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Title: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Gray_Noton_4lfe on 26 March 2024, 15:31:06
If this poll goes well i'll try matches between different mechs
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: BoyOfSummer on 27 March 2024, 02:54:23
Various questions arise: which 'Rifleman-3N Legend Killer', which arena, and if the LK is piloted by Noton: which pilot values do the opponents have?
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Church14 on 27 March 2024, 06:29:04
This is kind of the “who wins, Batman or X” kind of question.

Per lore, Noton faced down at least some assault mechs because he fought in the open class. So we already know he can beat extraordinary pilots in larger, better machines. How? You fill in your head canon on how much was skill, bribes, sabotage, an highly modified mech, and cheating.

So we have the canon answer. If not necessarily a logical one
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: 17thRecon on 27 March 2024, 09:49:42
The Awesome.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: General308 on 27 March 2024, 10:21:16
If Gray Norton is piloting like the poll says he is going to beat some nobody in pretty much any mech
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Charistoph on 27 March 2024, 10:36:46
It really depends on the pilots and any Skills they have.

However, going from stock equal pilots, I'm going to say the Thunderbolt because Clan Tech is cheating tech. 

The Awesome has more Damage at range, but the Thunderbolt can match half of it at long range, and is far more brutal at close range, and doesn't have that very vulnerable IS XL engine.

The Thunderbolt has no reason to get close, much less stay close to the Atlas, so once that LRM is out of Ammo, the Atlas can do nothing.

As for the Rifleman, only a superior pilot could handle that to a victory against either the Awesome or the Thunderbolt.  Both will outgun it at range, and they already carry more Armor.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Natasha Kerensky on 28 March 2024, 19:15:29

Unless Noton had some killer G/P skills or special pilot abilities, it’s the T-Bolt over the Awesome, the Awesome over the Atlas, and the Atlas over whichever version of Legend Killer.

Unusually, both the Awesome and Atlas carry ammo in a leg, FWIW.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 29 March 2024, 01:20:36
One of the options is Clan tech, you might as well ask who's going to win in a game of bowling where only one person is allowed to use the bumper lanes.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 March 2024, 01:40:22
What's the battlefield?  That makes a big difference in a fight like this- the Awesome and Thunderbolt do well if it's open and they can snipe, but if there's a lot of LOS restrictions that Atlas's autocannon is really dangerous.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Gray_Noton_4lfe on 29 March 2024, 11:14:57
What's the battlefield?  That makes a big difference in a fight like this- the Awesome and Thunderbolt do well if it's open and they can snipe, but if there's a lot of LOS restrictions that Atlas's autocannon is really dangerous.

Steiner stadium
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 March 2024, 12:21:12
That's not a big enough battlefield to allow any of the others to maintain distance from the Atlas.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Gray_Noton_4lfe on 29 March 2024, 12:23:54
That's not a big enough battlefield to allow any of the others to maintain distance from the Atlas.

That is if some of the walls don't lower
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: General308 on 29 March 2024, 12:27:57
Seems to me a lot of people just don't realize or forgetting how many years Norton was the Solaris Open Champion.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 March 2024, 12:31:18
That is if some of the walls don't lower

Even if they do, if the Atlas generally stays toward the middle of the arena it can get in range of its opponent no matter where they are, and none of the other options are fast enough to keep the distance open.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Gray_Noton_4lfe on 29 March 2024, 13:15:49
Seems to me a lot of people just don't realize or forgetting how many years Norton was the Solaris Open Champion.

7yrs right?
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Gray_Noton_4lfe on 29 March 2024, 13:20:42
Even if they do, if the Atlas generally stays toward the middle of the arena it can get in range of its opponent no matter where they are, and none of the other options are fast enough to keep the distance open.

That's very true, so would you say that Steiner Stadium is more of a short range melee kind of arena
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 March 2024, 17:06:59
I'd say that most of the Solaris arenas are fairly short range compared to a real battlefield.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Charistoph on 29 March 2024, 18:32:06
Seems to me a lot of people just don't realize or forgetting how many years Norton was the Solaris Open Champion.

It was his 'Mech that is being evaluated compared to the other 3, not him.
Title: Re: Who would most likely win in a battle
Post by: Prospernia on 31 March 2024, 13:34:18
Tough-call; Noton's mech might be able to bring down an Atlas, unless it's 3028. I would win for two reasons; 1. I'm not a dirty Lyranite and two, the other day I got a rolling critical, head, blown-off with a large-laser.  With my luck, I'd win.   Also, what if I got the same result with a MG?  That would  be hard to explain.