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Re: TechManual - 6 June 2016 (v3.1)
« Reply #30 on: 21 October 2017, 09:34:27 »
TechManual print copy 2007 & PDF Corrected 3rd Printing Errata Clan W & E Table

I believe there is minor entry that was missed in the TechManual (Version 3.1) errata as of 6 June, 2016.

Classic BattleTech TechManual Print Edition
©2007 The Topps Company, Inc.
2nd Printing
Published by Catalyst Game Labs

Classic BattleTech TechManual PDF
©2007-2013 The Topps Company, Inc.
Corrected Third Printing Published by Catalyst Game Labs

Clan Weapons and Heavy Equipment Table (p. 343)

Under Plasma Cannon change Ref from 234 to 235
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BT TechManual PDF CAT 35002 2007-2013 The Topps Company, Inc. Corrected Third Printing Published by Catalyst Game Lab

Conventional Infantry Weapons Table (Cont) p. 351 lists the Laser (Hellbore Assault) (Damage Type) as (B).  The (Damage Type) designation (B) per TM p. 148 is Ballistic Weapons. The Convention Infantry Weapons Table entries for other Laser weapons on pp. 349-350 has the (Damage Type) as (E) for per TM p. 148 is for Energy Weapons. Based on the information the information appears to be errata.

Recommended change:

Conventional Infantry Weapons (Cont) (p. 351) under Laser (Hellbore Assault): change the (Damage Type) value from (B) to (E).

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Re: TechManual - 6 June 2016 (v3.1)
« Reply #32 on: 01 November 2017, 12:20:38 »
BT TechManual PDF CAT 35002 2007-2013 The Topps Company, Inc. Corrected Third Printing Published by Catalyst Game Lab

Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table p. 319 fourth column under Weapons has the entry of Particle Cannon (Support)*.

There is no information associated with the asterisk (*) on the right side of Particle Cannon (support) entry.

BT TechManual CAT 35002 2007 The Topps Company, Inc. Published by Catalyst Game Lab

Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table p. 319 in the third column under Weapons has the entry of in the first colunm of Archaic Weapons* and Particle Cannon (Support) and under the last entry has "*Not included in calculating Anti-Mech BV".

The above information appears to apply only to Archaic Weapons.

Recommended change:

Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table  (p. 409 fourth column) change Particle Cannon (Support)* to Particle Cannon (Support).

Update 11/01/2017 3:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time:

My apologies for suggesting that the asterisk (*) next to the Particle Cannon (Support)* be deleted. I confused myself after digging through the all the books and errata I have. The Particle Cannon (Support) is not part of an Anti-Mech attack based on the information provided on p. 220 or Total Warfare.

Recommended change:

Conventional Infantry Weapons BV Table  (p. 409 fourth column) under column 4 add the entry "*Not included in calculating Anti-Mech BV".

Again my apologies for the error.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #33 on: 09 December 2017, 04:57:16 »
Version 3.0 is out, containing the errata that will appear in the upcoming third printing of TM.  If you don't have the second printing of TM, you should keep your old TO errata document, as this new document just lists every correction that is being made from the second to the third printing ONLY.

Yes, the previous version was 3.1, and this version is 3.0: what happened?  The last release of TM was a PDF-only release.  I try to have these errata documents line up with the physical printings whenever possible.  As the book is at last getting a new printing, I'm changing the version number so that people using the document know that it lines up with the new printing.

No major changes in this new release, compared to the last one anyways.
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Re: TechManual - 6 June 2016 (v3.1)
« Reply #34 on: 15 December 2017, 12:21:54 »
Tech Manual Infantry Tables v3.0, page 2:

The "Rifle (Federated-Barrett M42-B)" is listed as having the "B" (Heavy Burst) special ability, uniquely among Standard Weapons.  Per AToW (page 266), in "Standard" mode, the M42-B has a 10 round burst, while in Light Machine Gun mode it has a 15 round burst (page 273).  Was the intent to allow a platoon to be equipped with heavy burst weapons as standard weapons?  The ammunition entry implies the listed damage (1.02, a value I have been unable to derive with the AToW Companion page 170 formula) is for the Standard (10 shot burst) mode.  For reference, the machine gun mode doesn't have the compact grenade launcher of the standard or close in modes.

Recommended change: Remove the "B" from the Federated-Barrett M42-B listing under standard weapons.  Consider adding an M42-B entry with the "B" special ability under support weapons.  Per AToW, it takes two complex actions (i.e., one full TW turn) to switch weapon modes.
After more than a year, I finally found the criteria for assigning the "Heavy Burst" special to infantry weapons on page 171 of the AToW Companion.  The requirements are a minimum burst of 15, and minimum PFxBD of 20.  The M42-B in standard weapon mode fails the first criteria (since it only has a burst of 10), so my original recommendation above still stands.

The more important thing about these criteria is that the basic Auto-Rifle meets both (it has a burst of 15, and PFxBD of 26).  This implies that basic Rifle Platoons should have the Heavy Burst special (-1 to hit at 0 hex range, and extra 1d6 damage against infantry).  As this is clearly an unintended consequence, recommend changing the second criteria to "minimum PFxBD of 30".  I'll cross-post this aspect to the AToW Companion errata thread as well.
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TechManual - "New Cover" wrong
« Reply #35 on: 19 July 2018, 08:54:40 »
Before sending latest version to the printer!

ATM's Aero damage values are still wrong in the "new cover" version downloaded 7/19/18 (they benefit from Artemis IV automatically).

pg. 346:

Column: "Damage Std. (Aero)"
ATM 6 is "2/Msl ( 8 )" should be "2/Msl (10)"
ATM 9 is "2/Msl (10)" should be "2/Msl (14)"
ATM 12 is "2/Msl (16)" should be "2/Msl (20)"

See New cover Total Warfare pg. 307 "Aero Attack Value" column for confirmation.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #36 on: 19 November 2018, 03:08:58 »
I've updated the TechManual errata to official status by uploading it to the main website.  While I was at it I added back in all the old errata, so it's complete like all the other core book errata documents.  No new material has been added.  Sorry it took 11 months, but as I've said, I'm not really doing errata anymore (well, at least not to the same degree).

I've also updated the infantry weapons and Battle Value PDFs there, so that they're fully in sync with the comparable sections as found in the new TM re-release.  For both it's just a couple of small errata fixes.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #37 on: 20 November 2018, 19:29:00 »
The M42B still has the Heavy Burst special listed with it's "Standard" version as I previously reported.  Similarly, the Heavy Auto Grenade Launcher still has its ammunition problem (also previously reported).

EDIT: I just noticed the Infantry Tables errata on the main page is still dated December 2017.  Did you mean you only updated the main one?
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #38 on: 20 November 2018, 20:13:45 »
The tables are only in sync with the TM reprint; the new version only added some miscellaneous errata.  We're still wrestling with what to do with the burst-fire issue as a whole.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #39 on: 25 November 2018, 14:04:41 »
p.101 TM - straight from the recent errata (pp. 4 and 38 of the errata v. 3.0 document):

"WiGEs: These vehicles must be constructed with a minimum of 5 MP."

This rule should specify if it means 5 Cruise MP or 5 Flank MP.
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Hello Errata board,

TechManual Hard Cover 2007/PDF 2007-2018 Extended Fuel Tanks Industrial Equipment Table possible errata.

TM p. 244 Unit Restrictions: Only IndustrialMechs and Combat Vehicles with ICE or Fuel Cell engines may install extended fuel tanks. Per Construction Rules "For Combat Vehicles, an extended fuel tank occupies one slot (regardless of its weight), which must be placed in the Body."

On the Industrial Equipment Table p. 344 cross referencing Extended Fuel Tanks to the Space column entry of CV has NA.

Recommended change to Industrial Equipment Table (p. 344)

Under “Extended Fuel Tanks”, change the CV Space from "NA" to “1”

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CGL TM PDF 2007-2018 Industrial Equipment Table p. 344 Pintle Ref
« Reply #41 on: 05 December 2018, 01:03:04 »
Hello all,

The CGL TM PDF 2007-2018 Industrial Equipment Table p. 344 Pintle Ref is listed as p. 235.

The correct page number is 234.

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CGL TM Hardcover 2007/PDF 2007-2018 External Stores Hardpoint
« Reply #42 on: 05 December 2018, 01:21:58 »
Hello Errata board,

TechManual Hard Cover 2007/PDF 2007-2018 Industrial Equipment Table entry for the External Stores Hardpoint may have possible errata.

TM p. 217
Tech Base: Inner Sphere and Clan

Unit Restrictions: Only Fixed-Wing Support Vehicles may install external stores hardpoints. (Conventional and aerospace fighters receive them free.)

Construction Rules: Aerospace and conventional fighters receive external stores hardpoints (also known as bomb hardpoints) for free (see Add Weapons, Ammunition and Other Equipment in the Aerospace section, p. 194). To acquire the same capability, Fixed-Wing Support Vehicles must install hardpoints. A Fixed-Wing Support Vehicle may carry a maximum of 1 hardpoint for every 10 tons of unit weight (rounded down).

On the Industrial Equipment Table p. 344 cross referencing External Stores Hardpoint Space column entry of F has NA.

The Heavy Weapons and Equipment Key CGL TM p. 341 has the entry:

Space Entry Code: NA
Construction Rule: Item may not be mounted on these units

The reference for the external stores hardpoint states that aerospace and conventional fighters have this installed for free. I believe the table entry is incorrect.

Recommended change to Industrial Equipment Table (p. 344)

Under “External Stores Hardpoint”, change the F Space from entry from "NA" to “0”

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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #43 on: 11 January 2019, 11:01:42 »
CGL TM PDF 2007-2018

Page 7

Still listed as Corrected Third Printing

This should now be: Corrected Fourth Printing
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #44 on: 15 January 2019, 20:21:32 »
No, it is [intended to be] the third printing.  The last PDF release from a few years back also says this, yes, but it never went to print, so this is the new third printing candidate.
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Re: TechManual - 9 December 2017 (v3.0)
« Reply #45 on: 16 January 2019, 13:03:23 »
No, it is [intended to be] the third printing.  The last PDF release from a few years back also says this, yes, but it never went to print, so this is the new third printing candidate.

OK, good to know. My physical TECH MANUAL is (C) 2007, so I am assuming it is a First Printing.


Xotl: if FanPro it's first, if WizKids, it's second.  Both came out in 2007.
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