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Title: Mech rivalries
Post by: Vash The Stampede on 13 January 2014, 03:39:10
There are always those two mechs that end up fighting each other more than once, like Timberwolf and Summoner, or Battlemaster and rifleman, or Griffin and Shadow Hawk. What two mechs do you think make great rivals on the battlefield?
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 13 January 2014, 04:01:42
Archers vs Warhammers.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Deadborder on 13 January 2014, 04:07:21
Mad Cat versus Vulture

Mad Cat versus Mad Cat Mk IV (Just ask Anastasia Kerensky about that one)

Hellstar versus everything that has ever existed in all time and space

Iguan versus Godos
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Deadborder on 13 January 2014, 05:43:00
Here's another one I've encountered; Penetrator versus Falconer. I've discovered that asking which is better is a good way to start a war.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Maniac Actual on 13 January 2014, 06:27:43
Archers vs Warhammers.
That was my first thought, too.  In the first (3025 era) game I ever played, my buddy had a lance with two archers and two warhammers.  I decided to go with a "Heavy cav" lance with two trebuchets and two ostrocs.

Yeah, that ended well for me.  Not.   :D
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Diplominator on 13 January 2014, 06:57:16
Here's another one I've encountered; Penetrator versus Falconer. I've discovered that asking which is better is a good way to start a war.

That is actually how the FedCom Civil War started. Katherine was pro-Falconer and it all went downhill from there.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Stinger on 13 January 2014, 07:54:09
Well, there always is the Shadow Hawk vs. Wolverine vs. Griffin Debate.

I personally prefer the Wolverine myself  O0
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Vash The Stampede on 13 January 2014, 10:46:14
Behemoth vs. Blood Asp
That's a ton of weaponry flying around!
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Der Kommissar on 13 January 2014, 11:43:34
The Thug vs. Warhammer is one mentioned in the fluff for the Warhammer.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 13 January 2014, 13:22:23
Wasp vs Stinger :D

It's as much fun to watch as a MIT slap-fight.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Josva Valdreki on 13 January 2014, 13:45:18
Marauder/Warhammer
?   ?   ?/Kerensky

Sunday only at the Boreal Reach Stadium.

See the undisputed heavy-weight champeens of the Inner Sphere duke it out to determine who will be the Ultimate Heavy-Weight Champeen of the Universe in this ultimate grudge match between the Black Widow and the Bounty Hunter!
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Col.Hengist on 13 January 2014, 14:14:25
There are always those two mechs that end up fighting each other more than once, like Timberwolf and Summoner, or Battlemaster and rifleman, or Griffin and Shadow Hawk. What two mechs do you think make great rivals on the battlefield?

 Battlemaster vs. Rifleman? Pfffff. Never seen that one. You'd expect the Rifleman pilot to have some sense and go back to shooting birds.

 
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 13 January 2014, 14:17:39
Panther vs. Wight.

 ^-^
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Stormwolf on 13 January 2014, 14:28:47
Here's some of mine:
Kit Fox vs Centurion
Dragon vs Centurion
Timber Wolf vs Atlas
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 13 January 2014, 14:38:42
Panther vs. Wight.

 ^-^
Pretty one-sided for a rivalry. :-P
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Vash The Stampede on 13 January 2014, 23:37:31
Battlemaster vs. Rifleman? Pfffff. Never seen that one. You'd expect the Rifleman pilot to have some sense and go back to shooting birds.
My buddy has been using one that I gave him to get him in the game. He's gotten quite lucky with it in the past. Twice we've fought, each time one of us comes left victorious, either by his mech shutting down right in front of my Battlemaster, or the Battlemaster has a different pilot because of faction affiliation and was green, and got smacked around. It's odd I know, but it's what I got from it.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: rebs on 13 January 2014, 23:45:19
Victor vs Hatamato Chi (Or any Hatamato)  Likely happened a few times. 
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Kiff_Stevenson on 13 January 2014, 23:50:08
Vindicator vs. Enforcer

A classic rivalry.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 13 January 2014, 23:54:35
Wolfhound vs Panther

Dervish vs Trebuchet



Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Dies Irae on 14 January 2014, 00:11:42
Wolfhound vs Jenner
Orion vs Zeus
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Deadborder on 14 January 2014, 00:56:51
Thunderbolt vs other 3025 heavy 'Mechs

Thud wants to know why he never gets to be the hero
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 14 January 2014, 01:15:38
There's also the all-time classic Panther-Valkyrie matchup, or the Jenner-Wolfhound fights.

Also considering how prevalent they apparently are in the early sourcebooks, Archer-versus-Archer probably happened a lot, as well as Stinger-Wasp-Locust battles in pretty much any manner you like.  Two hundred thousand Stingers and even more Wasps than that...
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 14 January 2014, 01:25:54
Battleaxe vs. Warhammer. That one's explicitly canonical, if pretty one sided.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: rebs on 14 January 2014, 01:32:18
UrbanMech vs Locust.  Not as one sided as one would think.   

UrbanMech vs the world. It's the Rodney Dangerfield of BattleMechs, but don't say that to its front arc.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: SteelRaven on 14 January 2014, 02:13:05
Hammerhands vs Battleaxe with nether surviving the Warhammer.

3025 Dragon vs 3025 Zeus; while never written in the fluff, I always thought it was odd both mechs shared a similar weapons profiles (AC/5s, LRMs, Lasers) The Zeus has more firepower and armor but the Dragon has speed while both serve as proud symbols of their great house military power.

Centurion vs Dragon; same reasons as above.

3025 Commando vs Panther vs Valkyrie, above.

 
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Josva Valdreki on 14 January 2014, 03:32:48
Thunderbolt vs other 3025 heavy 'Mechs

Thud wants to know why he never gets to be the hero

Because nobody likes the Thud.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Spinosapper on 14 January 2014, 04:04:06
Stalker vs Awesome

Grasshopper vs Guillotine

Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Wikkid on 14 January 2014, 04:21:20
Because nobody likes the Thud.

My favourite 3025 mech.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: SteelRaven on 14 January 2014, 04:25:28
My favourite 3025 mech.
Favorite among players yet passed by almost every writer as a ride for the main character.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: GunjiNoKanrei on 14 January 2014, 06:02:55
Favorite among players yet passed by almost every writer as a ride for the main character.
There were a couple of notable Thunderbolt pilots: Patrick Kell and Maeve Wolf were both featured in novels. Also Hans Vordel, who is not a main character, but appears in the novels as well.

But I see your point. And it is of note that the Thunderbolt is indeed often absent in the old (unseen heavy) books not just as a hero Mech but also as opposition.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Mendrugo on 14 January 2014, 07:19:55
Goliath vs. Snowspeeder...particularly when they have those tow cables.

Seriously, though, Goliath vs. Valkyrie, given what happened to Cochrane's Goliaths.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 January 2014, 09:46:02
Battleaxe vs. Warhammer. That one's explicitly canonical, if pretty one sided.

Along those lines, you also have the Dragon vs. the Shadowhawk and Quickdraw vs. Rifleman vs. JagerMech.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Lord Harlock on 14 January 2014, 19:17:59
You know I am surprised that no one has mentioned the other hammer rivalry: the Hammer vs. the Valkyrie. The Hammer Light-mech was built by Free World Defense Industries on Gibson to compete against the Corean Enterprises' Valkyrie. And this one has a clear winner since the Hammer's production lines along with most of Gibson got glassed by the Regulans, and to my knowledge, no one has resurrected the Hammer.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Col.Hengist on 15 January 2014, 13:01:25
This isn't a classis rivalry but as other people are sharing their own personal rivalries I'll share mine.

My friend Clint used to be a big awesome fan. Back in the day we played ... The only way you can have a mech is if you salvaged it or bought it with c-bills or traded for it. Well I got my hands on a Penetrator. His awesome was full of clan tech that we had salvaged...clan pulse lasers, targeting comp etc. The thing was a nasty beast.

 Well I kitted out my Penetrator with a few clan tech things I had salvaged. Just erppc's and some extra HS's.  Turned out that was just what I needed. I beat him 12 straight games headcapping him within the first 4 rounds.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: The Eagle on 15 January 2014, 13:11:10
You know I am surprised that no one has mentioned the other hammer rivalry: the Hammer vs. the Valkyrie. The Hammer Light-mech was built by Free World Defense Industries on Gibson to compete against the Corean Enterprises' Valkyrie. And this one has a clear winner since the Hammer's production lines along with most of Gibson got glassed by the Regulans, and to my knowledge, no one has resurrected the Hammer.

I don't reall see that as a rivalry, though.  The Hammer was never widely exported outside of the League, and the Valkyrie comprised a hefty percentage of the Davion light 'Mech forces for centuries.  Sure, Corean built it, but it was Corean on New Avalon, not Corean on Stewart, so as far as I'm aware, the two were never really placed in opposition to each other.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: FedRatCowboy on 15 January 2014, 16:20:47
Pheonix Hawk (3025) vs Maruader (3025)

Throw in a crappy love story, tons of legal proceedures, and you have a great battle. LOL!!!
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Rorke on 15 January 2014, 16:57:15
Jagermech vs Loki

And in my experience the Jagermech came out top more often.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: SteelRaven on 16 January 2014, 02:59:49
Along those lines, you also have the Dragon vs. the Shadowhawk and Quickdraw vs. Rifleman vs. JagerMech.
The Jagermech vs Rifleman always made sense to me, the Quickdraw vs Rifleman fluff not so much.

You can kinda connect the dots on how the Shadowhawk inspired the Dragon (LRMs, AC5, Med Laser)
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: M4cr0Dutch on 16 January 2014, 21:10:37
My favourite 3025 mech.

Seyla  O0

I can remember taking on my mates TBolt waaay back in the day and being utterly torn to pieces.

During the Luthien campaign I am playing, we have seen a lot of Summoner vs Archer battles. The Draconis side has an elite Archer MechWarrior who sits back in cover and rains fire. I have a veteran Summoner MechWarrior who is tasked with jumping through all that terrain to get to him, stick within minimum range and give him hell.

Other than that, Cougar Primary vs Adder Primary. The Cougar has the same average damage potential, slightly better chance to hit with a wider spread of damage, slightly better heat control but slower. The Adder has that PPC knock out punch and targeting capability. Old faithful vs the stylish new upstart  ;D
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: blackjack on 17 January 2014, 00:43:33
Crusader vs Tbolt
Wight owns panther!!!
Orion Vs Zeus
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 17 January 2014, 04:30:44
Wright owns panther!!!
You mean Wight?  Of course it does, it's a heavily upgraded Panther.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Vash The Stampede on 17 January 2014, 11:24:08
Wight is a cool mech
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Fat Guy on 17 January 2014, 12:08:17
Even though it wastes too much tonnage on that compact engine.   ???
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Veretax on 18 January 2014, 08:13:39
I once had a series of interesting battles between a Clan Warhawk/Masakari and a Templar
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Nodachi on 18 January 2014, 09:25:22
Stalker vs Awesome

Grasshopper vs Guillotine
Never did 'hopper versus Guillotine. Did do the'hopper versus a battlemaster. Didn't turn out well for the bmaster.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: avon1985 on 18 January 2014, 21:23:34
Archer vs Warhammer is my favorite. That was one my first battle ever in battletech.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: WarGod on 18 January 2014, 21:44:43
Thunderbolt versus Loki.
Battlemaster vs zeus,or atlas.

Maruader vs Warhammer though takes the title.  my first game
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: House Davie Merc on 19 January 2014, 03:11:46


Maruader vs Warhammer though takes the title.  my first game

I gotta agree with Marauder vs  Warhammer .

That's one of the all time classic fights .

Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 19 January 2014, 04:29:17
Yen Lo Wang vs Legend Killer  8)
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Molossian Dog IIC on 19 January 2014, 11:47:33
UrbanMech running vs. pavement hex.

Just legendary.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: IronHead on 19 January 2014, 12:16:36
UrbanMech running vs. pavement hex.

Just legendary.

ROFL
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: WarGod on 20 January 2014, 18:53:34
Grasshopper VS guillotine always comes out in a wash for me.  can go either way.  I do say the Srm 6 on the guillotine , does act as a good equalizer.  Now if its a 5n Hopper with the PPC, still equals out.

Shadowhawk VS wolverine .

Falconer VS Summoner.  its a jumping slug match.

Centurion VS enfocer. 

Wasp vs Stinger
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: massey on 20 January 2014, 21:48:07
Thunderbolt vs Crusader is the one I always think of.  It was one of the introductory fights in the 3rd edition book.
Title: Re: Mech rivalries
Post by: Col.Hengist on 21 January 2014, 10:30:54
Never did 'hopper versus Guillotine. Did do the'hopper versus a battlemaster. Didn't turn out well for the bmaster.

 Who ever was piloting the battle pimp was a nub.