Author Topic: Mech grudge match for real : Mark II vs Kuratas! (Read 5083 times)

foxbat · « **on:** 01 July 2015, 10:25:01 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJTGLL2SnI

Looking forward for this!

And need I precise it? Go Mark II!!! O0

Matti · « **Reply #1 on:** 01 July 2015, 11:06:35 »

Life just keeps getting more interesting.

I remember reading about JSDF ordering some 3000 Kuratas, but I don't trust my memory. Do I remember right?

foxbat · « **Reply #2 on:** 01 July 2015, 11:49:20 »

No, Matti, you're right. Various European governments have also sent Memorandums Of Interest for the Mark II, but this stuff is still very hush hush, so I am not at liberty to discuss it any further ;)

worktroll · « **Reply #3 on:** 01 July 2015, 17:57:43 »

They're just finalising their teams of angst-ridden teenagers to pilot them ...

Notsonoble · « **Reply #4 on:** 01 July 2015, 19:04:51 »

The question is, will Suidobashi H.I. accept?

Notsonoble · « **Reply #5 on:** 06 July 2015, 19:24:05 »

It's on! https://youtu.be/7u8mheM2Hrg

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #6 on:** 06 July 2015, 19:27:50 »

I liked the Kurata's response "We need melee combat!!"

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #7 on:** 06 July 2015, 19:44:32 »

i've seen some people saying "The karatas will need a bunch of modifications for melee".. um.. actually no, because it's already got "power claw" options for the arms..

it's the 'megabot' which will need major mods.

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #8 on:** 06 July 2015, 19:49:58 »

Power Claws PFFFT. it should get piston-powered punches! >:D

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #9 on:** 06 July 2015, 20:00:19 »

I would settle for rocket punchs.

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #10 on:** 06 July 2015, 20:13:28 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 06 July 2015, 20:00:19

I would settle for rocket punchs.

I was being realistic heh. Hmmmm. Catridge powered punch. closest to rocket punch without paying more. Won't shoot like rocket punch though.

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #11 on:** 06 July 2015, 21:06:37 »

[drool] Can't wait
[drool] Live action Patlabor
[drool] Live action BattleTech
[drool] [drool] [drool]

Lazarus Jaguar · « **Reply #12 on:** 06 July 2015, 21:11:21 »

Hmm, the beginning of Robotjocks?

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #13 on:** 06 July 2015, 21:18:42 »

well, you know both groups are gonna make sure to televise the whole affair (the megabot people want to make a robot fighting league so clearly this is a step towards the publicity needed to build such.. and the Kuratas could always use the extra PR to help sell them. especially if Suidobashi H.I. can spin the footage of the Kuratas fighting into something to sell the mecha to different users.

Lord Harlock · « **Reply #14 on:** 06 July 2015, 23:19:57 »

Quote from: glitterboy2098 on 06 July 2015, 19:44:32

i've seen some people saying "The karatas will need a bunch of modifications for melee".. um.. actually no, because it's already got "power claw" options for the arms..

it's the 'megabot' which will need major mods.

I don't know. The Megabot's major issues is that it needs more armor around the cockpit. However, the Megabot is going to be harder to push to the ground since it's better centered to ground from what I can tell thanks to its treads. But yeah, it needs to have some form of melee weapon other than punch.

I suggest in honor of the tradition of Battletech that someone tell them that it needs a big hatchet or axe. Also, it's easier to swing a axe than wield a sword especially like a katana.

Lord Harlock · « **Reply #15 on:** 06 July 2015, 23:21:24 »

Also, we must remember that this fight is also the first time that someone will have a mech duell in real life.

Col.Hengist · « **Reply #16 on:** 07 July 2015, 00:10:39 »

There's another discussion about this in general discussions called ," they better call it Mackie"

I am Belch II · « **Reply #17 on:** 07 July 2015, 10:35:57 »

Awesome!!! They are even calling them Mechwarriors.

False Son · « **Reply #18 on:** 07 July 2015, 12:35:06 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 06 July 2015, 19:27:50

I liked the Kurata's response "We need melee combat!!"

Likely because Japan has very, very strict firearms laws that would be prohibitive for an individual to design and build a weapon for robot combat. The Mk II has essentially a giant pneumatic potato gun. From what i've read about Japan's firearms laws, even building that would present legal challenges.

SHI also doesn't want the MK II's paintball gun in play because the Kurutas is operated by HUD. Obscuring the camera lens would essentially blind the operator, whereas the MegaBots team has already started testing being shot with their own weapon. Their solution to paint blind? Wipe your goggles.

Both robots are demonstration pieces used in controlled situations. How they fight, and just as importantly where will be really important.

Drop Bear · « **Reply #19 on:** 08 July 2015, 22:55:23 »

say SHI got a tip, Windscreen Wipers and a big tank of Wiper Fluid

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #20 on:** 09 July 2015, 00:27:56 »

Would probably look like someone smeared a giant bug across the screen :Jumpy:

Drop Bear · « **Reply #21 on:** 09 July 2015, 00:35:35 »

not if you get some 4WD flow going on the wiper fluid (hence the big tank, say 20L)

Wrangler · « **Reply #22 on:** 09 July 2015, 06:47:19 »

I wonder how their going do this without wrecking the bot in the process.

One thing is they need do some serious shock proofing and else where. If they really do go 1v1 with each other, the people in the cockpits are going feeling like their inside a bell being rung!

MkII after looking at another video, looks like it was only intended as demotration vehicle try to promoto paintball like combat, at range. Not melee combat. I doubt they'll get to level Battlebots is (by the way new season almost over in the US on ABC ;)) with buzz saws, flame throwers, and ramps. :D

foxbat · « **Reply #23 on:** 09 July 2015, 12:01:34 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 09 July 2015, 06:47:19

I wonder how their going do this without wrecking the bot in the process.

Does anyone know if there exists a simpler civilian copy of these simulation softwares US Army TRADOC is using on the field? That would be anwesome way to record damage! :)

False Son · « **Reply #24 on:** 09 July 2015, 12:28:50 »

Quote from: Drop Bear on 08 July 2015, 22:55:23

say SHI got a tip, Windscreen Wipers and a big tank of Wiper Fluid

That supposes the camera arrangement would allow that sort of thing. I guess they could build a screen in front for such purposes. Modifications are needed. Certainly don't want that big arcade cabinet button used for opening Kuratas's cockpit just sticking out like it is. Likewise, I doubt the MegaBots team wants laptops sitting on their laps during the contest.

Quote from: Wrangler on 09 July 2015, 06:47:19

I wonder how their going do this without wrecking the bot in the process.

Or hurting the pilots!

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MkII after looking at another video, looks like it was only intended as demotration vehicle try to promoto paintball like combat, at range. Not melee combat. I doubt they'll get to level Battlebots is (by the way new season almost over in the US on ABC ;)) with buzz saws, flame throwers, and ramps. :D

Well, MegaBots has plans to mount the MK II on fully articulated legs. Maybe not in time for the fight. MegaBots has a huge advantage over SHI in that they can weaponize their robot much easier. Go take a look at FPSRussia videos on youtube sometimes. The things Americans can get away with is astounding. If MegaBots wanted an armor piercing harpoon gun to impale the Kuratas operator, they could do it. I highly doubt that is the intention of the MegaBots team, but what i'm trying to say is that SHI is being shrewd by wanting melee combat.