Rocketfist: Too many SRMs!

[Sabelkatten]

I was trying to put together an IS mech with multiple MMLs in each arm, but it didn't come out as I wanted. So I started to idly wonder if it was possible to fit a six-pack of six-packs on each arm of a mech. Like a Nova Prime but with SRMs. Obviously doesn't work with IS tech, but what about clantech...?

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Rocketfist

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 23,958,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,711

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    4  ER Large Lasers
    12  SRM-6s
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             24(48)                   14.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 4 LT, 3 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 307                 19.50
    CASE Locations: LT, RT, LA, RA                                         0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           47       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  15       
                                           L/R Torso     21           32       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10       
                                             L/R Arm     17           34       
                                             L/R Leg     21           42       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER Large Laser                               HD        12        1         4.00
2 ER Large Lasers                            RT        24        2         8.00
ER Large Laser                               LT        12        1         4.00
6 SRM-6s                                     RA        24        6         9.00
6 SRM-6s                                     LA        24        6         9.00
@SRM-6 (30)                                  RT        -         2         2.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  LT        -         1         1.00
@SRM-6 (30)                                  RA        -         2         2.00
@SRM-6 (30)                                  LA        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 27
3          6       6       3       0      4     2   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 4/4/0
Wish I could have fitted a 25th DHS in there for perfect heat management, but I think this is close enough! 8)

[Daryk]

Well, if you go for a Small Cockpit, drop a ton of ammo and rearrange you could fit one... of course, then you have to figure out what to do with that stray ton...  ^-^

Another option to consider is a compact Gyro...  :D

[garhkal]

If you made it flip capable, how many extra SRMs could be in the arms?  If say you dropped one or two of the ER larges??

[Joe Ego]

It is totally possible with an IS mech if you don't also carry most of a Supernova's load out as backup weapons.

Here is a Crusader with rocket fists. If you go with classic leg mounts for two of the launchers then it has room to add two more DHS if you're willing to drop the C3 Slave and/or the backup lasers. 3/5/3 with a standard engine and max armor is also an option, but with SRMSs you really need to worry about getting into firing range and I would argue the C3 is also worth the weight if it helps get medium & short range shots to further offset the mediocre mobility.

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Crusader CRD-6K

Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Standard Biped
Power Plant: 260 XL
Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph
Jump Jets: Standard
     Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
     2 ER Small Laser
     6 SRM 6
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3063
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Cost: 12,300,035 C-bills

Type: Crusader
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 65
Battle Value: 1,235

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  6.5
Engine                        260 XL                  7
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 4
Double Heat Sink              12 [24]                 2
Gyro                                                  3
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Light Ferro)    195                  11.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         9     
     Center Torso            21        32   
     Center Torso (rear)               8     
     R/L Torso               15        24   
     R/L Torso (rear)                  6     
     R/L Arm                 10        20   
     R/L Leg                 15        23   

Right Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm, Hand
Left Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm, Hand

Weapons
and Ammo              Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage
C3 Computer              HD        1        -       1.0   
2 Jump Jet               CT        2        -       2.0   
ER Small Laser           RA        1        2       0.5   
3 SRM 6                  RA        6        4       9.0   
Jump Jet                 RT        1        -       1.0   
SRM 6 Ammo (60)          RT        4        -       4.0   
Double Heat Sink         RT        3        -       1.0   
CASE                     RT        1        -       0.5   
ER Small Laser           LA        1        2       0.5   
3 SRM 6                  LA        6        4       9.0   
Jump Jet                 LT        1        -       1.0   
SRM 6 Ammo (45)          LT        3        -       3.0   
Double Heat Sink         LT        3        -       1.0   
CASE                     LT        1        -       0.5   

Features the following design quirks: Easy to Maintain, Rugged (1 Point), Ubiquitous (Inner Sphere), Ubiquitous (Clans)

[Sabelkatten]

Nu-uh. Only got halfway. The goal was six SRM6 in each arm! With IS launchers that's 12 crits, can't fit in an arm.

If you made it flip capable, how many extra SRMs could be in the arms?  If say you dropped one or two of the ER larges??

Already removed the actuators unfortunately. :(

Well, if you go for a Small Cockpit, drop a ton of ammo and rearrange you could fit one... of course, then you have to figure out what to do with that stray ton...  ^-^

Another option to consider is a compact Gyro...  :D

I did consider a CG, but given that this wasn't really a serious design anyway I couldn't be bothered to switch tech settings... :P A small cockpit on a 3/5 100-tonner feels just a bit suicidal to me! ;D

[Tyler Jorgensson]

Nothing wrong with 4 ER Larges as your main armament and the HS to fire them. Auto Clan CASE is a lifesaver as well (hate that 7th ton of ammo but what can you do), not bad overall. I’d try it (once lol).

[Dakkath]

By dropping the srms to 4s and going down to 3 erLL, I managed to get it down to 70 tons with endo steel, 4/6 movement, and that extra heat sink.

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Rocketfist Lite

Mass: 70 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-D-D
Production Year: 3070
Dry Cost: 14,451,133 C-Bills
Total Cost: 14,613,133 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,085

Chassis: Endo-Steel
Power Plant: 280 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Standard Armor
Armament:
    3  ER Large Lasers
    12  SRM-4s

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                   107 points                3.50
    Internal Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 3 LA, 2 RA
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             280                       8.00
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             19(38)                    9.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 216                 13.50
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     22           34       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  9         
                                           L/R Torso     15           22       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     11           22       
                                             L/R Leg     15           30       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6 SRM-4s                                     RA        18        6         6.00
6 SRM-4s                                     LA        18        6         6.00
2 ER Large Lasers                            CT        24        2         8.00
ER Large Laser                               HD        12        1         4.00
@SRM-4 (75)                                  RT        -         3         3.00
@SRM-4 (75)                                  LT        -         3         3.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 3

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 21
4          6       6       2       0      3     1   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 4/4/0

[Sabelkatten]

But then, again, you don’t get 6 squared tubes per arm...

[garhkal]

No, but could you make all of those 4 packs, clan Streaks??

[Sir Chaos]

No, but could you make all of those 4 packs, clan Streaks??

Which is also not what this thread is about...