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Title: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 08 February 2017, 08:22:38
Yeah, I'm still pissy about the Chargers ditching San Diego and the Jack Murphy stadium, but L.A. just got the Rams and now them too?  Grumble.

So the Patriots come off another Superbowl win, will Brady stay in and keep playing?  Seems so.

Changes begin, Kyle Shanahan is now coaching San Francisco while the Falcons grab Steve Sarkisian as a replacement.  The Cleveland Brown Notes have let quarterback Josh McCown go, Packers released running back James Starks, and Superbowl winner Martellus Bennett is up for new contracts.  Any bets on the shuffles to come before the preseason, and any thoughts on the season itself?

Also, the first 65 million of the billion dollar settlement begins this month, with the League dumping another 120M into the fund later this year.  Gotta wonder how much this will change the game - for the safer, which is frankly something important.  I expect some further rules changes for hits and tighter enforcement, but...I should admit I'm a motorsports fan, and unfortunately you can't safe everything out of danger.  When you get cars going that fast, pushing those limits, sometimes...racing happens.  The same with football, and men playing as hard as they can at each other.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: The Eagle on 08 February 2017, 10:03:43
I hope Brady retires, I really do.  It'd be classy to go out on top. . . and I want Buffalo to at least have a chance of making the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 08 February 2017, 10:12:02
I hope Brady retires, I really do.  It'd be classy to go out on top. . . and I want Buffalo to at least have a chance of making the playoffs.
It's what I would do. Five SB wins. Still under 40 and relatively healthy and has nothing to prove to the football world or its fans. However when his extremely hot wife asked him to retire and he says "Sorry, baby, but I'm having too much fun," you know he's not going anywhere soon.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 08 February 2017, 11:01:52
Denver also hired a new HC some time ago, former Dolphins DC Vance Joseph.  I know a lot of the fans were hoping they'd tap Shanahan, in part because his offense is similar to Kubiak's, making for a smoother transition, in part because he's have been more likely to retain Wade Phillips (now in LA with the Rams), and in part, I suspect, out of sentimentality for the good old days when Kyle's dad was our HC.  I've seen enough good from his tenure to trust that Elway knows what he's doing, but I don't know enough about Joseph to be super optimistic.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 08 February 2017, 11:26:04
Elway also re-hired McCoy as OC and Musgrave as QB (former Oakland OC), so there's a new brain trust to help better the offense (it can't get any worse, can it?)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 08 February 2017, 12:10:42
I wonder if the Chargers will see if they can tap the Mouse and become the Anaheim Chargers....
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 08 February 2017, 12:38:14
Also, the first 65 million of the billion dollar settlement begins this month, with the League dumping another 120M into the fund later this year.  Gotta wonder how much this will change the game - for the safer, which is frankly something important.  I expect some further rules changes for hits and tighter enforcement, but...I should admit I'm a motorsports fan, and unfortunately you can't safe everything out of danger.  When you get cars going that fast, pushing those limits, sometimes...racing happens.  The same with football, and men playing as hard as they can at each other.
The main problem with football versus, say, Motocross is that it isn't one accident that's the threat, but a constant battering which eventually robs a man of what makes him human - his mind - and that the NFL tried to cover it up and are now valiantly trying to downplay it. If you'd ever seen a 37-year-old man - once a football hero to millions! - drooling vacantly as his wife spoonfeeds him, you might not think of the new rules so casually...

And what makes it really annoying for me is now that parents are becoming more activist, not allowing their children to participate in football programs and dropping the NFL's future in the toilet, the NFL is trying an end run around them and appealing directly to the kids. Feels kinda... well... like Camel Joe selling footballs instead of cigarettes.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Peter Smith on 08 February 2017, 14:58:06
The main problem with football versus, say, Motocross is that it isn't one accident that's the threat, but a constant battering which eventually robs a man of what makes him human - his mind - and that the NFL tried to cover it up and are now valiantly trying to downplay it. If you'd ever seen a 37-year-old man - once a football hero to millions! - drooling vacantly as his wife spoonfeeds him, you might not think of the new rules so casually...

I can't speak to motorcross itself, but other forms of motorsports have chronic injury issues. Drag racers have some of the highest incident rates of detached retinas (that's across all occupations, not just drivers). Racing of all sorts carry the risk of concussions, which can (and have) sidelined drivers for months. Dale Earnhardt Jr. is probably the highest profile driver I can think of with on-track concussions, he sat in 2012 (2 races) as well as 2016 (half a season).

Pick your poison, really. Anything that subjects the human body to high amounts of energy runs the risk of head trauma.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 08 February 2017, 15:17:47
This is why chess is the safest sport.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 08 February 2017, 15:40:20
This is why chess is the safest sport.

Not so fast! (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/aug/15/deaths-world-chess-olympiad-norway)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 08 February 2017, 18:20:39
I wonder if the Chargers will see if they can tap the Mouse and become the Anaheim Chargers....

I'm sure they're working on it.  That's kind of what Spanos has wanted all along, why he never negotiated in good faith with the city of San Diego, and why he got Bob Iger onboard with his Carson project.

Spanos doesn't want to be Kronke's tenant.  He wants control over his own stadium as a revenue source.  More than anything else, he needs the money to cover the inheritance tax when Alex Spanos dies. Stadium seats a few times a year don't outweigh revenue from a larger TV market in LA, plus he gets to keep the San Diego TV market. That earns him more so, even if the family does need to sell the team later on, they'll get more for it.

My question is: where are the Raiders going to end up?  Does San Quentin have a stadium?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 08 February 2017, 18:26:53
I'm sure they're working on it.  That's kind of what Spanos has wanted all along, why he never negotiated in good faith with the city of San Diego, and why he got Bob Iger onboard with his Carson project.

Spanos doesn't want to be Kronke's tenant.  He wants control over his own stadium as a revenue source.  More than anything else, he needs the money to cover the inheritance tax when Alex Spanos dies. Stadium seats a few times a year don't outweigh revenue from a larger TV market in LA, plus he gets to keep the San Diego TV market. That earns him more so, even if the family does need to sell the team later on, they'll get more for it.

My question is: where are the Raiders going to end up?  Does San Quentin have a stadium?
They're going to hollow out the Luxor pyramid.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 08 February 2017, 19:00:05
Well some early thoughts:

It'll frankly take more than Brady retiring to drop the Patriots from their position of dominance.

Rams will probably continue to suck.

Browns will continue trying to put square pegs in round holes and eat paste while trying to figure out how to make it work.

And the award for the most dysfunctional team of 2016-17 goes to the Washington ******.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 08 February 2017, 23:14:57
Well some early thoughts:

It'll frankly take more than Brady retiring to drop the Patriots from their position of dominance.

Rams will probably continue to suck.

Browns will continue trying to put square pegs in round holes and eat paste while trying to figure out how to make it work.

And the award for the most dysfunctional team of 2016-17 goes to the Washington ******.
Belichick retiring is what it would take.  Brady is a good QB, but if he and Peyton had been drafted by opposite teams, Manning would have 6-8 rings by now and Brady would have 0.  The coach, not any one of the players, is where NE's success comes from.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 08 February 2017, 23:22:28
*nod*

They do draft well, trade well, and develop players well.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 February 2017, 09:42:10
Stadium seats a few times a year don't outweigh revenue from a larger TV market in LA, plus he gets to keep the San Diego TV market.


He doesn't get to keep any revenue from any particular TV market, the NFL splits that equally among all the teams. TV markets are a baseball thing.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 08 March 2017, 15:49:39
It appears the ****** are upset with their relative stability as of late and now have shut their GM out of any decision making processes. As a Cowboy fan I approve.

Meanwhile, it appears Tony Romo is off to somewhere else. I feel bad that he's leaving without a ring and hope he does well but I'll jump on the Dak bandwagon.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ColBosch on 08 March 2017, 18:57:36
Oh, the Bears. Sometimes I wonder if their owners are trying a Major League strategy to tank attendance to the point that they can leave Chicago. We really don't need another Jay Cutler, but it looks like we're going to get one. For crying out loud, Mike Glennon was benched for Josh McCown, who had made a very credible run when Cutler was out two years ago - and the Bears promptly ditched, because God forbid anyone outshine the golden boy.

Every decision the Bears have made since I moved to Chicago has been baffling.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 08 March 2017, 22:34:04
So you're saying it's all your fault?    :D
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ColBosch on 08 March 2017, 23:44:31
Maybe. I've got no idea what's going in the Bears boardroom.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 08 March 2017, 23:56:23
I'm pretty sure it involves ouiji boards and mind altering substances.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 09 March 2017, 16:25:44
Maybe. I've got no idea what's going in the Bears boardroom.

Apparently, neither does anyone in said boardroom.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 09 March 2017, 17:00:55
Well, there goes Osweiler's carrer, out of the toilet, into the sewage tank:


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18865517/houston-texans-trade-brock-osweiler-2018-second-round-pick-cleveland-browns
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 March 2017, 17:01:49
Yeah, Mike Glennon for $15 million a year? Look to what the Texans had to give up to get rid of Brock!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 March 2017, 17:30:19
Hehehe (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/Barnwellx2017FAgrades/bill-barnwell-grades-big-2017-free-agent-deals-nfl)

Quote from: ESPN
Have you ever looked up somebody on Facebook whom you vaguely remembered from a party three years ago and thought they looked great? Have you then paid that person three years and $45 million to come to Chicago and hang out with you? Congrats! You're the Chicago Bears.
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Post by: Peter Smith on 09 March 2017, 18:01:10
Maybe. I've got no idea what's going in the Bears boardroom.

Whatever Virginia wants. She has control of her children's shares, which puts her strongly in the majority.

The Bears will get better, unfortunately it'll most likely be a repeat of how the Blackhawks got better.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ColBosch on 09 March 2017, 18:50:19
Whatever Virginia wants. She has control of her children's shares, which puts her strongly in the majority.

The Bears will get better, unfortunately it'll most likely be a repeat of how the Blackhawks got better.

When they stop being a farm team to the Red Wings? ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 09 March 2017, 19:00:02
This is fantastic in the most hilarious way.  The Browns literally just bought a draft pick, and Houston threw Osweilier under the bus so hard his career was dead before it went under the wheels.  Especially if they just cut him now, which is entirely in the realm of reason.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 09 March 2017, 23:54:52
Any guesses on where Romo's going?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 10 March 2017, 00:32:11
Any guesses on where Romo's going?

If I had a bunch of cap space and desperately needed a quarterback, I wouldn't take him.
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Post by: monbvol on 10 March 2017, 00:48:54
Hmm...

There are some teams he'd be an upgrade for but I'm not sure any of them would be willing to part with the money to get him unless he surprises us and is willing to take a pay cut to keep playing.

So I'm going to predict retirement while he's still in reasonably good health and no serious takers on the market.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 10 March 2017, 07:24:06
Whatever Virginia wants. She has control of her children's shares, which puts her strongly in the majority.

The Bears will get better, unfortunately it'll most likely be a repeat of how the Blackhawks got better.
Meaning, like Dollar Bill, Virginia is going to have to die before they do get better.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 10 March 2017, 07:26:48
Any guesses on where Romo's going?
Houston, that's why Osweiler was traded. Broncos can't afford to get Romo in a trade. As for the Broncos, they have four glaring holes (RT, LT, OG, NT) entering FA and have only filled one (OG) so far.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 10 March 2017, 09:59:35
There's some good tackles in the draft.  I imagine they'l get at least one there.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 10 March 2017, 11:24:05
I'm surprised after the flurry of yesterday that this morning has been so quiet.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 March 2017, 13:49:21
Also, I hope the 49ers sign Jay Cutler. They will then have all three of the Bears starting QBs from last year.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 14 March 2017, 14:01:44
The Browns are interested in Geno Smith.

At this point, my theory is that they intend to form a Voltron of awful QBs in the hopes that this conglomerate ends up being better than teh sum of its parts.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 March 2017, 14:03:30
The Browns are interested in Geno Smith.

At this point, my theory is that they intend to form a Voltron of awful QBs in the hopes that this conglomerate ends up being better than teh sum of its parts.

If only Tim Tebow wasn't with the Mets!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ColBosch on 14 March 2017, 15:32:02
If only Tim Tebow wasn't with the Mets!

Isn't it the Quohog Mets or something, though?

Also: "Tebow, you don't know Diddly."
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 March 2017, 15:38:25
Isn't it the Quohog Mets or something, though?

Also: "Tebow, you don't know Diddly."

Well, it's spring training so there's a whole mess of folks from each farm system there from what I understand.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Triptych on 16 March 2017, 10:04:53
Also, I hope the 49ers sign Jay Cutler. They will then have all three of the Bears starting QBs from last year.

 ;D

On that note, I hope da Bears draft Deshaun Watson, he's a winner.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Decoy on 16 March 2017, 15:11:50
The Browns are interested in Geno Smith.

At this point, my theory is that they intend to form a Voltron of awful QBs in the hopes that this conglomerate ends up being better than teh sum of its parts.

Well, look where drafting good ones got them. I think Frankenquarterbacks are the only thing the NFL will let them have before long.
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Post by: monbvol on 16 March 2017, 15:13:22
And Seattle has signed Lacy.

That could prove to be an interesting move.
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Post by: Decoy on 16 March 2017, 15:25:34
Pete's always willing to see if good players have anything left in them.....although my mother has never forgiven him for letting Terrell Owens have #10.
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Post by: monbvol on 16 March 2017, 18:46:41
It more makes me wonder if they were trying to undo their last deal with GB but couldn't get it done so had to settle for second best.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 16 March 2017, 20:50:36
And Seattle has signed Lacy.

That could prove to be an interesting move.
He's an overweight, injury-prone back that will end up not contributing much. Hope Rawls can stay healthy.
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Post by: monbvol on 16 March 2017, 21:53:57
Which is part of the trouble with Rawls, he is pretty injury prone himself.  Yeah I know part of that is the offensive line hasn't been great for the past couple of years and it's hard to stay healthy under those conditions but Rawls seems particularly injury prone.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 16 March 2017, 23:15:30
More work for Alex Collins.  WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  PIG!  SOOOIE!
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 24 March 2017, 08:49:58
Bears fans: "We can't get any worse than Cutler."

Bears office: "Hold my beer."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/24/bears-announce-signing-of-mark-sanchez/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/24/bears-announce-signing-of-mark-sanchez/)
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Post by: Triptych on 24 March 2017, 09:26:32
Bears fans: "We can't get any worse than Cutler."

Bears office: "Hold my beer."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/24/bears-announce-signing-of-mark-sanchez/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/24/bears-announce-signing-of-mark-sanchez/)

Oh lord... The Bears are hopeless!  :'(

Last year the Bears QBs were Cutler, Hoyer and Barkley. They have been replaced byt he likes of Glennon, Shaw and Mark "Buttfumble" "Dirty" Sanchez. Ugh. Can it get any worse?  [tickedoff]
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Post by: cavingjan on 24 March 2017, 09:33:09
Yes it can.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 24 March 2017, 09:48:47
Yes it can.

Relevant:

(https://i0.wp.com/phillyinfluencer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Manziel.jpg?resize=450%2C270)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 24 March 2017, 10:03:03
Perhaps it's the Bears' way of inspiring their OL to protect Glennon to their utmost.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 24 March 2017, 10:10:35
Perhaps it's the Bears' way of inspiring their OL to protect Glennon to their utmost.

"Two options: Keep Glennon from getting hit, or risk having a Sanchez-shaped bruise on your keester when he tries to run through you."
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Post by: ColBosch on 24 March 2017, 10:32:00
Yes it can.

Technically correct. The Bears could win fewer than 3 games this season.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 27 March 2017, 22:11:35
And Vegas gets the Raiders in 2018.  I might have to cheer for them.

Wow, if there were a batch of words I never in my life thought I'd say, that's at least somewhere near the top.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 27 March 2017, 22:36:42
I hope they have an indoor stadium, or those first few weeks are going to suuuuck.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 March 2017, 16:08:28
On the plus side, maybe instead of different food vendors they'll just have a giant buffet.  ^-^
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Post by: monbvol on 28 March 2017, 17:30:57
Can't forget the slot machines!
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Post by: The Eagle on 28 March 2017, 19:34:48
Can't forget the slot machines!

Do you think the Raiders can at least win at those?   >:D
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 March 2017, 20:41:59
Are you kidding?  They're doing well to win games that aren't rigged.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 29 March 2017, 01:24:31
Raiders won 12 games and made the playoffs last season. so they are already winning.
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Post by: Peter Smith on 13 April 2017, 16:18:36
One of the titans has fallen.

Dan Rooney died today. 84 years old, and greatly active in the League since the 60s.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 27 April 2017, 15:52:28
Saw this, had to share.
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Post by: monbvol on 27 April 2017, 16:19:40
  :-X;D
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Post by: Scotty on 27 April 2017, 16:23:33
Maybe it's just my station showing, but if "payed millions to play for a bad team" is a ruined life, sign me up for the next one.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 27 April 2017, 16:48:53
Maybe it's just my station showing, but if "payed millions to play for a bad team" is a ruined life, sign me up for the next one.
[stupid]
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Post by: Scotty on 27 April 2017, 21:34:06
The Chiefs took Pat Mahomes, and I for one am excited to see what happens when the funslinging starts.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 28 April 2017, 01:48:47
The Chiefs took Pat Mahomes, and I for one am excited to see what happens when the funslinging starts.
They moved up to far to get him if you ask me. Mahomes would still have been there at their original pick, most likely.
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Post by: Scotty on 28 April 2017, 09:30:37
I'm not sure that's what would have actually happened, but even if it was, the way it played out there's no way he doesn't start after Smith's contract expires.  Ithink it was the GM saying to the fans that Mahomes is going to be the franchise QB going forward.  The guy has basically unlimited ceiling (he can chuck it 50 yards in the air throwing off his back foot on the run, who else can do that?), and complaints about Alex Smith have been circulating for a couple seasons.

I think he does just fine, personally, even if the three dozen screens per game is really frustrating to watch.

Mahomes isn't going to be the screen guy.  He'll be fun to watch even if he goes up in flames.
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Post by: Triptych on 28 April 2017, 13:14:57
The Bears threw a whole bunch of picks just to move up one spot, and who did they draft? Ugh...

(https://i.imgur.com/kMG2BBd.jpg)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 April 2017, 13:38:51
I did enjoy the juxtaposition of eating tacos for dinner while the Cowboys selected a guy named Taco.
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Post by: Peter Smith on 28 April 2017, 15:21:36
I will repeat what I say every year for the NFL Draft: Unless you're doing the scouting of a player, or you're in a team's draft room, you have no idea what is involved in the decision making process for getting a player. Included in that is declaring a player would be available later in the draft, as draft boards change with every single pick.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 29 April 2017, 00:36:50
I did enjoy the juxtaposition of eating tacos for dinner while the Cowboys selected a guy named Taco.

Taco, you say? (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A_W5QnO5UGk)

(Warning, that link is the only thing more '80s than Rhonda Snords's hairstyle.)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 April 2017, 05:52:21
Multiple teams have had good drafts so far but I believe Drew Pearson won the draft.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 29 April 2017, 05:56:50
Yeah, he sure did one hell of a job trolling the Philly crowd. The Browns are doing a good job with this draft, which is counter to the past decade or so.
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Post by: DEZOAT on 29 April 2017, 11:14:02
I will repeat what I say every year for the NFL Draft: Unless you're doing the scouting of a player, or you're in a team's draft room, you have no idea what is involved in the decision making process for getting a player. Included in that is declaring a player would be available later in the draft, as draft boards change with every single pick.
I agree with you on this post. But what the heck was the  Bears thinking. Better them then the Lions. :o :D
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Post by: Peter Smith on 31 July 2017, 14:05:48
Did you hear? There's football being played on Thursday night!
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 31 July 2017, 14:07:46
The Cowboys' back-ups are excited to take on the Cardinals' back-ups.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 31 July 2017, 14:13:49
Both would probably feel pretty solid about taking on the Rams starters, I suppose.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 31 July 2017, 16:43:28
With Aaron Donald holding out, yeah.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 01 August 2017, 02:48:29
Well hot diggity dang.  Go Cardinals.
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Post by: Peter Smith on 01 August 2017, 14:58:07
The Cowboys' back-ups are excited to take on the Cardinals' back-ups.

Sadly, the Cards have already confirmed they're sitting their starters.
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2017, 16:27:14
i imagine the 4th quarter of preseason games is what they have playing on loop in hell
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 August 2017, 09:58:01
i imagine the 4th quarter of preseason games is what they have playing on loop in hell

Or the second half of the Super Bowl, if you're in Atlanta.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 02 August 2017, 15:22:01
Sadly, the Cards have already confirmed they're sitting their starters.
With the recent CTE news, is that that much of a surprise that they'll keep their top tier players only for the most crucial stuff...
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Post by: Peter Smith on 02 August 2017, 16:19:15
With the recent CTE news, is that that much of a surprise that they'll keep their top tier players only for the most crucial stuff...

CTE news? Oh, you mean that useless study that was released last month? Where only one brain of the hundred or so donated brains of former football players who showed some level of neurological problems before their death had CTE? I was shocked to see that people who were experiencing mental issues were found to have a defect in the structure of their brain. Well, much like Fry, not very shocked.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 August 2017, 18:11:10
Er... think you had your number backwards.

http://gizmodo.com/shocking-study-finds-traumatic-neurological-disorder-in-1797224900 (http://gizmodo.com/shocking-study-finds-traumatic-neurological-disorder-in-1797224900)
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 03 August 2017, 19:48:48
Just slightly backwards yeah.  Good thing there haven't been a rash of homicides, suicides, and players quitting over the issue or anything for the past few years; it'd be a terrible shame if there really were a medical issue that was killing players.

Seriously, have a little respect next time.
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Post by: Peter Smith on 04 August 2017, 10:31:38
Yes, a missing word from my sentence did change the meaning around. I meant to say that one brain did not show signs of CTE in former football players that were already experiencing neurological issues prior to their death. Doesn't change my position, that people are jumping to conclusions based on a single study. The article that JHB linked to even covers this:

"Mez immediately warned of a few caveats to this study. The researchers didn’t design the study to estimate CTE’s prevalence in football, nor are they trying to establish how football playing can change the severity of the symptoms. There’s a selection bias, meaning all of these players donated their brains to science because there was a worry they might have suffered from the disease—nearly all of them already showed symptoms."

The entire purpose of the study was very simple: what do the brains of people who were subjected to repeated head trauma look like?
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 04 August 2017, 10:54:33
Well, on the plus side the Cowboys won last night so I don't have to hear the moanings of terrified fans predicting dooooom because they don't have a preseason win. I'm sure there will other mountains made of molehills but at least it won't be that one.
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Post by: monbvol on 20 August 2017, 22:38:13
NFC West-Seattle.  Mostly because it has to be someone
NFC North-Vikings.  Packers just seem to be having too many issues and everyone else is questionable at best
NFC South-Tampa.  This one is a toss up but again it has to be someone
NFC East-Dallas.  Dak has shown he is something they can work with and they can protect him and protect their leads

Wild cards-Philidelphia and Green Bay

AFC West-Kansas City.  Denver still hasn't sorted out all their issues, Chargers are going to be a train wreck having moved to a new city, and Oakland is going to be too busy trying to get moved out of Oakland to do anything else
AFC North-Pittsburg.  Bungles might challenge for it but fall short.
AFC South-Indianapolis.  Another toss up that is more going to be decided by someone has to than anyone being good enough to actually deserve it
AFC East-New England.  I mean really why even pretend anyone else is going to even come close.

Wild cards-Miami and Denver

Super Bowl-New England over Dallas and me rooting for a meteor to come down and put me out of my misery.
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Post by: Scotty on 21 August 2017, 12:40:04
Guys I think Pat Mahomes might be good at football.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 21 August 2017, 21:32:48
Further signs of the apocalypse...

...the Browns are leading. won.

Can we get a status check on the other Seals, please?
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Post by: monbvol on 22 August 2017, 00:09:05
The Browns can win games, especially pre-season games.

So no need to proclaim the end is nigh just yet.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 22 August 2017, 09:19:24
Never forget that the Detroit Lions were 4-0 in the preseason prior to their 0-16 year.
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Post by: monbvol on 22 August 2017, 10:05:05
What'll be scary is if they claim the AFC North.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 22 August 2017, 10:46:42
What'll be scary is if they claim the AFC North.

The Lions? I can't think of a reason why not. The Packers are probably a better team, but not enough that it would be a jaw-dropper if Detroit overtook them. The Vikings are still kind of a question mark in a few places (not the least of which is QB, for now), and the Bears are just wreckage at the moment. So... I don't think the Lions will win the North, but I also won't be shocked if they actually do. Really, other than the Patriots, I don't see any team that just stands so far above their division that they're a shoe-in for the division title at this point- and only a handful of teams, maybe half a dozen or so, that I'd discount from having a chance at a wild-card spot at this point (Browns, Bills, Chargers, Jets, etc.). Call it on average three teams in each division, give or take, have a decent shot here.

Welcome to parity- it's as dull as oatmeal, but it means everyone has a chance I guess.
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Post by: Scotty on 22 August 2017, 11:45:20
I'd rather have parity than crowning the AFC East division champion Patriots by Week 3, honestly.  That division is going to be godawful this year.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 22 August 2017, 11:54:31
I'd rather have parity than crowning the AFC East division champion Patriots by Week 3, honestly.  That division is going to be godawful this year.

It is EVERY year. I was discussing this with Redshirt a while back, but other than the year Brady missed the entire season (and even then they went 10-6!), has there been a year since Brady's first full season with the team that they haven't won the division? I feel like there may have been one where the Jets stole it during the Sanchez/Ryan years, but otehr than MAYBE that it feels like that division is just the Patriots' feeding ground- 5-6 easy wins a year to pad them on the way to a first-round bye, in a way that no other team has been able to claim for more than a couple of years at a time.

You look around and see a long bit of dominance by the Colts, the Broncos, the Packers, but a nearly two-decade run like what the Patriots have had is, to me, as much an indictment of the poor management of the other three as it is a testament to the excellence of the Brady/Belichick system. Other great teams over the years have had rivals to challenge them (Seattle/San Francisco, for example), but to consistently see the Patriots dominate their division like this means not only is that team as good as it is, but the other three really have to have spent a lot of time screwing this up. They aren't always TERRIBLE- the Dolphins have had a few decent years, the Jets had the first few Sanchez years, even Buffalo has looked halfway decent at times, but... here we are.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 22 August 2017, 12:21:45
The AFC Eastsucks and the AFC West is gonna be a meat grinder this year with three teams with real playoff chances and the Chargers who are still looking to give Rivers one last chance at glory.
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Post by: Scotty on 22 August 2017, 13:00:02
I have serious doubts about the Broncos' defense being able to bail Siemien and that offense out for a full 16 games, but if they make any progress at all on that front they're definitely WC contenders.

Raiders and Chiefs should have a good fight for it this year, but I think Chiefs will be easy favorites next year barring a monumental collapse.

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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 22 August 2017, 14:06:42
Yeah, I pencil Denver as third in the West this year, barring something weird happening. I'll take the Raiders to win it, with the Chiefs in a dogfight to the end and getting a wild card spot.

In fact...

AFC:

West: Oakland
North: Pittsburgh
East: GEE I ****** WONDER...
South: (quick Hellbie, pick someone at random) ...Tennessee?
Wild Cards: Kansas City, Baltimore

NFC:

West: Seattle
North: Green Bay
East: Washington (UPSET SPECIAL)
South: (again, pick at random) Atlanta
Wild Cards: Dallas, Carolina
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Post by: monbvol on 22 August 2017, 19:23:57
The Lions? I can't think of a reason why not. The Packers are probably a better team, but not enough that it would be a jaw-dropper if Detroit overtook them. The Vikings are still kind of a question mark in a few places (not the least of which is QB, for now), and the Bears are just wreckage at the moment. So... I don't think the Lions will win the North, but I also won't be shocked if they actually do. Really, other than the Patriots, I don't see any team that just stands so far above their division that they're a shoe-in for the division title at this point- and only a handful of teams, maybe half a dozen or so, that I'd discount from having a chance at a wild-card spot at this point (Browns, Bills, Chargers, Jets, etc.). Call it on average three teams in each division, give or take, have a decent shot here.

Welcome to parity- it's as dull as oatmeal, but it means everyone has a chance I guess.

 I meant I'd be scared if the Browns took the AFC North.

Lions taking NFC North, yeah I wouldn't be scared.  That can happen without signaling the end times.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 22 August 2017, 22:16:41
Never forget that the Detroit Lions were 4-0 in the preseason prior to their 0-16 year.
I was going to say the same thing.
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Post by: Scotty on 22 August 2017, 22:19:38
Yeah, I pencil Denver as third in the West this year, barring something weird happening. I'll take the Raiders to win it, with the Chiefs in a dogfight to the end and getting a wild card spot.

In fact...

AFC:

West: Oakland
North: Pittsburgh
East: GEE I ****** WONDER...
South: (quick Hellbie, pick someone at random) ...Tennessee?
Wild Cards: Kansas City, Baltimore

NFC:

West: Seattle
North: Green Bay
East: Washington (UPSET SPECIAL)
South: (again, pick at random) Atlanta
Wild Cards: Dallas, Carolina

After the Preseason so far, I think my predictions will end up being:

AFC:

North: Ravens.  Despite Pittsburgh winning the division last year, I can't forget that they didn't beat the Chiefs so much as the Chiefs let themselves lose that game.  I haven't seen a lot of improvement from that team this year, but the Ravens look better than before.
East: Patriots.  Yawn.  More interesting prediction: Bills for last in the division.
West: Chiefs.  The offense looks improved in all phases this year so far.  The Raiders have to beat the Chiefs to win the division, and that hasn't happened in a while.
South: Titans, by virtue of having a QB whose name I recognize without that being a bad thing.  Texans honorable mention, because apparently having a QB whose name I don't recognize is their biggest major failing as a team.

Wild Cards: Raiders, Texans.  Neither the North nor South look strong enough to put two teams in, with Pittsburgh maybe being good enough.

NFC:

North: Vikings?  I feel like the Vikings are half of the Schrodinger's Cat paradox, in that if you ever observe them their QB dies.
East: Cowboys, for being the most complete team with a good quarterback and very good OL, and also not trying to actively screw over their starting QB (Washington) or being the post-Reid Eagles.
West: Seahawks.  They look good this year, and their competitors are the 49ers (lol), Cardinals (lol), and... um.  Help me out here?
South: Falcons.  28-3 happened, but they did just play in the Super Bowl, and it's not like refs are going to suddenly forget to call roughing on Matt Ryan all season.

Wild Cards: Packers, (comedy option) Lions.  The NFC North plays the NFC South and AFC North this year.  The NFC South recently had the Panthers win three straight division titles without even having three straight winning seasons.  If the Browns suck as bad as they always do, the Bengals repeat last year, and Pittsburgh regresses as much as I think they might, the NFC North is the division to be in.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 22 August 2017, 23:19:35
The Ravens look better than before?

They don't have a quarterback!
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Post by: Scotty on 22 August 2017, 23:45:53
Flacco will be back.  I'd take Flacco starting 13 games to still win the division.

I do not have a high opinion of this Steelers team.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 23 August 2017, 08:27:04
The Ravens look better than before?

They don't have a quarterback!

Who cares? Denver won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago without one, you'll recall- granted, yes, they had future Houston Texans ring-of-famer Brock Osweiler on the bench at the time (if only they'd known what they had!), and the dessicated, noodle-armed remains of something called a Giant Forehead Of Doom Peyton Manning.

A good defense and decent running game can carry a team that can't throw well. And remember, they're only Flacco-less for a few games- plenty of time left to make up ground even if they start off rough.

(Just as important, note that teams WITH a QB don't always have a good path forward. Anyone looking at the Saints and their monstrous air-game and thinking 'Super Bowl'? ;) )
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 23 August 2017, 11:14:47
I'm reminded of when a certain minor league baseball player was Denver's QB.  Defense and a solid running game took that team to a Division title and a win in the Wild Card round, despite effectively a rookiee QB who was a subpar passer.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 23 August 2017, 11:29:17
I'm reminded of when a certain minor league baseball player was Denver's QB.  Defense and a solid running game took that team to a Division title and a win in the Wild Card round, despite effectively a rookiee QB who was a subpar passer.

Somewhere, Brady Quinn and Kyle Orton both screamed out in angst.
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Post by: misterpants on 23 August 2017, 13:21:14
Mildly appropos to the conversation, but does anyone follow SBNation's Chart Party? They just put out a new one regarding NFL team volatility over the last 30ish years.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 24 August 2017, 12:18:04
Speaking of SBNation, did everyone see 17776?
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 24 August 2017, 15:12:39
Heh, I heard about it.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 24 August 2017, 22:32:30
Going through it now. Holy crap.
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Post by: monbvol on 25 August 2017, 23:19:02
Oy Boykin looked bad for Seattle tonight.

The Russel Wilson show looks to be back on track though at least.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 26 August 2017, 15:03:28
Patriots lose Edelman for the season with an ACL tear.

Tell me again how preseason is a good idea?
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Post by: Scotty on 26 August 2017, 15:11:38
Same, except replace "preseason" with "playing football".

It's going to happen, there's nothing to prevent it except not playing football.  How different would their season go if he tore it in Week 3 instead of Preseason Week 3?  In the meantime, there are currently 60 people competing for 25 spots on every NFL team, and the Preseason could very well be the difference between making $40k this year and making $800k.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 August 2017, 18:25:09
It's going to happen, there's nothing to prevent it except not playing football.  How different would their season go if he tore it in Week 3 instead of Preseason Week 3?
Or for that matter, practice.  In all fairness, seeing a preseason game as nothing but a giant practice session between two teams is probably not a bad way to look at it.
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Post by: Meow Liao on 26 August 2017, 21:38:01
Patriots lose Edelman for the season with an ACL tear.

The day after our keeper league cut players.  At least the guy who kept Edelman has first pick.  Crap like that just ruins your whole season.   :(

Meow Liao
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Post by: Sharpnel on 27 August 2017, 01:40:48
Patriots lose Edelman for the season with an ACL tear.

Tell me again how preseason is a good idea?
He tore his ACL when he made the cut right before contact. That kind of injury could have just as easily happened in practice.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 27 August 2017, 15:23:41
Yay go Cardinals!  Also, it's kind of depressing seeing a game advertising "Los Angeles Chargers vs Los Angeles Rams" - all my 40 years of nostalgia aside, how does one city get two teams anyway?
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Post by: ColBosch on 27 August 2017, 17:33:04
Yay go Cardinals!  Also, it's kind of depressing seeing a game advertising "Los Angeles Chargers vs Los Angeles Rams" - all my 40 years of nostalgia aside, how does one city get two teams anyway?

Perhaps try asking Chicago or New York.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 27 August 2017, 21:13:41
And LA is having serious attendance problems, filling up their stadiums. Even with the dunk one the Chargers are using.

As a former San Diego Chargers fan, the kittens of my marrow are pleased.
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Post by: monbvol on 27 August 2017, 22:32:55
I'm actually not surprised.

L.A. stopped being a football town a long time ago.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 August 2017, 12:34:39
Perhaps try asking Chicago or New York.

Bah, the closest in-state game New Yorkers have to go to is Buffalo, some 380 miles away. Now, the metropolis of East Rutherford, New Jersey, clearly is on the same level as Los Angeles.  O0
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Post by: ColBosch on 28 August 2017, 15:35:47
Bah, the closest in-state game New Yorkers have to go to is Buffalo, some 380 miles away. Now, the metropolis of East Rutherford, New Jersey, clearly is on the same level as Los Angeles.  O0

I'm baffled by Green Bay, myself. ;D
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Post by: Scotty on 28 August 2017, 19:22:38
I prefer to blame the owner for GB's situation. ;)
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 August 2017, 21:44:28
I'm baffled by Green Bay, myself. ;D
They've got an awesome ownership model.
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Post by: ColBosch on 28 August 2017, 21:51:50
I think you gentlemen misunderstand: I am baffled by the entire concept of Green Bay. Freaking why? I don't get it.
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 29 August 2017, 00:06:04
The LA vs LA shouldn't be that surprising.  Used to be Rams and Raiders in the 80s and into the 90s.  Its more surprising how LA has been without a team for nearly 20 years...
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Post by: Scotty on 29 August 2017, 00:19:26
Take a look at the Rams' attendance and ratings last year and tell me you're surprised again. ::)

LA didn't want a football team, and still doesn't.  They have two now, and they're at best the fourth and fifth most popular teams in the city, and the list ahead of them includes some college teams.
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Post by: monbvol on 29 August 2017, 01:03:45
*nod*

The main thing that actually surprises me is that the city of L.A. itself thought this was a good idea and allowed it.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 29 August 2017, 01:35:18
Take a look at the Rams' attendance and ratings last year and tell me you're surprised again. ::)

LA didn't want a football team, and still doesn't.  They have two now, and they're at best the fourth and fifth most popular teams in the city, and the list ahead of them includes some college teams.
Using the Greater Los Angles Area (includes Anaheim)
1. Lakers
2. Dodgers
3. Kings
4. Clippers
5. Ducks
6. Galaxy
7/8. Rams
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Post by: Scotty on 29 August 2017, 01:48:08
You forgot the UCLA Bruins and the USC Trojans.

Ducks and Galaxy might be pushing it, but I don't know them well enough to tell.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 29 August 2017, 14:13:04
I think you gentlemen misunderstand: I am baffled by the entire concept of Green Bay. Freaking why? I don't get it.

Have you ever been to Green Bay?  It explains much.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 September 2017, 23:03:41
Good lord... Elway, why did you... what...?
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Post by: monbvol on 02 September 2017, 23:42:55
Yeah that is weird.  There is much better QB talent on the market right now.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 03 September 2017, 05:31:16
Including right on their own team. In the end, if Siemien got hurt in the first couple of weeks, Elway didn't want to stake the season on the shoulders of Kyle Sloter until Lynch came back. He got Oz back cheap ($775K) and only for one year. I expect Oz to get the sack once Lynch is back to being healthy. Oz at least knows the coaches so that's good I guess.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 03 September 2017, 05:32:34
Yeah that is weird.  There is much better QB talent on the market right now.
Where? Surely you don't mean Kaepernick.
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Post by: monbvol on 03 September 2017, 10:51:28
Seattle let Boykin go.  Yeah he's been terrible in the pre-season and made some bad decisions but he still looks to be an upgrade over Oz.

And Siemien on their own roster.

After that I'll admit it does get a little shakey if anyone else is an actual upgrade or not over Oz.
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Post by: Scotty on 03 September 2017, 11:57:01
Where? Surely you don't mean Kaepernick.

Rule #4 prevents me from making a specific comment, but Elway has made his opinion of Kaepernick very clear, and it has nothing to do with his skill as a QB.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 05 September 2017, 08:58:58
Good lord... Elway, why did you... what...?
Osweiler or Ward?
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 05 September 2017, 09:41:32
Osweiler or Ward?

Flip a coin. I'm pretty sure Elway had some kind of aneurysm last week.

Side note, we'll know more today about the fate of the Bus/Dolphins game, but it looks like it's likely either being played Thursday or moved due to the now-Category 5 Hurrican Irma making a beeline for southern Florida.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 07 September 2017, 10:32:09
Fat Guy's week one predictions!

Kansas City at New England
Chiefs might be pretty good this year, but not good enough to beat the Deflatriots. New England.

Arizona at Detroit
This one is going to be close. Coin flip says Arizona.

Atlanta at Chicago
This will be a blowout. Atlanta
   
Baltimore at Cincinnati   
At least the Bungholes have some healthy players. Cincinnati.
   
N.Y. Jets at Buffalo
Jets may be even worse than Cleveland! Buffalo.

Oakland at Tennessee   
I tried to think of one reason that the Raiders could make a game of this, and couldn't. Tennessee.

Philadelphia at Washington   
This will be painful to watch. Philadelphia.

Pittsburgh at Cleveland
It seems the Steelers get a fifth preseason game. Pittsburgh.   

Tampa Bay at Miami   
Ask me again in November when they actually play it.

Indianapolis at L.A. Rams   
Colts don't look to improve any time soon. L.A.

Carolina at San Francisco
Two teams going in opposite directions. Carolina.   

Seattle at Green Bay
Another close one. Seattle.

N.Y. Giants at Dallas   
As good as the Cowboys looked last year, the Giants look to be better this year. New York.

New Orleans at Minnesota   
Gonna be a rough year for the Saints methinks, starting now. Minnesota.

LA Chargers at Denver
And an ever rougher year for the Broncos. L.A.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 07 September 2017, 10:47:46
That looks fun. I'll join in. Winners in bold.

KC @ NE
AZN @ DET
ATL @ CHI
BAL @ CIN
NYJ @ BUF
OAK @ TEN
PHI @ WAS
PIT @ CLE
TB @ MIA (IRMA U SUK)
IND @ LAR
CAR @ SF
SEA @ GB
NYG @ DAL
NO @ MIN
LAC @ DEN
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Post by: Sharpnel on 07 September 2017, 10:54:47
I do this on a Broncos Forum


 KC@NE
 NYJ@BUF
  ATL@CHI
 BAL@CIN
 PIT@CLE
 ARI@DET
 JAX@HOU
  TB@MIA
 OAK@TEN
 PHI@WAS
 IND@LAR
 SEA@GB
 CAR@SF
 NYG@DAL
 NO@MIN
 LAC@DEN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 07 September 2017, 10:58:38
KC@NE
NYJ@BUF
ATL@CHI
BAL@CIN
PIT@CLE
ARI@DET
JAX@HOU
TB@MIA-whenever it is finally played at least
OAK@TEN
PHI@WAS
IND@LAR
SEA@GB
CAR@SF
NYG@DAL
NO@MIN
LAC@DEN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 07 September 2017, 20:37:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cR-WiGKZtg
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 07 September 2017, 22:57:22
I posted that video as a joke oh my god Hightower I'm so sorry.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 07 September 2017, 23:45:15
Triple postin' but even the Patriots can't hold me back

I don't know what game I'm watching, but it's not the same one I flipped to a couple hours ago.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 08 September 2017, 04:33:20
Well, so much for all those NFL talking heads who thought the Pats were going to go undefeated. As a Broncos fan, I'm both happy that the Pats lost and sad that the Chiefs won. KC did look pretty good tonight, though.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 08 September 2017, 22:08:30
Well, Jets at Bills - which many derided as the worst game of the week (and up 'till last night, rightly so!) - now becomes a battle for sole possession of the lead of the AFC East!   :o

Sometimes the NFL can be truly awesome. This is one of those times.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 08 September 2017, 22:47:56
If the Jets and Bills tie, do the Dolphins end up in 1st place without even playing a game?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 09 September 2017, 15:06:54
A tie would technically be .500. Having not yet played a game would be .000.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ColBosch on 09 September 2017, 17:28:57
Yup. If the Jets and Bills tie, the Dolphins end up in last place without even playing a game. ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 09 September 2017, 20:23:33
Yup. If the Jets and Bills tie, the Dolphins end up in last place without even playing a game. ;)

Actually I think you'll find that would be the Patriots. ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Bosefius on 11 September 2017, 10:57:54
And the Bills are in first place of the AFC East, will wonders never cease.

Most amusing (to me) stat out of Sundays games is that Ben Roethlisberger now has more wins in Cleveland than any Browns QB since 1999.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 11 September 2017, 11:57:45
What shocked was the Rams scoring 46 points and the Jags getting 10 sacks
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 11 September 2017, 13:15:13
And the Bills are in first place of the AFC East, will wonders never cease.

Most amusing (to me) stat out of Sundays games is that Ben Roethlisberger now has more wins in Cleveland than any Browns QB since 1999.

Don't take this wrong, but... I read this post, I didn't believe it could possibly be true, so I went looking.

Ben Roethlisberger: 11 wins in Cleveland.

Derek Anderson: 10 wins in Cleveland.

...holy shit. That blows my mind. I mean it makes sense the more I think about it- as often as they go through QBs before giving up and moving on to the next retread failure, no one has time to really gain many wins in a Browns uniform. But... that the highest number was 10, that is just magnificent. The sheer scale of systemic, two-decade-old failure is summed up perfectly by this one stat.

(Now, that said, I also was impressed with the Browns yesterday- they lost, but they sure gave the Steelers a tougher day than I figured they would. Maybe there's hope?)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 11 September 2017, 14:07:54
It boggles my mind that there are four different AFC teams that could all reasonably compete for the title of worst in the NFL.

And none of them are in the West. ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 12 September 2017, 12:26:47
That looks fun. I'll join in. Winners in bold.

KC @ NE
AZN @ DET
ATL @ CHI
BAL @ CIN
NYJ @ BUF
OAK @ TEN
PHI @ WAS
PIT @ CLE
TB @ MIA (IRMA U SUK)
IND @ LAR
CAR @ SF
SEA @ GB
NYG @ DAL
NO @ MIN
LAC @ DEN

10-4 for the weekend. Not too shabby overall, though the Giants and Bengals picks were sure duds. Washington got hosed by the refs at the end of their game... and while I definitely picked Thursday wrong I'm willing to bet most of the country did as well. I'll take 10-4 happily. (Not picking on next week until we hear whether Jacksonville will be able to host their game or not)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 12 September 2017, 23:10:46
KC@NE
NYJ@BUF
ATL@CHI
BAL@CIN
PIT@CLE
ARI@DET
JAX@HOU
TB@MIA-whenever it is finally played at least
OAK@TEN
PHI@WAS
IND@LAR
SEA@GB
CAR@SF
NYG@DAL
NO@MIN
LAC@DEN

Well that isn't too bad.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 14 September 2017, 11:45:27
*crawls out of his flu bunker long enough to make picks*

HOU @ CIN
BUF @ CAR
CHI @ TB
MIN @ PIT
ARZ @ IND
NE @ NO
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ KC
TEN @ JAX
NYJ @ OAK
MIA @ LAC
DAL @ DEN (NOTE: This one hurts to pick.)
SF @ SEA
WAS @ LAR
GB @ ATL
DET @ NYG
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 September 2017, 11:52:52
If only Elway would have opened up his wallet a bit for Tony Romo....
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 14 September 2017, 12:31:01
HOU @ CIN
BUF @ CAR
CHI @ TB
MIN @ PIT
ARZ @ IND
NE @ NO
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ KC
TEN @ JAX
NYJ @ OAK
MIA @ LAC
DAL @ DEN
SF @ SEA
WAS @ LAR
GB @ ATL
DET @ NYG
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 14 September 2017, 12:41:37

HOU @ CIN
BUF @ CAR
CHI @ TB
MIN @ PIT
ARZ @ IND
NE @ NO
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ KC
TEN @ JAX
NYJ @ OAK
MIA @ LAC
DAL @ DEN
SF @ SEA
WAS @ LAR
GB @ ATL
DET @ NYG
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 17 September 2017, 09:35:41
HOU @ CIN
BUF @ CAR
CHI @ TB
MIN @ PIT
ARZ @ IND
NE @ NO
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ KC
TEN @ JAX
NYJ @ OAK
MIA @ LAC
DAL @ DEN
SF @ SEA
WAS @ LAR
GB @ ATL
DET @ NYG
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 17 September 2017, 11:27:02
That's cheating predicting Thursday's game after the fact. :P
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 17 September 2017, 12:00:55
If only Elway would have opened up his wallet a bit for Tony Romo....

More 'if only Jerry Jones hadn't dicked everyone around instead of following through on his promise of releasing the guy'. But yeah, definitely would have made today's game more entertaining.

By the way, most of the country will get to see Denver and Dallas at 4:30 EST on Fox. Me? Nope. No, I have the showdown between Washington and the Rams.

I CAN FEEL YOUR ENVY THROUGH MY SCREEEEEEEEN.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 17 September 2017, 12:35:34
Chiefs play Eagles today, and despite the mountain of past evidence and common sense that Alex Smith won't be able to repeat a performance like last week I'm still absolutely looking forward to watching it happen.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 17 September 2017, 20:08:33
The Chiefs had better not make it a habit to keep games close until midway into the 4th quarter.  Still, I'm encouraged that we still won against a team that got the lion's share of the lucky bounces in that game.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 17 September 2017, 23:00:27
Seattle seems to have similar problems.

Carson and Wilson basically won that game today for them by wearing down San Francisco's defense.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 18 September 2017, 03:50:33
And the Cowboys are not the team that the experts thought they were. Zeke got 8 yards rushing against one of the worst run defenses in football. Siemian was on fire in the first half.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 18 September 2017, 08:56:21
That's cheating predicting Thursday's game after the fact. :P

I'd have picked them anyways.   :P

After how badly I embarrassed myself last week, I was hesitant to make picks this week and waited 'till the last minute before deciding "the Hell with it" .

Even if I blow tonight's game, I've improved significantly.

Shocker of the week: What the Hell happened to Dallas?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 18 September 2017, 09:13:32
Shocker of the week: What the Hell happened to Dallas?

The obvious answer is 'The Denver defense', but there IS more to it than that. It's hard to believe that the always-dominant Dallas running game was as meek as it was- eight yards (8!!!) for Ezekiel Elliott! TOM BRADY had nine on the day, and he's a 40-year-old non-mobile QB! But that can't be blamed solely on Von Miller and his band of orange-clad lunatics- a lot of it, sure, but Elliott also didn't GET the ball often. Part of that, of course, is having to rely on the passing game more when you're behind in the second half, but there never was a strong feeling that the Cowboys were going to use their best weapon, even early.

Very weird game, all around. VERY pleased with the results, mind you, but weird game. If you'd told me the first QB in five years to hang four TDs on Dallas was Trevor Freaking Siemian, I wouldn't have believed you. Here we are.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 18 September 2017, 09:16:14
Dallas also ran out of cornerbacks and the defense just couldn't hold up. Like Zeek I quit on my team, though at least I lasted midway through the 3rd Quarter.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 18 September 2017, 17:47:11
And the Cowboys are not the team that the experts thought they were. Zeke got 8 yards rushing against one of the worst run defenses in football. Siemian was on fire in the first half.
They're not that bad.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 September 2017, 00:18:15
It's amazing that the loss of one player can take a team that was predicted to be a Super Bowl contender to 0-2. Last week they lose to the Cowboys, who proved yesterday that they aren't all that. Tonight they lost to the Lions, who are the freaking Lions!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 19 September 2017, 00:32:28
HOU @ CIN
BUF @ CAR
CHI @ TB
MIN @ PIT
ARZ @ IND
NE @ NO
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ KC
TEN @ JAX
NYJ @ OAK
MIA @ LAC
DAL @ DEN
SF @ SEA
WAS @ LAR
GB @ ATL
DET @ NYG

I think I'm getting better at this.

To be honest though I didn't think Denver would have that kind of offensive showing but boy was I wrong.  A wrong I enjoy being mind you.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 19 September 2017, 01:38:56
Looking at the Chiefs schedule going forward, and being hopelessly optimistic about it, it feels like going merely 10-6 would be a catastrophic failure.  This is largely because playing both the NFC East, AFC East, Texans, and Chargers looks like nine wins by itself, but that's why we actually play the season.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 September 2017, 09:14:14
*crawls out of his flu bunker long enough to make picks*

HOU @ CIN
BUF @ CAR
CHI @ TB
MIN @ PIT
ARZ @ IND
NE @ NO
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ KC
TEN @ JAX
NYJ @ OAK
MIA @ LAC
DAL @ DEN (NOTE: This one hurts to pick.) AND FEELS GREAT TO BE WRONG!!!
SF @ SEA
WAS @ LAR
GB @ ATL
DET @ NYG

Not bad, not bad.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 September 2017, 09:47:14
HOU @ CIN
BUF @ CAR
CHI @ TB
MIN @ PIT
ARZ @ IND
NE @ NO
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ KC
TEN @ JAX
NYJ @ OAK
MIA @ LAC
DAL @ DEN
SF @ SEA
WAS @ LAR
GB @ ATL
DET @ NYG

Better than last week. Much better!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 September 2017, 10:32:20
Might as well get this done now before the week gets away from me.

LAR @ SF
BAL @ JAX
DEN @ BUF
PIT @ CHI
NO @ CAR
TB @ MIN
CLE @ IND
MIA @ NYJ
HOU @ NE
ATL @ DET
NYG @ PHI
SEA @ TEN
KC @ LAC
CIN @ GB
OAK @ WAS
DAL @ ARZ
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 September 2017, 10:44:16
Here's what I did for my pick-em league this week:

LAR @ SF
BAL @ JAX
DEN @ BUF
PIT @ CHI
NO @ CAR
TB @ MIN
CLE @ IND
MIA @ NYJ
HOU @ NE
ATL @ DET
NYG @ PHI
SEA @ TEN
KC @ LAC
CIN @ GB
OAK @ WAS
DAL @ ARZ
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 September 2017, 11:04:53
Here goes nothing!

LAR @ SF
BAL @ JAX
DEN @ BUF
PIT @ CHI
NO @ CAR
TB @ MIN
CLE @ IND
MIA @ NYJ
HOU @ NE
ATL @ DET
NYG @ PHI
SEA @ TEN
KC @ LAC
CIN @ GB
OAK @ WAS
DAL @ ARZ
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 September 2017, 11:08:16
Wow, looks like we're all going to sink or swim together this week.

Diseased minds think alike it seems...
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 19 September 2017, 11:46:14
LAR @ SF
BAL @ JAX
DEN @ BUF
PIT @ CHI
NO @ CAR
TB @ MIN
CLE @ IND
MIA @ NYJ
HOU @ NE
ATL @ DET
NYG @ PHI
SEA @ TEN
KC @ LAC
CIN @ GB
OAK @ WAS
DAL @ ARZ

Taking a few chances here but why not?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Triptych on 19 September 2017, 12:37:21
Only two games and the Bears are pretty much done for the season!  >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 September 2017, 12:47:36
Only two games and the Bears are pretty much done for the season!  >:(

And that's different from most other years how?   ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ColBosch on 19 September 2017, 13:04:33
Only two games and the Bears are pretty much done for the season!  >:(

I love Chicago. This is a fantastic town. I've been here for two Blackhawks championships and the Cubs making history.

That said, the Bears suck. ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 19 September 2017, 13:24:19
Chicago is baffling to explain why they seem to be consistently bad.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Triptych on 19 September 2017, 13:58:23
Chicago is baffling to explain why they seem to be consistently bad.
It starts at the top. The McCaskeys are clueless on how to run an NFL franchise. So sad.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ColBosch on 19 September 2017, 15:33:49
It starts at the top. The McCaskeys are clueless on how to run an NFL franchise. So sad.

Exactly. The owners have made many, many boneheaded decisions, so the entire organization is suffering from a serious malaise. Deep down, nobody gives a shit anymore.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 19 September 2017, 22:48:47
I missed last week's picks, so here are this week's

 LAR@SF
 BAL@JAX
 DEN@BUF
 NO@CAR
 PIT@CHI
 ATL@DET
 CLE@IND
 TB@MIN
 HOU@NE
 MIA@NYJ
 NYG@PHI
 SEA@TEN
 CIN@GB
 KC@LAC
 OAK@WAS
 DAL@ARI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Gardensnake on 20 September 2017, 21:11:34
I missed last week's picks, so here are this week's

 LAR@SF
 BAL@JAX
 DEN@BUF
 NO@CAR
 PIT@CHI
 ATL@DET
 CLE@IND
 TB@MIN
 HOU@NE
 MIA@NYJ
 NYG@PHI
 SEA@TEN
 CIN@GB
 KC@LAC
 OAK@WAS
 DAL@ARI
I take it the teams in bold print are your picks to win? If so, I don't really see any that can argue with. I think Tampa Bay vs. Minnesota will be close though and I wouldn't be too surprised if either team won that one.
William
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 21 September 2017, 12:27:51
Yeah, any pick involving the Vikes right now is a tough one- same as last week, it hinges on whether Bradford is able to go or not. With him, I think they'd have had a real chance to beat the Steelers- without, it was never really in question. Same here- with Bradford, they can make a pretty good game of it at least, and without the Chiefs will have no trouble. Probably the toughest team to pick right now.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 24 September 2017, 16:41:07
Well. So. I suspect, when all is said and done, my picks (and most of the rest of you, let's be real here) are going to feature a little more red than usual. I seem to have picked a few wrong here...  #P
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 24 September 2017, 16:53:07
Brady does it again, dammit.  Oh well, that's 50 games saved in the 4th/OT.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 24 September 2017, 19:13:05
It's incredibly frustrating to watch this KC Offense today.  Dustin Colquitt is definitely saving a lot of points, but a 3-0 turnover margin should probably mean more than a single score lead.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 24 September 2017, 23:41:57
As a San Diegan who worked at the Murph when they went to the Super Bowl, as long as the Chargers continue to lose, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 25 September 2017, 02:17:16

This past week sucked

 LAR@SF
BAL@JAX
DEN@BUF
 NO@CAR
 PIT@CHI
 ATL@DET
 CLE@IND
 TB@MIN

 HOU@NE
MIA@NYJ
 NYG@PHI
SEA@TEN
 CIN@GB
 KC@LAC
OAK@WAS
 DAL@ARI (still to be played)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 25 September 2017, 08:04:06
If Arizona wins tonight, it'll be even worse than week one for me.

Why the hell did I start this to begin with anyway?  ???

Interestingly, there's only two teams remaining without a loss (KC ans ATL). Five teams however, have yet to win (LAC, NYG, SF and the state of Ohio...because Ohio starts and ends in O!).
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 25 September 2017, 09:26:15
Every time I see LAC I keep thinking of the Clippers....
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: CrossfirePilot on 25 September 2017, 11:43:03
Every time I see LAC I keep thinking of the Clippers....

Light Auto Cannon?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 25 September 2017, 12:20:16
So... how bout them Chiefs?  8)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 25 September 2017, 12:51:06
So... how bout them Chiefs?  8)

You played the Chargers.

I mean, look, they've been good- that shellacking of the Pats was hilarious. But if you're coming on here on a Monday hoping for people to fawn over beating up the CHARGERS... play someone decent, then we'll talk. All you guys did was have a bye week, really.  ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 25 September 2017, 14:16:15
That Bears game sure was interesting.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 25 September 2017, 14:17:58
That Bears game sure was interesting.

Oh god, who was that idiot for the Bears returning the failed kick and slowing down at the end to show off? I didn't see his name, but I'm pretty sure I'd have strangled his ass to death if I were his coach. If they'd lost that game in OT, you look back at the four points he cost you and start drawing up firing squad options.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 25 September 2017, 14:20:03
Oh god, who was that idiot for the Bears returning the failed kick and slowing down at the end to show off? I didn't see his name, but I'm pretty sure I'd have strangled his ass to death if I were his coach. If they'd lost that game in OT, you look back at the four points he cost you and start drawing up firing squad options.

Cooper. Though the Steelers' punter managed to help him out with that batting call. There was a lot of brain dead football in that game.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 25 September 2017, 14:32:43
In the punter's defense, there was another Bear who could have fell on the ball for a touchdown if he didn't bat it.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: CrossfirePilot on 25 September 2017, 14:35:18
You would think that after that game a couple years ago (Ravens vs Broncos I think) where there was a interception and the dork showboated and dropped it before the endzone, just to have it recovered by the opposing team that coaches would be telling every player "if you do something stupid like that, you are going to be the tackling dummy for the next month of practice"
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 25 September 2017, 14:51:32
I remember Deshaun Jackson doing it when he was with the Eagles, and I thought Andy Reid was going to kill him and cook him right there on the sidelines.

It's one thing if it's some big defensive lineman who recovers a ball, has to run 90 yards, and by the time he gets there he's just totally gassed. I get that- last few yards the other team catches up to you, makes a move for the ball, that I get. Just showboating like what this nimrod was trying to do though? Man, you don't EVER slow down until you've crossed that end zone line. Probably best to slow down after the OTHER side of the end zone just in case. Get the points, THEN act foolish.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: CrossfirePilot on 25 September 2017, 14:57:49
I remember Deshaun Jackson doing it when he was with the Eagles, and I thought Andy Reid was going to kill him and cook him right there on the sidelines.

It's one thing if it's some big defensive lineman who recovers a ball, has to run 90 yards, and by the time he gets there he's just totally gassed. I get that- last few yards the other team catches up to you, makes a move for the ball, that I get. Just showboating like what this nimrod was trying to do though? Man, you don't EVER slow down until you've crossed that end zone line. Probably best to slow down after the OTHER side of the end zone just in case. Get the points, THEN act foolish.

Or even better. Cross the endzone with the ball.  Then hand the ball to the ref. 
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 25 September 2017, 15:58:56
I'm still up in the air between Cooper and Odell "I don't care if we have to kick it off from the 5 yard line" Beckham Jr. being the biggest diva of the day....
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 25 September 2017, 19:04:16
I remember Deshaun Jackson doing it when he was with the Eagles, and I thought Andy Reid was going to kill him and cook him right there on the sidelines.

It's one thing if it's some big defensive lineman who recovers a ball, has to run 90 yards, and by the time he gets there he's just totally gassed. I get that- last few yards the other team catches up to you, makes a move for the ball, that I get. Just showboating like what this nimrod was trying to do though? Man, you don't EVER slow down until you've crossed that end zone line. Probably best to slow down after the OTHER side of the end zone just in case. Get the points, THEN act foolish.

Counterpoint: showboating is hilarious no matter what the outcome ends up being.  Either you get the best Dumb Moment of the game, or you get a team getting royally dunked on.  Both of these are good outcomes.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: misterpants on 25 September 2017, 20:29:26
Oh god, who was that idiot for the Bears returning the failed kick and slowing down at the end to show off? I didn't see his name, but I'm pretty sure I'd have strangled his ass to death if I were his coach. If they'd lost that game in OT, you look back at the four points he cost you and start drawing up firing squad options.

Only way it could have been more hilarious would be if they were facing Dallas.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 25 September 2017, 21:44:14
Oh god, who was that idiot for the Bears returning the failed kick and slowing down at the end to show off? I didn't see his name, but I'm pretty sure I'd have strangled his ass to death if I were his coach. If they'd lost that game in OT, you look back at the four points he cost you and start drawing up firing squad options.

If I were coach he'd be hand washing the entire team's jockstraps after every game and practice for the rest of the season!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 25 September 2017, 21:50:18
As a San Diegan who worked at the Murph when they went to the Super Bowl, as long as the Chargers continue to lose, I'll be happy.
Preach it, amigo.  El Cajon reporting in, and thank you for remembering the True Name of the stadium.

So what're they gonna do with the place now that the Padres have that downtown park?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 25 September 2017, 21:54:06
Preach it, amigo.  El Cajon reporting in, and thank you for remembering the True Name of the stadium.

So what're they gonna do with the place now that the Padres have that downtown park?

Preserve it exactly as it is, as a monument to Mark Spanos's shame when the league forces him back to San Diego after two miserable seasons of sub-10,000 attendance.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 25 September 2017, 23:39:12
Preserve it exactly as it is, as a monument to Mark Spanos's shame when the league forces him back to San Diego after two miserable seasons of sub-10,000 attendance.
Huh.
Quote
The Chargers failed to sell out their first home game in the StubHub Center, a 27,000-seat stadium most notably used for Major League Soccer
Be right back, laughing uncontrollably.

Ahahaha, okay, that was needed.  Thank you.  Wow, that's absolutely terrible; I just...well, someone's gotta be the forgettable losers, and Cleveland deserves a break.  Meanwhile, ugh, that holding call against the Cardinals in the first quarter really blew the team momentum.  Even with some epic catches by Fitzgerald, it just wasn't happening.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 25 September 2017, 23:54:17
Preach it, amigo.  El Cajon reporting in, and thank you for remembering the True Name of the stadium.

So what're they gonna do with the place now that the Padres have that downtown park?

Closing it in 2018 some time, I understand.  Aztecs will play football at the Padres ballpark for a year after than. Everything else is up in the air.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 26 September 2017, 11:10:43
I admit I only watched part of the second half last night, but... Larry Fitzgerald really isn't human. I refuse to believe it. No mere mortal could make some of those catches he was making.

Aaaaanywho, let's take our medicine.



LAR @ SF
BAL @ JAX
DEN @ BUF
PIT @ CHI
NO @ CAR
TB @ MIN
CLE @ IND
MIA @ NYJ
HOU @ NE
ATL @ DET
NYG @ PHI
SEA @ TEN
KC @ LAC
CIN @ GB
OAK @ WAS
DAL @ ARZ

8-8 is probably good enough if you're Jeff Fisher, but not gonna fly here.  :P
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 26 September 2017, 13:35:22
Well, other than the Browns-Colts I had the same picks as you, so at 9-7 I could win the NFC West....
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 26 September 2017, 13:48:50
LAR @ SF
BAL @ JAX
DEN @ BUF
PIT @ CHI
NO @ CAR
TB @ MIN
CLE @ IND
MIA @ NYJ
HOU @ NE
ATL @ DET
NYG @ PHI
SEA @ TEN
KC @ LAC
CIN @ GB
OAK @ WAS
DAL @ ARZ

Yeah that kind of hurt.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 26 September 2017, 15:32:49
Well, other than the Browns-Colts I had the same picks as you, so at 9-7 I could win the NFC West....

And our picks were identical, so it's week one all over again.   >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 26 September 2017, 17:43:01
Here are my Week 4 picks


 CHI@GB
 NO@MIA
 BUF@ATL
 CIN@CLE
 LAR@DAL
 DET@MIN
 CAR@NE
 JAX@NYJ
 PIT@BAL
 TEN@HOU
 SF@ARI
 PHI@LAC
 NYG@TB
 OAK@DEN
 IND@SEA
 WAS@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 26 September 2017, 18:32:24
CHI@GB
NO@MIA
BUF@ATL
CIN@CLE
LAR@DAL
DET@MIN
CAR@NE
JAX@NYJ
PIT@BAL
TEN@HOU
SF@ARI
PHI@LAC
NYG@TB
OAK@DEN
IND@SEA
WAS@KC

I expect this to hurt again.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 27 September 2017, 08:46:03
CHI@GB
NO@MIA
BUF@ATL
CIN@CLE
LAR@DAL
DET@MIN
CAR@NE
JAX@NYJ
PIT@BAL
TEN@HOU
SF@ARI
PHI@LAC
NYG@TB
OAK@DEN
IND@SEA
WAS@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 27 September 2017, 08:54:19
Why am I still doing this? There are easier ways to humiliate myself.

 CHI@GB
 NO@MIA
 BUF@ATL
CIN@CLE
 LAR@DAL
 DET@MIN
 CAR@NE
 JAX@NYJ
 PIT@BAL
 TEN@HOU
 SF@ARI
 PHI@LAC
 NYG@TB
OAK@DEN
 IND@SEA
 WAS@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 27 September 2017, 09:31:55
 CHI@GB
 NO@MIA
 BUF@ATL
 CIN@CLE
 LAR@DAL
 DET@MIN
 CAR@NE
 JAX@NYJ
 PIT@BAL
 TEN@HOU
 SF@ARI
 PHI@LAC
 NYG@TB
 OAK@DEN
 IND@SEA
 WAS@KC

I'm really looking forward to week 6 when I can predict a Giants-Broncos game ending in a 0-0 tie and having more sacks than first downs....
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 27 September 2017, 09:46:58
fear not, i'm here to boost your self esteem with my incompetence!

CHI@GB
NO@MIA
BUF@ATL
CIN@CLE [the only losers here are people who watch the game]
LAR@DAL
DET@MIN
CAR@NE
JAX@NYJ [I lied. this is the worst game]
PIT@BAL
TEN@HOU
SF@ARI
PHI@LAC
NYG@TB
OAK@DEN
IND@SEA
WAS@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Triptych on 29 September 2017, 00:47:49
So another stink up by the Bears and two questions comes to mind..

Why does John Fox still have a job?

Why isn't Glennon relegated to the practice squad?

If you dont want to start Trubisky then put Mark Sanchez in for chrissakes... I'd rather see the Buttfumbler than Napoleon Dynamite!  >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 September 2017, 03:31:47
Well, Glennon isn't elidgable for the practice squad, having been active for too many games.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: The Eagle on 29 September 2017, 15:47:02
I'm going to laugh at everyone (except Monbvol) when the Bills pull out another win this week.   ;D




Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 September 2017, 15:49:59
Fine by me. It wouldn't be the first time I've been laughed at.

This week.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 29 September 2017, 16:20:18
I'm going to laugh at everyone (except Monbvol) when the Bills pull out another win this week.   ;D

do you think i picked the falcons with ANY confidence?  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: The Eagle on 01 October 2017, 16:09:29
I'm going to laugh at everyone (except Monbvol) when the Bills pull out another win this week.   ;D


 :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 01 October 2017, 16:16:41
The Patriots also lost, and are now .500 through four games.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 01 October 2017, 16:50:03
And the Cowboys!

Even though I picked both them and the Deflatriots to win, I'm always happy to see both lose.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 01 October 2017, 16:52:45
Worst call of the week rolling back the AZ touchdown, right there.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 01 October 2017, 20:05:51
Chargers lose again!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The banner flown over the stadium during the game!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 02 October 2017, 05:18:31
What was the banner?  I was watching the 49ers lose just a little harder than the Cardinals did.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 02 October 2017, 10:39:40
I wonder how long it's been since all 4 of my teams won in the same week.

Iggles won, Broncos won.

Whoever was playing Dallas won, and whoever is playing New England won.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 02 October 2017, 11:39:58
What was the banner?  I was watching the 49ers lose just a little harder than the Cardinals did.

"If you want to see a real sellout, look in the mirror."
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 October 2017, 12:04:33
The Chargers banner of the week is now my favorite part of the NFL season.  ;D

(Bonus: The FAA ruled the guy can keep flying it because the Chargers' crowds- based on their own reported numbers- are too small to meet the qualifications for declaring the airspace a no-fly zone.)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 02 October 2017, 12:07:14
The Chargers banner of the week is now my favorite part of the NFL season.  ;D

(Bonus: The FAA ruled the guy can keep flying it because the Chargers' crowds- based on their own reported numbers- are too small to meet the qualifications for declaring the airspace a no-fly zone.)

I got a hoot out of the Eagles having home field advantage (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20890048/fans-philadelphia-eagles-made-los-angeles-chargers-feel-visiting-team-home) at L.A.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 October 2017, 12:14:43
I got a hoot out of the Eagles having home field advantage (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20890048/fans-philadelphia-eagles-made-los-angeles-chargers-feel-visiting-team-home) at L.A.

That was really something. You get used to seeing Steelers fans and such show up in opposing stadiums in respectable numbers, but man, that crowd was solidly pro-Philly. It was hard to see Chargers fans in a lot of sections. That's a new one to me, I can't think of ever having seen a home crowd that anti-home team.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 02 October 2017, 12:21:49
(Bonus: The FAA ruled the guy can keep flying it because the Chargers' crowds- based on their own reported numbers- are too small to meet the qualifications for declaring the airspace a no-fly zone.)
I checked, their claim of a sellout crowd was 25,000 - the limit's 30, so there's literally nothing that they can do.  Banner of the week, where do we crowdfund it?!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 02 October 2017, 12:59:35
I'm waiting with anxious glee for them to lie and announce a crowd of 30K just to stop the banner, and then get dinged by the fire marshall for exceedingly capacity.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 02 October 2017, 21:38:52
Chiefs making me nervous, but if this game follows the rest of the season's script so far Smith is about to lead a bumbling and hilarious but still flawlessly executed march down the field as time expires to go into halftime down by 3, and then in the 4th quarter scores 21 unanswered.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 02 October 2017, 22:03:25
Well, I got the margin right, at least.  Feel bad for the kicker, though.  Don't even know his name.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 02 October 2017, 23:28:40
Deeeeeefinitely not feeling great about the chances of this ending poorly.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 02 October 2017, 23:51:36
And then there was one.

Hell of a game. Shame someone had to lose this!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 02 October 2017, 23:56:00
My favorite part of that Ultimate Garbage Time (tm) TD is that it meant KC both covered the spread and destroyed the Over/Under.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 03 October 2017, 00:08:57
Just as bad as last week (and week one!), my humiliation continues!  :-[

 CHI@GB
 NO@MIA
 BUF@ATL
CIN@CLE
 LAR@DAL Never so happy to be wrong!
 DET@MIN
 CAR@NE Until now!  ;D
 JAX@NYJ
 PIT@BAL
 TEN@HOU
 SF@ARI
 PHI@LAC
 NYG@TB
OAK@DEN
 IND@SEA
 WAS@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 03 October 2017, 01:00:54
CHI@GB
NO@MIA
BUF@ATL
CIN@CLE
LAR@DAL
DET@MIN
CAR@NE
JAX@NYJ
PIT@BAL
TEN@HOU
SF@ARI
PHI@LAC
NYG@TB
OAK@DEN
IND@SEA
WAS@KC

To be honest that did not hurt as much as I thought it would.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 03 October 2017, 03:26:17
I got 10 right, so I'm good.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 03 October 2017, 08:27:51
CHI@GB
NO@MIA
BUF@ATL
CIN@CLE
LAR@DAL
DET@MIN
CAR@NE
JAX@NYJ
PIT@BAL
TEN@HOU
SF@ARI
PHI@LAC
NYG@TB
OAK@DEN
IND@SEA
WAS@KC

Know what? That wasn't a bad week overall for me. A few surprises like Carolina and Buffalo, an asterisk on that Jets win (Jaguars got hosed by that weird unsportsmanlike call in OT)... I'll take this happily.

Now comes the dark week... no Broncos. What schedule-monkey decided to give teams a bye week in the first full week of October, anyway?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 03 October 2017, 14:01:55
Know what? That wasn't a bad week overall for me. A few surprises like Carolina and Buffalo, an asterisk on that Jets win (Jaguars got hosed by that weird unsportsmanlike call in OT)... I'll take this happily.

Now comes the dark week... no Broncos. What schedule-monkey decided to give teams a bye week in the first full week of October, anyway?

The same one that took Miami and whatever else team and gave them a Week 1 bye instead of playing somewhere else, or even canceling it unless there were playoff implications.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 03 October 2017, 22:34:07
9-7. Jeff Fischer and I should hang out

fear not, i'm here to boost your self esteem with my incompetence!

CHI@GB
NO@MIA
BUF@ATL
CIN@CLE [the only losers here are people who watch the game]
LAR@DAL
DET@MIN
CAR@NE

JAX@NYJ [I lied. this is the worst game] it was the worst game.
PIT@BAL
TEN@HOU

SF@ARI
PHI@LAC
NYG@TB
OAK@DEN
IND@SEA
WAS@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 04 October 2017, 08:42:53
NE @ TB
SF @ IND
NYJ @ CLE
JAX @ PIT
LAC @ NYG
BUF @ CIN
CAR @ DET
TEN @ MIA
ARZ @ PHI
BAL @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
GB @ DAL
KC @ HOU
MIN @ CHI

Note that we have teams on bye week starting this week (WAY too early)- in this case ATL, NO, WAS, and DEN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 04 October 2017, 09:55:49
WAS really needs it after that moving performance of "Bury My Team at Wounded Knee" on Monday night.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 04 October 2017, 10:07:14
Trying to be objective hasn't helped me, so time to make some picks with my heart instead of my head.

NE @ TB
SF @ IND
NYJ @ CLE
JAX @ PIT
LAC @ NYG - Somebody has to win this?
BUF @ CIN
CAR @ DET
TEN @ MIA
ARZ @ PHI
BAL @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
GB @ DAL
KC @ HOU
MIN @ CHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 04 October 2017, 10:26:51
Here are my Week 5 picks


 NE@TB
 BUF@CIN
 NYJ@CLE (feel sorry for the fans watching this game in the stadium)
 CAR@DET
 SF@IND
 TEN@MIA
 LAC@NYG (feel sorry for the fans watching this game in the stadium, too)
 ARI@PHI
 JAX@PIT
 BAL@OAK
 SEA@LAR
 GB@DAL
 KC@HOU
 MIN@CHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 04 October 2017, 11:08:46
NE @ TB
SF @ IND
NYJ @ CLE
JAX @ PIT
LAC @ NYG
BUF @ CIN
CAR @ DET
TEN @ MIA
ARZ @ PHI
BAL @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
GB @ DAL
KC @ HOU
MIN @ CHI

I suspect this will hurt less.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: The Eagle on 04 October 2017, 16:57:02
WAS really needs it after that moving performance of "Bury My Team at Wounded Knee" on Monday night.

Too soon?   :))
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 05 October 2017, 16:42:29
NE @ TB
SF @ IND
NYJ @ CLE
JAX @ PIT
LAC @ NYG
BUF @ CIN
CAR @ DET
TEN @ MIA
ARZ @ PHI
BAL @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
GB @ DAL
KC @ HOU
MIN @ CHI

Winners were chosen under protest for some of these games because the rules do not allow for both teams to lose
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Smegish on 05 October 2017, 18:16:47
You could have gone with a tie...  :P
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Triptych on 06 October 2017, 07:43:36
Jesus, it seems all the kickers in the league suck now. What the heck happened? I've never seen field goal kicking this bad before in all the years I've watched.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 06 October 2017, 07:52:12
There are still a few stud kickers out there. Unfortunately for the Bucs, none of them are named Nick Folk.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 06 October 2017, 09:04:08
I loved him afterwards saying "that loss is on me".

Yeah... we know, dude. Brady owes you something nice for Christmas.

Side note, how weird is it that Belichick had never coached a game in Tampa before now? I've been cursing his existence for most of my adult life, and just NOW he went there for the first time? Weird.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 08 October 2017, 20:44:23
Go Chiefs.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 09 October 2017, 00:01:49
Man, the injury bug is bad this year.  Happy for a Chiefs W, but that's like four season ending injuries tonight.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 09 October 2017, 03:59:27
Poor Giants.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 09 October 2017, 10:31:10
Poor Giants.

Hey there could be an upside.  Their season is so far conforming to the plot of a feel-good sports movie where the relateable, ex-football player gets a golden chance to turn his life around as a walk on to his favorite team.

Maybe the Giants fans will, some years down the road, get a movie like Invincible about their own team.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 09 October 2017, 11:16:35
The NFL wanted parity with the salary cap, and they got it in spades this season. Twenty three of thirty two teams are either .500, or one game above or below.

Much like my picks.  :-[

The best I can hope for this week is .500, and the Vikings need to lose.

At least at halftime we get a The Last Jedi trailer.   O0
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 October 2017, 11:56:42
Hey there could be an upside.  Their season is so far conforming to the plot of a feel-good sports movie where the relateable, ex-football player gets a golden chance to turn his life around as a walk on to his favorite team.


I should try out for them as a wide receiver. One season with the minimum salary and I think I could pay off my son's college before he starts!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 October 2017, 15:27:37
I saw a headline on ESPN "Bucs sign Murray to replace erratic kicker Folk" and was surprised.

Not that Tampa was replacing their kicker yet again but that Eddie Murray was still in playing shape. Sadly it was actually some guy named Patrick Murray.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 10 October 2017, 01:40:55
Here are my Week 5 picks


 NE@TB
BUF@CIN
 NYJ@CLE (feel sorry for the fans watching this game in the stadium)
 CAR@DET
 [B]SF[/B]@IND
 TEN@MIA
 LAC@NYG (feel sorry for the fans watching this game in the stadium, too)
 ARI@PHI
 JAX@PIT
 BAL@OAK
 SEA@LAR
 GB@DAL
 KC@HOU
 MIN@CHI
7-7, so not a losing week
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 10 October 2017, 01:54:55
NE @ TB
SF @ IND
NYJ @ CLE
JAX @ PIT
LAC @ NYG
BUF @ CIN
CAR @ DET
TEN @ MIA
ARZ @ PHI
BAL @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
GB @ DAL
KC @ HOU
MIN @ CHI

Ow.  Though I feel like I should demand a check on who was actually wearing some of those uniforms.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 10 October 2017, 03:12:06
I guess with the Chargers over in New York there was no Spanos Banner?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 10 October 2017, 09:32:04
NE @ TB
SF @ IND
NYJ @ CLE
JAX @ PIT
LAC @ NYG
BUF @ CIN
CAR @ DET
TEN @ MIA
ARZ @ PHI
BAL @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
GB @ DAL
KC @ HOU
MIN @ CHI

Note that we have teams on bye week starting this week (WAY too early)- in this case ATL, NO, WAS, and DEN

Well, that sucked. Note to self: Stop picking Cleveland to finally get off the schnide.

Side note, the talk all offseason was how New York was going to be tanking their season. It seems we all assumed the wrong New York team... the Giants were rotten before everyone died, and the Jets are maybe not a playoff team but certainly are fighting like hell every week. Maybe they knew something about guys like Mangold, Revis and Marshall that we didn't?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 10 October 2017, 10:56:34
I'm wondering how Eli is going to survive going against the Denver and Seattle defenses sans a working OL, effective backs or any healthy NFL-caliber starting WRs. I'm thinking Von Miller should get half a dozen sacks.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 10 October 2017, 11:06:40
I'm wondering how Eli is going to survive going against the Denver and Seattle defenses sans a working OL, effective backs or any healthy NFL-caliber starting WRs. I'm thinking Von Miller should get half a dozen sacks.

Wait.

I forgot that it was Denver they had next. Oh, man, that's not even funny. (Remember too that the Broncos are coming off their bye week, so they're rested as well)

Poor Eli, indeed.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 10 October 2017, 11:18:32
Might as well get this out of the way.

PHI @ CAR
CHI @ BAL
GB @ MIN
SF @ WAS
DET @ NO
MIA @ ATL
CLE @ HOU
NE @ NYJ
TB @ ARZ
LAR @ JAX
LAC @ OAK
PIT @ KC
NYG @ DEN
IND @ TEN

Bye: BUF, CIN, DAL, SEA

EDIT: Accidentally put Chicago instead of Cleveland as Houston's opponent. The author regrets the error and that this game will be played in the first place.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 10 October 2017, 11:43:34
Your vote of confidence is appreciated, but I'm feeling a lot more nervous about that Steelers game.  Last year the Steelers coming off an embarrassing regular-season shellacking shut the Chiefs down hard.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 10 October 2017, 11:56:46
PHI @ CAR
CHI @ BAL
GB @ MIN
SF @ WAS
DET @ NO
MIA @ ATL
CHI @ HOU
NE @ NYJ
TB @ ARZ
LAR @ JAX
LAC @ OAK
PIT @ KC
NYG @ DEN
IND @ TEN

Assuming the right people wear the correct uniforms this time.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 10 October 2017, 12:03:18
Your vote of confidence is appreciated, but I'm feeling a lot more nervous about that Steelers game.  Last year the Steelers coming off an embarrassing regular-season shellacking shut the Chiefs down hard.

That was one of those picks that comes down to not really feeling confident either way, so go with the home team. (I had the same problem with Eagles/Panthers)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 10 October 2017, 12:07:38
Breaking: Saints find a way to trade the husk of Adrian Peterson to Arizona for a conditional draft pick, which I presume will take the form of a signed Larry Fitzgerald football and a couple of fun-size Milky Ways.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 10 October 2017, 12:19:46
That was one of those picks that comes down to not really feeling confident either way, so go with the home team. (I had the same problem with Eagles/Panthers)

That game will fall on one side or the other of like three different axes and the team that gets 2/3 is going to win.

1) Big Ben throws 3-5 interceptions versus Big Ben throws zero interceptions
2) LeVeon Bell runs for 250 yards and 4 TDs, or less than 80 yards.
3) Kareem Hunt sets the record for single game rookie rushing yards, or he only gets his hundred.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 10 October 2017, 13:15:34
NE @ TB
SF @ IND
NYJ @ CLE
JAX @ PIT
LAC @ NYG
BUF @ CIN
CAR @ DET
TEN @ MIA
ARZ @ PHI
BAL @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
GB @ DAL
KC @ HOU
MIN @ CHI

That was embarrassing!   :-[  So let's do it again!

PHI @ CAR
CHI @ BAL
GB @ MIN
SF @ WAS
DET @ NO
MIA @ ATL
CHI @ HOU
NE @ NYJ - I am sooooo tempted to pick the Jets!
TB @ ARZ
LAR @ JAX
LAC @ OAK
PIT @ KC
NYG @ DEN
IND @ TEN


Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 11 October 2017, 04:47:03

After a middling week 5, here are my Week 6 picks

 PHI@CAR
 MIA@ATL
 GB@MIN
 DET@NO
 NE@NYJ
 SF@WAS
 CHI@BAL
 CLE@HOU
 TB@ARI
 LAR@JAX

 PIT@KC
 LAC@OAK
 NYG@DEN
 IND@TEN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 13 October 2017, 15:21:51
NE @ TB
SF @ IND
NYJ @ CLE
JAX @ PIT
LAC @ NYG
BUF @ CIN
CAR @ DET
TEN @ MIA
ARZ @ PHI
BAL @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
GB @ DAL
KC @ HOU
MIN @ CHI

 PHI@CAR [ex post facto pick but I always take PHI because Wentz is from my alma mater and my wife knows his grandma]
 MIA@ATL
 GB@MIN
 DET@NO
 NE@NYJ
 SF@WAS
 CHI@BAL
 CLE@HOU
 TB@ARI
 LAR@JAX
 PIT@KC
 LAC@OAK
 NYG@DEN
 IND@TEN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 16 October 2017, 16:59:21
Looks like everyone's in the crapper this week.   :-[

If I were a betting man, this week would have me looking for a good high bridge to jump off of.   #P
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 17 October 2017, 01:31:24
After a middling week 5, here are my Week 6 picks

 PHI@CAR
MIA@ATL
GB@MIN[B]
 DET@NO
 NE@NYJ
 SF@WAS
 CHI@BAL
 CLE@HOU
 TB@ARI
 LAR@JAX[/B]
 PIT@KC
 LAC@OAK
 NYG@DEN
 IND@TEN

Ugly week
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 17 October 2017, 09:57:22
Might as well get this out of the way.

PHI @ CAR
CHI @ BAL
GB @ MIN
SF @ WAS
DET @ NO
MIA @ ATL
CLE @ HOU
NE @ NYJ
TB @ ARZ
LAR @ JAX
LAC @ OAK
PIT @ KC
NYG @ DEN AUGHWTFBBQYOUGOTTABESHITTINGME!!!
IND @ TEN

Bye: BUF, CIN, DAL, SEA

EDIT: Accidentally put Chicago instead of Cleveland as Houston's opponent. The author regrets the error and that this game will be played in the first place.

THAT, friends, is 'tire fire' status stuff. Holy crap. Stick to hockey.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 17 October 2017, 10:17:48

PHI @ CAR
CHI @ BAL
GB @ MIN
SF @ WAS
DET @ NO
MIA @ ATL
CHI @ HOU
NE @ NYJ
TB @ ARZ
LAR @ JAX
LAC @ OAK
PIT @ KC
NYG @ DEN
IND @ TEN

As bad as that dumpster fire is, it's actually an improvement over last week!

A couple fun facts:

-- NFL road teams have won more times (46-44) than home teams through Week 6 for the first time since 2000.

-- On Sunday, teams went 8-2 when facing an opponent who was higher in the standings.

-- 25 of the 32 NFL teams are either leading their division or within one game in the loss column of the division leader.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 17 October 2017, 11:56:16
Week 7! (If the pick-em is annoying, let me know and I'll knock it off, but I've been enjoying my Jeff Fisher-esque failure each week, I hope others are too!)

Also, looks like a good week for road teams... though I'm sure I'll call half of them wrong.

KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC
ATL @ NE
WAS @ PHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 17 October 2017, 12:02:19
PHI @ CAR
CHI @ BAL
GB @ MIN
SF @ WAS
DET @ NO
MIA @ ATL
CLE @ HOU
NE @ NYJ
TB @ ARZ
LAR @ JAX
LAC @ OAK
PIT @ KC
NYG @ DEN
IND @ TEN

Assuming the right people wear the correct uniforms this time.

Personally I am enjoying this new trend, even when I can't seem to pick right.

Predictions:
KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC
ATL @ NE
WAS @ PHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 17 October 2017, 12:12:10
May I note, by the way, since a couple of people have asked me about it...

The blame for Sunday night is landing squarely on Trevor Siemian's shoulders from the media (the Denver Post in particular), and there's certainly some share of it to land on him. That said, the defense was surprisingly bad, the running game was nonexistent, and the receivers were all in the locker room by the end.

Want to see where I'd point the 'you suck' spotlight? How about on a kicker who is currently 5/9 for field goals on his own home field in DENVER? Matt Prater made the place his playground, as did Jason Elam before him- and this guy can't even get past .500 at home this far in? He's 8/13 overall- most teams would have politely thanked him for his services by now. Take Sunday- yeah, one was blocked, but make him 3/3 (or even 2/3!) and that game looks a little different, a little more life breathed into the flagging Denver offense.

That game sucked from the coaches on down, but at this point McManus is a trend that just can't continue. Denver is just starting a three-game road trip (Chargers, Chiefs, Eagles) before being back home against New England- they can't afford to have their kicker soil the sheets like this when they're fighting to stay in the wild-card picture like this.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 17 October 2017, 13:01:09
I'm not sure how their defense shut down Ezekiel Elliot and the Dallas O-line but let the Giants run everywhere on them. Nothing makes sense any more.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 17 October 2017, 13:04:49
It's time to go 14-0

KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC
ATL @ NE (Slight revenge for the SB)
WAS @ PHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 17 October 2017, 13:32:18
Time to embarrass myself again, but at least the last few weeks I've had plenty of company!

KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC
ATL @ NE
WAS @ PHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 17 October 2017, 18:06:54
PHI@CAR[picking games after they're over is the best idea ever]
 MIA@ATL [NOTHING MAKES SENSE]
 GB@MIN [Picker not responsible for catastrophic injury to only good player on team]
 DET@NO
 NE@NYJ [featuring catastrophic injury to replay official's brain]
 SF@WAS
 CHI@BAL [the stench lingers]
 CLE@HOU [CLE. I'm sorry I doubted you and picked the NYJ to win the first pick of the draft]
 TB@ARI
 LAR@JAX
 PIT@KC [a sneak preview for when the Chiefs go 12-4 and lose at home in the playoffs after a first round bye]
 LAC@OAK
 NYG@DEN
 IND@TEN

feeling lucky to finish 7-6 after a turd of a week

KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC
ATL @ NE
WAS @ PHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 17 October 2017, 18:53:34
May I note, by the way, since a couple of people have asked me about it...

The blame for Sunday night is landing squarely on Trevor Siemian's shoulders from the media (the Denver Post in particular), and there's certainly some share of it to land on him. That said, the defense was surprisingly bad, the running game was nonexistent, and the receivers were all in the locker room by the end.

Want to see where I'd point the 'you suck' spotlight? How about on a kicker who is currently 5/9 for field goals on his own home field in DENVER? Matt Prater made the place his playground, as did Jason Elam before him- and this guy can't even get past .500 at home this far in? He's 8/13 overall- most teams would have politely thanked him for his services by now. Take Sunday- yeah, one was blocked, but make him 3/3 (or even 2/3!) and that game looks a little different, a little more life breathed into the flagging Denver offense.

That game sucked from the coaches on down, but at this point McManus is a trend that just can't continue. Denver is just starting a three-game road trip (Chargers, Chiefs, Eagles) before being back home against New England- they can't afford to have their kicker soil the sheets like this when they're fighting to stay in the wild-card picture like this.

If there's one thing about Sunday that I can appreciate it's that the Chiefs' kicker continues to impress.  He's 9/10 and the only miss was his first pro attempt ever.  He's nailing them, and kicking the ball through the uprights on damn kickoffs, so I'm just waiting for when Andy Reid starts giving him the greenlight to start kicking from the 40.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 19 October 2017, 21:18:42
Refs doing their level best to beat the Chiefs tonight.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 19 October 2017, 23:53:50
Chiefs-Raiders, the post-4th-quarter plays.
(https://pics.me.me/wtf-what-just-happened-iegerieratoriet-what-an-ending-7607748.png)
Seriously

this is my face right now

...god for a moment I thought he whiffed the extra point and we were going to overtime after all.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 19 October 2017, 23:59:51
That would have been the best outcome for everyone, I think.

As is, I'm a liiiiiittle bit annoyed that OPI doesn't come with a runoff, apparently.  And if it does and the refs didn't enforce it I'll be pissed.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 20 October 2017, 01:20:40
I thought they called a runoff for that one, resetting it to 0:18 and then ticking it to 0:08.  Then everything went berserk.  I won't lie, I was hoping they miss the extra point so that the fifth play after the clock reached 0:00 would have sent them to overtime after all.

Also, I gotta say there's a lot of Raiders and some Chiefs who got REAL lucky when Marshawn Lynch got kicked.  I thought they were gonna UnRough the whole lot of them, but I understand the Raiders QB is still healing from fractured vertebrae in his lower back and the Raiders were just a wee bit tetchy about that late and needlessly violent hit.  Doesn't defend Lynch coming off the sidelines and getting in the scrum with a line judge, but does at least make his thoughts understandable.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 20 October 2017, 01:33:55
No, that runoff was for the review of the TD-that-wasn't.  The next play OPI was called with 0:03 left, and there was no runoff.  The next two plays were defensive penalties, and untimed.

Marshawn Lynch leapt off the Oakland bench and rushed to the defense of Peters.

No, seriously.  Go watch it again.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 20 October 2017, 04:12:37
I saw him come off the bench, related to the hit and the tussle that started afterward, but then he was pushing a Stripe around and that was that. 
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 20 October 2017, 06:42:04
I'm not sure his reasoning for coming off the bench matters, in the end (and it's safe to say that if anyone out there will refuse to explain, it's Lynch). There's no excuse for that action. Shoving a ref around, obviously, but coming off the sideline to join in the fight in the first place is just bonkers. In hockey, that's an immediate suspension (I think eight-game minimum at the NHL level, if I recall?).

I can't fathom what was going through his head. I suspect he'll have a couple of weeks off to ponder it himself though.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 20 October 2017, 19:43:01
I'm not sure his reasoning for coming off the bench matters

I bring it up less because it matters, and more because a Raider sprinted from the sidelines into a scuffle on the Chiefs' side and that's completely bonkers.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 20 October 2017, 21:09:49
I'd add "eleventh-year veteran" to that.  Lynch has been in the league since 2007.  A rookie getting his wind up, eh, they're kids, they'll eventually mature.  I expected more from someone with THAT much experience.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 22 October 2017, 20:52:49
We now go live to the Broncos offensive line meeting.

(https://m.popkey.co/781f0b/yg3KJ.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: The Eagle on 22 October 2017, 21:02:37
I just watched Matt Ryan run for a first on 4th and 7 in the first quarter.  What in God's name is going on?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 22 October 2017, 21:37:16
I just watched Matt Ryan run for a first on 4th and 7 in the first quarter.  What in God's name is going on?

From midfield.

On a drive that ended in a blocked FG.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 23 October 2017, 01:25:42
We now go live to the Broncos offensive line meeting.

(https://m.popkey.co/781f0b/yg3KJ.gif)
Love it. At this point IF the Broncos finish the season at 8-8 I will consider this a success.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: The Eagle on 23 October 2017, 06:26:02
From midfield.

On a drive that ended in a blocked FG.

That whole game was a laugh and a half at the expense of Atlanta.  The fog rolling in and blocking the view from half the cameras was just the icing on the cake.  It seemed to me that everybody was expecting the Falcons to come out shooting and avenge the Super Bowl, but in the end they just couldn't do anything right.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 23 October 2017, 08:21:09
It must be a sign of my journey to complete insanity nearing completion, but I got 11 wins already this week. Pretty confident I can get the 12th tonight.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 23 October 2017, 10:33:37
We now go live to the Broncos offensive line meeting.

(https://m.popkey.co/781f0b/yg3KJ.gif)

Hey, it's not all that bad. It's not like the Broncos got outscored by Dallas's starting safety kicking extra points.

Oh, wait....
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 23 October 2017, 14:18:17
I'm not sure his reasoning for coming off the bench matters, in the end (and it's safe to say that if anyone out there will refuse to explain, it's Lynch). There's no excuse for that action. Shoving a ref around, obviously, but coming off the sideline to join in the fight in the first place is just bonkers. In hockey, that's an immediate suspension (I think eight-game minimum at the NHL level, if I recall?).

I can't fathom what was going through his head. I suspect he'll have a couple of weeks off to ponder it himself though.
Leaving the bench to enter a fight is an automatic red card (ejected from this game and (generally) suspended from the next) in soccer, as well.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 25 October 2017, 15:01:42
Week 8 picks


MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 25 October 2017, 15:24:33
TOTALLY spaced this. It hasn't been a good week.


KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC *screeching in rage*
ATL @ NE
WAS @ PHI

Not bad, not bad. Holy crap though, that Denver game though. That was disgusting.

OK, this week.

MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC

There are some DOG games on the schedule this week... ugh. Some big ones too though- KC can all but wrap up the AFC West by beating Denver, and the Dallas/Washington tilt gives someone a big edge in the race for second in the NFC East (Philly has that wrapped up by now, particularly with a gimme of their own this week). Another easy game for the Vikes to set themselves up to win the NFC North now that Green Bay is in trouble... trying to figure out either South division is impossible at this point though, all four are at least still possible in the NFC (well, maybe not Tampa) and in the AFC I don't really have any idea who could win it outside of Indy.

Wild season. I just hate seeing this many teams' fates decided by catastrophic injury the way we're seeing. It happens in a contact sport, of course, but that doesn't make it any easier to see top players around the league sidelined long-term. Seems like this year is worse than usual- maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 25 October 2017, 20:38:51
KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC
ATL @ NE
WAS @ PHI

I've done worse.

Now for next week's.

MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 25 October 2017, 22:53:50
Time to embarrass myself again, but at least the last few weeks I've had plenty of company!

KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC
ATL @ NE
WAS @ PHI

What the Hell? That was my best week of the season!   :o

Time to prove it was a fluke!

MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 26 October 2017, 14:08:53
KC @ OAK
BAL @ MIN
NO @ GB
NYJ @ MIA
CAR @ CHI
ARZ @ LAR
TB @ BUF
JAX @ IND
TEN @ CLE
DAL @ SF
CIN @ PIT
SEA @ NYG
DEN @ LAC
ATL @ NE
WAS @ PHI

Good bouceback week

MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 27 October 2017, 10:01:26
Watching the replay of the hit on Joe Flacco last night is literally nauseating to me. Not just that it's the kind of hit the NFL has sworn they're trying to get out of the game (but hey, no ejection for it because FOOTBAW, I guess?). Just... the look on his face afterwards as he was leaving the field. I know that look all too well.

Those who know me outside of the forums are probably aware. For those not, I've suffered a series of concussions in my younger years through hockey, the after-effects of which still are a challenge for me on a daily basis to some extent. Whether it's something minor feeling lightheaded almost every time I stand up from my desk up to full-on vertigo spells that leave me unable to function for a couple of hours at a time (luckily those are rarer these days), the effects of injuries like this don't go away. Every time you take one, it's worse than the last one. It's awful- I don't even know how to properly explain the feeling. 'Foggy' doesn't really cover it, but almost like a delay, in a way- like your brain still is processing information, but there's a gap between what you think and actually reacting to that information. It's bizarre, and it's scary as all hell. I know that my bad knee is going to hurt for the rest of my life, and that's annoying- even painful. I know my bad shoulder once in a while will catch or cause some pain, and that's just as unfortunate. Knowing that my BRAIN isn't ever going to truly work the way it once did though, man, I don't even know how to put that in words, just how awful that is. (Ironically enough)

I had to turn the game off after that hit, I just couldn't watch Flacco looking around like that. As many bad injuries as we're seeing to star players this year, that one was my breaking point for at least last night- too many bad memories from that hit.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 27 October 2017, 10:10:49
I'm hoping that the NFL brings the hammer down on Alonso with a multi-game suspension plus a six figure fine.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 27 October 2017, 10:50:03
I'm hoping that the NFL brings the hammer down on Alonso with a multi-game suspension plus a six figure fine.

Early word this morning was that he's looking at one game (!!!), with Ndamukong Suh's actions during the game likely drawing a few games as well (thanks to his lovely track record on this stuff prior)

And with the NFL's track record in mind, a one-game suspension will become zero very quickly because of course it will.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 29 October 2017, 21:45:59
Egads that Seattle game today.  I was certain Seattle was done for after Russel threw that interception and turned it off.  Boy was I wrong.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 30 October 2017, 08:01:16
So, the Broncos are on a nationally televised game tonite. I expect them to get treated rather roughly by KC's defense as Lamarr Houston's name will be mentioned a lot. I don't expect a repeat of the Thursday night game, but it will be eerily similar.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 30 October 2017, 08:36:20
So, the Broncos are on a nationally televised game tonite. I expect them to get treated rather roughly by KC's defense as Lamarr Houston's name will be mentioned a lot. I don't expect a repeat of the Thursday night game, but it will be eerily similar.

I have no idea what to expect from Denver at this point. Will we get the team that laid down and died against Buffalo? The one that gave Oakland a tough evening? The one that didn't even show up against San Diego Los Angeles A Truck Stop South Of Reno Wherever The Hell They Play This Week? The team that ROFLstomped Dallas?

It seems like the Broncos themselves have no idea who they are week to week, so I can't fathom who they'll be tonight. If we get the Chiefs from the past couple of games, I feel okay about this. If we get the one from the first few weeks, it's over already and the actual game is a formality.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 30 October 2017, 09:41:00
Meanwhile, in the NFC East the ****** took a look at the Giant's O-line and said "hold my beer!"
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 30 October 2017, 12:03:00
Meanwhile, Zach Miller of da Bears is in surgery that doctors are hoping will repair the artery in his leg that took damage yesterday against the Saints, and has him at risk of losing his leg:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/oct/30/zach-miller-leg-injury-surgery-chicago-bears-nfl
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Post by: Sharpnel on 30 October 2017, 12:47:51
Read that earlier. I hope that hose surgeons are the best that they can be today. This injury is likely the end of his career. Good luck to Miller
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Post by: Sharpnel on 31 October 2017, 01:27:19
Week 8 picks


MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC

12-1 this week. I am AWESOME!
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Post by: monbvol on 31 October 2017, 04:13:06
I've done worse.

Now for next week's.

MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC

10-3.  A marked improvement for me.

Prediction time.

BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MAI
DET@GB
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 31 October 2017, 08:48:31

MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC

It's pretty. It's SO pretty. Also, my kingdom to fire Trevor Siemian into the sun for that game last night. You were in WHITE, throw to the guys who aren't wearing RED. ARGH. That was a must-win to get back into the division talk, and without that there's no wild-card possibility. Denver's season died on Oct. 30, and from here it's time to start giving Lynch and Osweiler more time to figure out if any of these bozos are a good option for next year. Then again, after the 49ers trade for Garoppalo yesterday, Denver might now be one of the teams that make the most sense for Kirk Cousins next year.

Ah well, Let's pick again and see what happens.

BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MIA
DET@GB
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Post by: Fat Guy on 31 October 2017, 08:50:56
Nice to see the Browns and Niners are both halfway to the perfect season!  :))


MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC

I gambled and took a chance on the Jets and Skins, and it bit me in the ass.

Time to stop trying to be too smart for my own good.

BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MAI
DET@GB
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Post by: Sartris on 31 October 2017, 09:44:12
Good bouceback week

MIA@BAL
MIN@CLE
OAK@BUF
IND@CIN
LAC@NE
CHI@NO
ATL@NYJ
SF@PHI
CAR@TB
HOU@SEA
DAL@WAS
PIT@DET
DEN@KC

I'm so confused by the Bills. Also, always go with your first instinct... or you end up picking Kirk Cousins to win against a quality opponent.

BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MIA
DET@GB

I feel a losing week coming on. A lot of my analysis was based on asking "who do i not trust the least?" The reality is no one in the NFL is trustworthy. Unless it's picking the browns to lose or taking the over on +/- 1.5 shovel passes to Travis Kelsey.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 31 October 2017, 10:38:57
And now for the picks,

BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MIA
DET@GB
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Post by: The Eagle on 31 October 2017, 20:35:06
So Buffalo just picked up Kelvin Benjamin from the Panthers for two draft picks.  I doubt he's got enough time to learn the playbook to take the field on Thursday, but getting Taylor another decent receiver was a good step forward, I think.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 01 November 2017, 10:02:27
So Buffalo just picked up Kelvin Benjamin from the Panthers for two draft picks.  I doubt he's got enough time to learn the playbook to take the field on Thursday, but getting Taylor another decent receiver was a good step forward, I think.

He definitely won't know the playbook, but just telling him to run a four-step slant or something fairly basic like that at least gets him on the field. He's good enough that if you tell him the basics of what to do, his athleticism and ability to snag the ball should be enough to make him a factor. If nothing else, the shiny new toy syndrome will draw off the Jets defense a little more than otherwise.

I wouldn't use him on every down, but I'd at least put him out there on second down and see what happens.

Tangient re: trade deadline... LOLBrowns.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 01 November 2017, 10:53:24
Tangient re: trade deadline... LOLBrowns.

https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/10/31/cleveland-browns-disastrous-start-bye-week/ (https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/10/31/cleveland-browns-disastrous-start-bye-week/) 

 :))
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 01 November 2017, 11:02:11
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/10/31/cleveland-browns-disastrous-start-bye-week/ (https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/10/31/cleveland-browns-disastrous-start-bye-week/) 

 :))

See, I saw the thing about the Bengals being the ones who screwed up- and that's possible. But... both teams have to send paperwork to the league office separately. It doesn't matter if the Bengals sent the wrong form, because the Browns would have had to submit their own forms as well. Had they done so and the Bengals sent the wrong one, the league office likely would have been lenient in allowing the Bengals to re-submit even after the deadline had officially passed.

So it sounds like, based on league rules, the mistake is still on the Browns. And McCarron can breathe a huge sigh of relief... and Keyser, after being benched and reinstated as starter a few times already, now knows that the team actively tried to replace him, shaking his confidence even further than it has been.

Again, LOLBrowns.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 01 November 2017, 11:04:22
Kessler will be the starter for the Browns by Thanksgiving Day weekend.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 01 November 2017, 11:06:23
Kessler will be the starter for the Browns by Thanksgiving Day weekend.

By Christmas they'll be calling Jeff George.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 01 November 2017, 11:11:38
By Christmas they'll be calling Jeff George.
And then draft Darnold/Jackson/Rosen in the first round of the draft when they need receivers for the QBs they already have
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Post by: misterpants on 01 November 2017, 14:03:55
Again, LOLBrowns.

I've read several comments along the lines of "This is peak Browns", but I expect they'll find a way to lose the 2018 #1 draft pick at this rate.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 01 November 2017, 14:38:27
And Brock Osweiler is now the starter for the Denver Broncos. The Once and Future QB has returned.

Plus, the Browns are still paying all the leftover guaranteed money from the contract he signed when he left Denver for the Texans. ROFLMAO!
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 01 November 2017, 14:49:31
Quite the two-year stretch since Osweiler took over in Denver the first time... savior of the franchise, goat for losing a few games, benched for the Giant Forehead he was set to replace, watched the playoffs from the bench... saw two teams fight over who got to throw the most money at him, off to Houston with few kind words to say about Elway and the Broncos. A season of unquestioned failure and ineptitude followed, at which point after one year the Texans throw in the towel and pay Cleveland a second round pick to take this idiot and his salary... when the BROWNS can't find use for him (lulz), back to Denver (with Cleveland paying most of his salary, are you kidding?) to forget all the bad thing he said about Elway and...

...well, I'm sure things will be fine. He's got two weeks of gimme games against the Eagles and Patriots, so what could go wrong?

This reeks of failure already, and only knowing that Jimmy Haslam is the one paying Osweiler for it is making it palatable. What needs to happen is that Elway learns how to draft a QB. Pronto. Because this here? This sucks.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 01 November 2017, 16:16:20
I wonder if Elway regrets not going after Tony Romo now.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 01 November 2017, 16:25:19
Maybe a little bit. Romo's life would havebeen in danger. Siemian's been sacked 25 times this season and hit as many times. I can only imagine Romo getting hit just as much and given his recent injury history, his football lif would have been in jeopardy. Romo would not be making the mistakes that Siemian has, but it would still be a bad season given the colander that Denver O-line is.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 01 November 2017, 18:04:25
Maybe a little bit. Romo's life would havebeen in danger. Siemian's been sacked 25 times this season and hit as many times. I can only imagine Romo getting hit just as much and given his recent injury history, his football lif would have been in jeopardy. Romo would not be making the mistakes that Siemian has, but it would still be a bad season given the colander that Denver O-line is.

Yeah, even when it looked like Romo was coming to town, I was pretty sure that also meant he'd start eight games MAXIMUM over the course of the season. Whoever won the Siemian/Lynch battle was the backup who was going to get half a season of starting time, and both would benefit from having a longtime vet to learn from whether he was on the field or holding a clipboard. Win-win, really, until Jurr-ah screwed it all up.

Hard to be TOO upset, since it means Romo has been in the booth being absolutely amazing as a broadcaster (seriously, he's been great!), but I'll bet Elway is still gritting his horse-teeth over it.
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Post by: monbvol on 01 November 2017, 18:25:15
Well I think that is kind of the thing.  It won't matter who the starter is until that o-line gets fixed up in a major way.

Heck it is to the point I'm not sure I'd wish being the starting QB for the Broncos on my worst enemy.
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Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 01 November 2017, 20:04:08
It seems that the Broncos have a hard time replacing great QBs.  After Elway retired (following the '98 season), it was 2005 before the Broncos (under Jake Plummer, their 8th post-Elway QB) won even one playoff game.  Then they didn't win another one until 2011, under Tim Tebow.  That's two playoff victories between the 1998 postseason and the AFC Championship in 2013.  Manning took them to two AFC Championships and a Super Bowl title in 4 years.  Since he retired...ok, small sample size, but I can't help but be reminded of the dark years AE (After Elway).
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Post by: Scotty on 01 November 2017, 20:09:10
Romo in the booth is great, and I wish he could call every game.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 November 2017, 00:38:42
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/01/ownership-went-nuclear-on-browns-front-office-on-wednesday/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/01/ownership-went-nuclear-on-browns-front-office-on-wednesday/)

Just leaving this here because it made me laugh. It's actually kind of sad, but as the article notes their damage control efforts on this still mean they didn't follow what the league wants done, so... bravo?
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Post by: monbvol on 02 November 2017, 01:26:00
Sometimes you just have to wonder if anyone involved with the Cleveland Browns actually wants the Cleveland Browns to be a successful sports team.

As an endless source of confusion and amusement I'd say they have had some success there.
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Post by: ColBosch on 02 November 2017, 03:56:27
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/01/ownership-went-nuclear-on-browns-front-office-on-wednesday/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/01/ownership-went-nuclear-on-browns-front-office-on-wednesday/)

Just leaving this here because it made me laugh. It's actually kind of sad, but as the article notes their damage control efforts on this still mean they didn't follow what the league wants done, so... bravo?

First, that site won't autoplay video unless I disable my Adblocker. Since I hate autoplaying videos, I strongly encourage this trend among websites.

Second, to hear of paperwork SNAFUs among the NFL warms the cockles of my heart.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 02 November 2017, 09:25:42
Win-win, really, until Jurr-ah screwed it all up.


I'm beginning to think he isn't putting the Bronco's success at the forefront of his efforts.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 November 2017, 09:55:46
I'm beginning to think he isn't putting the Bronco's success at the forefront of his efforts.

Well, yeah, but it WAS odd that he was fine with releasing Romo, knowing that was what was likely to happen next- Denver. All through the latter half of the season, into the playoffs and after, he was going to release Romo, lots of respect for him, etc.- right up until he suddenly changed his mind and let this QB he had so much respect for twist in the wind.

Again, it's for the better since it put him in the CBS booth, but it was kind of disappointing to see Jones talk so much about respect, then screw the guy over at the last second. Yeah, it tweaks the Broncos too, but... honestly who cares about that? They're in the other conference anyway. Yes, Dallas would have to face Romo the following season. So what? You know him well enough to make his life rough, and chances are good he'd be injured by that point anyway. And you know no one in the division is going to sneak in and grab him, because (and I'm looking at this from an offseason perspective here, mind you) New York, Washington, and Philly were all happy with their QB situations (or as happy as the Kirk Cousins situation can get in DC anyway).
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Post by: Sartris on 02 November 2017, 09:59:49
By Christmas they'll be calling Jeff George.

have you seen the MicroTouch grooming tool commercials lately? Brett Farve is still stacked
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 November 2017, 10:40:35
have you seen the MicroTouch grooming tool commercials lately? Brett Farve is still stacked

Can't say I have, actually. Although every time I watch the show I swear he's the main character on 'Longmire'.  ;D
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 02 November 2017, 11:51:21
Sometimes you just have to wonder if anyone involved with the Cleveland Browns actually wants the Cleveland Browns to be a successful sports team.

As an endless source of confusion and amusement I'd say they have had some success there.

Yeah, skipping over Trubisky and Watson I can sort of understand, even selecting Kizer as a long term project but then they threw him into the fire. It's like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. They clearly need to get a group that can stay on the same page.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 02 November 2017, 19:05:27
Another season ending injury. Deshaun Watson suffered a torn ACL in practice today during a non-contact drill and will not be able to play again this season.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 02 November 2017, 19:45:11
Sad news for Texans. First Watt, now Watson
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Post by: monbvol on 02 November 2017, 21:21:31
Sometimes makes me wonder if these athletes know something we don't and are trying to dodge a bullet so to speak.
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Post by: ColBosch on 04 November 2017, 03:32:27
Sometimes makes me wonder if these athletes know something we don't and are trying to dodge a bullet so to speak.

By tearing his ACL? I mean, there's ways to get out of playing that don't suck anywhere near as bad as that.
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Post by: monbvol on 04 November 2017, 12:22:47
The other possibility is potentially worse since it was a non-contact practice.
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Post by: Sartris on 05 November 2017, 09:35:44
a combination of genes, nutrition, training, etc combined to exert forces on watson's ACL that it wasn't meant to handle. we're going to see more of this. hell, i was doing stats for girls' basketball and watched a fifteen year old shred her knee on a basic jump stop.

sports, man

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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 05 November 2017, 11:17:38
All week long, I've been bothered by the McCarron deal that fell through between the Bengals and Browns. I mean, it's funny, as we noted before here, but... the Browns did exactly what you'd think they would (they screwed up). But... the Bengals side of this. You don't make a trade within your division for a good player. Ever. Remember when Philly sent McNabb to Washington and we all thought they were insane? And it turned out the Eagles knew something we didn't and was just about out of gas? Turned out the Eagles made a pretty smart deal and screwed over their division rival.

So what was the Bengals' angle here on McCarron? What did they know? Because a 2nd and 3rd round pick is pretty nice for a backup QB, but... it can't be that easy.

It wasn't.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/05/yes-mccarron-has-a-pending-grievance-against-the-bengals/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/05/yes-mccarron-has-a-pending-grievance-against-the-bengals/)

Looks like the Browns' ineptitude may have actually saved their bacon this time. Because that's a big price to pay for a backup QB that you only would get half a season out of before potentially losing him for absolutely nothing.
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Post by: Scotty on 05 November 2017, 13:56:23
I find it incredibly hilarious that the Browns Brownsed so hard that they actually inflicted themselves on the Bengals.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 05 November 2017, 19:06:35
I didn't think it got worse than the shutout against the Chargers last week.

Welp. I was wrong. 14 penalties and over 50 points let in by the defense later, it's hard to think of the Broncos ever having had a worse day than what they did today against the Eagles.

Luckily things get a lot easier for them next week against New Engl... after a bye week...

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/gfrhpimcw2dscmayrgly.GIF)
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Post by: Scotty on 05 November 2017, 19:22:58
I didn't think it got worse than the shutout against the Chargers last week.

Welp. I was wrong. 14 penalties and over 50 points let in by the defense later, it's hard to think of the Broncos ever having had a worse day than what they did today against the Eagles.

Luckily things get a lot easier for them next week against New Engl... after a bye week...

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/gfrhpimcw2dscmayrgly.GIF)

This is a fantastic gif, stealing that.

The Chiefs had an absolutely amazing TD at the end of the half, and then another TD with an equally amazing celebration, and are now ahead of the Cowboys.  Chiefs are so fun to watch.
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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 05 November 2017, 19:45:49
My LOL of the day is the Eagles' tweet where they apologized for having run out of fireworks to shoot off.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 05 November 2017, 19:52:25
Watching NFL Network highlights, I've decided that the Rams made a huge mistake firing Jeff Fisher.

No, no, not the way you think. See, going 7-9 every season, you should get fired. What the Rams fouled up is letting him waste time with Jared Goff on the sideline. That was a bad idea. Because watching what he did to the Giants today, that kid is freaking GOOD. How does that kid sit on the bench?

(Side note, am I the only person dealing with it being weird that the Rams' helmets are blue and WHITE now instead of blue and gold or yellow?)
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Post by: monbvol on 05 November 2017, 20:44:20
No you are not the only one.

And Goff never looked that good or promising before.  So maybe letting him ride the bench was what he needed?
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 November 2017, 20:56:35
(Side note, am I the only person dealing with it being weird that the Rams' helmets are blue and WHITE now instead of blue and gold or yellow?)
I think, based on some apocryphal source, that it is based on an inventory of blue and yellow jerseys for sale via various vendors.

Also, nice to see the 'Skins get a win in SEA.
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Post by: monbvol on 05 November 2017, 21:32:38
Oy Seattle.  I only got to see the failed hail marry at the end but damn that was close.
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Post by: Decoy on 05 November 2017, 22:56:48
I wonder how much ...patience Blair Walsh has cultivated in Seattle. I don't think many people are happy with him right now.
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Post by: monbvol on 05 November 2017, 23:07:44
Not just him.

The O-line still needs a lot of work(even if it isn't the worst one in the NFL right now) and that defensive unit goes from hot to cold too easily in the same game all too easily.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 06 November 2017, 10:21:46
I didn't think it got worse than the shutout against the Chargers last week.

Welp. I was wrong. 14 penalties and over 50 points let in by the defense later, it's hard to think of the Broncos ever having had a worse day than what they did today against the Eagles.

Luckily things get a lot easier for them next week against New Engl... after a bye week...


On the plus side, the Broncos weren't the least competitive team giving up 51 points yesterday. Think that's ever been said before?
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 06 November 2017, 10:24:59
On the plus side, the Broncos weren't the least competitive team giving up 51 points yesterday. Think that's ever been said before?

Only when the follow-up sentence includes the word 'Brown'.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 06 November 2017, 12:09:58
Y'know, it's nice to see Peterson getting some decent plays in on a team he JUST switched to, but damn.  Owen Nyne playing for San Francisco, that's just a harsh season period.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 06 November 2017, 13:05:23
Y'know, it's nice to see Peterson getting some decent plays in on a team he JUST switched to, but damn.  Owen Nyne playing for San Francisco, that's just a harsh season period.

The only good news for them is that a whole lot of those losses are REALLY close- they've only really been blown out a couple of times. Most of those, they were right in it to the very end. There's no such thing as a moral victory in the standings, but they at least have fought like hell most weeks. That's more than you can say for the Browns or Giants a lot of the time.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 06 November 2017, 15:30:21
That is a fair point.  0-9 is a brutal stat, but if they're holding through to the end of the 4th and only losing in the last moment by a couple points, that's respectful.  They've had a few blowouts (ouch, Dallas) but there's a lot of 2-3 point games in that list.

Good luck guys, hopefully you can turn something around.  Meanwhile, here's hoping that Stanton, Peterson, Fitzgerald, and Brown can really lock in a solid three-option offense.
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Post by: Blackhorse 6 on 06 November 2017, 18:22:39
Watching NFL Network highlights, I've decided that the Rams made a huge mistake firing Jeff Fisher.

No, no, not the way you think. See, going 7-9 every season, you should get fired. What the Rams fouled up is letting him waste time with Jared Goff on the sideline. That was a bad idea. Because watching what he did to the Giants today, that kid is freaking GOOD. How does that kid sit on the bench?

(Side note, am I the only person dealing with it being weird that the Rams' helmets are blue and WHITE now instead of blue and gold or yellow?)

We hadn't a decent offensive line to protect him, we do now!!  We needed a better coach for the team, we do now!!

I remember, just barely, when we switched from the white horns.  I want to ditch what is being worn and go back to the Pre St. Louis look.  I figure I've been a fan for almost 45 years and this is the most optimistic I have been since The Greatest Show on Turf.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 07 November 2017, 05:32:37
Week 9 Picks

BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MIA
DET@GB

8-5 in week 9, meh
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 07 November 2017, 07:31:51

BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MIA
DET@GB

8-5 would be good enough to get an extension from the Bengals, at least. ;)

(I should know better than to pick early in the week. I made those early, before Houston's catastrophic news, and it cost me.)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 07 November 2017, 08:24:20
8-5 would be good enough to get an extension from the Bengals, at least. ;)

(I should know better than to pick early in the week. I made those early, before Houston's catastrophic news, and it cost me.)
And a lifetime contract from the Browns ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 07 November 2017, 09:51:38

BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MAI
DET@GB

8-5 beats 5-8 (which I've already had!).
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 07 November 2017, 11:14:06
BUF@NYJ I don't understand either of these teams
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU WHY WOULD I TAKE THE TEXANS WITH THAT POTATO AT QUARTERBACK?! WHY?!
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MIA
DET@GB

I feel a losing week coming on. A lot of my analysis was based on asking "who do i not trust the least?" The reality is no one in the NFL is trustworthy. Unless it's picking the browns to lose or taking the over on +/- 1.5 shovel passes to Travis Kelsey.

called it. mistakes were made.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 07 November 2017, 12:35:07
BUF@NYJ
BAL@TEN
TB@NO
LAR@NYG
DEN@PHI
ATL@CAR
CIN@JAX
IND@HOU
ARI@SF
WAS@SEA
KC@DAL
OAK@MAI
DET@GB

Ouch.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Blackhorse 6 on 07 November 2017, 23:16:07
Suppose the Rams fronted the Giants 21 up front...  ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 08 November 2017, 09:28:48
Week 10 picks

SEA@ARI
NO@BUF
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL
NYG@SF (I do feel sorry for the fans at the game)
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR

I almost want to pick Denver to win as the Pats have a hard time beating the Broncos in Denver, but Denver's offense sucks so bad.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 08 November 2017, 09:35:02
SEA@ARI
NO@BUF
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL
NYG@SF  - If this game was being played in my back yard, I'd close the curtains!
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 08 November 2017, 11:56:47
SEA@ARI
NO@BUF
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL
NYG@SF
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 November 2017, 10:34:14
Man, the midwest got all grumpy with this crappy weather. The Packers cut Martellus Bennett and the Colts cut Vonte Davis. Weird.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 09 November 2017, 11:51:47
SEA@ARI
NO@BUF (didn't think this would be such a huge game when the season started!)
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL I hate picking Dallas games. The Zeke situation really sucks for this.
NYG@SF War crime stuff here. The Hague should be involved in this game.
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 10 November 2017, 11:50:32
SEA@ARI [oops]
NO@BUF
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB [I just picked the Jets. I'll check myself into the psych ward immediately after posting]
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX [the only thing I know for certain about this game is that Rivers will have to drive the length of the field in less than two minutes with zero timeouts]
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL
NYG@SF [I literally flipped a coin]
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 10 November 2017, 22:10:49
Martellus Bennett: "I need shoulder surgery. The Packers cut me because I needed surgery instead of playing. So now I signed with the Patriots and don't need surgery."

Wut?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 13 November 2017, 09:40:24
Martellus Bennett: "I need shoulder surgery. The Packers cut me because I needed surgery instead of playing. So now I signed with the Patriots and don't need surgery."

Wut?

merely basking in the presence of the Golden Boy™ heals maladies and sooths the soul
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 13 November 2017, 10:08:39
https://screengrabber.deadspin.com/bonk-1820381754 (https://screengrabber.deadspin.com/bonk-1820381754)

The ONLY moment that brought joy from Sunday night's game.

BONK.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 13 November 2017, 17:48:39
Wow, that's some Scott Sterling-level effort there!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 14 November 2017, 00:36:32
Though the game's not technically over yet, I'm pretty confident calling it.

SEA@ARI
NO@BUF
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL - Though I'm happy with the result!   :)
NYG@SF  
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 14 November 2017, 01:37:16
SEA@ARI
NO@BUF
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL
NYG@SF
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR

With this record I could be NFC North champion!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 14 November 2017, 02:27:08

Week 10 picks

SEA@ARI
NO@BUF
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL
NYG@SF (I do feel sorry for the fans at the game)
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR

I'll take 11-3 any time
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 14 November 2017, 07:46:43
SEA@ARI
NO@BUF (didn't think this would be such a huge game when the season started!)
GB@CHI
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX
HOU@LAR
DAL@ATL I hate picking Dallas games. The Zeke situation really sucks for this.
NYG@SF War crime stuff here. The Hague should be involved in this game.
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR

Like I said, the Elliotte situation makes calling a Dallas game tough- they're not the same team without him (though their offensive line did them no favors- not sure he'd have made the difference in that debacle!)

Also, I hope Bill Belichick steps on a Lego brick.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 14 November 2017, 08:24:00
Like I said, the Elliotte situation makes calling a Dallas game tough- they're not the same team without him (though their offensive line did them no favors- not sure he'd have made the difference in that debacle!)

Also, I hope Bill Belichick steps on a Lego brick.
I'm hoping he steps on a rusty thumbtack and needs to get a tetanus shot.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 14 November 2017, 10:54:46
SEA@ARI [oops]
NO@BUF
GB@CHI YOU HAD ONE JOB
CLE@DET
CIN@TEN
PIT@IND
NYJ@TB J E T S SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS. Also, yes, I deserve all the ridicule
MIN@WAS
LAC@JAX  both teams tried super hard to not win this but someone had to
HOU@LAR don't look now but the greatest show on turf is back
DAL@ATL Hot take: GET THE LEFT TACKLE SOME ****** HELP. They abanonded the run and left Prescott's blindside open to a hungry hungry hippo. This was not going to end well
NYG@SF [I literally flipped a coin] [The coin betrayed me]
NE@DEN
MIA@CAR

This felt like another losing week when i made the picks. Glad to see I won this round of randomness
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 15 November 2017, 11:47:51
Week 11 picks:

TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA
LAR@MIN
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU
BUF@LAC
CIN@DEN
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 15 November 2017, 12:12:44
A couple literal coin flips in here:

TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA
LAR@MIN
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU
BUF@LAC
CIN@DEN
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 15 November 2017, 12:14:35
Let's get these in before the next Zeke appeal screws me up again.

TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA
LAR@MIN (Best game of the week?)
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU
BUF@LAC
CIN@DEN (Worst game of the week?)
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 15 November 2017, 12:27:10
TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA
LAR@MIN
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU
BUF@LAC
CIN@DEN
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA

I have a bad feeling about this week.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 15 November 2017, 20:25:13
Let's get these in before the next Zeke appeal screws me up again.

TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA
LAR@MIN (Best game of the week?)
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU
BUF@LAC
CIN@DEN (Worst game of the week?)
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA

I'm not sure Zeke's game of Will-I-Won't-I has any bearing over how thoroughly the Eagles are going to eviscerate the Cowboys on Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 16 November 2017, 09:17:14
I'm not sure Zeke's game of Will-I-Won't-I has any bearing over how thoroughly the Eagles are going to eviscerate the Cowboys on Sunday.

Well, he's announced he's finally not going to keep this back-and-forth crap up, so he's done until late December. Finally, our long national nightmare is over.

No question though that they're just a different team with him (usually- see game in Denver for exception to the rule). Will the Eagles win either way? Probably. But there's a hell of a lot better chance of winning it with him than without for Dallas.

(Then again, that O-line was the problem against the Falcons, not the running game so much. If Prescott is going to get sacked half a dozen times every Sunday, you could hand off the ball to one of Rommel's panzers and you'd still lose.)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 November 2017, 21:48:56
Six straight losses for Denver. Been a long time since I've seen that happen.

And yet I still see fans on social media talking about how the division is still within reach, it's not over, they can still make it... how? Even if they do find a way to suck less than the Raiders and Chiefs, who are they going to reliably beat in the playoffs? And what games left on the schedule would Denver be favored against, that they could actually win?

Oi. What a mess. We expected the offense would be a bit rough, but that defense looks like they've all but quit.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: The Eagle on 19 November 2017, 22:40:44
I've given up on Buffalo for this season.  They started off sooooo wellllllll. . . but the last, what, four games?  Embarrassing.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 20 November 2017, 02:48:35
Of their six remaining games, Denver has three better than average chances at getting a win (MIA, NYJ, IND) wit the other against OAK, KC and WAS. Of those three winnable games I would only count the Miami game as the closest thing to a lock. They could finish with 12 losses.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 November 2017, 12:30:20
Six straight losses for Denver. Been a long time since I've seen that happen.

And yet I still see fans on social media talking about how the division is still within reach, it's not over, they can still make it... how? Even if they do find a way to suck less than the Raiders and Chiefs, who are they going to reliably beat in the playoffs? And what games left on the schedule would Denver be favored against, that they could actually win?

Oi. What a mess. We expected the offense would be a bit rough, but that defense looks like they've all but quit.

Well, they dumped their OC today. I don't know if that will improve anything....

And Terry Glenn died today. Blah, what a yucky football weekend.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 20 November 2017, 12:34:31
I'm of a mindset (and a hope) that McCoy being out simply means his resume is on the market a month and a half before the rest of the coaching staff. Vance Joseph seems like a nice guy, but this isn't working out. As for the defense... the difference between this season and the previous couple under Philips are staggering, aren't they? Maybe letting him walk wasn't such a hot idea?

The calls for Paxton Lynch to start next week are getting loud- not that he's the savior of the season, but because it's over anyway, might as well see if this kid has any talent or if Elway needs to try yet again to draft a QB this spring. You know what you have in Osweiler and Siemian at this point (not much), so it's time to look around at other ideas.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 20 November 2017, 12:41:12
The last few games have done an excellent job of hyping me up for Pat Mahomes even more.  I only got to watch the last Chiefs drive in overtime, but it was lost because of checking down and relying on player speed to break coverage after the ball was already thrown.  Talk about not giving your players any help.  It doesn't matter if Tyreek Hill is the fastest guy on the field, if he starts his run behind the line he's going to have five or six guys to beat and you can't rely on that to win games.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 20 November 2017, 18:46:08
Yeah, Denver needs to throw buckets of cash at Phillips this offseason.  Pay him like a star QB if needed.  He’s worth it as a DC.  Not sure what to do with the offense.  Throw buckets of cash at Peyton to come back as OC?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 21 November 2017, 07:18:48
Yeah, Denver needs to throw buckets of cash at Phillips this offseason.  Pay him like a star QB if needed.  He’s worth it as a DC.  Not sure what to do with the offense.  Throw buckets of cash at Peyton to come back as OC?

Problem is, ol' Wade is having a pretty good time turning the Rams into a legit football team (what a difference a year makes!). Why would he want to come back to a team that let him twist in the wind last spring? That had better be a HEAP of money.

...and even then, it doesn't fix the fundamental problem- the offense sucks, has sucked for a couple of years now, and there's nothing resembling a QB on the roster- and it's increasingly clear the guy drafting has no idea how to go about selecting one (ironically enough). Even THEN, if you put Peyton in his mid-2000s prime in that offense, he's going to eat grass every other play, because the offensive line is just that- offensively bad.

On a totally unrelated note, watching last nights' game, Julio Jones isn't human. No mere mortal could make some of those sideline grabs.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 21 November 2017, 10:23:26
Let's get these in before the next Zeke appeal screws me up again.

TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA
LAR@MIN (Best game of the week?) Not really, no.
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU
BUF@LAC Five INT on 14 attempts... bra-VO.
CIN@DEN (Worst game of the week?) Probably.
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 21 November 2017, 12:02:20
Week 11 picks:

TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA
LAR@MIN
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU
BUF@LAC
CIN@DEN
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA

8-6 is better 6-8
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 21 November 2017, 12:04:02
8-6 is better 6-8

"Wait... what?"

+Jeff Fisher+
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 21 November 2017, 13:35:26
TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA
LAR@MIN
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU
BUF@LAC
CIN@DEN
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA

Ouch.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 21 November 2017, 14:20:10
A couple literal coin flips in here:

TEN@PIT
DET@CHI
JAX@CLE
BAL@GB
TB@MIA  <-- coin flip
LAR@MIN
WAS@NO
KC@NYG
ARI@HOU  <-- coin flip
BUF@LAC
CIN@DEN
NE@OAK
PHI@DAL
ATL@SEA

8-6 seems to be the theme this week.   :(
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 22 November 2017, 08:42:55
Week 12 picks

 MIN@DET
 LAC@DAL
 NYG@WAS
 TB@ATL
 CLE@CIN
 TEN@IND
 BUF@KC
 MIA@NE
 CAR@NYJ
 CHI@PHI
 SEA@SF
 DEN@OAK (Khalil Mack will wreck Paxton's day)
 NO@LAR
 JAX@ARI
 GB@PIT
 HOU@BAL
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 22 November 2017, 09:21:34
MIN@DET
 LAC@DAL
 NYG@WAS
 TB@ATL
 CLE@CIN
TEN@IND
 BUF@KC
 MIA@NE
 CAR@NYJ
 CHI@PHI
 SEA@SF
 DEN@OAK (No matter how bad Denver is, I can't pick the Raiders in this. Literally can't.)
 NO@LAR
 JAX@ARI
 GB@PIT
 HOU@BAL
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 22 November 2017, 12:54:02
MIN@DET
LAC@DAL
NYG@WAS
TB@ATL
CLE@CIN
TEN@IND
BUF@KC
MIA@NE
CAR@NYJ
CHI@PHI
SEA@SF
DEN@OAK
NO@LAR
JAX@ARI
GB@PIT
HOU@BAL
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 22 November 2017, 23:29:57
Lots of really bad football this week.

MIN@DET
LAC@DAL
NYG@WAS
 TB@ATL
 CLE@CIN
 TEN@IND
 BUF@KC
 MIA@NE
 CAR@NYJ
 CHI@PHI
 SEA@SF
 DEN@OAK
 NO@LAR
 JAX@ARI
 GB@PIT
 HOU@BAL
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: CrossfirePilot on 23 November 2017, 10:28:33
Come on! some of you guys have picked the Vikings to loose week after week and they have not.  Today is probably one of the only games of the season that I will watch and you are picking them to win?!?!  Thanks a lot...
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: misterpants on 23 November 2017, 23:19:51
Right now I'm holding out hope for the hilarity of 3 NFC East teams playing today and none of them winning. (As of this post Dallas lost and WAS/NYG tied 3-3)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 23 November 2017, 23:53:24
Currently tied 10-10, so the TIE dream is still alive.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 24 November 2017, 08:54:53
Sorry, but the ****** won
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 26 November 2017, 14:33:48
Football thought of the day: Screen passes behind the LOS on 3rd down generate 4th downs, not 1st downs.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 26 November 2017, 19:46:03
It's looking, as I type, like Denver is about to lose their seventh straight game.

But, on the upside, Aqib Talib is now 2-0 on stealing gold chains from Michael Crabtree over the past two seasons. So... there's that.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 26 November 2017, 21:26:42
Chiefs going to win the AFC West at 7-9 after starting 5-0.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 28 November 2017, 02:59:30
Week 12 picks

 MIN@DET
 LAC@DAL
 NYG@WAS
 TB@ATL
 CLE@CIN
 TEN@IND
 BUF@KC
 MIA@NE
 CAR@NYJ
 CHI@PHI
 SEA@SF
 DEN@OAK (Khalil Mack will wreck Paxton's day)
 NO@LAR
JAX@ARI
 GB@PIT
 HOU@BAL

13-3 is pretty damned good week
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 28 November 2017, 10:21:52

MIN@DET
LAC@DAL
NYG@WAS
 TB@ATL
 CLE@CIN
 TEN@IND
 BUF@KC
 MIA@NE
 CAR@NYJ
 CHI@PHI
 SEA@SF
 DEN@OAK
 NO@LAR
 JAX@ARI
 GB@PIT
 HOU@BAL

Better than last week at least... 
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 28 November 2017, 10:22:17
MIN@DET
 LAC@DAL
 NYG@WAS
 TB@ATL
 CLE@CIN
TEN@IND
 BUF@KC
 MIA@NE
 CAR@NYJ
 CHI@PHI
 SEA@SF
 DEN@OAK (No matter how bad Denver is, I can't pick the Raiders in this. Literally can't.) Should have listened to reason. Seven straight losses for Denver...
 NO@LAR
 JAX@ARI
 GB@PIT
 HOU@BAL I must have forgotten to mark a pick on this one, so I'll call it a loss to be fair.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 28 November 2017, 12:39:54
MIN@DET
LAC@DAL
NYG@WAS
TB@ATL
CLE@CIN
TEN@IND
BUF@KC
MIA@NE
CAR@NYJ
CHI@PHI
SEA@SF
DEN@OAK
NO@LAR
JAX@ARI
GB@PIT
HOU@BAL

Not bad.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 November 2017, 16:43:29
Huh, the Giants, with rookie 3rd round pick Davis Webb and a wasted season, are going to bench Eli Manning so they can get a look at...Geno Smith.

 :o
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 28 November 2017, 17:03:02
Huh, the Giants, with rookie 3rd round pick Davis Webb and a wasted season, are going to bench Eli Manning so they can get a look at...Geno Smith.

 :o

What could go wrong? The carousel of failure worked so well for Denver already, after all!

Nah, honestly it's time the Giants evaluate their next QB anyway. That they're seeing whether it's Smith is baffling, but that they're planning for life post-Eli isn't a bad idea at this point.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 November 2017, 17:30:19
What could go wrong? The carousel of failure worked so well for Denver already, after all!

Nah, honestly it's time the Giants evaluate their next QB anyway. That they're seeing whether it's Smith is baffling, but that they're planning for life post-Eli isn't a bad idea at this point.

Yeah, I can understand wanting to see what Webb can do behind one of the worst lines in football, no running backs of note and a wide receiving corps that is Bears-esque at this point, but Geno's already started in that stadium a dozen times or so.

And as much as I dislike the great pouter, props to him for not extending his streak with some honorary starts.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: misterpants on 28 November 2017, 21:38:29
Maybe McAdoo thought he could do the McDermott thing.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 29 November 2017, 06:30:36
Week 13 picks

WAS@DAL
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI (I expect that there will be tix available for this game. Yuck)
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 29 November 2017, 13:54:46
WAS@DAL
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 29 November 2017, 14:03:54
WAS@DAL
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 29 November 2017, 14:33:55
Why are people still picking the Chiefs?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 29 November 2017, 14:44:34
Why are people still picking the Chiefs?
Because they are playing the Jets(Ewww)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 November 2017, 14:48:28
The Jets are surprisingly mediocre.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 29 November 2017, 15:07:14
The Jets are surprisingly mediocre.

For a team that I thought was 3-13 if they were lucky, I've been surprised and impressed by them. Maybe not a powerhouse team, but a lot better than expected. Note too that a couple of their losses, like the one to Jacksonville, were very VERY close ones that could have just as easily gone the other way.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 November 2017, 15:39:18
And New England with the whole touchdown to touchback thing.

I hate that touchback rule. It makes no sense to penalize a team for getting closer to the endzone.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 29 November 2017, 16:09:36
And New England with the whole touchdown to touchback thing.

I hate that touchback rule. It makes no sense to penalize a team for getting closer to the endzone.

There's no shortage of NFL rules that make zero sense. That's near the top, for sure.

But how good of the NFL's officiating crews to make sure to display that wide range of rules so often! Every other play gets a yellow-flagged showing-off now!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 29 November 2017, 16:17:16
After a two-week absence, I have returned to deliver that brand of low-end mediocrity you've come to expect

WAS@DAL (Pretty sure Garrett is coaching for his job here. But the 'boys have looked atrocious without zeke)
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI Poopbowl
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ (I may have picked KC, but [dennygreen]ALEX SMITH IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS[/dennygreen]
IND@JAX Poopbowl alternate
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 29 November 2017, 18:59:29
Sorry Satris, I was mediocre before mediocrity was the new normal.   ;)

WAS@DAL
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 30 November 2017, 07:20:56
Sorry Satris, I was mediocre before mediocrity was the new normal.   ;)

"If I was any more bland and mediocre I'd be the Dallas Cowboys."
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 30 November 2017, 12:41:34
For the Browns, mediocre would be a dramatic improvement.    >:D
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 30 November 2017, 16:50:46
The number of people going on Denver sports sites and screeching for the Broncos to bring in Eli Manning for next season is deafening. And batshit-stupid.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 30 November 2017, 16:53:11
Well, his QB stat is pretty mediocre but his luck stat is almost maxxed out!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 30 November 2017, 17:34:16
The number of people going on Denver sports sites and screeching for the Broncos to bring in Eli Manning for next season is deafening. And batshit-stupid.

I've seen it, but I've also seen assumptions that Kirk Cousins isn't staying with Washington and only has Denver as a logical destination as well.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 30 November 2017, 18:05:10
I've seen it, but I've also seen assumptions that Kirk Cousins isn't staying with Washington and only has Denver as a logical destination as well.

That move just... eh. It makes sense in that he's a clear improvement from the three stooges currently in Denver. He's also not a clear improvement in terms of the amount of money he'll be drawing in. The price has been set high by Snyder, and while he's not a bad QB he's also not exactly Drew Brees, you know?

Thing to remember: The three-headed blundernaut that is the Denver QB corps right now, bad as it is, is also cheap. Neither Siemian nor Lynch earn a great deal per year, and while Osweiler does he's earning most of it via Cleveland's payroll. It may be a difficult sell to bring in someone as high-priced as Cousins, even if we assume at least one of these three is gone by training camp (Osweiler, most likely- Lynch probably buys more time and another chance by dint of being drafted so high and recent). Bear in mind that Denver's GM position is pretty solid- it's hard to conjure, even as bad as this team is, that they'd fire JOHN ELWAY. But ownership is a little different- Pat Bowlen has advance Alzheimer's disease, and his son is currently steward of the team, but whether he'll be interested in throwing a lot of money at a QB is anyone's guess.

Strange times in the Mile High City, for sure. Even in the McDaniels era, I can't think of the team having this many big question marks hanging over it.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 30 November 2017, 21:11:06
The number of people going on Denver sports sites and screeching for the Broncos to bring in Eli Manning for next season is deafening. And batshit-stupid.
I wholeheartedly agree.  When Eli leaves he will be taking I-95 due south to Jacksonville and rejoin with Tom Coughlin. He's up there in age and he's highly overrated. He's claim to fame is denying Brady two more SB victories.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 04 December 2017, 13:05:32
Ben McAdoo is now Ben McAdon't as he and Jerry Reese were given their walking papers today. I wonder if Steve Spagnuolo will take over for the last 4 games.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 04 December 2017, 15:05:45
Yeah, they made it official that Spags is the coach for the duration.

What ISN'T clear is whether Eli gets his starting job back or not.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 04 December 2017, 15:17:07
I was worried the Eagles were spending a little too much time practicing their group celebrations.  With any luck 2 losses on the season now won't cost them the #1 seed, and  last night will have slapped a reality check in place.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 04 December 2017, 16:04:17
*nod*

While Seattle did play heck of a game, especially defensively, the Eagles could have come away with a win if they could have just completed a couple plays that they failed on.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: misterpants on 04 December 2017, 20:30:46
Philadelphia's schedule has been weaker than expected, the sooner that reality check the better for them.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 05 December 2017, 04:14:10
Yeah, they made it official that Spags is the coach for the duration.

What ISN'T clear is whether Eli gets his starting job back or not.
Eli will be starting on Sunday
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 05 December 2017, 13:34:56
WAS@DAL
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA Seriously, ****** this team.
KC@NYJ
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN

No, seriously ****** the Broncos and Vance Joseph.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 05 December 2017, 14:04:13
I feel you, JHB, but you can also add John Elway to the ****** hate list as heled create this mess.

Week 13 picks

WAS@DAL
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI (I expect that there will be tix available for this game. Yuck)
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN

Another good week with a 12-4 record.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 05 December 2017, 16:11:10
WAS@DAL
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN

I've done worse...
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 05 December 2017, 18:27:24
WAS@DAL
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN

I keep this up and I might have to start ducking head coaching calls from the Cleveland Browns. :D
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 06 December 2017, 09:38:06
After a two-week absence, I have returned to deliver that brand of low-end mediocrity you've come to expect

WAS@DAL (great time to show up, DAL)
MIN@ATL
NE@BUF
SF@CHI
TB@GB
HOU@TEN
DEN@MIA
KC@NYJ in a double whammy, my wife's fantasy team got -4 from KC's defense
IND@JAX
DET@BAL
CLE@LAC
NYG@OAK
CAR@NO
LAR@ARI
PHI@SEA
PIT@CIN

11-5 but felt like 7-9

I keep this up and I might have to start ducking head coaching calls from the Cleveland Browns. :D

or the University of Tennessee
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 06 December 2017, 10:40:32
Week 14 picks

NO@ATL
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 06 December 2017, 11:06:15
NO@ATL (Waffled several times on this one)
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN (Please?)
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 06 December 2017, 12:44:46
NO@ATL
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 06 December 2017, 16:12:24
NYJ@DEN (Please?)

You need to stop that.

Just stop.

At this point, I think Cleveland could beat them.    #P
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 06 December 2017, 16:14:45
NO@ATL
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 06 December 2017, 17:05:49
You need to stop that.

Just stop.

At this point, I think Cleveland could beat them.    #P
Ha! The Browns can't even themselves.

Then again, if the Broncos played the Browns like they did the Dolphins, you could be right.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 06 December 2017, 17:32:47
Man, Roger Goodell would totally wreck any team's salary cap if they tried to sign him. $40M a year!
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 07 December 2017, 01:21:15
NO@ATL
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Øystein on 10 December 2017, 14:14:39
Boy, quite a snowy game in Buffalo.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 10 December 2017, 17:21:19
I hope that game goes down in history as the "Snowvertime" game.

Also go Chiefs.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 10 December 2017, 18:25:44
Random headline that says a lot about the Brown Notes...

"Browns' Josh Gordon Scores 1st Touchdown in Nearly 4 Years"
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 11 December 2017, 03:01:04
Not only did Denver win, but they shut out the Jets.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 12 December 2017, 13:43:10
NO@ATL (Waffled several times on this one)
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN (Please?) Where has THAT defense been???
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA

...woof. That one sucked.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 12 December 2017, 14:08:17
Week 14 picks

NO@ATL

IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA
Can I havea mulligan. But my record is good enough for a Top 5 pick in the Draft (4-12)
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 12 December 2017, 16:10:39
NO@ATL
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA

I see I've reverted back to my early season form.   :-[
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 12 December 2017, 16:54:04
NO@ATL
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE browns gonna browns gonna browns gonna browns gonna...
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI poopbowl
NYJ@DEN
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA

in this clusterbleep of a week, i'll take 9-7
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 12 December 2017, 18:22:55
NO@ATL
IND@BUF
MIN@CAR
CHI@CIN
GB@CLE
SF@HOU
OAK@KC
DET@TB
DAL@NYG
TEN@ARI
NYJ@DEN
WAS@LAC
SEA@JAX
PHI@LAR
BAL@PIT
NE@MIA

"Cleveland Browns you say?  Sorry no hablas englas".
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 13 December 2017, 10:11:20
Week 15 Picks

DEN@IND
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 13 December 2017, 13:37:30
DEN@IND[Just for you JHB. :P]
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE[Perfect season baby!]
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA[because this seems to make Seattle win, especially when they shouldn't]
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 13 December 2017, 14:42:17
DEN@IND Both horse teams should be made into glue at this point...
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR Assuming that there's no Rodgers for GB, of course.
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 14 December 2017, 01:05:56
DEN@IND
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 14 December 2017, 20:39:10
DEN@IND
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB

Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 18 December 2017, 17:04:22
That Raiders-Cowboys game sure got very interesting toward the end. I still hate the touchback rule but I think the Raiders were due for a bad bounce after having most of the breaks go their way.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 18 December 2017, 19:56:32
Somebody needs to figure out what a damn catch is in this stupid league.  This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Charlie 6 on 18 December 2017, 21:20:37
...I still hate the touchback rule...
Forgive me for focusing on this point and I'm not directing this at you.  I just find it strange that there is somewhat recent confusion or frustration on a fundamental rule of football.  A runner can't simply toss or fumble the ball across the goal and expect to get it back at the one-yard line.  Think of it, a runner at the 15-yard bowls the ball forward to get it at the one-yard line.  That's not reflective of either rushing or passing.  I suspect Mike Florio, of ProFootballTalk, has made the frustration popular.  I'm not biased either, I recall yelling at my TV as RGIII bumbled this play on two occasions and being frustrated by the result.  That said, why do you hate the rule?
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 18 December 2017, 22:02:12
Somebody needs to figure out what a damn catch is in this stupid league.  This is ridiculous.

Damn near unwatchable. Getting pretty tired of penalties on two of every three plays, wildly inconsistent calls, and games decided by the men in stripes.

Hard to believe it after a life of being a Broncos fan, but... man, the NFL sucks this year.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 December 2017, 01:06:43
DEN@IND
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB

Better than last week.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Scotty on 19 December 2017, 01:07:44
Forgive me for focusing on this point and I'm not directing this at you.  I just find it strange that there is somewhat recent confusion or frustration on a fundamental rule of football.  A runner can't simply toss or fumble the ball across the goal and expect to get it back at the one-yard line.  Think of it, a runner at the 15-yard bowls the ball forward to get it at the one-yard line.  That's not reflective of either rushing or passing.  I suspect Mike Florio, of ProFootballTalk, has made the frustration popular.  I'm not biased either, I recall yelling at my TV as RGIII bumbled this play on two occasions and being frustrated by the result.  That said, why do you hate the rule?

Allow me to burn your strawman for you, and remind you that you can't advance a fumble.  There's a name for this, an entire play built around it (it's called a "Fumblerooski"), and it's been illegal in the NFL for over 25 years.  Fumbles that go out of bounds are returned to the place where the fumble occurred.

The only place that this changes is in the endzone, where the defense is magically assumed to have recovered.  It's bullshit.  Nowhere else in all of football is the defense assumed to have made a play on the ball when the ball becomes dead.  It also has the really, really unfortunate side effect of turning something exciting (diving for the pylon) into not only something not exciting (failing to get the TD through no effort of the defense), but something actively unfun to watch (the defense being rewarded for happenstance) that has ruined no fewer than three games this year.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 19 December 2017, 02:17:59
Week 15 Picks

DEN@IND
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB

15-1 this week and the only game I lost was due to the dumbest rule in football
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 19 December 2017, 02:36:36
DEN@IND[Just for you JHB. :P]-Somehow I knew that would result in a Broncos victory by making that call.
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE[Perfect season baby!]
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA[because this seems to make Seattle win, especially when they shouldn't]-Ouch.
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB

That could have gone better.
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Post by: Sartris on 19 December 2017, 04:56:06
DEN@IND
CHI@DET
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB

Have you ever gone through your day thinking you had made the right choices only to come back and be betrayed by that idiot, Past You?

I would have bet a not insubstantial amount of money that I had picked both LA teams to win. Not so, says the magic internet box.

Anyway the rules of football are needlessly complex and a multi-billion dollar industry is making critical decions in games on the best guess of a part time employee making a fudged jugement call regarding the position of the football in a scrum. That same part time employee then justifies his guesstimated ball position with OH MY GOD A FOLDED INDEX CARD. NOT EVEN HE CAN KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE

Meanwhile I’d like to take the following poll
Q1: Do you believe that not contacting gronk, a known polar bear trained to catch footballs, at the line of scrimmage, and subsequently allowing him to roam free through the Steelers’ secondary is a GOOD IDEA, a BAD IDEA, or a FIRABLE OFFENSE?
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 December 2017, 09:29:06
Forgive me for focusing on this point and I'm not directing this at you.  I just find it strange that there is somewhat recent confusion or frustration on a fundamental rule of football.  A runner can't simply toss or fumble the ball across the goal and expect to get it back at the one-yard line.  Think of it, a runner at the 15-yard bowls the ball forward to get it at the one-yard line.  That's not reflective of either rushing or passing.  I suspect Mike Florio, of ProFootballTalk, has made the frustration popular.  I'm not biased either, I recall yelling at my TV as RGIII bumbled this play on two occasions and being frustrated by the result.  That said, why do you hate the rule?

It penalizes the team for doing better. Fumble the ball at the 50, get it back there. Fumble the ball at the 2, get it there. Fumble at the one inch line, get it there. Fumble into the endzone? Whoa! The other team gets it. Should have fumbled it farther away.

And again, this benefited my team this time.
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 December 2017, 09:40:13
Allow me to burn your strawman for you, and remind you that you can't advance a fumble.  There's a name for this, an entire play built around it (it's called a "Fumblerooski"), and it's been illegal in the NFL for over 25 years.  Fumbles that go out of bounds are returned to the place where the fumble occurred.

The only place that this changes is in the endzone, where the defense is magically assumed to have recovered.  It's bullshit.  Nowhere else in all of football is the defense assumed to have made a play on the ball when the ball becomes dead.  It also has the really, really unfortunate side effect of turning something exciting (diving for the pylon) into not only something not exciting (failing to get the TD through no effort of the defense), but something actively unfun to watch (the defense being rewarded for happenstance) that has ruined no fewer than three games this year.
Again, not trying to be rude or force burning of anything on your part.  Just trying to have a discussion.  The point about which I was inarticulate was the question is about possession.  A fumble, like a punt or quick kick, is a loss of possession.  The offense must retain possession.  Lose possession in the offenses end zone is a safety.  Lose possession in the defensive end zone it is a touchback regardless of means. The only place the offense is rewarded for bungling possession is when the ball remains loose and goes across the sideline.  That's the outlier because the onus is on the offense to retain possession of the ball.

Also, the fumbling player is only player that can advance the ball but only in the last two minutes of the half.  And you've mistaken the Holy Roller with the Fumblerooskie (illegal in college but not the pros if the ball is placed behind the QB).
It penalizes the team for doing better. Fumble the ball at the 50, get it back there. Fumble the ball at the 2, get it there. Fumble at the one inch line, get it there. Fumble into the endzone? Whoa! The other team gets it. Should have fumbled it farther away.

And again, this benefited my team this time.
Supposedly, via Twitter, Belichick will bench players that try to stretch or reach likely because he is directly concerned with possessing the ball.

I have seen the 'Skins burned and benefitted from it.  I just don't get the confusion over ball control.
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Post by: Scotty on 19 December 2017, 09:57:02
It's not confusion.  We think the rule is stupid, bad, and unfun.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 December 2017, 10:26:10
That's the outlier because the onus is on the offense to retain possession of the ball.


That makes no sense. How is 100 yards out of 120 the outlier? How is the onus on the offense to retain possession of the ball when 5/6th of the sideline rewards the offense with the ball should it cross (or a player touching the ball cross) while only a sixth of the field rewards the defense? If the onus was so much on the offense then the defense would be rewarded with any ball fumbled out of bounds.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 December 2017, 10:28:13
DEN@IND Both horse teams should be made into glue at this point...
CHI@DET[/b]
LAC@KC
MIA@BUF
BAL@CLE
CIN@MIN
NYJ@NO
PHI@NYG
ARI@WAS
GB@CAR Assuming that there's no Rodgers for GB, of course.
HOU@JAX
LAR@SEA
NE@PIT
TEN@SF
DAL@OAK
ATL@TB
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 December 2017, 12:04:26
That makes no sense. How is 100 yards out of 120 the outlier? How is the onus on the offense to retain possession of the ball when 5/6th of the sideline rewards the offense with the ball should it cross (or a player touching the ball cross) while only a sixth of the field rewards the defense? If the onus was so much on the offense then the defense would be rewarded with any ball fumbled out of bounds.
I am close to the point to thinking that last part should be the case.  Anyway, it isn't so much about distance but about instance. The only instance in which loss of possession equals retained possession fumbling out of bounds. Every other loss of possession is fundamentally bad. Hence an outlier in possession determination.

A quibble with your point, 2/3rds rewards the offense for bungling; 1/6th yields a safety and the last sixth a touchback.  Put in that context, distance and function become relevant.  The sidelines stop play and the clock while the end zones stop play, the clock and control scoring.  The cost is higher for failing to control the ball around the end zones.  Also, fumble is inherently a negative word and not something to be rewarded.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 December 2017, 12:35:09
I am close to the point to thinking that last part should be the case.  Anyway, it isn't so much about distance but about instance. The only instance in which loss of possession equals retained possession fumbling out of bounds. Every other loss of possession is fundamentally bad. Hence an outlier in possession determination.

That's not true. If there is no recovery the offense retains the ball. The only way the defense gets possession is if they have possession of the ball or in the end zone instances.

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A quibble with your point, 2/3rds rewards the offense for bungling; 1/6th yields a safety and the last sixth a touchback. 

Again, that's not correct. 5/6ths of the length of the field the offense retains possession. 1/12th of the time the defense gets a safety and 1/12th of the time the defense gets a touchback. The field is 100 yards long and each endzone is 10 yards deep, fro a total of 120 yards of sideline on each side.


And that treats all parts of the field equally where we know that the ball is toward the middle of the field far more frequently than near either goal.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 December 2017, 12:36:48
To me, make it easy and place the ball on the 1-yard line. Why this has to be so damned complicated is beyond me (and a hallmark of the modern NFL, as a result)
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 December 2017, 13:29:59
To me, make it easy and place the ball on the 1-yard line. Why this has to be so damned complicated is beyond me (and a hallmark of the modern NFL, as a result)
Or you know, hold onto the ball.
That's not true. If there is no recovery the offense retains the ball. The only way the defense gets possession is if they have possession of the ball or in the end zone instances.

Again, that's not correct. 5/6ths of the length of the field the offense retains possession. 1/12th of the time the defense gets a safety and 1/12th of the time the defense gets a touchback. The field is 100 yards long and each endzone is 10 yards deep, fro a total of 120 yards of sideline on each side.


And that treats all parts of the field equally where we know that the ball is toward the middle of the field far more frequently than near either goal.
First, smartphones aren't conducive to typing or multi-quoting.

Second, a team loses possession of the ball if they punt it, quick kick it, or fumble it even momentarily. That's the point of context. As you said, if no one recovers it before going out bounds it goes back to the offense.  If is it punted out bounds it is still a change of possession and the same holds true for the quick kick. The unintentional action, the mistake, the fumble benefits the offender.

Third, math at which I do poor work.  You're counting the sideline in the end zone but not the endlines which have the same effect and are 53.3 yds wide.  So 200yds of sideline and 146ish of end zone boundary.  I get your point but not to the 1/12th degree if you will. I was going with the same 200 yds, 106 of goal line and breaking that into sixths. Sorry for being unclear.

I like but don't agree with your summary point. Thanks for helping me get past Florio's "dumbest rule" argument to something more cogent.

My point is to treat possession equally and don't reward a mistake regardless of field position.

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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 December 2017, 13:45:22
Or you know, hold onto the ball.

Which, yeah, while you aren't wrong that still doesn't always happen, so having a better plan in place besides 'stop screwing up' would be pretty helpful. After all, if it were as easy as just saying 'don't screw up', we wouldn't have the Browns in the first place, would we?
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Post by: monbvol on 19 December 2017, 13:53:34
Well the Browns are just a special case.

I'm pretty sure someone told them not to screw up then they went and drafted Johny "football".  Now I'm willing to bet he could have been a much better QB if developed by another team but we all saw how that turned out.
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 December 2017, 14:02:52
Which, yeah, while you aren't wrong that still doesn't always happen, so having a better plan in place besides 'stop screwing up' would be pretty helpful. After all, if it were as easy as just saying 'don't screw up', we wouldn't have the Browns in the first place, would we?
I yell that at my TV all the time. I still don't get why the 'Skins can't stop doing otherwise.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 December 2017, 14:10:19
I yell that at my TV all the time. I still don't get why the 'Skins can't stop doing otherwise.

"Karma" would be my guess.
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Post by: Scotty on 19 December 2017, 16:20:47
Point of information: fumbles do not actually change possession from the moment the ball is fumbled.  It's still the offense's ball until the moment the defense gains control.  This is why a fumble on 4th down is still a turnover on downs if the ball was short of the sticks, even if the offense recovers.  Similarly, punts and FGS are deliberate changes of possession to set them apart.  Intent matters on kicks.

The end zone is the only time the defence is assumed to make a play to gain possession.
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 19 December 2017, 22:54:24
Point of information: fumbles do not actually change possession from the moment the ball is fumbled.  It's still the offense's ball until the moment the defense gains control.  This is why a fumble on 4th down is still a turnover on downs if the ball was short of the sticks, even if the offense recovers.  Similarly, punts and FGS are deliberate changes of possession to set them apart.  Intent matters on kicks.
Agreed on the change of possession aspect but if I remember Mike Pereira correctly it is a two part process:  loss and recover.  I was referring to the loss aspect of that two-parter but can see how my post can seem otherwise.

I thought about intent for kicks but discarded it as a supporting angle.  Yes, the offense elects to kick but the relevant aspect is what generates a touchback which is punting or quick kicking the ball into the end zone.  The kicker sent the ball out of the field of play into the scoring area by way of an intentional act.  The kicker isn't rewarded for that.  Even more to the point, a failed field goal is effectively a turnover at the spot of the kick.  The message is clear, don't choose to lose control the ball around the end zone.
But if a player fumbles out of bounds or out of the end zone unintentionally the argument is that a fundamental football mistake should be rewarded by returning the ball back to the spot of the mistake.
The end zone is the only time the defence is assumed to make a play to gain possession.
I wrestled with this part for a while but I believe you are assuming that the offense gets a pass for making a mistake while close to scoring.  It isn't about the defense.
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Post by: Scotty on 19 December 2017, 23:48:05
Agreed on the change of possession aspect but if I remember Mike Pereira correctly it is a two part process:  loss and recover.  I was referring to the loss aspect of that two-parter but can see how my post can seem otherwise.

But the thing is that the loss doesn't matter except in the sense of the ball still being live but not under control by a player on the offense.  Recovery is the only part of a fumble that actually has any effect on possession.

I thought about intent for kicks but discarded it as a supporting angle.  Yes, the offense elects to kick but the relevant aspect is what generates a touchback which is punting or quick kicking the ball into the end zone.  The kicker sent the ball out of the field of play into the scoring area by way of an intentional act.  The kicker isn't rewarded for that.  Even more to the point, a failed field goal is effectively a turnover at the spot of the kick.

 ???

You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see how this is relevant at all to whether or not the offense should be uniquely penalized in the end zone and nowhere else when it comes to fumbles out of bounds.  The relevant aspect to what generates a touchback isn't "punting or quick kicking the ball into the end zone", it's "the ball cannot be played from the endzone" which is where the receiving team recovers it.  That's literally the entire reason touchbacks exist.  The ball cannot be placed or snapped inside the endzone, so it has to go somewhere else.

But if a player fumbles out of bounds or out of the end zone unintentionally the argument is that a fundamental football mistake should be rewarded by returning the ball back to the spot of the mistake.I wrestled with this part for a while but I believe you are assuming that the offense gets a pass for making a mistake while close to scoring.  It isn't about the defense.

I'm still waiting to hear why the enormity of the mistake should be magnified an infinite amount because the runner was six inches closer to the goal line than one who fumbled out of bounds at the one.  The rules for what happen away from the endzone include this "reward".  Straight out of the book:

"A fumble that goes forward and out of bounds will return to the fumbling team at the spot of the fumble unless the ball goes out of bounds in the opponent’s end zone. In this case, it is a touchback."

Emphasis added.  Literally everywhere else the offense gets "rewarded" (I'm going to really disagree here, and say that it's definitely about the defense.  They haven't earned a damn thing and shouldn't be 'rewarded' either).  It's an asinine exception that does nothing but turn exciting plays into utterly unexciting and bitterly disappointing turnovers.

All it does is declare "never dive for the pylon" or "never try to extend the play into the endzone" which are some of the most spectacular and entertaining plays in the entire game.  Any rule that not only discourages that kind of play, but can actually lose entire games (2017 count: three) is pretty firmly antithetical to an entertainment product.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sartris on 20 December 2017, 00:32:18
Let's go back to the nineteenth century rules where field goals were worth five points
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Post by: Sharpnel on 20 December 2017, 08:22:07
Predictions for the penultimate week

IND@BAL
MIN@GB
CLE@CHI
DET@CIN
LAR@TEN
MIA@KC
BUF@NE
ATL@NO
LAC@NYJ
DEN@WAS
TB@CAR
JAX@SF
SEA@DAL
NYG@ARI
PIT@HOU
OAK@PHI
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 20 December 2017, 09:59:24
All it does is declare "never dive for the pylon" or "never try to extend the play into the endzone" which are some of the most spectacular and entertaining plays in the entire game.  Any rule that not only discourages that kind of play, but can actually lose entire games (2017 count: three) is pretty firmly antithetical to an entertainment product.
The rule is fine.  I fail to see how rewarding a player that is reckless with the ball and loses it before crossing the goal (hey there Desean Jackson, Leon Lett, Byron Marshall twice in a college season, RGIII, etc.) would increase entertainment value.  They goofed, they fumbled, and were at that moment inherently incompetent.  A team should lose a game on the account of bungling the basics.  Play smart, protect the ball and do the job.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 20 December 2017, 10:28:53
IND@BAL
MIN@GB
CLE@CHI
DET@CIN
LAR@TEN
MIA@KC
BUF@NE
ATL@NO
LAC@NYJ
DEN@WAS
TB@CAR
JAX@SF
SEA@DAL
NYG@ARI
PIT@HOU
OAK@PHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 20 December 2017, 13:12:33
IND@BAL
MIN@GB
CLE@CHI
DET@CIN
LAR@TEN
MIA@KC
BUF@NE
ATL@NO
LAC@NYJ
DEN@WAS
TB@CAR
JAX@SF
SEA@DAL
NYG@ARI
PIT@HOU
OAK@PHI
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 20 December 2017, 14:03:05
The rule is fine.  I fail to see how rewarding a player that is reckless with the ball and loses it before crossing the goal (hey there Desean Jackson, Leon Lett, Byron Marshall twice in a college season, RGIII, etc.) would increase entertainment value.  They goofed, they fumbled, and were at that moment inherently incompetent.  A team should lose a game on the account of bungling the basics.  Play smart, protect the ball and do the job.
So why not award the ball to the defense any time it's fumbled out of bounds?
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Post by: Fat Guy on 27 December 2017, 08:55:11
IND@BAL
MIN@GB
CLE@CHI
DET@CIN
LAR@TEN
MIA@KC
BUF@NE
ATL@NO
LAC@NYJ
DEN@WAS
TB@CAR
JAX@SF
SEA@DAL
NYG@ARI
PIT@HOU
OAK@PHI

That ties my best.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 27 December 2017, 09:16:53
Predictions for the penultimate week

IND@BAL
MIN@GB
CLE@CHI
DET@CIN
LAR@TEN
MIA@KC
BUF@NE
ATL@NO
LAC@NYJ
DEN@WAS
TB@CAR
JAX@SF
SEA@DAL
NYG@ARI
PIT@HOU
OAK@PHI

13-3 last week

Final Week picks

GB@DET
HOU@IND
CHI@MIN
NYJ@NE
WAS@NYG
DAL@PHI
CLE@PIT
CAR@ATL
KC@DEN
JAX@TEN
SF@LAR
BUF@MIA
OAK@LAC
ARI@SEA
NO@TB
CIN@BAL
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: monbvol on 27 December 2017, 13:18:21
IND@BAL
MIN@GB
CLE@CHI
DET@CIN
LAR@TEN
MIA@KC
BUF@NE
ATL@NO
LAC@NYJ
DEN@WAS
TB@CAR
JAX@SF
SEA@DAL
NYG@ARI
PIT@HOU
OAK@PHI

I've had a lot worse.

GB@DET
HOU@IND
CHI@MIN
NYJ@NE
WAS@NYG
DAL@PHI
CLE@PIT-Perfect season baby!
CAR@ATL
KC@DEN
JAX@TEN
SF@LAR
BUF@MIA
OAK@LAC
ARI@SEA-Really starting to feel like I have to peg Seattle to lose to get them to play even half decent.
NO@TB
CIN@BAL
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 27 December 2017, 20:30:53
So is it true that the NFL has canceled Sunday Night Football?
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Post by: ColBosch on 27 December 2017, 22:00:35
Yes. All games will be at either 1300 or 1625 EST.
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 28 December 2017, 08:59:23
So is it true that the NFL has canceled Sunday Night Football?
Yes, they wanted all games with playoff implications to be played at the same, thus no Sunday night game on the last week of the season since the late 70s (77 or 78)
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 28 December 2017, 11:05:34
I'd known about the 'last game' thing but had sworn I read somewhere it was going to be an all games daytime-only like at the times Bosch said.
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Post by: ColBosch on 28 December 2017, 15:18:51
Sorry, no, it's just for New Year's Eve. Sunday Night Football is still decent in the ratings - though football in general is down 9% share this year! - and the NFL will continue the format.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 29 December 2017, 11:06:54
GB@DET
HOU@IND
CHI@MIN
NYJ@NE
WAS@NYG
DAL@PHI
CLE@PIT
CAR@ATL
KC@DEN
JAX@TEN
SF@LAR
BUF@MIA
OAK@LAC
ARI@SEA
NO@TB
CIN@BAL
Title: Re: NFL 2017-2018, all the teams move to L.A. edition
Post by: Fat Guy on 31 December 2017, 18:10:55
"Hello, is Owen there?"

"Owen who?"

"OWEN SIXTEEN!"

(http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/647/592/609e402501422a9ca43d81292e9b4506_crop_exact.png?w=882&h=589&q=75)

Congratulations Cleveland on the perfect season!    #P
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Post by: monbvol on 31 December 2017, 18:54:17
Browns Brownsed so hard that they will be Brownsed for years to come.

Sad part is I think that just may catch on.
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Post by: Scotty on 31 December 2017, 21:05:57
The Buffalo Bills are going to the playoffs.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 31 December 2017, 21:48:21
"A loss to the Chargers in Week 13 also made the Browns 1–27 in their first 28 games under Hue Jackson (making Jackson the worst percentage debut coach of all-time), surpassing the 1976–1977 Buccaneers for the worst 28 game start (2–26) for a regime in NFL history."

That's...damned impressive, certainly.  Considering they won four games in total if you add the entire 2015 season in as well...
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Post by: The Eagle on 31 December 2017, 23:01:50
The Buffalo Bills are going to the playoffs.


YEEEEEEEAH BUDDY!  First time since '99, too.  I watched the Bills beat the Fish, and then I got to watch the end of the Bengals/Raven game and that was a nail-biter!
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Post by: monbvol on 31 December 2017, 23:26:27
GB@DET
HOU@IND
CHI@MIN
NYJ@NE
WAS@NYG
DAL@PHI
CLE@PIT-Perfect season baby!
CAR@ATL
KC@DEN
JAX@TEN
SF@LAR
BUF@MIA
OAK@LAC
ARI@SEA-Really starting to feel like I have to peg Seattle to lose to get them to play even half decent.
NO@TB
CIN@BAL

I see now what I did wrong.  I needed to peg Atlanta to win too.  Well maybe I'll just have to follow Buffalo again.
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Post by: monbvol on 31 December 2017, 23:51:23
Well seems like I can also go back and check my predictions at this point.

Quote
NFC West-Seattle.  Mostly because it has to be someone
NFC North-Vikings.  Packers just seem to be having too many issues and everyone else is questionable at best
NFC South-Tampa.  This one is a toss up but again it has to be someone
NFC East-Dallas.  Dak has shown he is something they can work with and they can protect him and protect their leads

Wild cards-Philidelphia and Green Bay

AFC West-Kansas City.  Denver still hasn't sorted out all their issues, Chargers are going to be a train wreck having moved to a new city, and Oakland is going to be too busy trying to get moved out of Oakland to do anything else
AFC North-Pittsburg.  Bungles might challenge for it but fall short.
AFC South-Indianapolis.  Another toss up that is more going to be decided by someone has to than anyone being good enough to actually deserve it
AFC East-New England.  I mean really why even pretend anyone else is going to even come close.

Wild cards-Miami and Denver

Super Bowl-New England over Dallas and me rooting for a meteor to come down and put me out of my misery.


Yeah I don't feel like it is fair calling New England to get the AFC East so I put it as blue.  Not even 50%.  Ugh.  But in my defense I don't think anyone saw how much of a monster Philly or the Rams wound up being coming.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 01 January 2018, 16:07:36
GB@DET
HOU@IND
CHI@MIN
NYJ@NE
WAS@NYG
DAL@PHI
CLE@PIT
CAR@ATL
KC@DEN
JAX@TEN
SF@LAR
BUF@MIA
OAK@LAC
ARI@SEA
NO@TB
CIN@BAL

Seems I failed to take into account teams with nothing to play for.

Baltimore, what the hell!? The only thing standing between you and the playoffs was the Bungholes, and you lose?   ???
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Post by: Bosefius on 01 January 2018, 17:22:52
Well seems like I can also go back and check my predictions at this point.


Yeah I don't feel like it is fair calling New England to get the AFC East so I put it as blue.  Not even 50%.  Ugh.  But in my defense I don't think anyone saw how much of a monster Philly or the Rams wound up being coming.

The Rams and Vikings are the two scariest teams on the NFC side. As a Steelers fan Jacksonville scares me on the AFC side. Of course, New England is still there bully that gets the calls.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 01 January 2018, 17:34:19
Huh... could have sworn I made a prediction post for this week... must have forgotten to hit 'post' or something. Ah well.
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Post by: monbvol on 01 January 2018, 17:34:29
The Vikings didn't surprise me like the Eagles did.  But yeah I think the Vikings are a more rounded team that will do a bit better for it.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 01 January 2018, 17:44:42
Yeah, I pencil Denver as third in the West this year, barring something weird happening. I'll take the Raiders to win it, with the Chiefs in a dogfight to the end and getting a wild card spot.

In fact...

AFC:

West: Oakland Er... yeah, kinda didn't see their collapse happening.
North: Pittsburgh Got that one right anyway. No one else in the division cared enough.
East: GEE I ****** WONDER... OH MY GOD YOU GUYS I PICKED THE PATRIOTS AND THEY GOT IT! ZOMG!
South: (quick Hellbie, pick someone at random) ...Tennessee? Who the ****** are the Jacksonville Jaguars? Is that an NFL team?
Wild Cards: Kansas City, Baltimore Almost called Baltimore until they stopped giving a crap at the end of their last game...

NFC:

West: Seattle I figured the Rams would be BETTER, but... wow. Very impressed.
North: Green Bay Let's be real. The Vikings looked iffy at QB, and losing Rodgers was a deathblow.
East: Washington (UPSET SPECIAL) Hey guys! I forgot how to football! Thanks for playing!
South: (again, pick at random) Atlanta This was the most competitive division this year, by far. No regrets on the wrong pick.
Wild Cards: Dallas, Carolina Still not 100% sure if it was the Elliotte suspension that killed Dallas, or just that awful O-line.
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Post by: Bosefius on 01 January 2018, 18:29:53
The Vikings didn't surprise me like the Eagles did.  But yeah I think the Vikings are a more rounded team that will do a bit better for it.

Without Wentz I don't see the Eagles winning a playoff game. I really think it will be Rams and Vikings in the NFC Championship with the Vikes moving on. Those two teams are really, really good.
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Post by: monbvol on 01 January 2018, 18:39:58
*nod*

Vikings have had a bit of a merry go round for starting QBs but do seem to be winning games, convincingly, and against quality opponents.

So I won't be surprised if your prediction comes true.
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 01 January 2018, 20:31:45
Without Wentz I don't see the Eagles winning a playoff game. I really think it will be Rams and Vikings in the NFC Championship with the Vikes moving on. Those two teams are really, really good.

I would like to believe, but I was there in 1988, 1998, 2000, 2008...
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Post by: Bosefius on 01 January 2018, 21:08:44
I would like to believe, but I was there in 1988, 1998, 2000, 2008...

I understand completely.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 01 January 2018, 21:32:57
Want the really funny part to the Vikings?

IF they go to the Super Bowl, it's in their own house- they'd be the first team to play in their own barn for the Super Bowl... BUT. It's the AFC's turn to 'host'. That means the Vikings, despite being at home, are the 'away' team and have to wear the away uniform. It also means the Vikings, theoretically, would use the 'away' locker room- not their own, which would be in use by the AFC team (though I suspect rules would be bent in that case)!
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Post by: Sartris on 02 January 2018, 16:07:10
The vikes in the playoffs at all is super bothersome logistically to the NFL since they don’t fully turn over the keys to the stadium until after the run is over (if it ends at all). The very real possibility of the eagles messing around and losing means  the NFC championship game could be in Minnesota, which I believe is unprecedented

Regardless my sister in law works in the building where espn is anchoring their coverage so I’m going to get a livestream of how much the whole experience sucks for everyone who isn’t there for the game
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 02 January 2018, 19:24:44
1988, 1998, 2000, 2008...
and now it's 2018...I sense a recurring ten year pattern...
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 02 January 2018, 21:02:02
I wish I would have been able to rent my mpls condo out for the superbowl but the association had strict rules against that.  However my hunch is that my current renters are going to take a two week vacation in January and February and my association board is going to be calling me about the beer bottles being thrown from my deck into the pool...
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 06 January 2018, 21:07:30
Well. I was ready to give up on the Titans at halftime.

Glad I didn't. That was a hell of a comeback. (Mariota passing to himself for a TD was memorable as hell)
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 06 January 2018, 21:24:20
Well. I was ready to give up on the Titans at halftime.

Glad I didn't. That was a hell of a comeback. (Mariota passing to himself for a TD was memorable as hell)
That block was pretty solid too.
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 07 January 2018, 02:08:01
Was fully expecting the Chefs to get it together and at least make it past round 1. 
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Post by: Sharpnel on 07 January 2018, 02:42:47
In the Chiefs loss, I have two words to explain their loss, Andy Reid
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Post by: Sartris on 07 January 2018, 12:37:52
Well. I was ready to give up on the Titans at halftime.

Glad I didn't. That was a hell of a comeback. (Mariota passing to himself for a TD was memorable as hell)

The funny thing about the Mariota play was that maybe ten years ago, #57, who was giving chase before the pass, would have at minimum shoved Mariota to the ground. With the more stringent roughing the passer enforcement he instead only received a token nudge and was still standing to make the crazy player
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 07 January 2018, 14:43:31
The funny thing about the Mariota play was that maybe ten years ago, #57, who was giving chase before the pass, would have at minimum shoved Mariota to the ground. With the more stringent roughing the passer enforcement he instead only received a token nudge and was still standing to make the crazy player

Looking at the replays, its a valuable lesson for some of the players that the play isn't over until the whistle blows. 
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Post by: Scotty on 07 January 2018, 19:13:12
On the other hand, if that Chiefs player had actually shoved Mariota to the ground, you can bet the house Jeff Triplette would have called it roughing the passer.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 07 January 2018, 19:15:58
I loved Triplette announcing after the game that he was retiring. I doubt it was HIS idea to do so.

Side note, I was considering seppuku by the time Bills/Jags ended. That game was awful.
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 07 January 2018, 21:24:32
I loved Triplette announcing after the game that he was retiring. I doubt it was HIS idea to do so.

Side note, I was considering seppuku by the time Bills/Jags ended. That game was awful.

So you don't think that the Jags are going to burn the Pats?
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Post by: monbvol on 07 January 2018, 22:12:30
I don't.

Jacksonville hasn't shown me enough to think they will even get past Pittsburgh.
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 07 January 2018, 22:25:20
I don't have a real lot of hope for either of the AFC winners this weekend, I think that their competition next weekend far out shines them.  And the only team I didn't want to see the Vikings go against, are coming here next weekend.
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Post by: The Eagle on 07 January 2018, 23:17:22

Side note, I was considering seppuku by the time Bills/Jags ended. That game was awful.

Yeah.  My Bills desperately need a new offensive coordinator.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 07 January 2018, 23:43:18
So you don't think that the Jags are going to burn the Pats?

Good lord, no. I mean, they face Pittsburgh next, but after what I saw today (from BOTH of the early-game teams!), I wouldn't pick the two of them TOGETHER on the field at once to beat the Steelers.
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Post by: Sartris on 08 January 2018, 07:58:46
So you don't think that the Jags are going to burn the Pats?

87 yards passing
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 08 January 2018, 13:50:02
The Chiefs Offensive Coordinator only gives it to the 2017 rushing champion 5 times after having built up a double digit lead. So his punishment was apparently being named head coach of the Chicago Bears. I dunno which I feel worse for.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 08 January 2018, 13:54:57
The Chiefs Offensive Coordinator only gives it to the 2017 rushing champion 5 times after having built up a double digit lead. So his punishment was apparently being named head coach of the Chicago Bears. I dunno which I feel worse for.

If the answer isn't 'Trubisky', I don't know who it would be.  ;D
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 09 January 2018, 20:13:55
Good lord, no. I mean, they face Pittsburgh next, but after what I saw today (from BOTH of the early-game teams!), I wouldn't pick the two of them TOGETHER on the field at once to beat the Steelers.

So even if they didn't get called for 22 men on the field...
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Post by: monbvol on 10 January 2018, 02:14:32
So Jon Gruden is returning to coaching and it'll be with the Raiders.

I can only see this going two ways.

1.  It'll sort of work but with how long he's been away from coaching, especially the AFC West, it'll ultimately be mediocre at best.

2.  His system and coaching philosophy just won't fit the Raider's talent and it'll show resulting in complete abject failure and unmitigated disaster.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 10 January 2018, 09:52:09
With a 10 year, 100 million dollar deal he'll get a few seasons to see how it goes.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 10 January 2018, 11:40:32
With a 10 year, 100 million dollar deal he'll get a few seasons to see how it goes.

Hey, after another season, two at the most, he might even get to hire his brother as a coordinator once Washington fires him!
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Post by: Øystein on 13 January 2018, 17:57:39
Gogo Falcons and Pats :D

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Post by: monbvol on 14 January 2018, 03:28:34
After watching highlights of the game I think Philly went and proved they are for real even without Wentz today.
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Post by: monbvol on 14 January 2018, 17:34:01
Having watched most of the second half of the Jacksonville Pittsburgh game I don't think it was so much an upset as the Steelers mismanaging the game.  Maybe not snatching defeat from the jaws of victory bad mismanaging but they certainly made some decisions that ensured they would lose.
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Post by: monbvol on 14 January 2018, 21:18:14
And damn that Vikings Saints game.  That was insane.  Especially the last couple of minutes.
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 14 January 2018, 21:24:32
Good googly moogly that was one heck of a buzzer beater.  I am sure there were hundreds of thousands of minnesotans that were resigned and saying "yup here we are again" I know I was one.  My wife admonished me "that's why you don't give up"  who knew...
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Post by: Sharpnel on 15 January 2018, 05:31:04
Rahim Moore, you are no longer the biggest scapegoat of all time. Marcus Williams, by missing (actually whiffing) on that attempted tackle of Stefon Diggs, are now the holder of that title.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 15 January 2018, 07:27:06
Rahim Moore, you are no longer the biggest scapegoat of all time. Marcus Williams, by missing (actually whiffing) on that attempted tackle of Stefon Diggs, are now the holder of that title.

That was pathetic. Just... man, peewee level stuff, don't HIT the guy, TACKLE him.

Drop him inbounds, game over. No chance to get another play off.

Drop him out of bounds, not MUCH time left (not sure exactly where the clock was at that moment).

The one thing they couldn't do was let him get free, and not only did Williams manage to miss completely on his Sportscenter-attempt hit, but he managed to hit the only other Saints player with a realistic chance to catch him. You couldn't script a play to turn out worse defensively.

Catch your own flight home, pal. Your'e not welcome on the team plane.
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Post by: The Eagle on 15 January 2018, 08:09:36
The clock literally struck 0 as Diggs was running into the end zone, so if Williams had managed to force him out of bounds there would have been a few seconds left.  Enough for a single play, at least.

But yeah.  That thrown shoulder wouldn't have been quite so comically bad if he hadn't flattened the only other Saint close enough to catch Diggs.
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Post by: Bosefius on 15 January 2018, 15:05:14
Discussing, there were four seconds left when he caught the ball (Sportscenter broke it down). Tackling him out of bounds would have stopped the clock but there's always the chance the Vikings kicker misses (right Walsh?). But you have to make that tackle.

Watching the play I really thought Diggs forgot about the clock and took off out of instinct. I was waiting for him to step out of bounds. It was until they showed a replay with a wider shot that I realized there no defenders with any shot. Totally crazy. And Keenum's reaction is amazing.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 15 January 2018, 15:29:31
That was where I was confused, I figured it couldn't be the safety moving up like that, there must be SOMEONE still back there to... wait... no, if there was he wouldn't be taking off like that... oh god, no way.

Best comment I saw on this, by the way, from a Vikings fan: "I wish Blair Walsh was alive to see this."
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Post by: Bosefius on 15 January 2018, 16:54:41
That was where I was confused, I figured it couldn't be the safety moving up like that, there must be SOMEONE still back there to... wait... no, if there was he wouldn't be taking off like that... oh god, no way.
Quote

Exactly, he couldn't have been the okay that badly... Oh, he did. Yikes.

Best comment I saw on this, by the way, from a Vikings fan: "I wish Blair Walsh was alive to see this."

That's funny
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 15 January 2018, 21:00:27
One of the most tragic things I heard about the game on the radio today was that those who bet on the Vikings to win still lost because the spread was 5.5 pts. How many people with $$$$s riding on this were at home with elation but then yelling at the TV "you need to kick the extra point!"
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Post by: Scotty on 15 January 2018, 21:03:06
This is what we call a "bad beat", and it is the most hilarious thing in football.
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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 20 January 2018, 01:11:51
I love the Eagles fan base buying up the global supply (http://theinterrobang.com/amazon-running-dog-masks-eagles-game/) of (under)dog masks.
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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 20 January 2018, 13:53:57
I just saw the best commercial.

Philly Philly! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG6u0aIWNCM)
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 20 January 2018, 16:18:21
http://www.phillyvoice.com/bud-light-well-cover-phillys-beer-tab-if-eagles-win-super-bowl/

Yes they're serious.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 21 January 2018, 19:17:49
Not. The. Deflatriots. AGAIN!

[censored]

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Post by: monbvol on 21 January 2018, 20:12:51
Of course it was going to be the Patriots again.

As much as I find it difficult to accept one team being that consistently dominating as long as they have without doing something illegal Jacksonville never had a chance even without the Patriots doing something underhanded.

I do find myself rooting for the Vikings now for the simple fact that I would like to see history made.  That and i think they might actually make for a better game facing off against the Patriots.
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Post by: Øystein on 21 January 2018, 20:33:43
Honestly, Pats didn't have an easy game of it, espesially once Gronk got sidelined.

They are still very good, but far from the extreme we had even 1-2 years back. THe lack of Edelman this season in the Offense is clearly shown I think.

With Gronk, Amandela and Edelman on the O-line Brady has so many great options to play on.

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Post by: monbvol on 21 January 2018, 20:50:12
Hmm methinks it be a good idea to keep an eye on the injury report for the Super Bowl.  That could have some serious implications for the Super Bowl.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 January 2018, 00:17:53
Postgame show is live on Broadcastify for their Phildaelphia police scanner.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 31 January 2018, 10:16:06
Huh, so the ****** are downgrading themselves at QB with Alex Smith instead of Kirk Cousins. At least they'll have more cap space to spend on overpriced veterans.
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Post by: monbvol on 31 January 2018, 12:41:03
Well they are trying to out dysfunction the Browns.  But then again so are Chicago, Denver, and Detroit.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 31 January 2018, 12:46:51
I'm praying to all the football god that Kirk Cousins does not end up in Denver. He will cost the Broncos $30+ mill/year and cost us at least two players on the current roster (Talib, Thomas or Sanders) to be cut to open up cap room for signing him. I say let the Browns have him, they've got plenty of cap room (100+ million) based on the projectd cap for 2018 (176 million).
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Post by: Scotty on 31 January 2018, 16:10:18
I'm a Chiefs fan and this trade news made my week.  Kendall Fuller is better than getting a first round draft pick; he's proven skill at a tough position and he's getting paid $900k.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 February 2018, 12:29:45
I'm praying to all the football god that Kirk Cousins does not end up in Denver. He will cost the Broncos $30+ mill/year and cost us at least two players on the current roster (Talib, Thomas or Sanders) to be cut to open up cap room for signing him. I say let the Browns have him, they've got plenty of cap room (100+ million) based on the projectd cap for 2018 (176 million).

That's my problem as well. He's a pretty good QB overall, but he's not a guy I'd throw enormous wads of money at the way someone like Brees or Brady would be able to ask for- and that's what we're looking at here, Bradford-levels of cash. That means you don't have money to do anything else with your team anymore.

Screw it, give me the same idiots from last year, draft someone competent to learn the offense (bye Paxton) and let's build the right way instead of scrambling to throw money at a guy who won't have the weapons to be worthwhile anyway.
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Post by: Øystein on 03 February 2018, 18:53:50
Not sure how much of Super Bowl I'l manage to catch, it starts at midnight local time, but Go Pats! :D
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 03 February 2018, 20:48:18
Man, Oystein, I used to respect you.
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Post by: CrossfirePilot on 03 February 2018, 23:44:15
Man, Oystein, I used to respect you.

Is there a way for both teams to lose?
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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 03 February 2018, 23:56:30
Is there a way for both teams to lose?


Maybe. (http://earthsky.org/space/asteroid-2002-aj129-trajectory-february4-2018)
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Post by: Øystein on 04 February 2018, 02:56:56
Man, Oystein, I used to respect you.
:D :D :D :D

My favorite NFL team is Atlanta Falcons, followed by Patriots :D
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 04 February 2018, 22:05:13
So the "Hover-hand" is legal technique for catching a football.  Got it NFL.  Catches make perfect sense.

FYI, I have no rooting interest in the Super Bowl this year.
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Post by: Scotty on 04 February 2018, 22:21:43
All questionable calls should automatically be catches because sick catches are cool as hell and overturning sick catches is the death of football.
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 04 February 2018, 23:00:44
All questionable calls should automatically be catches because sick catches are cool as hell and overturning sick catches is the death of football.
No! Not controlling the football is the death...

I kid.

Also, strong evidence that that the Eagles were in an illegal formation during the Foles touchdown.

This next one might be the dumbest yet.  I say TD with 2:30+ left in the game.

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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 04 February 2018, 23:23:14
 There is a God and he wants us to be happy!

And ****** Dallas!
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Post by: monbvol on 04 February 2018, 23:25:24
Well now the only question is will they have to declare a state of emergency in Philly with the celebrations that are starting now.
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Post by: misterpants on 04 February 2018, 23:55:03
I'm waiting for FB to update with "Marked Safe during the Superbowl Celebrations" alert for a bunch of my philly friends
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Post by: Scotty on 05 February 2018, 02:18:42
Also, strong evidence that that the Eagles were in an illegal formation during the Foles touchdown.


Word is that Jeffrey checked with the refs with where he lined up before the play and got the all-clear.

Since the difference between "on the line" and where he's standing is barely six inches I'm inclined to file this "strong evidence" in the wastebin.

(note: this post not intended to convey a hostile tone)
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Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 February 2018, 06:43:50
Word is that Jeffrey checked with the refs with where he lined up before the play and got the all-clear.

Since the difference between "on the line" and where he's standing is barely six inches I'm inclined to file this "strong evidence" in the wastebin.

(note: this post not intended to convey a hostile tone)
Not meant as a debate since the game is over but the still I saw from a pic on Twitter via PFT was bit further than a few inches. I guess that's the internet equivalent of hearsay from the third crapper to the left.  Anyway, didn't know about the first part.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 05 February 2018, 10:06:02
There is a God and he wants us to be happy!

And ****** Dallas!

Rapestands for everyone!
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Post by: ColBosch on 05 February 2018, 11:14:43
I enjoyed watching the game. It might not have been technically-great football, but it was entertaining.
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Post by: mechnut450 on 05 February 2018, 11:26:02
not a football fan but  watched it (cause that all anyone watched at in-laws) will be safe during philly partying as i about an hour south lol.
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Post by: misterpants on 05 February 2018, 12:05:11
There is a God and he wants us to be happy!

And ****** Dallas!

America outside of Philly and Boston: "Congratulations to **** THE PATRIOTS on winning the Super Bowl!"
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Post by: Foxx Ital on 05 February 2018, 13:19:31
As a long time philly fan i was very happy. The alwqys sunny memes.
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Post by: garhkal on 05 February 2018, 19:21:36
Well now the only question is will they have to declare a state of emergency in Philly with the celebrations that are starting now.
Was going to have a big comment on this, but don't want another long time out..
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 06 February 2018, 00:38:18
I enjoyed watching the game. It might not have been technically-great football, but it was entertaining.
And not a total blowout, nicely done with keeping the scores from getting too far apart - a lot of 'yeah, we're still in this' from the Patriots, and a really tense fourth as far as the scoring went.
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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 06 February 2018, 00:54:16
I'm pretty sure the game aged me a year or so.
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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 06 February 2018, 13:04:26
My favorite SBLII news story making the rounds is whether or not Tom Brady is a sore loser:  he's now 0 for 3 for shaking the opposing QB's hand when losing the Super Bowl!  I'm sure it won't seriously affect the discussion about his probable GOAT status... but still a GOAT should at least not be a whiny bitch, amirite?

In all fairness, perhaps at least in this case he may have simply not been able to find Foles since he is on film shaking some Iggles' hands.  Still, 3 times is 3 times...  Once is a fluke.  Twice is a coincidence.  Three times is a pattern.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 06 February 2018, 14:25:48
Maybe he shook Wentz's hand and didn't realize he hadn't played.  ;)
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Post by: garhkal on 06 February 2018, 16:23:01
My favorite SBLII news story making the rounds is whether or not Tom Brady is a sore loser:  he's now 0 for 3 for shaking the opposing QB's hand when losing the Super Bowl!  I'm sure it won't seriously affect the discussion about his probable GOAT status... but still a GOAT should at least not be a whiny bitch, amirite?

Well if he's 0 for three in shaking hands of losing SB matches then why is he considered a GOAT?
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Post by: monbvol on 06 February 2018, 17:45:58
I wouldn't consider him GOAT for that and other reasons for sure.
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Post by: ColBosch on 06 February 2018, 20:53:28
And not a total blowout, nicely done with keeping the scores from getting too far apart - a lot of 'yeah, we're still in this' from the Patriots, and a really tense fourth as far as the scoring went.

If the Eagles hadn't so heavily covered their end zone for that last Hail Mary, it very well could've been a touchdown, and I wouldn't bet against the Pats being able to make the two-point conversion.

I did read an amusing rant about how overrated Brady is, at least to the rant's author, but I was genuinely impressed with his performance. His attitude seems like it could use work, but he's really a decent ballplayer.
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Post by: monbvol on 06 February 2018, 21:14:38
I have to admit.  Despite all the controversy, rules changes that really favor the passing game, and lack of quality opponents Tom Brady still can throw the ball.

But GOAT?  No, but certainly ground for debate on the matter.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 06 February 2018, 22:06:36
Well, Josh McDaniels just screwed the entire Colts organization. He changed his mind and is staying in Boston. It took him a season and a half to screw the Broncos over and he did the Colts over without even coaching a game.
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Post by: ColBosch on 07 February 2018, 08:50:32
But GOAT?  No, but certainly ground for debate on the matter.

No, I just can't call him that. His stats are solid, but until he can be a better ambassador for the game and his team, he cannot be the "best." We have to remember that football is, ultimately, entertainment; a particularly brutal form of entertainment that cripples some of the people out there trying to entertain us. Brady has to show compassion, humility, and good humor before I will consider him to be GOAT.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 07 February 2018, 09:43:49
Does being in Ted 2 show good humor?
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 07 February 2018, 09:54:25
Well, Josh McDaniels just screwed the entire Colts organization. He changed his mind and is staying in Boston. It took him a season and a half to screw the Broncos over and he did the Colts over without even coaching a game.

The Cowboys lost their assistant defensive coordinator/"passing game" coordinator to be the Colt's defensive coordinator. I wonder what happens to him now that McDaniels has backed out and he's been replaced at his old job.
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Post by: ColBosch on 07 February 2018, 12:57:10
Does being in Ted 2 show good humor?

Nope. Quite the opposite.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 07 February 2018, 13:06:09
Speaking of good humor, I hope I get half of the obituary that this guy (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bevt06_nl4X/?utm_source=ig_embed) did.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 07 February 2018, 18:03:14
Oh hey, Russell Wilson got traded today.
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Post by: monbvol on 07 February 2018, 18:56:09
It leaves me a bit torn.  I want the guy to settle on one sport and focus but I also want to make sure he's getting what he wants because without him Seattle is in huge trouble.
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Post by: Scotty on 07 February 2018, 20:01:26
Oh hey, Russell Wilson got traded today.

Baseball thread's just a few clicks away.
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Post by: Decoy on 07 February 2018, 20:36:00
...we have a baseball thread?
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Post by: Scotty on 07 February 2018, 21:01:32
No.
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Post by: monbvol on 07 February 2018, 22:09:08
But to note doesn't mean a baseball thread isn't a few clicks and keystrokes away.
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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 08 February 2018, 16:10:36
Jason Kelce delivers an epic victory speech while wearing a Mummer's costume... he is a Philly God among mortal men.
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Post by: Sartris on 09 February 2018, 10:20:12
Oh hey, Russell Wilson got traded today.

With that O line i’d play baseball too

Speaking of quarterbacks, who is going to criminally overpay for Cousins now that Garoppolo turned six wins into $28m a year
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Post by: Sharpnel on 09 February 2018, 11:55:15

Speaking of quarterbacks, who is going to criminally overpay for Cousins now that Garoppolo turned six seven wins into $28m a year
Hopefully not the Broncos. Cousins is going to cost about $30M/year and he's not Brees/Rodgers/Brady. He's not that good IMO. I'd rather the Broncos grab one of the Vikings castoffs as bridge QB on a 2-year deal and then draft a rookie QB and give him the tutelage he needs.

A for who signs the Vikes/Jags (if he wants to win now) or Browns/Jets (if he's all about the money)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 February 2018, 12:01:43
I think he could do both with the Jags.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 07 March 2018, 12:14:26
The gun show is closing.

NFL referee Ed Hochuli has retired, the league announced Tuesday, ending a colorful career that made him one of the most recognized game officials in American sports.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2656424928/9828c8d9a74a38628b4dad778727026a_400x400.png)
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Post by: The Eagle on 08 March 2018, 18:06:40
Awww.  I always looked forward to him officiating for some reason.
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Post by: monbvol on 08 March 2018, 22:53:51
Because he was one of the better refs in the game and his name and how fit he was lent to some good memes.  Like his nickname of Ed Hercules.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 March 2018, 09:33:56
It started a new threa (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=60650.0)d for the new season.