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BloodRose

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #60 on: 13 February 2019, 20:53:00 »
Nice. Thought I think the market for underarmored 60-ton 3/5 weapon carriers might be a bit heavily contested...

Maybe keep it at 4/6 to make it stand out?
Thanks, I did think about that but these are not supposed to represent manufactured weapons carriers, but rather field conversions on the preexisting Utility Track that I posted at the top of the massive pile of carriers. Think of it this way: You have a load of spare parts and your conventional forces are getting mullered/the enemy attacked at a vulnerable point. So you take these guns/launchers/etc and strap them onto the first available chassis capable of carrying them, in this case the Utility Track, to create a desperate last-ditch Technical.
The Marauder MAD-3r. A mech of perfection and beauty, a walking duellist and a monster on the offensive.
Or at least it would be if someone would stick more heatsinks in!

Sabelkatten

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #61 on: 23 February 2019, 10:16:09 »
Not the most popular tank in the DCMS the T14 is mostly known for its popgun armament, a somewhat unfair characterization thought technically true. The medium AC fits better on a light tank than a heavy MBT, but the missile armament makes up for it.

The true reason most crews dislike the tank is the lack of close-in defense. In theory this should be countered by positioning multiple vehicles with overlapping firing arcs but in practice this often fails. To provide an easier to use close-in defense the T14S version was developed which simply replaces the LRM racks with twin SRM6 racks.

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T14 heavy tank

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-D-A
Production Year: 2750
Cost: 1,028,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 693

Power Plant:  240 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/5
    3  LRM-5s
    2  Machine Guns
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                240                      23.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 128                  8.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     33       
                                          Left/Right   25/25       
                                              Turret     25       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
2 Machine Guns                               T         0         2         1.00
3 LRM-5s                                     T         6         3         6.00
@AC/5 (20)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@LRM-5 (48)                                  BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 7
4t         2       2       2       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/2), IF 1


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T14S heavy tank

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,268,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 676

Power Plant:  240 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/5
    2  SRM-6s
    2  Machine Guns
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                240                      23.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 128                  8.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     33       
                                          Left/Right   25/25       
                                              Turret     25       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
2 Machine Guns                               T         0         2         1.00
2 SRM-6s                                     T         8         2         6.00
@AC/5 (20)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@SRM-6 (30)                                  BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 7
4t         3       3       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(3/3/1, SRM 2/2/0), SRM 2/2/0

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The A40 was originally designed to take (illegally) copied Scimitar turrets to quickly produce new AFVs for the CC military. The name - Crusader - was even chosen to show its enmity. The story could have ended there with a snarl of lawsuits and some production for miltias.

But Scarburough found that there was significant interest in the vehicle amongst their legal customers as well and decided to one-up the copiers by licencing a mostly identical design to producers in the DC and later other states.

A solid if uninspired second-line design the A40 only have one real weakness, its limited short-range and anti-infantry armament. As the front-mounted LRM is easily replaced a common variant features two more SRM2s and an MG in its place.

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Crusader A40

Mass: 40 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 653,333 C-Bills
Battle Value: 510

Power Plant:  160 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/5
    1  LRM-5
    2  SRM-2s
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                4.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                160                      12.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     24       
                                          Left/Right   18/18       
                                              Turret     21       
                                                Rear     15       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LRM-5                                        FR        2         1         2.00
Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
2 SRM-2s                                     T         4         2         2.00
@AC/5 (20)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-2 (50)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 5
4t         1       2       1       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1)

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Crusader A40 mk.IB

Mass: 40 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 646,333 C-Bills
Battle Value: 506

Power Plant:  160 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/5
    4  SRM-2s
    1  Machine Gun
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                4.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                160                      12.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     24       
                                          Left/Right   18/18       
                                              Turret     21       
                                                Rear     15       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
2 SRM-2s                                     FR        4         2         2.00
Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
2 SRM-2s                                     T         4         2         2.00
@AC/5 (20)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-2 (50)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 5
4t         2       2       1       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1)

Sabelkatten

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #62 on: 16 May 2019, 16:25:48 »
The Nashorn started out as a FWL attempt to copy the Tapir assault vehicle, which soon turned into a new project to produce a more practical assault infantry carrier. The Nashorn avoids the Tapir's wheeled suspension for tracks and replaces the twin heavy ACs with a single superheavy cannon and a light LRM battery to make up for the lost range.

Thought never produced in large numbers it has shown up in CC formations, and a few units have been captured and fielded by the LC and FS.

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Nashorn Assault transport

Mass: 65 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/D-E-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,536,563 C-Bills
Battle Value: 959

Power Plant:  195 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/20
    2  LRM-5s
    2  SRM-2s
    1  Infantry Compartment (3.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      28 points                6.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                195                      16.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 192                 12.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     66       
                                          Left/Right   48/48       
                                                Rear     30       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/20                                FR        7         1        14.00
2 LRM-5s                                     FR        4         2         4.00
SRM-2                                        LS        2         1         1.00
SRM-2                                        RS        2         1         1.00
Infantry Compartment (3.0 tons)              BD        0         1         3.00
@AC/20 (10)                                  BD        -         0         2.00
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-2 (50)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 10
3t         3       3       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, AC 2/2/0, IF 1

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Originally designed as a competitor to the Von Luckner the Thundercloud never really caught on. But to compensate for the losses of the succession wars production started up in the DC in the early 2900s.

But the producer ended up struggling for funds as the DCMS found heavy tanks a low priority. In desperation a black market deal was struck were several loads of tanks were "lost" to LC radiers, making the tank almost as common in LC units.

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Thundercloud heavy tank

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/D-E-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,892,188 C-Bills
Battle Value: 967

Power Plant:  225 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/20
    3  LRM-5s
    1  Autocannon/2
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                7.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                225                      20.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 168                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     43       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     30       
                                                Rear     25       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 LRM-5s                                     FR        6         3         6.00
Autocannon/20                                T         7         1        14.00
Autocannon/2                                 T         1         1         6.00
@AC/2 (45)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/20 (10)                                  BD        -         0         2.00
@LRM-5 (48)                                  BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 10
3t         3       4       2       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(3/3/1, AC 2/2/0), AC 2/2/0, IF 1

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #63 on: 12 June 2019, 15:54:14 »
Really just an upgunned heavy tracked APC the Husky has sold mostly based on quality, an unusual selling point for a budget AFV. Its FWL producer has made a point of using dependable subsystems and strict manufacturing standards which has resulted in the Husky being widely exported. Thought far from the most common IFV it can be found in most armies.

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Husky AT-2 light IFV

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-C-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 227,517 C-Bills
Battle Value: 274

Power Plant:  100 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Medium Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1  Infantry Compartment (1.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      10 points                2.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                100                       6.00
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             3                         3.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          0.50
Turret:                                                                    0.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  64                  4.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     16       
                                          Left/Right   13/13       
                                              Turret     11       
                                                Rear     11       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
Medium Laser                                 T         3         1         1.00
Infantry Compartment (1.0 tons)              BD        0         1         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 3
6w         1       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/0)

Originally designed for SLDF militia units the Smasher was never very popular, owing to its slow speed, limited ammunition, and relatively light armor. Used mostly to support static defenses many were destroyed during the Amaris coup.

Very few units survived past SW2. But in the wake of their massive losses the AFFS decided to restart production. The tanks have then spread to the DC, CC, as well as perphery nations.

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Smasher medium tank

Mass: 40 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 808,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 580

Power Plant:  120 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/10
    1  SRM-6
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                4.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                120                       8.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 120                  7.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     30       
                                          Left/Right   25/25       
                                              Turret     20       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Autocannon/10                                T         3         1        12.00
SRM-6                                        T         4         1         3.00
@AC/10 (10)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 6
3t         2       2       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/0, AC 1/1/0), AC 1/1/0

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #64 on: 13 June 2019, 08:41:06 »
Nice Husky... sad about the Smasher...

It really needs a Quad pack and another ton of ammo...

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #65 on: 13 June 2019, 09:45:37 »
 possible Husky variant would be to strip out the medium and sinks for a SRM6
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #66 on: 13 June 2019, 12:44:12 »
Nice Husky... sad about the Smasher...

It really needs a Quad pack and another ton of ammo...

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Would be a reasonable SW3 variant. The original was designed to counter mechs with the assumption it would be supported by its own infantry.

possible Husky variant would be to strip out the medium and sinks for a SRM6
A bit close to the heavy APC(SRM). It would be more effective, but a laser gives it a bit of character (and some very marginal holepunching to support the PBI's critseeking. ;) ).
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #67 on: 15 June 2019, 13:35:02 »
With the Smasher, Have you considered replacing the AC/10 with a Large Laser?  This would save you 1 ton to either armor up OR get specialist SRM rounds for dealing with non-Mech targets.
Saying that because the equipment isn't up-to-the-minute, bleeding-edge tech therefore not a threat is like saying an M2 Browning isn't dangerous to modern infantry because it is 100 years old.

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #68 on: 15 June 2019, 14:00:03 »
Eh?  I get 13 total tons for the Large Laser (5 for the weapon, 8 for heat sinks).  The AC/10 only has one ton of ammo, so that's also 13 tons...  ???

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #69 on: 15 June 2019, 14:29:26 »
Turret weight reduction.

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #70 on: 15 June 2019, 14:49:21 »
Ah, rounding... right.  This is one of the reasons I prefer Fractional Accounting...

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #71 on: 15 June 2019, 14:59:30 »
Eh?  I get 13 total tons for the Large Laser (5 for the weapon, 8 for heat sinks).  The AC/10 only has one ton of ammo, so that's also 13 tons...  ???
You are right, With only 10 rounds this offers no weight reduction.

Turret weight reduction.
Also don't forget the Power Amplifier.
« Last Edit: 15 June 2019, 15:13:42 by tomaddamz »
Saying that because the equipment isn't up-to-the-minute, bleeding-edge tech therefore not a threat is like saying an M2 Browning isn't dangerous to modern infantry because it is 100 years old.

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #72 on: 15 June 2019, 15:02:46 »
Heh, and that's another one!  8)

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #73 on: 15 June 2019, 17:52:13 »
The Smasher's pretty much a tracked Urbie, so more than 10 rounds for the gun is a bit excessive (thought the crews that run out probably has a different opinion!). Replacing a 20-shot AC/10 with a LL to get better endurance (and save a little weight) makes more sense. Look upthread for the Matilda infantry tank, a sensible use of a LL IMHO.

 

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