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This thread is for all issues and problems with the 2021 re-release edition of Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules.

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Current errata version is 5.0, and can be found here:
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This thread is only for reporting errata for the 184-page edition of Strategic Operations with the new cover.  We are no longer accepting errata for older printings.  The previous edition's errata thread (now locked) can be found here:
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Re: Strategic Operations (2021 Revised)
« Reply #1 on: 12 March 2021, 16:40:06 »
Strategic Operations, Corrected Third Printing

Page 102, Individual Weapons

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A side effect of individual weapons use is that individual standard-scale weapons may struggle to penetrate capital-scale armor; only a select few may inflict the 10 points of damage required to cause a point of capital damage. To reflect this, roll 2D6 whenever a standard-scale weapon strikes capital-scale armor.

Per Total War page 238, standard-scale weapons striking capital-scale armor don't round down, they round normally(0.5 goes up).

Change the above paragraph to:
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A side effect of individual weapons use is that individual standard-scale weapons may struggle to penetrate capital-scale armor; some may not inflict the 5 points of damage required to cause a point of capital damage. To reflect this, roll 1D6 whenever a standard-scale weapon strikes capital-scale armor.

The example text immediately afterward needs adjusting as well. Rewrite as needed to replace the PPC in the example with a Small Laser.
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Re: Strategic Operations (2021 Revised)
« Reply #2 on: 12 March 2021, 23:45:50 »
The side table of contents, so not really a page number, has a few spelling/grammar errors, highligted via underlining

"Aerospace Aerospace Movement" (it references page 62)
Aerospace Aerospace Movement -> Advanced Movement -> "Laterla And Deceleration Movement" (it references page 66)
Aerospace Aerospace Movement -> High Speed Closing Engagements -> Detection And Initial Manuever Phase (it references page 77)
Advanced Aerospace Combat -> General Rules -> Emergency Combat HEading Operation (Dropships and Warships only) (it references page 113)
Aerospace Technologies -> Space Stations -> "How not to board a Gravedeck" (it references page 139)
Aerospace Technologies -> Space Stations -> "Grafedecks" (it references page 140)
Advanced Aerospace Units Construction -> The Basics of Advanced unit Design -> Technoloby Base (it references page 143)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Repair and Replacement -> Obtaining Replacment Personnel (Optional) (it references page 181)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Positive Design Quirks -> Anti-Aicraft Targeting (Variable Points)  (it references page 193)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Positive Design Quirks -> Improved Target (3, 4, or 5 pts ()  (it references page 195)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Negative Designs Quirks (it references page 196)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Negative Designs Quirks -> Poor Perfomrance (3 Points) (it references page 199)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Negative Designs Quirks -> Un-streamline (it references page 199)
BattleForce: Advanced Rules -> Combat Phase -> DockedElements (it references page 291)
BattleForce: Advanced Rules -> Special Rules -> TArgeting and Tracking Systems (Optional) (it references page 323)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Special Ability Descriptions and Conversion Rules -> Electronicis Countermeasures (ECM) (it references page 348)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Special Ability Descriptions and Conversion Rules -> Mimetic Armoer System (MAS) (it references page 350)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Special Ability Descriptions and Conversion Rules -> Mobile Armyr Surgical Hospital (MASH#) (it references page 351)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Special Ability Descriptions and Conversion Rules -> Very Larger (VLG) (it references page 354)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Converting CBT Elements to BattleForce -> Converting Movement Poikts (MP) and Movement Modes (it references page )355
Miniatures Rules -> Combat -> Destroying A unit (it references page 396)


Corrections would be spelling and grammar:

"Aerospace Aerospace Movement" (it references page 62)
Aerospace Aerospace Movement -> Advanced Movement -> "Lateral And Deceleration Movement" (it references page 66)
Aerospace Aerospace Movement -> High Speed Closing Engagements -> Detection And Initial Maneuver Phase (it references page 77)
Advanced Aerospace Combat -> General Rules -> Emergency Combat Heading Operation (Dropships and Warships only) (it references page 113)
Aerospace Technologies -> Space Stations -> "How not to board a Gravdeck" (it references page 139)
Aerospace Technologies -> Space Stations -> "Gravdecks" (it references page 140)
Advanced Aerospace Units Construction -> The Basics of Advanced unit Design -> Technology Base (it references page 143)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Repair and Replacement -> Obtaining Replacement Personnel (Optional) (it references page 181)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Positive Design Quirks -> Anti-Aircraft Targeting (Variable Points)  (it references page 193)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Positive Design Quirks -> Improved Target (3, 4, or 5 pts)  (it references page 195)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Negative Design Quirks (it references page 196)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Negative Design Quirks -> Poor Performance (3 Points) (it references page 199)
Maintenance, Salvage, Repair & Customization -> Design Quirks (Optional) -> Negative Design Quirks -> Un-streamlined (it references page 199)
BattleForce: Advanced Rules -> Combat Phase -> Docked Elements (it references page 291)
BattleForce: Advanced Rules -> Special Rules -> Targeting and Tracking Systems (Optional) (it references page 323)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Special Ability Descriptions and Conversion Rules -> Electronics Countermeasures (ECM) (it references page 348)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Special Ability Descriptions and Conversion Rules -> Mimetic Armor System (MAS) (it references page 350)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Special Ability Descriptions and Conversion Rules -> Mobile Army Surgical Hospital (MASH#) (it references page 351)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Special Ability Descriptions and Conversion Rules -> Very Large (VLG) (it references page 354)
BattleForce Conversion Rules -> Converting CBT Elements to BattleForce -> Converting Movement Points (MP) and Movement Modes (it references page )355
Miniatures Rules -> Combat -> Destroying a unit (it references page 396)

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Re: Strategic Operations (2021 Revised)
« Reply #3 on: 21 March 2021, 15:09:53 »
2021 Corrected Third Printing pdf

Here are the page reference errors to TO: AR, TO: AUE, SO: AAR and CO pdfs I've found in the initial release of the SO: AAR pdf. Plus a couple other problems I've found while looking for page reference errors. Other pdfs used are:
- TO: AR 2020 Corrected Fourth Printing pdf,
- TO: AUE 2020 Corrected Fourth Printing pdf,
- CO 2021 Corrected Second Printing pdf.

Note that:
1. this is a product of just one evening of my work, and it is entirely possible that I've missed penty of errors,
2. I have not checked page references to books other than TO: AR, TO: AUE, SO: AAR and CO (under assumption that since everything in TW and TM remained mostly on the same pages since first release, there is much lower chance that references to these books were broken by recent changes in core rulebooks line),
3. I have not checked the table of contents and the index.

p. 20, in the Atmospheric Pressure paragraph

Atmospheric Planetary Conditions (see p. 54, TO:AR).
change to:
Atmospheric Planetary Conditions (see p. 52, TO:AR).

p. 22, second paragraph in the SPACE DROPS FOR GROUND UNITS IN ZERO-G OPERATIONS section

Atmospheric Drops, p. 25.
change to:
Atmospheric Drops, p. 20.

p. 32, Running Out of Fuel paragraph

Refueling (see p. 33)
change to:
Refueling (at right)

p. 72, second paragraph in Chaser Weapons Fire section

when fired as chasers (see p. 72).
change to:
when fired as chasers (see p. 73).

p. 76, JUMP CALCULATIONS (DURING GAME PLAY) section, first paragraph

valid jump points (see pp. 121–122).
should probably be changed to:
valid jump points (see pp. 122–123).

p. 77, Ground Units in Zero-G Operations section

must also roll to stay attached to the aerospace unit (see p. 120).
change to:
must also roll to stay attached to the aerospace unit (see p. 108).

p. 82, COLLISIONS AND RAMMING section

The Ramming Attacks Table (see p. 89)
change to:
The Ramming Attacks Table (see p. 84)

p. 82, ADVANCED HEAT section

Individual Weapons rules on p. 107)
change to:
Individual Weapons rules on p. 102)

p. 108, Control Rolls paragraph (note that this is not just a page number change)

applying all landing modifiers apart from No Fuel (see p. 22).
change to:
applying all landing modifiers apart from No fuel remaining (see p. 23).

p. 139, SPECIAL ENHANCEMENTS paragraph (note that this is not just a page number change)

They replace the Space Station cost multiplier of x1.25 (see p. 158) with x20.
should probably be changed to:
They replace the Space Station cost multiplier of x5 (see p. 146) with x20.

p. 148, STRUCTURAL COSTS section

Advanced Aerospace Unit Structural Costs and Availability.
change to:
Advanced Aerospace Unit Structural Costs and Availability (see pp. 146-147).

p. 148, FINAL UNIT COSTS section

Advanced Aerospace Unit Final Costs Table.
change to:
Advanced Aerospace Unit Final Costs Table (see p. 146).
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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #4 on: 04 October 2021, 09:49:05 »
Missing equipment write-ups for SO equipment not previously contained in TM or TO:AUE

This equipment includes (but is not limited to):
Ferro-Carbide
Lamellor Ferro-Carbide
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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #5 on: 16 November 2021, 18:32:10 »
Strategic Operations, corrected third printing PDF

Page 21, "Planetary Conditions" header, last sentence reads: "If a unit cannot be displaced (for example, all the adjacent hexes are prohibited terrain), the unit is destroyed."
I think this sentence should moved to the "Stacking" header two paragraphs below.

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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #6 on: 07 April 2022, 16:57:42 »
Not Errata, but simplification:

4th edition, page 146, the Advanced Aerospace Unit Cost Tables:

Basically these two cost formulas:
JumpShip Support Systems 10,000,000 x (Unit Tonnage ÷ 10,000)
WarShip Support Systems 20,000,000 x (50 + Unit Tonnage ÷ 10,000)

Could easily be simplified to:
JumpShip Support Systems: 1,000 x Unit Tonnage
WarShip Support Systems: 1,000,000,000 + 2,000 x Unit Tonnage

(There is no need to divide a value by 10,000 then turn around and multiply by 10 million, when just multiplying by 1000 would do.)

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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #7 on: 08 September 2022, 15:48:44 »
PDF 4th Printing
Page 96

- Surface to Orbit Fire
"Attacks can only be made against a target in the surface-to-orbit firing arc (see the Surface-to-Orbit Firing Arc Diagram, above)"

Issue: Diagram now on p. 97
Correction: Change "above" to "next page" or "below"

- Airborne-to-Orbit Fire
"Airborne-to-orbit fire follows all the standard rules for surfaceto-orbit fire (see p. 91), with the following modifications."

Issue: wrong reference
Correction: Reference either to Surface-to-Orbit p. 96 or Orbit-to-Surface p. 91
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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #8 on: 04 June 2023, 21:32:18 »
PDF, corrected 4th printing

General Rules - page 29, the italicized example, right-hand column, 3rd full paragraph, last sentence:
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Even though they are playing with Variable
Damage Thresholds, the current Threshold of that location
is 18, which is well below the MDT of 8 for a light Gauss rifle
bay., and so there is no potential for a critical hit for damage
exceeding that location’s Damage Threshold.

Last I checked, 18 is above 8.  Also, the period needs to be removed.

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Even though they are playing with Variable
Damage Thresholds, the current Threshold of that location
is 18, which is well above the MDT of 8 for a light Gauss rifle
bay, and so there is no potential for a critical hit for damage
exceeding that location’s Damage Threshold.

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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #9 on: 01 July 2023, 22:39:41 »
Apologies for double-post, but found another nitpick:


4th printing -> Advanced Aerospace Construction -> Designing Advanced Aerospace Units -> Step 1: Design the Chassis -> Choose Weight -> Space -> 1st paragraph (p133):

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For Space Stations and WarShips, this limit is 20 weapons per each of the unit’s 6 arcs.

According to this Warships have 6 arcs.

Contrast with the "Advanced Aerospace Unit Record Sheet Table" (also p133).  The table (for just the Headers and the relevant Warship row) says:
Unit TypeRecord SheetWeapon Arcs
WarShipWarShipNose, Fore-Left/Right, Broadside Left/Right, Aft-Left/Right, Aft

According to this, Warships have 8 arcs.


Recommendation:
Either change the table to remove 2 of the arcs (not sure which 2), or change the sentence on page 133 to say something like:
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For Space Stations this limit is 20 weapons per each of the unit’s 6 arcs.  For WarShips this limit is 20 weapons per each of the unit’s 8 arcs.

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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #10 on: 06 April 2024, 16:11:15 »
This ruling that units using the Abstract Aerospace System may change altitude freely as long as they are not in the Central Zone should probably be added as errata, presumably to the Movement section on SO (4th printing) page 17.

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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #11 on: 19 June 2024, 18:10:16 »
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StratOps, page 20 under the ATMOSPHERIC DROPS section:

After the sentence
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Combat and Support Vehicles can also use the dropchute to make atmospheric drops
add the following:
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Bays carrying any amount of standard cargo(see Tech Manual, pp. 239) cannot be used to make atmospheric or space drops.
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Re: Strategic Operations: Advanced Aerospace Rules (2021 Revised)
« Reply #12 on: 02 August 2024, 11:47:35 »
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Strategic Operations, page 85
replace
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ADVANCED ATMOSPHERIC CONTROL ROLLS
Total Warfare’s standard aerospace rules require any unit to make a Control Roll in the End Phase of a turn in which it is damaged while in atmosphere. Under the advanced rules, such rolls are still needed. However, rather than for every turn in which it takes damage, Control Rolls are made in every turn where a unit takes an Avionics or Control critical hit (per standard rules) or where a unit sustains a hit that exceeds its Damage Threshold. If a threshold-exceeding hit occurs that also causes critical damage, two Control Rolls are made. The +1 modifier for 20 points of damage does not apply when using advanced atmospheric Control Rolls.

with

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ADVANCED ATMOSPHERIC CONTROL ROLLS
Total Warfare’s standard aerospace rules require any unit to make a Control Roll in the End Phase of a turn in which it is damaged while in atmosphere. When using this rule, you no longer need a Control Roll for every turn in which the craft takes damage. Instead, Control Rolls are made in every turn where a unit takes an Avionics or Control critical hit (as per standard rules), where the total damage sustained by a unit that turn exceeds its highest Damage Threshold, or where one single Damage Value Grouping exceeds the Threshold of the location struck. The +1 modifier for 20 points of damage does not apply when using advanced atmospheric Control Rolls.

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The inaugural errata release for this book is now available in PRE form in the first post.  It's long overdue, but there was very little changed in terms of rules in each printing and so I kept putting it off until it was more than a couple of lines.

As the most recent printing was sent off some time ago, some of the rulings in this thread have not yet been captured in print.  In addition, there are some rulings in the rules forum that are not yet present (e.g. https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=67409).  These will be added in the next printing as normal.


EDIT: Final version now available on the main errata page.
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Strategic Operations - Advanced Aerospace - Pg 97

Replace

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Only a missile weapon may be launched from under water.

with

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Only missile or energy weapons may be fired from under water.

Add at the end of the bullet point.

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Capital-scale energy weapons suffer no range effects when fired while submerged, but do receive a +1 to-hit modifier for every 12 depths below the surface that they are fired from per Tactical Operations Advanced_Units & Equipment pg 230
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