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Cannonshop

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bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« on: 06 February 2019, 08:55:48 »
Design three things:

a Tank

a VTOL

another combat vehicle.

what you have to work with:

The Tank can be between 30 and 55 tons, may be tracked or wheeled, but not hover.  must include at least 2 machine guns and one additional weapon, may not include CASE, and may be powered by ICE or Fuel Cell, but not fusion.

the VTOL

May be between 15 and 25 tons.  Must include one long-range weapon, but must also include a secondary weapon with short range (for designs over 20 tons).  Must be able to survive a 1 level fall or 'crash' on the hull.  May not be fusion powered or have XL or XXL fusion power, and must include at least one weapon designed after 3067.

"bang for the buck":  both vehicles must have some aspect that stands out-whether speed, or armor, or weapons load.  Armor is restricted to stock Ferro fibrous or Standard armor (for cost reasons). 

Aim for satisfying two thirds of the golden triad: armor, speed, or firepower.  It must stand out compared to book vees, but it must have one obvious design flaw, aka if it's fast and well armored, anemic weapons, if it's got great firepower and speed, crap armor, if it's got weapons and armor that are exceptional, it is 'a bit slow' (literally).

Imagine these as "also rans" for a procurement contract, which lost, but 'coulda been a contendah' if the designers/engineers had spent just a LITTLE more time (or had a little better budget).
I beats the Urbie to death with my CHARGER!!!

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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #1 on: 06 February 2019, 13:23:38 »
It's slow but pks a big gun and a crap ton of armor.

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Tortoise

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,367,969 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,075

Power Plant:  145 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Gauss Rifle
    1  LRM-5
    3  Machine Guns
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                5.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                145                      10.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 224                 12.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     59       
                                          Left/Right   40/40       
                                              Turret     50       
                                                Rear     35       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Machine Guns                               FR        0         2         1.00
LRM-5                                        FR        2         1         2.00
Gauss Rifle                                  T         1         1        15.00
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@Gauss Rifle (16)                            BD        -         0         2.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 11
3w         2       2       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/2)

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Tai-i Shizuko Lofgren, Third Infantry Company, Oniwaka

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Ruger

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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #2 on: 06 February 2019, 19:40:32 »
Not the strongest weapons load, or the fastest thing out there, but generally decently well-rounded, and enough ammo to allow for specialty munitions...

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Valor Medium Tank

Mass: 50 tons
Internal Structure: 5 tons
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell - 15 tons
Cruise MP: 5
Flank MP: 8
Control Equipment: 2.5 tons
Turret: 1 ton
Armor Factor: 152 - 8.5 tons (Ferro)
Front: 36
Turret: 36
Sides: 30/30
Rear: 20
Weapons:
Light AC/5 - Turret - 5 tons
MML-5 - Turret - 3 tons
2 Machine Guns - Turret - 1 ton
MML-5 - Front - 3 tons
Machine Gun - Front - 0.5 tons
Ammo(LAC)40 - Body - 2 tons
Ammo(MML)72/60 - Body - 3 tons
Ammo(MG)100 - Body - 0.5 tons

Edit: And for the VTOL entry:

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Raptor VTOL

Mass: 25 tons
Internal Structure: 2.5 tons
Engine: 110 Fuel Cell - 4.5 tons
Cruise MP: 10
Flank MP: 15
Control Equipment: 2.5 tons
Rotors: 1.5 tons
Armor Factor: 71 - 4 tons (ferro)
Front: 25
Sides: 16/16
Rear: 12
Rotors: 2
Weapons:
Light AC/2 - Front - 4 tons
2 x MML-3 - Front - 3 tons
Ammo(LAC)45 - Body - 1 ton
Ammo(MML)80/66 - Body - 2 tons

Ruger
« Last Edit: 06 February 2019, 20:06:05 by Ruger »
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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #3 on: 06 February 2019, 20:33:14 »
Here's a VTOL

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Eisenbiene

Mass: 22 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 791,873 C-Bills
Battle Value: 484

Power Plant:  60 Fuel Cell Engine
Cruise Speed: 97.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Light AC/2
    4  Rocket Launcher 10s
    1  ER Small Laser
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      15 points                2.50
Engine:             Fuel-Cell Engine              60                       2.00
    Cruise MP:  9
    Flank MP:   14
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             2                         1.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            2.50
Power Amplifiers:                                                          0.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  62                  3.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     20       
                                          Left/Right   14/14       
                                                Rear     12       
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 Rocket Launcher 10s                        FR        12        4         2.00
Light AC/2                                   FR        1         1         4.00
ER Small Laser                               FR        2         1         0.50
@LAC/2 (AP) (22)                             BD        -         0         1.00
@LAC/2 (Precision) (22)                      BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 5
9v         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE

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Tai-i Shizuko Lofgren, Third Infantry Company, Oniwaka

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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #4 on: 06 February 2019, 21:28:27 »
Made this one a while ago, an early star league design intended for infantry support.


Matilda Infantry Tank

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,038,750 C-Bills
Battle Value: 818

Power Plant:  150 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/5
    1  SRM-6
    2  Machine Guns
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      25 points                5.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                150                      11.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 215                 13.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     43       
                                          Left/Right   43/43       
                                              Turret     43       
                                                Rear     43       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
2 Machine Guns                               T         0         2         1.00
SRM-6                                        T         4         1         3.00
@AC/5 (40)                                   BD        -         0         2.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@SRM-6 (30)                                  BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 8
3t         2       2       1       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/1)
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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #5 on: 08 February 2019, 06:04:52 »
Straight from the lab 3 actually good vehicles with obvious design flaws

First up the Guardian Tank.  This light tank (30T) is built with defence in mind - the LB-5X weapon system allows this a militia to seed a web of highly effective air defence far and wide on a budget.  With space for slug rounds as well as cluster and a coaxial and forward mounted machine guns this little protector will not make itself easy for any opposition to clear away and the extremely heavy (for it's size) armour (able to withstand the heaviest autocannon rounds) leaves the guardian able to punch far above it's weight. 

The poor speed on the Guardian leaves it as a "semi mobile" defence unit so it has been given a trailer hitch allowing it to tow a trailer support unit, such as the Carrion MK11 Arrow IV Trailer into position in advance.  Prepared defences overlaying TAG equipped, concealed Infantry, Guardians, Minefields and MK11 trailers can be very tough to crack for even elite assault regiments

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Guardian GRD-5X

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 643,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 455

Power Plant:  90 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  LB 5-X AC
    2  Machine Guns
    1 Unknown Hitch
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      15 points                3.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                 90                       6.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 112                  7.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     28       
                                          Left/Right   22/22       
                                              Turret     22       
                                                Rear     18       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
Hitch                                        RR        -         1         0.00
LB 5-X AC                                    T         1         1         8.00
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
@LB 5-X (Cluster) (20)                       BD        -         0         1.00
@LB 5-X (Slug) (20)                          BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 5
3t         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1)



Next up, the ultra light "Gonzales" utility combat helicopter.  This very light weight VTOL is a boon to any combat engineering unit and occasionally used by other combat units. The incredibly high speed of the Gonzales is it's armour, which is just as well as it barely has any other armour.  The front armour can stop a medium laser hit but it's the only facing that can.  However this has been considered acceptable as the Gonzales should not be in a position to receive fire.  A small (1T) infantry bay allows the Gonzales to be used to ferry small teams of specialists around at great speed.  The twin LRM launchers are often loaded with mine laying, mine clearing or smoke ammunition allowing this unit to shape the battlefield from relative safety

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Gonzales GON-1

Mass: 15 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 378,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 375

Power Plant:  100 Fuel Cell Engine
Cruise Speed: 140.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 216.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  LRM-5s
    1  Infantry Bay (1.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      12 points                1.50
Engine:             Fuel-Cell Engine             100                       4.00
    Cruise MP:  13
    Flank MP:   20
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             1                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            1.50
Turret:                                                                    0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  16                  1.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     5         
                                          Left/Right    3/3         
                                              Turret     0         
                                                Rear     3         
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 LRM-5s                                     FR        4         2         4.00
Infantry Bay (1.0 tons)                      BD        0         1         1.00
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      1    Points: 4
13v        1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(), IF 1


A little confused as you wanted 3 vehicles but only gave design information out on 2 I have simply built a 3rd vehicle sharing some of the common restrictions

Finally, the WRECKER an unpleasant sub-urban combat specialist.  It is important that those people purchasing WRECKERs do not deploy them in places where they are concerned about collateral damage as these machines are built to level buildings.  The namesake wrecking ball obviously does the job from up close but for units in a hurry the Long Tom Artillery Cannon mounted on the front of this beast delivers just about the biggest direct fire hit money can buy on such a small machine.  Battle Armour especially is rightly terrified of Wreckers as that Long Tom Artillery Cannon can annhilate BA units en-masse and worries little about how fast, nimble or stealthy they are.

While the Long Tom Cannon can provide defensive fire much closer and more accurately than a full Long Tom Artillery piece the Wrecker is still designed with the assumption that enemy troops will try to get under the gun into the eye of the storm.  While that has the added bonus of bringing them in reach of the Wrecking Ball first they have to run the gauntlet of Machine Guns (hull mounted on all 4 sides) and Vehicular Grenade Launchers (also hull mounted on all 4 sides).  Should they make it through that there's still a decently thick armoured shell to cut through.

Designed as an infantry support vehicle the Wrecker is not built for speed but it doesn't want to get too far from it's support anyway, it just wants to roll slowly forward wrecking whatever is in front of it.

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Wrecker WRK-1

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-F-F-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,745,208 C-Bills
Battle Value: 769

Power Plant:  80 Fuel Cell Engine
Cruise Speed: 21.6 km/h
Flanking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Long Tom Art. Cannon
    4  Vehicular Grenade Launchers
    1  Wrecking Ball
    4  Machine Guns
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      25 points                5.00
Engine:             Fuel-Cell Engine              80                       3.00
    Cruise MP:  2
    Flank MP:   3
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             1                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    0.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 152                  8.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     37       
                                          Left/Right   30/30       
                                              Turret     30       
                                                Rear     25       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
Long Tom Art. Cannon                         FR        20        1        20.00
(F) Vehicular Grenade Launcher               FR        -         1         0.50
Machine Gun                                  LS        0         1         0.50
(F) Vehicular Grenade Launcher               LS        -         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
(F) Vehicular Grenade Launcher               RR        -         1         0.50
Machine Gun                                  RS        0         1         0.50
(F) Vehicular Grenade Launcher               RS        -         1         0.50
Wrecking Ball                                T         -         0         4.00
@Long Tom Cannon (10)                        BD        -         0         2.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 8
2w         2       2       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ARTLTC, MEL, EE, TUR()


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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #6 on: 09 February 2019, 11:01:09 »
Thought I'd give my ideas for this little challenge.   First is a small fire-support VTOL, the Chapman.    Fast, decent punch, light armor.

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Chapman Light VTOL

Mass: 15 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 560,250 C-Bills
Battle Value: 385

Power Plant: Michaelson GemCel 85 Fuel Cell Engine
Cruise Speed: 129.6 km/h
Flanking Speed: 194.4 km/h
Armor: Victrix Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1 Holly LRM-5 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    2 Federated Barret Magshots
Manufacturer: Michaelson Engineering
    Primary Factory: Morley
Communications System: GDI Type 447
Targeting and Tracking System: GDI Type 500

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      10 points                1.50
Engine:             Fuel-Cell Engine              85                       3.00
    Cruise MP:  12
    Flank MP:   18
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             1                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            1.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  35                  2.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     11       
                                          Left/Right    8/8         
                                                Rear     6         
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Magshots                                   FR        2         2         1.00
LRM-5                                        FR        2         1         2.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           FR        -         0         1.00
@Magshot Gauss Rifle (50)                    BD        -         0         1.00
@LRM-5 (Artemis) (24)                        BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      1    Points: 4
12v        1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: EE


Second is the Chetnik Medium Tank.   Good speed, anemic weapons load-out, decent armor.   It was intended to be an affordable garrison tank, but lost out to other designs such as the larger, more expensive Morningstar.

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Chetnik Medium Tank

Mass: 40 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 3132
Cost: 1,019,600 C-Bills
Battle Value: 719

Power Plant: Michaelson GemCel 220 Fuel Cell Engine
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor: Victrix Medium Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1 Mydron SnakeKiller Light AC/5
    1  Streak SRM-2
    2 Federated Barret Magshots
Manufacturer: MIchaelson Engineering
    Primary Factory: Morley
Communications System: GDI Type 447
Targeting and Tracking System: GDI Type 400

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                4.00
Engine:             Fuel-Cell Engine             220                      12.00
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             1                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 170                  9.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     41       
                                          Left/Right   34/34       
                                              Turret     34       
                                                Rear     27       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Magshot                                      FR        1         1         0.50
Light AC/5                                   T         1         1         5.00
Streak SRM-2                                 T         2         1         1.50
Magshot                                      T         1         1         0.50
@Light AC/5 (20)                             BD        -         0         1.00
@LAC/5 (Flechette) (20)                      BD        -         0         1.00
@Streak SRM-2 (50)                           BD        -         0         1.00
@Magshot Gauss Rifle (50)                    BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 7
6w         2       2       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/0)


Ruger

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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #7 on: 09 February 2019, 14:31:22 »
And another entry:

Background:

The engineers had been working on the design of a new battle tank for several long months, spending endless hours at their computer design programs, ensuring that each component was perfect to the finished product they had planned. It was coming down to the last weeks of the project before the first prototype version was to be manufactured when the company's management were indicted on embezzlement charges. Now, with little time left, the engineers that were the last hope of their company found that they no longer had the funds to make their dream tank. In fact, they barely had enough to scrape together a modest prototype in time for the competition, and most of its features had to be downgraded, from engine to weapons to armor, in order for it to be built at all. However, they banded together and decided that if they were going to go down, they were going to go down together, battling to the end, as the 300 Spartans did at Thermopylae so many centuries ago.

Despite their best efforts, the engineers failed to win the bid, and their company folded, but their battle tank, the SPN-480 Spartan, has become legendary in its own right.

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SPN-480 Spartan

Mass: 50 tons
Internal Chassis: 5 tons
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell - 15 tons
Cruise MP: 5
Flank MP: 8
Heat Sinks: 3 - 2 tons
Power Amplifier: 0.5 tons
Control Equipment: 2.5 tons
Turret: 1 ton
Armor: 152 - 8.5 tons (ferro)
Front: 36
Turret: 36
Sides: 30/30
Rear: 20
Weapons and Equipment:
LAC/5 - Turret - 5 tons
2 x MML-3 - Turret - 3 tons
Medium Laser - Turret - 1 ton
Machine Gun - Turret - 0.5 tons
Machine Gun - Front - 0.5 tons
2 x Vehicular Grenade Launchers - Rear - 1 ton
Ammo(LAC)40 - Body - 2 tons
Ammo(MML)80/66 - Body - 2 tons
Ammo(MG)100 - Body - 0.5 tons

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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #8 on: 10 February 2019, 17:54:06 »
And another entry:

Background:

The engineers had been working on the design of a new battle tank for several long months, spending endless hours at their computer design programs, ensuring that each component was perfect to the finished product they had planned. It was coming down to the last weeks of the project before the first prototype version was to be manufactured when the company's management were indicted on embezzlement charges. Now, with little time left, the engineers that were the last hope of their company found that they no longer had the funds to make their dream tank. In fact, they barely had enough to scrape together a modest prototype in time for the competition, and most of its features had to be downgraded, from engine to weapons to armor, in order for it to be built at all. However, they banded together and decided that if they were going to go down, they were going to go down together, battling to the end, as the 300 Spartans did at Thermopylae so many centuries ago.

Despite their best efforts, the engineers failed to win the bid, and their company folded, but their battle tank, the SPN-480 Spartan, has become legendary in its own right.

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SPN-480 Spartan

Mass: 50 tons
Internal Chassis: 5 tons
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell - 15 tons
Cruise MP: 5
Flank MP: 8
Heat Sinks: 3 - 2 tons
Power Amplifier: 0.5 tons
Control Equipment: 2.5 tons
Turret: 1 ton
Armor: 152 - 8.5 tons (ferro)
Front: 36
Turret: 36
Sides: 30/30
Rear: 20
Weapons and Equipment:
LAC/5 - Turret - 5 tons
2 x MML-3 - Turret - 3 tons
Medium Laser - Turret - 1 ton
Machine Gun - Turret - 0.5 tons
Machine Gun - Front - 0.5 tons
2 x Vehicular Grenade Launchers - Rear - 1 ton
Ammo(LAC)40 - Body - 2 tons
Ammo(MML)80/66 - Body - 2 tons
Ammo(MG)100 - Body - 0.5 tons

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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #9 on: 19 February 2019, 05:25:43 »
Ruger, for your Spartan tank design doesn't the Fuel Cell engine come with a free heat sink included so you only need 2 tons of additional heat sinks?

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Re: bad idea vehicles! (a design challenge)
« Reply #10 on: 19 February 2019, 05:33:36 »
Ruger, for your Spartan tank design doesn't the Fuel Cell engine come with a free heat sink included so you only need 2 tons of additional heat sinks?

Erm, yes? That's how it was written (3 heat sinks, 2 tons for them)...

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