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Title: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Sellsword on 03 September 2017, 13:23:16
Does the Dragon II have additional pieces to make a standard dragon?  I thought it did but the IWM website doesn't make it clear
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 03 September 2017, 13:26:04
The one I got did indeed come with the parts to make a Dragon.  You put a different chest piece on, don't put the Arrow IV on, and place the cockpit on a different point.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Domi1981 on 03 September 2017, 13:43:04
The one I got did indeed come with the parts to make a Dragon.  You put a different chest piece on, don't put the Arrow IV on, and place the cockpit on a different point.

If anyone has a picture of that I would be highly obliged
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 03 September 2017, 14:43:09
I assembled mine as a Dragon II, was thinking about magneting it to do a Dragon, but it wouldn't have fit with my legion of metal and plastic OG Dragons.  I might still have the chest piece if people want a photo of it.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Scotty on 03 September 2017, 14:45:55
I haven't purchased one yet, but if I do I'll absolutely be using the Dragon II built as a regular Dragon to represent my Grand Dragons, while the old metal and plastic ones will be just regular Dragons.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Domi1981 on 03 September 2017, 15:27:34
I assembled mine as a Dragon II, was thinking about magneting it to do a Dragon, but it wouldn't have fit with my legion of metal and plastic OG Dragons.  I might still have the chest piece if people want a photo of it.

Yes please. I have only found pictures on the Drag II standard and didn´t even find any information (till I saw this thread) about a possibility to alter the Drag II. Why does IWM not provide proper infos on such facts?!
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Neo-Tanuki on 03 September 2017, 20:49:35
Here's mine done as a standard Dragon:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4397/36323602972_fc25dfbbe3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XkMXEL)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4428/36354222211_042aeb1eae.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XouTGF)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4379/36354222821_d43cfac812.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XouTTc)
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Luciora on 04 September 2017, 01:40:56
Hmm, not bad.   Just can't seem to reconcile it as a Dragon though.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 04 September 2017, 01:43:05
The snoot is a drastic improvement. I may have to get one for experimentation.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 04 September 2017, 03:19:14
Yes please. I have only found pictures on the Drag II standard and didn´t even find any information (till I saw this thread) about a possibility to alter the Drag II. Why does IWM not provide proper infos on such facts?!

I definitely knew about it before I bought the mini,, but it was from one of speck's posts here
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Sartris on 04 September 2017, 09:03:57
I was tempted but I already have five dragons so mind got the II treatment
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Domi1981 on 04 September 2017, 09:33:28
Here's mine done as a standard Dragon:


Wow, that is a game changer for me. So to check this again: the Dragon II comes with this snout? If so I will buy it.

And here the usual shop Info giving nothing about the snout:

https://www.fantasywelt.de/Dark-Age-Dragon-II-Mech-TRO-3145-55-ton

http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=9001
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: GunjiNoKanrei on 04 September 2017, 10:12:52
So to check this again: the Dragon II comes with this snout?
Yes.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Neo-Tanuki on 04 September 2017, 13:36:02
The mini comes with all the parts to make the standard Dragon in my picture.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Domi1981 on 04 September 2017, 16:36:33
Great. And it looks awesome as well. Still wonder why the company that wants to make money doesn´t provide the info that sells the item. ::)
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: ChrystalNiNja88 on 04 September 2017, 17:24:14
 :o
Mind blown.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 04 September 2017, 18:18:27
I wonder if this was intended as an early attempt at the kind of art changes we're getting with the commando, awesome, and catapult, or just a fun extra bonus from Iron Wind Metals.

And actually, I think I'll need two. One for the semi-classic dragon configuration, and one to customize with a five port snoot and a vibroblade...
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: GunjiNoKanrei on 05 September 2017, 07:45:02
or just a fun extra bonus from Iron Wind Metals.
This.

IIRC it was iamclanwolf's idea. He came up with the idea while we were discussing the sculpt in the QCC group, proposed it to behrle (the sculptor) and behrle (and IWM) delivered  8)
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 05 September 2017, 09:46:41
I found this as well when I got my Dragon II- it had a part that didn't fit the artwork, and also seemed like it was missing something as well. I was right- it was missing the thigh sprue! I assembled the rest of the mini (as a Dragon II), placed the torso/arm assembly on top of the foot/shin assemblies, and put a sticky note on a popsicle stick to make a sign asking Melissa at IWM to 'PLZ SEND LEGS FOR OL' STUMPY'.

She did indeed- along with a second Dragon II! So naturally the second one became a standard Dragon. It's a hell of a lot bigger than the original Dragon mini, obviously, but it's a great mini- big fan of it, considering getting another one in fact. I highly suggest it.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Domi1981 on 05 September 2017, 11:34:38

IIRC it was iamclanwolf's idea.

I know why I love this guy.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: speck on 06 September 2017, 20:59:33
Yeah I sorta of forgot about that part. Need to dig up another unassembled one that I have to check it out.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: IAMCLANWOLF on 07 September 2017, 15:45:07
Heh... thanks for the props, Gunji.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: TigerShark on 07 September 2017, 17:01:41
This model and the MWO "sculpts" are far better than the originals, IMO. They look more like something that would actually exist.

EDIT: 3rd Benjamin Regulars scheme?
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Neo-Tanuki on 08 September 2017, 12:00:52
@TigerShark: If you are asking about my color scheme-definitely inspired by the Benjamin Regulars, but I didn't stick completely to canon patterns-I just really liked the bold red stripes on white. :)
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: sadlerbw on 11 September 2017, 10:42:17
Just wanted to chime in and say: this thread made me go back and take a look at the Dragon II I put together a couple months back...Sure enough, I just slapped on as many parts as I could get to fit, and had both the original Dragon snout and the Dragon II missile pack on the back! I was able to pop the missile pack off without too much trouble (tried the 'snout' but that sucker was really on there!) That's what I get for assuming I know what each mech is supposed to look like without consulting a TRO or anything!

It's the same reason I've got a Warhawk with the missile pack on the wrong shoulder and a Dart whose arms are swapped. I just get excited and start gluing on anything I can!
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 11 September 2017, 11:08:36
Just wanted to chime in and say: this thread made me go back and take a look at the Dragon II I put together a couple months back...Sure enough, I just slapped on as many parts as I could get to fit, and had both the original Dragon snout and the Dragon II missile pack on the back! I was able to pop the missile pack off without too much trouble (tried the 'snout' but that sucker was really on there!) That's what I get for assuming I know what each mech is supposed to look like without consulting a TRO or anything!

It's the same reason I've got a Warhawk with the missile pack on the wrong shoulder and a Dart whose arms are swapped. I just get excited and start gluing on anything I can!

It happens. I've seen a few people post backwards-legged Cestus and Stalker minis, and even the Fafnir on a couple of occasions. I did it with, of all things, a Phoenix Hawk (reseen), got it all painted and done before realizing something was wrong.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: sadlerbw on 11 September 2017, 15:29:34
Yeah, we won't even mention the number of Dragonflys, Stormcrows, and Novas I've made with their feet backwards!
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 11 September 2017, 17:07:36
It happens. I've seen a few people post backwards-legged Cestus and Stalker minis, and even the Fafnir on a couple of occasions. I did it with, of all things, a Phoenix Hawk (reseen), got it all painted and done before realizing something was wrong.

Sagittaire, though if anybody asks, I did it because it looks better and not because I didn't check the art.  ;D
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Phobos101 on 28 September 2017, 03:32:42
Yeah, we won't even mention the number of Dragonflys, Stormcrows, and Novas I've made with their feet backwards!

Yeeeaaah, I screwed up my first Nova, but figured it out because I had a really clear mental picture of the Stormcrow's feet in my mind - probably thanks to Mechwarrior 2. Luckily I got to it before painting, and persuaded the glue to give up it's grip.
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: klarg1 on 28 September 2017, 11:26:36
In fairness, the leg assembly from the Viper/Stormcrow is kinda goofy. I can understand why somebody would assume they fit on the other way around. (The feet are pretty giant, relative to the bodies too.)
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Luciora on 19 October 2017, 04:03:27
Just ordered and assembled the Dragon II and the Dragon.  Not as bad as I expected, and because I thought it'd be a neat idea might buy a third, and put the snout and Arrow on.   With clan tech, you can have everything you see.   Arrow, LRMS, ER PPC and the arm laser. 
Title: Re: Dragon II & Dragon?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 11 June 2018, 09:15:54
I just figure something out: it looks really close to the mechwarrior: mercenaries version, which I kind of liked.  Local shop has one, might pick it up.