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Round 1 2015 Fan Finance Poll

Flashman resculpt TRO 3025 (revised) /3039 / 3050U
24 (5.3%)
Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
41 (9%)
Templar III Prime TRO 3145FS
18 (4%)
Primitive Griffin GRF-1A XTRO Primitives IV
26 (5.7%)
Black Knight “Red Reaper” XTRO Most Wanted
26 (5.7%)
Kheper KHP-7R TRO 3145RS
11 (2.4%)
Dragoon AEM-01 H:LoT2
20 (4.4%)
Blood Kite (Standard)  TRO 3067
23 (5.1%)
Gunslinger GUN-1ERD resculpt TRO 3055U
19 (4.2%)
Bellerophon BEL-1 X XTRO Primitives III
7 (1.5%)
Swordsman SWD-1 XTRO Primitives IV
16 (3.5%)
Imp IMP-1A resculpt HistOK
10 (2.2%)
Centurion CN11-O Prime TRO 3145FS
13 (2.9%)
HawkWolf HWK-4F TRO 3145ME
13 (2.9%)
Sokar Urban Combat Tank TRO Prototypes
1 (0.2%)
Centurion CN9-D resculpt TRO 3050U
9 (2%)
Armored Personnel Carriers (Tracked, Wheeled, Hover) TRO 3039
26 (5.7%)
Hephaestus Jump Tank TRO Prototypes
7 (1.5%)
Primitive Dervish DV-1S XTRO Primitives III
9 (2%)
Gossamer VTOL TRO 3145ME
11 (2.4%)
Gauntlet GTL-1O Prime TROLC
9 (2%)
Saracen Mk II HCV TRO 3145DC
3 (0.7%)
Vector Combat Support VTOL H:LoT2
4 (0.9%)
Ursus II TRO 3085
6 (1.3%)
Kamakiri Attack VTOL TRO 3145DC
9 (2%)
Super-Wasp WSP-2A-X XTRO Succession Wars I
15 (3.3%)
Highlander HGN-732 resculpt TRO 3050U
25 (5.5%)
Goblin Medium Tank TRO 3039
8 (1.8%)
Teppō Artillery Vehicle TRO 3085S
3 (0.7%)
Patron Loadermech / MilitiaMech / PatrolMech TRO 3075 / XTRO Retro / TRO Prototypes
12 (2.6%)
Schildkröte Line Tank TRO 3145LC
7 (1.5%)
Tufana Hovercraft TRO 3085
6 (1.3%)
Anubis ABS-5Y TRO 3145CC
7 (1.5%)
Myrmidon Medium Tank (Anti-Infantry) TRO Prototypes
0 (0%)
Celerity CLR-03-O Prime TRO 3145RS
11 (2.4%)

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #30 on: 26 January 2015, 15:07:45 »
All the people yelling out for 3145 'Mechs dumbfounded me.  Those are the things IWM is absolutely most likely to do!

Makes for a compelling argument for 3145 vehicles, though. At the current rate, there are 4-5+ 'Mechs being made for every vehicle. If we want balanced 3145 forces, fan financing seems to be the way to go...
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #31 on: 26 January 2015, 16:01:17 »
So only units that aren't in traditional paper Technical Readouts? I have no objection with such a rule when it concerns Mechs or Vehicles, but Aerotech units are also going to need Fan Financing (I believe).
Not so much a rule, but I just focused my own votes on things I thought were least likely to see general distribution.  IMO Mechs form TRO:3085 and TRO:3145 are more than likely to get done by IWM at some point so why waste "Fan Financing" on them?   8)
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #32 on: 26 January 2015, 17:20:33 »
Wouldn't you rather see stuff like that Red Reaper in standard distribution?  All the people yelling out for 3145 'Mechs dumbfounded me.  Those are the things IWM is absolutely most likely to do!

We already know what IWM is planing to release up to the 4th quarter, and if that mech or vehicle you really want a sculpt of isn't on that list, it could be a long time before IWM gets around to making a sculpt of it. I don't fault anyone who suggested something from 3145 because there are so many popular choices from that era that IWM will have 3 to 4 years or more of releases based on the current release schedule of a hand full of sculpts per quarter. As was mentioned earlier, If IWM already had something on the "to do list", then Speck wouldn't have put it on the poll. I think it's interesting to see how the voting is playing out. I never expected the APC's to be doing so well given we already have a set of APC's. I hope the next round will open up the option of B/A.
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #33 on: 26 January 2015, 17:26:46 »
My logic, both in voting and in the earlier idea thread, was to not choose something that IWM is likely to produce on their own.  This project should be for the more obscure, rare things, not the extremely popular stuff.  Wouldn't you rather see stuff like that Red Reaper in standard distribution?  All the people yelling out for 3145 'Mechs dumbfounded me.  Those are the things IWM is absolutely most likely to do!

Not necessarily. The mech that I want produced from the 3145 line is the Celerity. A 15 ton mech that more a protomech then a traditional mech. IWM tends to focus on vehicles and mechs rather then protomechs. In fact there are several protomechs that were never produced. So I see nothing in choosing a mech that is likely be lumped with the protomechs.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #34 on: 27 January 2015, 02:50:14 »
Flashman, bloodkite and Belleraphone.
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #35 on: 27 January 2015, 08:44:05 »
We already know what IWM is planing to release up to the 4th quarter, and if that mech or vehicle you really want a sculpt of isn't on that list, it could be a long time before IWM gets around to making a sculpt of it.
Not quite true. We know what IWM is going to make for general release through the 4th quarter but we do not know all of the web exclusives.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #36 on: 27 January 2015, 09:22:31 »
My thought, and it looks like I am not in the majority is to make things that we do not have before we do re-sculpts. But that is part of the joy of us all having our own way of doing things.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #37 on: 27 January 2015, 10:00:54 »
Bloodkite, Imp, Centurion resculpt.

Nice to see so much LoT:2 stuff, maybe we get the Pollux as an option next time?

Disappointed that ASF were not even mentioned as a maybe-option though.

The Celerity being on there makes sense to me, but I think too much 3145 stuff would be counter-productive. It's already been well-stated that the focus going forward in all products will be the dark age. Thankfully I don't hear too much noise about advancing the timeline further as-yet, but 3145 is the main effort going forward for now.

I think if anything from the dark age is to be made with fan-finance, it should be a definite fringe item or oddball, pretty much every mech from DA that there is a TRO of, I can see getting a mini in the next few years.
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #38 on: 27 January 2015, 10:36:54 »
After thinking about this (an Jal Phoenix's statement) I think this whole thing should have centered on "catch up" work, rather than allowing stuff from the 3085-Up to be considered, and especially re-sculpt items.

There are so many units that are in previous books, especially vehicles, that still need a sculpt for which we've been waiting years (sometimes decades)...yet the votes that are high up are re-sculpts & newer released designs that were recently released.

I'm not saying there's any fault here, just that in retrospect, I think perhaps this opportunity would have been best spent on catch up work. No new sculpts, no re-sculpts, no variants...just catch up.
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #39 on: 27 January 2015, 10:54:24 »
But look at it this way, popular items have the most potential of actually being (fan) funded. Whether it is a recent 3145 Mech which otherwise would only get sculpted in 3+ years, or a resculpt of a Mech that didn't stand the test of time too well, or ...

While a noble idea, limiting the fan funding effort to catch-up items only may not have the impact we all hope the renewed fan funding effort will have. Maybe there are reasons why certain items haven't ever gotten a mini ... ;)

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #40 on: 27 January 2015, 11:52:39 »
Some of these options, like the black knight should be con exclusives IMO

If the gauntlet and centurion Omni make it, they should have parts come with the kit to make the bushwhacker ad axe and shild variants respectively
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #41 on: 27 January 2015, 13:37:20 »
Some of these options, like the black knight should be con exclusives IMO
I'm of mixed opinion on the whole idea of Con Exclusives.  I know they make a nice bonus for con goers and can help build excitment at events, but by their nature they mean that many (most) players of the game can't get them, except perhaps for inflated prices from people who buy them at cons only to sell for a profit. 

I don't mind alternate poses, jumping poses, minor varients, prerelease minis, etc.  Whole new mechs or major varients, like the Red Reaper, not so much.   :(
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #42 on: 27 January 2015, 13:48:32 »
Some of these options, like the black knight should be con exclusives IMO

If the gauntlet and centurion Omni make it, they should have parts come with the kit to make the bushwhacker ad axe and shild variants respectively

I for one am very much against exclusives in any form, I feel that they take away from any thing that they are a part of.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #43 on: 27 January 2015, 14:45:32 »
Has anyone suggested the Von Rohrs for your next poll? A Von Rohrs mini could be really cool!
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #44 on: 27 January 2015, 14:46:07 »
While a noble idea, limiting the fan funding effort to catch-up items only may not have the impact we all hope the renewed fan funding effort will have. Maybe there are reasons why certain items haven't ever gotten a mini ... ;)

Good point!
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #45 on: 27 January 2015, 14:47:58 »
Has anyone suggested the Von Rohrs for your next poll? A Von Rohrs mini could be really cool!

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #46 on: 27 January 2015, 14:52:16 »
And just how many con exclusives have we actually had at this point in time? I think we have two con exclusives. The rest that were (past tense) con exclusives are all sitting on IWM's web store. Only the last year (maybe two depending upon when you are asking) is not available but will be in the future.

To the old stuff only, I will point out that not only do we need to have people vote for it, but you need to have people pony up the money to pay for the sculpting. On top of that you need it to be popular enough that it is worth it for IWM to even offer for sale. We could have a situtation where 12 want a mini and it wins the poll. Only 6 people provide money for the sculpt and then it only sells 15 copies in the first 2 or 3 years. Stuff from newer TROs will probably sell better than niche units from a 3 year old sourcebook.

Many different factors at play and no completely right answer. Best to vote what you are interested in. Personally I am treating this like the archive return: I'm only voting for something that I will personally put money toward/purchase. No reason to skew the results if you aren't going to put the money down.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #47 on: 27 January 2015, 15:17:59 »
I for one am very much against exclusives in any form, I feel that they take away from any thing that they are a part of.

The only true con exclusive are the Limited Edition mechs that take longer to become available for a limited time on IWM webstore. All the other items have become available to order after several weeks on IWM web store.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #48 on: 27 January 2015, 15:20:17 »
Bloodkite, Highlander and Super-Wasp. Super-Griffin needs Super-Wasp like Reeces peanut butter need chocolate cups to hold it in!

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #49 on: 27 January 2015, 15:27:39 »
I have voted, and I hereby pledge that if one, two or all three of my choices are picked, I will definitely put some cash towards them.  It might not be much, but I'm fully prepared to put my money where my mouth is on this one.
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #50 on: 27 January 2015, 16:50:49 »
The only true con exclusive are the Limited Edition mechs that take longer to become available for a limited time on IWM webstore. All the other items have become available to order after several weeks on IWM web store.
I was under the impression that there was a warship from the AeroTech line that was offered as a con exclusive but was never released through retail or the online store?  I could be wrong as I don't play AeroTech so this is just something I heard from another player who wanted one.

That said, if its eventually released to general distribution (through retail or online) then its not really a con exclusive (at least in the meaning of the word I meant).  Giving con goers a chance to pick pre-release specials is something else altogether and I've got no problem with that. 

To the old stuff only, I will point out that not only do we need to have people vote for it, but you need to have people pony up the money to pay for the sculpting. On top of that you need it to be popular enough that it is worth it for IWM to even offer for sale. We could have a situtation where 12 want a mini and it wins the poll. Only 6 people provide money for the sculpt and then it only sells 15 copies in the first 2 or 3 years. Stuff from newer TROs will probably sell better than niche units from a 3 year old sourcebook.
I have to agree, here.  It does no good to run KS for things people won't buy, or won't buy enough of.  While going back and doing "missing" mechs and vees from old TROs is appealing to the completist in me, if there was a real demand for something in a TRO from 20 years ago, I have to think that IWM would have released it by now.   

Everything I suggested or voted for, I will definitely be buying at least one (often more) when and if I have the chance and once I commit to it I will pay for it.   
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #51 on: 27 January 2015, 16:59:21 »
The Leviathan is the exclusive (it wasn't even for a con) that had the mold destroyed.

My take is that the 3145 'Mechs are going to be done.  Well, hopefully.  Doing the Gauntlet as an online-only exclusive would have me afraid it would be trapped there and not put out for general distribution.  The 3145 Vehicles and BA are a different beast entirely though.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #52 on: 27 January 2015, 17:58:04 »
Just one thing, Speck - IIRC, Sawbones stated that the Sokar was funded under FF1.0?
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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #53 on: 27 January 2015, 18:13:30 »
Just one thing, Speck - IIRC, Sawbones stated that the Sokar was funded under FF1.0?

Just searched the old Fan Finance forum and it was only in one post that he said he was planning to, but nothing that confirmed he did. Was not on any of the list he did for items that where on the backlog. Will have to reach out to him to find out if it was actually funded.

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« Reply #54 on: 27 January 2015, 18:19:15 »
I was under the impression that there was a warship from the AeroTech line that was offered as a con exclusive but was never released through retail or the online store?  I could be wrong as I don't play AeroTech so this is just something I heard from another player who wanted one.

The original Leviethan was a prize for a Aerotech event run by demo team in 2003. each agent got two, one for winner and one for them. It was intended to be a prize only and not for sale. So it was the very first Limited Edition and also to have its mold destroyed.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #55 on: 27 January 2015, 20:42:41 »
Blood Kite, fellow Blood Spirits we need more votes!

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« Reply #56 on: 28 January 2015, 01:30:34 »
OK, I have to say something about the APC's here, just to be clear.  These are three different designs, not one hull with three different propulsion units like the Heavy APC's I did all those years ago.  They will be priced as separate sculpts not one price for all three.
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« Reply #57 on: 28 January 2015, 02:20:16 »
OK, I have to say something about the APC's here, just to be clear.  These are three different designs, not one hull with three different propulsion units like the Heavy APC's I did all those years ago.  They will be priced as separate sculpts not one price for all three.

Yeah, but/and they are tiny - half the size of those Heavy APCs. Move over, Savannah Master, the new Cute is in town.  {>{>
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« Reply #58 on: 28 January 2015, 07:33:40 »
OK, I have to say something about the APC's here, just to be clear.  These are three different designs, not one hull with three different propulsion units like the Heavy APC's I did all those years ago.  They will be priced as separate sculpts not one price for all three.

I figured if it was in the top 6 we would have to figure that out.

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Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Fan Finance Poll
« Reply #59 on: 28 January 2015, 09:30:32 »
The only true con exclusive are the Limited Edition mechs that take longer to become available for a limited time on IWM webstore. All the other items have become available to order after several weeks on IWM web store.

I have no issue with this, as you can get them just have to watch and get them when they are out. Verses only being able to get it if you can go to the convention or what not that it is at, and there are lots of us who can not make them. So I appreciate how IWM does this, I also like how they give the stores first chance to sell before putting it on the on line store.

 

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