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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #240 on: 17 May 2013, 14:35:47 »
The Branth riders, as much as I hate to admit it, are fine as is.  They aren't really meant to take on armored units.  Their primary role is recon, followed by terrorizing infantry.  They do both jobs very well for their BV.

Concur. I'd prefer a full-size platoon for the terrorizing bit, but the stock platoon will work very nicely as a scout or spotter.

...and now I want to see if any rulebook bothered to post an exception to the 'infantry can hide anywhere' rule and see if Branths can hide while hovering in midair.

And then see if they can swarm.

Because I'm a bastard.

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Possible. Could be one of the other 3145s, too. Or an XTRO.

Or something else entirely. ^-^
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #241 on: 17 May 2013, 14:46:02 »
There are better versions of the Tariq mounted infantry.  They aren't Rottweilers, but 5 ground MP is still fairly quick.

The Branth riders, as much as I hate to admit it, are fine as is.  They aren't really meant to take on armored units.  Their primary role is recon, followed by terrorizing infantry.  They do both jobs very well for their BV.

Please correct me if I´m wrong? What are we talking about? Theoretical units or stock units? I´m a bit miffed that the stock branth riders (3085) use elephant guns as their staples, disregarding the rules options, so they´re totally short-selling themselves. I´d really look forward seeing a reverential unit equipped "like they mean it".

And now, to re-rail this, how about ideas to even more strengthen the stealth schtick going on with the cappies? Am I the only one that really likes to see stuff like the C&C Nod Stealth tank?
Afterthought: [Expletive] would I be happy to see a more or less armorless, full null-sig chameleon tank with 2x 30er Apollo MRMs ....
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #242 on: 17 May 2013, 14:50:43 »
Two things:

1: The elephant guns aren't the damage-dealers, the elephant guns are warning shots to announce your presence so the incoming swarm of dragons can properly instill terror. The real damage-dealer is the dragons themselves, what with that 2d6 damage vs infantry.

2: Just because something doesn't use the most optimized gun available doesn't mean it isn't well-designed. Sometimes using top of the line gear makes no sense whatsoever. These guys are a minor part of a single-planet militia, not shock troops meant to mow down anything that comes their way, up to and including battle armor.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #243 on: 17 May 2013, 14:55:22 »
Personally, I'd equip them with a lance and a longbow just like I do for my High Elf Princes on Star Dragons... *cough*


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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #244 on: 17 May 2013, 14:57:06 »
Personally, I'd equip them with a lance and a longbow just like I do for my High Elf Princes on Star Dragons... *cough*

...I would use that to hunt Manei Domini.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #245 on: 17 May 2013, 15:04:33 »
Concur. I'd prefer a full-size platoon for the terrorizing bit, but the stock platoon will work very nicely as a scout or spotter.

...and now I want to see if any rulebook bothered to post an exception to the 'infantry can hide anywhere' rule and see if Branths can hide while hovering in midair.

And then see if they can swarm.

Because I'm a bastard.

I'd actually like them able to split into single troopers for maximum terror!


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Possible. Could be one of the other 3145s, too. Or an XTRO.

Or something else entirely. ^-^

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Please correct me if I´m wrong? What are we talking about? Theoretical units or stock units? I´m a bit miffed that the stock branth riders (3085) use elephant guns as their staples, disregarding the rules options, so they´re totally short-selling themselves. I´d really look forward seeing a reverential unit equipped "like they mean it".

And now, to re-rail this, how about ideas to even more strengthen the stealth schtick going on with the cappies? Am I the only one that really likes to see stuff like the C&C Nod Stealth tank?



They could do better, absolutely.  Especially in light of how little a BV or cost investment is needed to go over to say, AX-22s and a support laser.  But, for what they have, the Branth Riders perform their job just fine.  They are far from optimized, but they are hardly the only unit with that claim.  I'm just glad that unlike some of the other infantry units, they actually perform well at something.

As for Tariq riders, I may have misunderstood and mixed them up with the beast riders from HB:MPS that can also take Federated Long Rifles or SRMs.

1: The elephant guns aren't the damage-dealers, the elephant guns are warning shots to announce your presence so the incoming swarm of dragons can properly instill terror. The real damage-dealer is the dragons themselves, what with that 2d6 damage vs infantry.

A thought occured.  The Elephant Gun could also be to execute the Branth if it goes nuts.  Elephant riders used to do the same thing with a sledgehammer and spike, later a high powered gun.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #246 on: 17 May 2013, 15:10:16 »
@Weirdo:

Stop a bit. Let´s agree on a definition what we´re talking about, else this leads in circles.
Do we talk about the TRO 3085 Branth or do we talk about the rules that spawns said branth unit?
I use the later as basis for my arguments. And in my not so humble opinion, a huge dragon carrying some guys with flame-throwers is scarry. A huge dragon getting chewed by my flak isn´t.

@Marwynn:
Since when do DEST troopers have access to branth?

@False Son:

nah, you´re correct, the Tariq rider is pretty bad, with 1 point of TW-style damage.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #247 on: 17 May 2013, 15:12:44 »
I'm talking about the as-published 3085 Branth.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #248 on: 17 May 2013, 15:19:47 »
I'm talking about the as-published 3085 Branth.

Then we´re a bit at an impassé here. The RAR are bland, especially considering the built rules for them.
But still, consider vibro-dao wielding death commandos on null sig Branth :P

Edit says: let´s call them nazgûl.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #249 on: 17 May 2013, 15:20:45 »
@False Son:

nah, you´re correct, the Tariq rider is pretty bad, with 1 point of TW-style damage.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #250 on: 17 May 2013, 15:26:38 »
That's what I get for referencing Falco.

... I got it. I rarely get anything but I got that one.  :D

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #251 on: 17 May 2013, 16:13:11 »
The image that popped into my head involved a branth with some ridiculously huge piece of equipment strapped to its back, like the giant lizards (faambas?) the Gungans put shield generators on in The Phantom Menace. So, something you might find Wile E. Coyote buying from Acme vs something in the Sea Fox Christmas wish book.

Anyone happen to know if there are any Mage Knight or D&D figures that are branth-like?

Branth variants aside, I am hoping to see more infantry entries in the 3145 TROs ... considering the increased role and wide varieties of equipment in use by infantry in the Dark Age era. in fact, would be disappointed if the Fidelis don't make it into a TRO entry, maybe an XTRO with modified Kage armor or something.

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #252 on: 17 May 2013, 16:16:39 »
There certainly is some room.  The Silverhawk Irregulars were noted as using a Gauss type weapon emplacement when ambushing a Lyran task force.  Sounds like a LGR platform to me.  The place where LGRs actually shine.

But Branths will get their day when Andurien-Canopus turns out their Cyber Catgirl Dragon Rider Commandos.  Watch for it.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #254 on: 17 May 2013, 16:30:38 »
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #255 on: 17 May 2013, 16:33:01 »
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #256 on: 17 May 2013, 16:33:30 »
The image that popped into my head involved a branth with some ridiculously huge piece of equipment strapped to its back, like the giant lizards (faambas?) the Gungans put shield generators on in The Phantom Menace. So, something you might find Wile E. Coyote buying from Acme vs something in the Sea Fox Christmas wish book.

Anyone happen to know if there are any Mage Knight or D&D figures that are branth-like?

Microworld Miniatures has some 'lizard riders' in 6mm that might make for some fun alternate animal riding infantry.. very 'dinorider's' vibe
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #257 on: 17 May 2013, 16:38:22 »
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #258 on: 17 May 2013, 17:17:48 »
What that guy above me said!

(Edit 1) ...or I would be, if the clowns in IT hadn't blocked freaking Paypal for no reason whatsoever.

(Edit 2) Luckily, I live in the building, so I just ran over to my apartment and paid real quick. Downloaded!
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« Reply #259 on: 17 May 2013, 17:22:37 »
What that guy above me said!

...or I would be, if the clowns in IT hadn't blocked freaking Paypal for no reason whatsoever.

Reave them they are clearly tainted.

I'll wait till tomorrow it'll cheer me up when the hockey goes horribly wrong.

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« Reply #260 on: 17 May 2013, 17:45:51 »
@ Glitterboy -- thanks for posting, those are cool, very nice paint jobs, and the beasts are certainly the right look ... that one even has a Battletech-looking weapon on it. 

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« Reply #261 on: 17 May 2013, 18:06:01 »
Reave them they are clearly tainted.

I'll wait till tomorrow it'll cheer me up when the hockey goes horribly wrong.

Yeah, all my buddies from Detroit are dreading the rest of the series. But, we've got a thread for that already. ;)
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #262 on: 17 May 2013, 18:12:11 »
Great timing!

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« Reply #263 on: 17 May 2013, 18:28:44 »
@ Glitterboy -- thanks for posting, those are cool, very nice paint jobs, and the beasts are certainly the right look ... that one even has a Battletech-looking weapon on it. 

Time to go exercise the Paypal account ...
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #264 on: 17 May 2013, 19:29:39 »
With Liao out, I figure we can take a peek at what's coming next...

Art by Rudy Valle, you might recognize his work from No Guts, No Galaxy's Critical Hits.
Can anyone name the three tanks pictured? These usually come in threes...
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« Reply #265 on: 17 May 2013, 19:40:18 »
With Liao out, I figure we can take a peek at what's coming next..
Art by Rudy Valle, you might recognize his work from No Guts, No Galaxy's Critical Hits.
Can anyone name the three tanks pictured? These usually come in threes...
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #266 on: 17 May 2013, 19:45:11 »
No offense, but something off with that cover, it looks like we're looking at miniatures or something.

And is it me or does that Dragon have a backpack mounted missile launcher? (Simple enough to build and almost within the rules)

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #267 on: 17 May 2013, 19:47:26 »
thats a lovely dragon.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #268 on: 17 May 2013, 19:49:50 »
Is that a Dragon? The other one's a Rokurokubi with the sword...

As for the (Omni) Tanks, hmm Death? Bad News?

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« Reply #269 on: 17 May 2013, 19:50:45 »
As for the (Omni) Tanks, hmm Death? Bad News?
I'm thinking Society, they used Base-3