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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #30 on: 04 March 2013, 13:57:36 »
I think comparing MegaMek to QuickStrike is worlds different than comparing BattleTech to QuickStrike. Let be fair.
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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #31 on: 04 March 2013, 14:59:40 »
True, true...
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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #32 on: 04 March 2013, 16:32:35 »
And with Kell's rules for pilots and pilot abilities adding just the right touch of RPG elements to the QS rules (shout out to tha man who made 'em!), I find no real reason to go back.

Where can one find these rules?  :)

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #33 on: 04 March 2013, 22:37:37 »
Here is the link to the thread for pilot creation.
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,1438.0.html

Strike Force is a mixture of Battleforce(strat ops) rules and Quickstrike rules and cards, with a dash of my own pilot cards and abilities. It brings an RPG element into the fast paced games of BF and QS.

Version 3.0 is coming out in about a week or so! This will be a complete rules handbook to all the game play rules and pilot creation. There is a program that allowed me to make a record sheet template that works great and looks amazing (i promise pics are coming!) I have Rule sheets for easy referencing and a video will also be posted on how to navigate through the Record Sheet creator. (it's not that hard but I figured, better safe than sorry.)

Also I sat awake last night thinking of new pilot abilities that will be included in the Clan Expansion and also the Jihad Expansion rulebooks, (sometime this summer they should be ready, I have lots of testing to do.) 

Anyway going to be a busy weekend for me and I can't wait to throw it out to the masses. Again thanks to all of you who contributed to my thread, you guys are half the reason I do this, the other is my constant need to tinker:)
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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #34 on: 04 March 2013, 22:43:27 »
I think comparing MegaMek to QuickStrike is worlds different than comparing BattleTech to QuickStrike. Let be fair.

Agreed.   Megamek is unqiue in its play experince;  and the very change in face to face to computer play is enough to alter a person's enjoyment of the game.

again, I enjoy battletech and Quickstrike.  When i'm playing a nomal, reasonabel sized game of a lance on lance, make it Battletech. Company sized or better, make it Quickstrike. Regimental..battleforce.  Use the right tool based on the job.

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #35 on: 05 March 2013, 19:02:14 »
Agreed.   Megamek is unqiue in its play experince;  and the very change in face to face to computer play is enough to alter a person's enjoyment of the game.

again, I enjoy battletech and Quickstrike.  When i'm playing a nomal, reasonabel sized game of a lance on lance, make it Battletech. Company sized or better, make it Quickstrike. Regimental..battleforce.  Use the right tool based on the job.

that's nonsense you loon. i use a hammer to drive screws and I ENJOY IT

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #36 on: 05 March 2013, 19:07:56 »
that's nonsense you loon. i use a hammer to drive screws and I ENJOY IT

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #37 on: 05 March 2013, 19:11:31 »

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #38 on: 05 March 2013, 21:05:31 »
I have no idea what that picture is supposed to represent.
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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #39 on: 05 March 2013, 21:18:51 »
happiness and excitement

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #40 on: 05 March 2013, 23:04:55 »
happiness and excitement

Gah, I thought it was supposed to evoke "Kill it with Fire!"

Which is a form of excitement I guess....

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #41 on: 06 March 2013, 05:38:06 »
Gah, I thought it was supposed to evoke "Kill it with Fire!"

Which is a form of excitement I guess....
Kill it with fire is what I got too. Evidently I need to brush up on my anime memes...
I mean, it's not like once you having something in low Earth orbit you can stick a gassy astronaut on the outside after Chili Night and fart it anywhere in the solar system.

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #42 on: 06 March 2013, 08:20:38 »
Kill it with fire is what I got too. Evidently I need to brush up on my anime memes...

I went straight to nukes  :))

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #43 on: 06 March 2013, 14:32:54 »
happiness and excitement
Ah for a second I was going to call a mouse exterminator or maybe even get the Mousetrap board game out.
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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #44 on: 07 March 2013, 01:39:30 »
*ahem*

Well, back to what I was saying (not that the mouse girl isn't adorable, mind), I think that Megamek kinda reinforces what I believe about Battletech's complication.

If you need a reasonably sophisticated computer program to keep track of all the different rules modifiers, then it's not a board game, it's a computer game. With Megamek, Battletech is VERY possible... and without it, it's strained and difficult.

I like Megamek. But it was first playing Megamek that alerted me to the problems OF Battletech, and started me thinking why I switched to games GW games like Necromunda, Warhammer, Epic, and Bloodbowl back in 96-98 over Battletech.

And it was because I could play a reasonably fun game without having to refer back to rulebooks for an obscure rule, the basics were easy to grasp, and it had enough tactical variety to make me happy. Plus, the minis themselves were... well... more fun.

But Battletech was always my first, and favorite, boardgame and wargame.

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #45 on: 07 March 2013, 01:44:54 »
Here is a reason to try Quick-Strike: When you buy, assemble, and paint a battalion or more of miniatures, sometimes you just want to be able to play all of them at once. Bevause watchign battalions or regiments of painted minaitures on 3d terrain is just awesome.

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #46 on: 07 March 2013, 04:46:49 »
Here is a reason to try Quick-Strike: When you buy, assemble, and paint a battalion or more of miniatures, sometimes you just want to be able to play all of them at once. Bevause watchign battalions or regiments of painted minaitures on 3d terrain is just awesome.
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Yes. Yes, it is a very good reason.

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #47 on: 07 March 2013, 09:47:29 »
oh man that looks like fun!

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #48 on: 17 November 2014, 11:59:03 »
Quickstrike, Alpha Strike and Battleforce. Can someone tell me why there are 3 systems?

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #49 on: 17 November 2014, 12:13:58 »
Battleforce came first, and uses the simplified rules found in all of these systems to play very large games, battalion- and regiment-sized games that are usually impractical at the Total War scale.

Quick Strike takes those rules and uses them to play Total War-sized games very quickly.

Alpha Strike refines, clarifies, and improves Quick Strike, closing various holes and making it just plain better. Alpha Strike completely replaces Quick Strike, so in the end, there are two game systems being discussed here, not three.
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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #50 on: 17 November 2014, 14:44:35 »
So do I get this right? I play Battleforce for regiment sized games and Alpha Strike for lance vs. lance sized games?

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #51 on: 17 November 2014, 15:05:35 »
I've had the most fun using Alpha Strike to play company-level games, but yeah, you've got the gist of it. :)
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Battleforce Space is too bulky. I vote we start calling it BattleFace.

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #52 on: 17 November 2014, 15:36:45 »
Thnx for the update O0 :)

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #53 on: 17 November 2014, 21:01:26 »
Quickstrike, Alpha Strike and Battleforce. Can someone tell me why there are 3 systems?

The three systems are Battletech, AlphaStrike(ex-"QuickStrike"), and Battleforce, used in that order from smallest to largest conflict size (lance, company, regiment).
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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #54 on: 19 November 2014, 05:28:14 »
I have taaken a look at Alpha Strike but I seems its for tabletop? I only want to play hex based games. Or did I get something wrong on that issue?

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #55 on: 19 November 2014, 08:21:37 »
I have taaken a look at Alpha Strike but I seems its for tabletop? I only want to play hex based games. Or did I get something wrong on that issue?

The default for Alpha Strike is tabletop.   There is a short chapter on playing hex based instead.  It's basically 2"=1 hex and has the line of sight rules from Total Warfare.
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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #56 on: 19 November 2014, 16:34:53 »
Yeah, the tabletop-to-hex conversion is extremely easy, and AS covers it. When I play Alpha Strike, 90% of the time, it's on hexed maps. Only played on tabletop once, and that's when nobody in the group brought mapsheets. Never had any issues.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
Battleforce Space is too bulky. I vote we start calling it BattleFace.

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #57 on: 20 November 2014, 21:44:15 »
Depending on how much of a change there has been between 3rd Ed BT and TW you can play battalion (combined arms) on battalion on a 6x6 or 8x8 map set in about 12ish hours. Is lots of fun with artillery and infantry ambushing mech. No house rules, pure BT rules (for the 90s).

Funny thing though.. our normal company sized games took 8 hrs... So a battalion sized force can be had by all if you are willing to devote the time for it. Played Battleforce as well when it came out and enjoyed the size of it.

I have skimmed over QS and still on the fence but may have to give it a try.

As for megamek it could make a nice additional for double blind games if you have a gm as referee.

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #58 on: 21 November 2014, 08:42:25 »
The problem that seems to happen that the systems like alpha strike offer not enough in depth gameplay for campaigns where players want to repair mechs

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Re: The reasons to prefer Quickstrike over Battletech.
« Reply #59 on: 21 November 2014, 08:48:15 »
Well, that's up to them. Nobody's forcing anyone to play Alpha Strike vs Total War vs A Time of War. The CGL Enforcement Ninjas have their hands full hunting down the forum posters that are just overall irritating. :)
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
Battleforce Space is too bulky. I vote we start calling it BattleFace.