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Title: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Althalus on 04 October 2018, 14:44:52
Hi together,

I want to build a confidence trickster but... I'm totally confused that skills i 'must have' and the appropriate Attributes to it.
Things i want to have is Patient and Fast Learner i would preffer a character from House Steiner.

Thanks in advance for the help. :)

PS: I forgot, standard 5k Starting AP. Age I would prefer not older then 35.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 04 October 2018, 17:22:47
I might have time this weekend... what era are you looking at?  I'm mostly focused around 3025...
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Althalus on 05 October 2018, 03:03:34
Thanks for you taking Time. :)

We are at Solaris7 at the moment, thats why i want MechWarrior Skills Cappable so roundabout 3.

If you know the Series White Collar... the good looking trickster (Neal Caffrey) it is who i want to play. :)


Edit 1: If you don´t know this Series here is the Wiki Link so you may get a concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Collar_(TV_series)
Edit 2: I forgot to say the Campaign Date, we playing in 3042.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 05 October 2018, 04:32:42
It sounds like you want Acting, Protocol, Negotiation, and Streetwise as a baseline.  Do you have Excel?  If not, I can copy and paste from my spreadsheet into text here...
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Althalus on 05 October 2018, 04:43:24
I have Excel, using the "AToW Character Creator v7" from the Forum here.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: guardiandashi on 05 October 2018, 10:02:51
It sounds like you want Acting, Protocol, Negotiation, and Streetwise as a baseline.  Do you have Excel?  If not, I can copy and paste from my spreadsheet into text here...
for attributes I would say that you would definitely want int and cha up there with CHA as essentially your "main stat"

the question is do you want to try to stack the traits that will improve the char (but make them more of a 1 trick ) or not, because I would look at attractive and gregarious.

so steiner
primary language German,
secondary languages, English, Italian, scots Gaelic, Swedish

you will want to look at the affiliation info on pg56 ATOW
any of the provinces would work, but they all have slightly different effects.

pg 65, 66  pick an early childhood if using modules
then continue working through.  although point buy may be easier, going through the modules builds a more rounded char IMO and helps come up with background hooks.

modules end on pg 81

if you want to be a MechWarrior you want the MechWarrior field skills at some point

you might also look at the character archetypes pg 94-101 ish for inspiration
traits start on 107 more or less

for a social focused character gregarious and attractive would help, but may not totally fit the concept.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Althalus on 05 October 2018, 14:49:03
Hi guardiandaishi,

that are good points. :)
I don´t want more then attractive, together with gregarious i think it is too much.

I created now 4 other characters bit I´m every time totaly unhappy. :/ Don´t know exactly why.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 05 October 2018, 16:13:10
Attractive, but not Gregarious... check.  I'm fairly certain I can work with that.  By tomorrow, if not tonight.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: guardiandashi on 05 October 2018, 16:32:52
just saying you could go either way, the gregarious is basically you are everyones friend, attractive is kind of that but has a more focused aspect.

I have a few errands to do, but I will come back and throw something together mm in a couple hours or so.

I will do a life path walk through.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 05 October 2018, 19:01:08
Module-wise, I'm thinking:
White Collar (who then fell on hard times, leading to...)
Street
Solaris Internship
Solaris Insider
and if you're thinking of a slightly older character, Solaris Games too

Being older gets you more XP.  And I have to say, I don't think Gregarious would necessarily be over the top.  Attractive has pretty narrow applicability, so the potential synergy is also limited.  Gregarious really fits your concept, I think.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: guardiandashi on 05 October 2018, 23:01:26
well crud my pc crashed and I lost everything I had done,
Module wise I was going:
Steiner, Donegal Provence
white collar
high school
and then I hadn't totally decided
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 06 October 2018, 04:54:24
Donegal's a little far from Solaris... I was thinking more Isle of Skye, which also helpfully gives a boost to Streetwise.  The Reputation hit is easy enough to buy off.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 06 October 2018, 05:53:26
Here's the first draft.  There are 400 XP left to buy additional skills or traits (or buy down the negatives).  Strangely enough, Solaris seems to attract organized crime like crazy...
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Althalus on 07 October 2018, 12:35:00
Really interessting. :) Thank you for the sheet.
Now taking it to the other sheet and then thinking about the free XP. :)

Solaris is a big black hole for organized crime. :) So much possibilities to make Money.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 07 October 2018, 13:37:20
You're quite welcome!  If you have any questions, just let me know.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: guardiandashi on 07 October 2018, 22:21:54
   req            totals               
STR                125         base                                     -850   
BOD     4+   400   275   steiner                                     -150   
DEX     4+   400   300   Donegal Province      
RFL      4+   400   250   white collar                          -170   
INT      4+   400   100   High School                         -400   
WIL     5+   500   250   intelligence Operative training   -760   
CHA   200                    basic training field                  -120   1y
EDG   100                    covert operations field              -168   1y
                       special forces field              -144   2y
                                        Family Training                         -570   
                       basic training field              -120   .5y
Traits                       mechwarior field              -120   1.5y
equipped               225               
extra income               100      remaining   253   
wealth                          300               
glass jaw              -150         
compulsion greedy   -75         
connections 2+    270         
reputation              0         
enemy                         -100         
alternate ID               50         field cost 30 per skill -6 per skill
in for life            -300         
rank                       350         


Skills   
language affiliation   35
Language English   20
Perception              40
Negotiation              25
Apprasial              20
protocol Lyran              70
Art any                         10
interest any              50
Computers              40
interest any              35
streetwise /lyran   20
swimming              20
acting                         50
career soldier              60
martial arts              60
medtech / general   60
navigation ground   60
small arms              90
escape artist              30
language any              30
protocol any              30
streetwise / any   30
tracking / any              60
acrobatics /free fall   30
Demolitions              30
Stealth                         30
survival / any              50
Driving any              15
interest homeworld history   20
Gunnery mech              30
Piloting Mech              30
Sensor operations   30
Tactics Land              30
Technician / any   30


flex XP plus remaining 703
note this does not include any optimization, or the 500 XP of additional optional negative traits
plus I didn't take any stage 4, life path, ageing (char should be 22) or work out final values its just the raw XP from running through the life paths, and fields.

so technically the char is ~80-90% done minus equipment

attached my improvised excel spreadsheet
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 07 October 2018, 22:46:00
Code tags might make that a little more readable.  Is it just me, or is that a 2 CHA?
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: guardiandashi on 08 October 2018, 01:14:23
currently it is a 2, note there was 700 -1200 more XP that could be spent so it would be quite easy to bring it up to a 5-7 range.

with that said I also didn't allocate the XP for fast learner.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Daryk on 08 October 2018, 05:56:37
Ah, right... My sheet does the optimization and Fast Learner pieces, though I wouldn't necessarily say "automatically".
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Althalus on 08 October 2018, 07:01:28
the suggestion from guardiandaishi is really good. basicly the covert operation set in it is loveable.

in the sheet i use fastlearner is calculated automaticly, thats why i use it. i hate it to calculate all things with hands. even more when a sheet is out and have all the things. but i´m really lazy with something like that in character creation. at the moment i´m scripting a framework for GM Forge (Virtual Tabletop).
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: guardiandashi on 08 October 2018, 11:32:10
there are other ways to get to where I ended up, for instance instead of high school, you could sub in prep school or similar.

the thing is the way I was thinking is more or less, random middle class person, got recruited out of high school, for say loki, or heimdal (steiner intelligence agencies) and then stuff happened.

the "family training" kind of reflects, that while the character is MechWarrior trained, the agency did it more with the idea of additional cover opportunities, not with the intent that the agent would ever actually really fight professionally.

I will admit I am not familiar with the show white collar, so I was thinking/channeling templeton Peck (Face man) from the A team show, and also somewhat Michael Weston, from Burn Notice.
Title: Re: Help for Generating a confidence trickster?
Post by: Althalus on 08 October 2018, 12:07:10
I can´t Imagine that you don´t know the show. :) Just because of that you are right in the thinking.
I´m now looking forward to play with him. :)