Badab Black wash question?

[billtfor3]

Do you guys use Badab black applied straight or do you use it mixed with future and water?  I've been using it straight, but I'm going through wash at a rapid rate, though my results seem fairly good.

Any tips or advise would be greatly appreciated.

[Wolf Reaper]

Comes out dark, but does not need to be cut at all.  Pefect black wash in my opinion.

[Mastergunz]

It depends on the application for me. If I am wanting dark and heavy shading (i.e. metallics, actuators/joints, etc...) then I apply it straight from the pot. For medium shading (darkening up a base coat or black lining) I thin it a bit by first dipping my brush in flow extender and then the pot of wash. More often than not though I mix it to do overall blackwashes, 1part wash/1 part future/2 parts flow extender. If you want a 'splotchier' look to simulate dirt or scorch marks then use regular water instead of flow extender and future.)

-Gunz

[sounguru]

I have started to use this and have a few ways of using it...

Straight - Just do a whole wash and then go back and panel or highlight as needed
Directed - Full strength but using a small brush only hit the panel lines and joints
Thinned - I use flo-aid to get it to flow into the cracks better it will not give as dark of results but chance of puddling are reduced usually mixed 1:1

Since this came out I have not used any future in my washes it is already really good at settling in the cracks as is.

[ogre]

I agree with Gunz and Sounguru.  It can be used straight, but sometimes I cut it as well.  Just depends on the need.

[Mastergunz]

I agree with Gunz and Sounguru.  It can be used straight, but sometimes I cut it as well.  Just depends on the need.

Mike, that made us all sound like crack addicts.  ;D

-Gunz

[Shi_no_Kami]

I agree with Gunz and Sounguru.  It can be used straight, but sometimes I cut it as well.  Just depends on the need.

I will +1 this as well...

[StCptMara]

If I am using Badab Black, I use it straight. For everything else, I use washes from  p3, so I can control my
dilution precisely and not have to buy more of the harder to find anymore eye-dropper-like-things.

[txMaddog]

I use it Straight. :)

@StCptMara - Have you tried the Secret Weapon Washes?  They come in dropper bottles and they have like 30 colors.

http://blog.secretweaponminiatures.com/

[Mastergunz]

I use it Straight. :)

@StCptMara - Have you tried the Secret Weapon Washes?  They come in dropper bottles and they have like 30 colors.

http://blog.secretweaponminiatures.com/

I have been trying to find someone who has tried these before I invest in a set but they look awesome.

-Gunz

[sounguru]

I use it Straight. :)

@StCptMara - Have you tried the Secret Weapon Washes?  They come in dropper bottles and they have like 30 colors.

http://blog.secretweaponminiatures.com/

Good selections of colors and I use chalk all the time as weathering effects which is basically their weathering pigments.

[StCptMara]

I use it Straight. :)

@StCptMara - Have you tried the Secret Weapon Washes?  They come in dropper bottles and they have like 30 colors.

http://blog.secretweaponminiatures.com/

never heard of them...and my FLGS does not carry them. I make it a rule to buy most of my painting stuff from
my FLGS, since I cannot get my minis from them..

[billclo]

So what would you guys suggest as a wash for those of us who aren't using the Badab Black?

I've got Reaper Black Ink. I am new to minis painting (well haven't painted in over 30 years), and I just can't seem to get the recipe right. Either it's too dark and the whole mini darkens up too much, or it's too thin and the joints/recesses/lines are blotchy and you can't really see the darkening.

I've been using 1 drop Future, 2-4 drops water, various amounts of black.

My latest attempt at Battle Armor, I stumbled upon a wash that looked good, but I didn't write down exactly what I did.  I'm not sure I can replicate it again, and I'm getting kinda frustrated at the whole wash thing.

[billtfor3]

The ink is probably to thin for your mix.  I actually have added a couple drops of black paint for the things I want to have a nice dark panel line.

[phlop]

Here a link for Magic Wash. Hope this helps.

http://www.paintingclinic.com/clinic/guestarticles/magicwash.htm

[Charlie Tango]

and not have to buy more of the harder to find anymore eye-dropper-like-things.

Go to any drugstore (or even the health and beauty section of your local grocery store); you should be able to find an eyedropper pretty easily for under $2.  Check places like 99cent/dollar stores as well.

[StCptMara]

Go to any drugstore (or even the health and beauty section of your local grocery store); you should be able to find an eyedropper pretty easily for under $2.  Check places like 99cent/dollar stores as well.

Would you believe that around here, they do not carry them in most places you would expect? I got the one I have at wal-mart, but I have
not seen them since I got them. And I still can't get the glass ones like I would like.

[GunjiNoKanrei]

So what would you guys suggest as a wash for those of us who aren't using the Badab Black?

You could try the Secret Weapon Washes which have already been mentioned. Vallejo Game Color also has washes. While I normally avoid VGC like the plague the Washes are actually quite usable.

When it comes to mixing washes yourself I must admit that I have never tried using Future or a similar product but I also never felt the need to. For me just using (distilled) water and 'normal' acrylic paint (no inks) works just fine. Sometimes I add a drop of Vallejo Glaze Medium but this is always done without a set rule or method and only when my gut feeling tells me to do it (which is very rarely). My usage of washes might be a little different though as I always use washes very controlled and targeted. I never rarely flood the miniature or just 'slap it on'.

[HikageMaru]

Do you guys use Badab black applied straight or do you use it mixed with future and water?  I've been using it straight, but I'm going through wash at a rapid rate, though my results seem fairly good.

Any tips or advise would be greatly appreciated.

After a while, it gets kinda old and doesn't apply as well---at which point I add future and water.