that.
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Post by: MadDogMaddux on 26 February 2011, 02:10:28
I just stumbled onto www.weregeek.com today. Trouble, I tellya.  #P
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Post by: Stormcrow on 26 February 2011, 02:16:22
Webcomics for me Girl Genius, Real Life, Sorethumbs, Gunnerkrigg Court, Flying Airship R-505 and No Need for Bushido fill my needs
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Post by: GreenDragon on 26 February 2011, 02:30:18
Legend of Bill, Blue Milk Special (Star Wars Parody), Sore Thumbs, and a few others.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Peacemaker on 26 February 2011, 03:27:41
That's quite a strong statement, and indefensible as well. It's also mildly combative and insulting to the opinions of others.
I have read many webcomics and I've honestly tried to enjoy them, but I've found them to be largely poorly written, poorly illustrated, pandering junk.
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Post by: Rorke on 26 February 2011, 05:25:25
I just haven't the patience for that kinda thing.  Besides i have a ton of the DTF to console myself with.

Though i suppose it's not really a web comic but i keep up with Penny Arcade.
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Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 26 February 2011, 05:49:03
I read Dinosaur Comics and Axe Cop. Dinosaur Comics made a comic once that I use as my guide to relationships.
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Post by: Kojak on 26 February 2011, 06:29:34
I read Dinosaur Comics and Axe Cop. Dinosaur Comics made a comic once that I use as my guide to relationships.

This one? (http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=41)
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Post by: fltadm on 26 February 2011, 15:22:37
I Read FreeFall, Girl Genius, Angles 2200, and Galaxion regulary
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Post by: VF1LAM on 26 February 2011, 18:16:27
Has anyone here ever read Satanika comics?
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 February 2011, 19:27:46
Terminal Lance.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 February 2011, 19:34:45
I stick mostly with Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal and Cyanide & Happiness for my web comic fix.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 26 February 2011, 19:43:49
So....... if you wanted to stage a Jihad-era campaign on any planet in the FedSuns, and if you wanted to START the campaign off by having the players liberate a POW/Concentration camp and then "take over" the liberated troops as their personal unit for the rest of the campaign....and if you wanted it to be a campaign wherein the bulk of the game is the players' units hitting objectives to begin liberating the planet while garrisoned by WoB...

which planet would you pick?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 26 February 2011, 19:48:44
So....... if you wanted to stage a Jihad-era campaign on any planet in the FedSuns, and if you wanted to START the campaign off by having the players liberate a POW/Concentration camp and then "take over" the liberated troops as their personal unit for the rest of the campaign....and if you wanted it to be a campaign wherein the bulk of the game is the players' units hitting objectives to begin liberating the planet while garrisoned by WoB...

which planet would you pick?

Kittery?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 26 February 2011, 19:54:32
Well, that's the obvious answer. I was hoping for something a little lesss "OMG, I get to be Devlin Stone!!!!"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 26 February 2011, 20:02:22
Hey, if someone not named Avellar, Calderon, Cameron, Centrella, Davion, Hazen, Kerensky, Kurita, Liao, Marik, McKenna, or Steiner is going to be the central hero of the entire BT universe it should be your Players. 
That was my attitude.  Of course I wrapped things up with Isis Marik(-Steiner-Davion) being named Director-General of the 2nd Terran Hegemony and First Lord of the Star League 2.0.  But the various player characters were integral in defeating the Blakists in Three Great Houses, 2 Periphery Realms, and the Clan OZs.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 26 February 2011, 20:39:33
Quote
    To be successful over the long term, a good campaign should allow players to learn about the major events shaping the future of the game universe as well as some opportunity to influence the course of those events.  Gamemasters about to begin designing a MechWarrior campaign will find that the political situation in the Successor States provides them with a wide-open, fluid backdrop and many options for future development.  For example, will the marriage between Hanse Davion and Melissa Steiner take place, permanently twining the destiny of their two houses, or will fate conspire to nip this alliance in the bud?  Or, will Subhash Indrahar or young Theodore Kurita take advantage of the current unrest in the Draconis Combine to launch a bid to unseat Takashi Kurita as Coordinator?  Then again, will it be Michael Hasek-Davion who yields to the siren song of power, throwing the worlds along the Davion-Liao border into turmoil as he betrays his liege lord in a bid for the throne?  And what will happen to the Free Worlds League if aging patriarch Janos Marik dies?

    As sole creator of a campaign universe, the gamemaster has the power and responsibility for deciding the outcome of these and other questions.  ...  The gamemaster should read over this material several times to familiarize himself with it thoroughly before attempting to create a campaign scenario.  In time, the MechWarrior universe and game system will be so familiar that the gamemaster will be able to improvise his own ideas.  So pull up a chair, and roll the computer tapes.  Welcome to the dangerous and unpredictable universe of the Successor States!
Mechwarrior, 1986.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 26 February 2011, 20:43:56
How about Demeter?  It's a Fed Suns world, or was before that blokey with the Italian name from Vicore pulled a fast one.

Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 26 February 2011, 21:04:37
Terminal Lance.

I do like Terminal Lance.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 27 February 2011, 00:18:38
Well, that's the obvious answer. I was hoping for something a little lesss "OMG, I get to be Devlin Stone!!!!"

Spica. Next door to Kittery so still in the heart of the action, with enough nebulous info so you can use it however you want and can then join in with Stone and Co. if that's the way you want to go.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 00:53:23
Not a bad idea! And that way I can fudge a date, based off of when Kittery was liberated - seeing as I can't find any dates for what took place in the lead-up to Devlin Stone's breakout.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 00:54:56
Also, I just read Field Report AFFS, and am excited to see that my home-unit is not only back up and running, but in good shape too!

I'm thinking a new 1FSACR based avatar is on its way.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 00:56:15
And finally, I can't stop reading weregeek. It's almost midnight, and I'm only up to May of 2009 - and I work in the morning. Tsk!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 27 February 2011, 01:21:43
Just saw Unknown tonight. It's kind of like a less cool/over-the-top Total Recall-slash-excuse for Liam Neeson to see Germany and get paid for it. On the plus side, Bruno Ganz!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Force of Nature on 27 February 2011, 02:11:56
I saw Unknown tonight also. Pretty much what 3CL said.

I was disappointed actually.

Force
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 27 February 2011, 02:12:56
So not as good as his excuse to see Paris and get paid?  Taken.  I rather enjoyed tyhat one - especially the unrated, where the torture scene is really torture.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 03:15:48
And the new Avatar is up. Thoughts?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 27 February 2011, 03:19:44
3CL's not going to like it, as it reinforces my SPACE AMERICA comment. :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 27 February 2011, 04:37:06
And the new Avatar is up. Thoughts?

Not bad.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 27 February 2011, 04:42:29
Nice.

My mom e-mailed me today.  Her aunt was supposed to have surgery to remove a lung on friday.  But when they started, the doctors found the cancer was so widespread as to make the surgery ineffective.  She is going down to the cancer center in Kansas City for treatment now.  Sounds like its just about pray for a miracle time.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Charlie 6 on 27 February 2011, 07:00:10
I do like Terminal Lance.
A good deal of what he says is true but because of his perspective he tends to miss some things.
My mom e-mailed me today.  Her aunt was supposed to have surgery to remove a lung on friday.  But when they started, the doctors found the cancer was so widespread as to make the surgery ineffective.  She is going down to the cancer center in Kansas City for treatment now.  Sounds like its just about pray for a miracle time.

I've been down that road before; I can certainly empathize.

S/F

Matt
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: LiaoFan on 27 February 2011, 07:11:52
Sorry, Green.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lanceman on 27 February 2011, 08:47:30
Nice.

My mom e-mailed me today.  Her aunt was supposed to have surgery to remove a lung on friday.  But when they started, the doctors found the cancer was so widespread as to make the surgery ineffective.  She is going down to the cancer center in Kansas City for treatment now.  Sounds like its just about pray for a miracle time.

Sorry to hear that man. I faced a similar situation with my dad in August.  With him they found it too late to really do anything at all, but if they are still recommending treatment then there is always hope.  Cancer is a bitch.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: God and Davion on 27 February 2011, 09:06:03
Nice.

My mom e-mailed me today.  Her aunt was supposed to have surgery to remove a lung on friday.  But when they started, the doctors found the cancer was so widespread as to make the surgery ineffective.  She is going down to the cancer center in Kansas City for treatment now.  Sounds like its just about pray for a miracle time.

Sorry to hear it. I hope she recovers soon.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: BlackAce on 27 February 2011, 10:13:50
Best wishes, GD.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 10:16:43
Aw, GD, sorry to hear bub.  :-\
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 27 February 2011, 12:32:12
And the new Avatar is up. Thoughts?
I like it.  What do you call him, "Captain Eye-Fac-Sam?"
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 12:51:10
I dunno. I was thinking maybe simply calling him, "The Point of the Sword"  [rockon]



Though I find myself debating......should I put something on his forehead?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 27 February 2011, 13:33:22
A bull's-eye?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 13:42:36
Spica. Next door to Kittery so still in the heart of the action, with enough nebulous info so you can use it however you want and can then join in with Stone and Co. if that's the way you want to go.

Spica it is.

Looks like the Federated Freemen are there till beaten away by the Janissaries in 3069. I'm just digging up who took it from the cappies.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 13:43:26
A bull's-eye?

Pffff. You just failed your "Superhero/villain identification check." :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 27 February 2011, 14:31:41
It took me a minute to figure out why the colors were all wrong.  lol
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 14:45:22
Yeah, we've known for a while that the 1st Fed Suns Armored Cav survives the jihad - ever since we learned that they joined Stone's coalition. But we didn't know what their status AFTER the Jihad would be. Field Report - AFFS lists the 1st FSACR as 75% Strength, 100% Upgraded, Elite, Fanatical. Not only are they UP, not only are the still Elite, they are NOT an LCT - which does my heart much  much good.  {>{>

So - Favorite Super Hero? You've been reassigned to Favorite Mech Regiment. :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 27 February 2011, 15:09:15
Truth, Justice, and the FedSuns Way, MDM?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 15:28:49
I was thinking more like "Team Davion Assemble!!!"

 :P
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 27 February 2011, 16:07:07
Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 27 February 2011, 17:33:45
I need somebody to explain to me what an LCT is.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 17:43:01
Light Combat Team.

It's a new development within AFFS Military Doctrine, developed in response to the battered nature of the AFFS after the Jihad. I don't remember the conversion offhand, but I think 1 RCT is the same amount as 3 or 4 LCTs.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Rorke on 27 February 2011, 17:58:58
MMM people with new Avatars.

I like yours best Blackace, been a long time since i owned or watched a tv....but Armstrong and Miller had some good shows when i did.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Lord Harlock on 27 February 2011, 18:01:55
I was thinking more like "Team Davion Assemble!!!"

 :P

I'd probably call him Captain Suns, but that's just me.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 27 February 2011, 18:57:03
So I think that would designate Furillo as Thor.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 27 February 2011, 21:50:45
Light Combat Team.

It's a new development within AFFS Military Doctrine, developed in response to the battered nature of the AFFS after the Jihad. I don't remember the conversion offhand, but I think 1 RCT is the same amount as 3 or 4 LCTs.
3-4 companies of mechs
4-6 battalions of vehicles
1 regiment of BA with an unspecified number of transport VTOLs
An unspecified amount of regular infantry and aerospace support.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 27 February 2011, 22:32:44
Tonight's Game: Resistance elements on Spica breaking into a POW camp and extracting POWs.

Attackers are tasked with arriving under cover of ECM, and have to keep all active enemy units under ECM bubble every round (checked after weapons fire) to prevent reinforcements being called in. Once they've secured the camp, they'll call for VTOLs to fly in and extract the POWs, then retreat without detection.

Attacker Forces:
Templar Tancred
PTR4D
GLT8D
WHM8D

TDR7SE
DV8D
MDG1A
ARC8M

ENF III 6RAC
HCT6D
KIM 2
HBK 5L (A Stealth Armor variant I had laying around)

Initial Defender Forces:
BLR4S
KGC000
MRV2
ANH2A
4x Beat Up but Armed SRM Carriers

Round1:
MRV2 Headcaps WHM9D with Gauss
SRM Carrier Engine Crits HCT 6D
ENF 6RAC Headcaps MRV2
TDR7SE Kills SRM Carrier
DV8D Kills SRM Carrier
HCT 6 D Kills SRM Carrier

Round 2:
BLR4S Headcaps MDG 1A
MDG 1A kills SRM Carrier
TLR, GLT, PTR, ENF all gang up on the ANH, and knock it over but don't kill it.
ARC, HBK, KIM backshot the BLR but don't kill it.

Round 3:
KGC blows out the LT of the DV8D
TLR, GLT, PTR, and ENF help the ANH ventilate all of its ammo (3 ammo hits!!!) and kill the pilot.
ARC 8M cores out BLR's engine through the back.

Round 5:
After taking 2 rounds of concentrated fire, the KGC succumbs to a the brutal fullisade.

Round 6:
Allied VTOLS begin evacuation process

Round 10:
Evacuation process complete, leaving behind the destroyed HCT, WHM, MDG, DV8



Overall, I'm really happy with the outcome - especially since it's the springboard for the campaign I'm going to run for these guys over the next bit. It woulda sucked if they had screwed the pooch and got the POWs (their characters-to-be) all killed.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 97jedi on 28 February 2011, 00:14:29
Where'd you play, MDM? The shop is closed on Sunday, no?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 28 February 2011, 00:39:25
Well, the obvious answer is someone's house, but honestly who would allow a bunch of gamers into their home? That would be crazy.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: nerd on 28 February 2011, 00:50:52
Well, the obvious answer is someone's house, but honestly who would allow a bunch of gamers into their home? That would be crazy.
Well, once they've become middle aged types with careers and families, they're housebroken.  And if you limit who you let in, it gets a lot better.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 February 2011, 01:00:28
That's a bloody first turn, Jonathan.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 28 February 2011, 01:14:08
Well, once they've become middle aged types with careers and families, they're housebroken.  And if you limit who you let in, it gets a lot better.

I suppose "broken" is an extremely accurate word, at least. But having kids would destroy even me, so there's no individual judgements there.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 28 February 2011, 02:26:10
Nah, the Tavolini is open 7 days a week. Basement fun!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 28 February 2011, 02:31:25
That's a bloody first turn, Jonathan.

Well, I let them use an asymetrical attack front, so they hit from all different angles.
Plus, I made it clear that if ANY unit was not covered by ECM (friend or foe) would trigger a visitation from another lance of 'Mechs, so they fochsed fire on the MrV2 and anything else they couldn't cover up. The SRM carriers were not at full armor either, far cry from it.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 28 February 2011, 03:18:27
In my experience, that kind of survival rate for a vehicle like the SRM carrier is about normal - especially if the attackers were able to hit flanks.  Still 3 rounds to eliminate all but one Zombie - not bad.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 28 February 2011, 03:23:34
Well, I let them use an asymetrical attack front, so they hit from all different angles.
Plus, I made it clear that if ANY unit was not covered by ECM (friend or foe) would trigger a visitation from another lance of 'Mechs, so they fochsed fire on the MrV2 and anything else they couldn't cover up. The SRM carriers were not at full armor either, far cry from it.

So, BAP is a Very Bad Thing for the enemy force to have?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Neko_Bijin on 28 February 2011, 06:42:25
That sounds like an extremely fun game---who doesn't love a good ambush?  Glad that your players were smart enough to eliminate the SRMs first.

Did you give thought to letting the defender's reinforcements walk in at round 6 to provide more targets?  By then your players would have been cooled down and positioned to repel them.

Next time, photos!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 28 February 2011, 06:45:52
I'm eyeballing it (based on tonnage) as being slightly in favor of the Attackers - though by less than 2:1.  How did you determine force compositions?  BV, Tonnage, 'ah, this looks good?'  The last can be fun.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Weirdo on 28 February 2011, 08:56:11
I like your ECM rule, I'll consider it for a patrol-and-base vs stealthy-raid game I'm considering. My group recently finished a huge month-long city fight, but the RotS was finally able to push House Liao out of Major City X with acceptable losses, even if a fair chunk of the city was flattened in the process. It was a huge fight with 'mech, armor and artillery support with both sides receiving reinforcements periodically. Despite all the immense action going on, my favorite part of the game was the small-unit door-to-door BA fighting that raged within the command center and other buildings. I'm in love with the Angerona now. [rockon]
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: 3rdCrucisLancers on 28 February 2011, 09:22:08
Well, I let them use an asymetrical attack front, so they hit from all different angles.
Plus, I made it clear that if ANY unit was not covered by ECM (friend or foe) would trigger a visitation from another lance of 'Mechs, so they fochsed fire on the MrV2 and anything else they couldn't cover up. The SRM carriers were not at full armor either, far cry from it.

That is one cool scenario set-up, MDM.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 28 February 2011, 12:28:59
So, BAP is a Very Bad Thing for the enemy force to have?

Well, in this situation, it would have been ECM set to ECCM which would have been so detrimental. Fortunately, these were Protectorate 'Mechs salvaged over the course of time, so none of them had ECM with which to do that.

Generally speaking, I'm a firm believer that if you set a strict scenario objective like requiring all units be covered with ECM, then you must both give your players the necessary equipment to meet the objective, and not build the OpFor in such a way as to totally bork their chances.  ;)
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 28 February 2011, 12:47:14
I'm eyeballing it (based on tonnage) as being slightly in favor of the Attackers - though by less than 2:1.  How did you determine force compositions?  BV, Tonnage, 'ah, this looks good?'  The last can be fun.

Honestly, it was not a balanced scenario. My experience (from reading, not being in the military) is that war is rarely balanced. The only reason the Freemen attacked at this time is because they felt they had a window of opportunity in which to take advantage of an unbalanced situation. That situation was the players' to lose depending on how they deployed their ECM and neutralized targets.

The Freemen took a beating, frankly, and if they had slipped up even ONCE with the ECM, they probably would have lost the mission. In the wings I had a strike lance comprised of BRZC3, VND5L, OTL7M, and LNX9Q. One turn after they arrived, they'd be joined by ON2M, CTF4L, HBK5L, and GHR6K.



HBK 5L
Code: [Select]
Hunchback HBK-5H

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3062
Cost: 6,077,875 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,602

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 200 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h (54.0 km/h)
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h (86.4 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Stealth Armor w/ CASE
Armament:
    1  LB 20-X AC
    1  ER Medium Laser
    1  Medium Laser
    1  Small Pulse Laser
    1  Small Laser
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      83 points                5.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                200                       8.50
    Walking MP: 4 (5)
    Running MP: 6 (8)
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RA
Gyro:               Standard                                               2.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
    TSM Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 3 LA
Armor:              Stealth Armor                AV - 160                 10.00
    Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     16           24       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  7         
                                           L/R Torso     12           18       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  6         
                                             L/R Arm     8            16       
                                             L/R Leg     12           20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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Small Pulse Laser                            HD        2         1         1.00
LB 20-X AC                                   CT/RT     6         1/10     14.00
Guardian ECM Suite                           LT        0         2         1.50
ER Medium Laser                              RA        5         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 RA        3         1         1.00
Small Laser                                  RA        1         1         0.50
@LB 20-X (Cluster) (5)                       LT        -         1         1.00
@LB 20-X (Slug) (5)                          LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 3

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 16
4          3       2       0       0      2     1   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: TSM, ECM, STL, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, FLK 1/1/0
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 28 February 2011, 13:22:08
That is one cool scenario set-up, MDM.

Thanks bub, and thanks for your feedback as I was working on it!!!

I'll try to keep posting Op Orders and recaps as we go along. And Pictures, I actually have some - hang on.......

Here's turns 1-3 after movement.
Helipads are actually buildings where the POWs are housed.

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Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 28 February 2011, 13:22:37
WOOT! After-Action Report Photos NPA!!!
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 February 2011, 13:30:11
So...new thread time?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: MadDogMaddux on 28 February 2011, 13:36:00
Tradition!

I'll open a new one in a sec.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 28 February 2011, 14:51:01
I don't know what YOU'RE talking about, but that post was the fourth one or so down from the NPA on page 60.

Have I mentioned that I really like the 50 posts/page setting?
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Doug Glendower on 28 February 2011, 14:57:19
It's too Lyran for them, apparently.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 28 February 2011, 15:26:54
I don't know what YOU'RE talking about, but that post was the fourth one or so down from the NPA on page 60.

Have I mentioned that I really like the 50 posts/page setting?
Page 60?  Hell, I'm only on page 30.  We've got 70 more pages to go by my count.
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: GreenDragon on 28 February 2011, 15:34:28
Me as well.  Also, can anyone lese see the pics?  I'm only seeing red x's  :(
Title: Re: AFFS High Command - From the Dark Heart of Arby's to the Very Gates of Sian!
Post by: Paladin1 on 28 February 2011, 15:37:37
Me as well.  Also, can anyone lese see the pics?  I'm only seeing red x's  :(
I'm getting red x's too, it's not just you.