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Liam's Ghost

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Dido Aero Defense Cruiser: Zillions of angry photons
« on: 09 January 2024, 22:17:30 »
Toyed with the idea of a dedicated fleet defense cruiser and ended up putting 720 barrels on one hull. Added naval C3 to allow multiple ships to coordinate their fire against the same group of enemy fighters, and enough heat sinks to allow the ships to repel a fairly large swarm of missiles while  also keeping up their own fire.

(also gave it some token anti-ship firepower)

Is it the best possible AA defense? Eh. Debatable. There are a lot of different ways to do this, and this type is basically committed to the assumption that a fighter strike will be moving so fast that there's no way to intercept them before they reach their target. They can swat down nukes, they can probably kill a fair number of fighters, but if the attacker has a big enough swarm, then they're really avenging their charges rather than protecting them.

Also it has the disadvantages of using up over 47,000 tons on fire control and requires 332 gunners.

Fluff... I don't know. One thought is that the Didos could have been built by the Republic as part of a program to rebuild their fleet for... reasons.

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Dido Aero Defense Cruiser
Mass: 750,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Introduced: 3145
Mass: 750,000
Battle Value: 112,350
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-F
Cost: 21,838,766,000 C-bills

Fuel: 6,000 tons (15,000)
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Sail Integrity: 5
KF Drive Integrity: 16
Heat Sinks: 20564 (41128)
Structural Integrity: 75

Armor
    Nose: 195
    Fore Sides: 195/195
    Aft Sides: 195/195
    Aft: 195

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Fighter (18)            6 Doors   
    Bay 2:  Small Craft (4)         2 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (39667.0 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
None

Dropship Capacity: 4
Grav Decks: 2 (100 m, 100 m)
Escape Pods: 50
Life Boats: 100
Crew:  88 officers, 107 enlisted/non-rated, 332 gunners, 56 bay personnel

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 Naval C3
1,122 tons of lamellor ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                     Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)               Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (1,870 Heat)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)      900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)      900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
10 Laser AMS             70   3(30)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
FRS/FLS (1,910 Heat)
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Laser AMS             70   3(30)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
RBS/LBS (1,910 Heat)
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Laser AMS             70   3(30)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
ARS/ALS (1,910 Heat)
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 Sub-Capital Laser /1  240  10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Sub-Capital Laser
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 ER Large Laser        120  8(80)   8(80)   8(80)     0(0)   Laser       
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Large VSP Laser       100  10(100) 7(70)    0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Laser AMS             70   3(30)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
Aft (970 Heat)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)      900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
10 Laser AMS             70   3(30)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         

(Also I was pleasantly surprised that the shear number of weapons didn't break the record sheet)
« Last Edit: 09 January 2024, 22:20:20 by Liam's Ghost »
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Re: Dido Aero Defense Cruiser: Zillions of angry photons
« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2024, 23:26:16 »
Well, if nothing else it could always just blast EDM over the radio and be a discoball in space :D

Personally I lean more towards giving the ship big guns for anti-ship work, AMS for point defence and a large hanger bay for anti-fighter duty. Saying that though that would make a mess of even a Thera's fighter complement.

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Re: Dido Aero Defense Cruiser: Zillions of angry photons
« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2024, 02:54:14 »
That's a whole Pink Floyd laserium show of lasers!

Well, if nothing else it could always just blast EDM over the radio and be a discoball in space :D

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Re: Dido Aero Defense Cruiser: Zillions of angry photons
« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2024, 04:10:36 »
Hey look, a line cruiser based on more or less the same hull as well as an earlier never built ancestor!

What's got the Republic so worked up, one wonders.

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Jutland Cruiser
Mass: 750,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Introduced: 3145
Mass: 750,000
Battle Value: 266,615
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-F
Cost: 21,631,228,000 C-bills

Fuel: 5,000 tons (12,500)
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Sail Integrity: 5
KF Drive Integrity: 16
Heat Sinks: 3564 (7128)
Structural Integrity: 75

Armor
    Nose: 169
    Fore Sides: 208/208
    Aft Sides: 208/208
    Aft: 169

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Small Craft (4)         2 Doors   
    Bay 2:  Fighter (18)            6 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (42047.0 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
    2,700 rounds of Heavy SCC ammunition (5,400 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 4
Grav Decks: 2 (100 m, 100 m)
Escape Pods: 30
Life Boats: 40
Crew:  52 officers, 143 enlisted/non-rated, 114 gunners, 56 bay personnel, 32 BA marines

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 Naval C3
1,122 tons of lamellor ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                           Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                     Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (455 Heat)
5 Laser AMS                    35   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
10 Sub-Capital Cannon (Heavy)  420  70(700) 70(700)  0(0)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Heavy SCC Ammo (300 shots)
FRS/FLS (1,835 Heat)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)            900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)            900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
5 Laser AMS                    35   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
RBS/LBS (840 Heat)
10 Sub-Capital Cannon (Heavy)  420  70(700) 70(700)  0(0)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Heavy SCC Ammo (300 shots)
10 Sub-Capital Cannon (Heavy)  420  70(700) 70(700)  0(0)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Heavy SCC Ammo (300 shots)
ARS/ALS (840 Heat)
10 Sub-Capital Cannon (Heavy)  420  70(700) 70(700)  0(0)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Heavy SCC Ammo (300 shots)
10 Sub-Capital Cannon (Heavy)  420  70(700) 70(700)  0(0)     0(0)   Sub-Capital Cannon
    Heavy SCC Ammo (300 shots)
Aft (1,835 Heat)
5 Laser AMS                    35   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)            900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)            900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
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Ticonderoga Missile Cruiser
Mass: 750,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 3067
Mass: 750,000
Battle Value: 155,916
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-F-F
Cost: 21,576,346,000 C-bills

Fuel: 5,000 tons (12,500)
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Sail Integrity: 5
KF Drive Integrity: 16
Heat Sinks: 3000 (6000)
Structural Integrity: 75

Armor
    Nose: 132
    Fore Sides: 171/171
    Aft Sides: 171/171
    Aft: 132

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Small Craft (4)         2 Doors   
    Bay 2:  Fighter (6)             2 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (38627.0 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
    540 rounds of AR10 Killer Whale ammunition (300 tons),
    720 rounds of AR10 White Shark ammunition (240 tons),
    900 rounds of NAC/20 ammunition (1.2 tons),
    600 rounds of Barracuda ammunition (180 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 4
Grav Decks: 2 (90 m, 90 m)
Escape Pods: 30
Life Boats: 40
Crew:  62 officers, 143 enlisted/non-rated, 149 gunners, 32 bay personnel

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 Mobile Hyperpulse Generators (Mobile HPG)
1,125 tons of ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                        Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                  Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (700 Heat)
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                 180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (300 shots)
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                 180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (300 shots)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
FRS/FLS (600 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
10 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)     100  20(200) 20(200) 20(200) 20(200)  Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (100 shots)
8 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)  160  16(160) 16(160) 16(160) 16(160)  AR10       
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (90 shots)
    AR10 White Shark Ammo (120 shots)
RBS/LBS (600 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
10 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)     100  20(200) 20(200) 20(200) 20(200)  Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (100 shots)
8 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)  160  16(160) 16(160) 16(160) 16(160)  AR10       
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (90 shots)
    AR10 White Shark Ammo (120 shots)
ARS/ALS (600 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
10 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)     100  20(200) 20(200) 20(200) 20(200)  Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (100 shots)
8 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)  160  16(160) 16(160) 16(160) 16(160)  AR10       
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (90 shots)
    AR10 White Shark Ammo (120 shots)
Aft (520 Heat)
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                 180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (300 shots)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
Good news is the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show an immediate latency of 44.6 years. So if you're thirty or over you're laughing. Worst case scenario you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you've forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face.

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Re: Dido Aero Defense Cruiser: Zillions of angry photons
« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2024, 04:19:09 »
Nice Tico! :)

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Re: Dido Aero Defense Cruiser: Zillions of angry photons
« Reply #5 on: 10 January 2024, 22:34:31 »

What's got the Republic so worked up, one wonders.



They have found the aliens (they have not come in peace).

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Re: Dido Aero Defense Cruiser: Zillions of angry photons
« Reply #6 on: 12 January 2024, 22:05:18 »
That's a whole Pink Floyd laserium show of lasers!

My wife and I now have Darude's "Sandstorm" stuck in our heads.
They have found the aliens (they have not come in peace).

Maybe they are a Beautiful Alien?