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TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« on: 24 April 2013, 16:22:48 »
So, yeah. Continuing it ;)

Who else is hoping to get to see the cover for the next one before it's released?
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Re: TRO 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #1 on: 24 April 2013, 16:32:54 »
Will there be a separate thread for ER:3145, or should it go in this one also?

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Re: TRO 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #2 on: 24 April 2013, 16:44:50 »
Ah, forgot about that one when I opened the thread. Will add it to the topic :)

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #3 on: 24 April 2013, 16:46:52 »
So, yeah. Continuing it ;)

Who else is hoping to get to see the cover for the next one before it's released?

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #4 on: 24 April 2013, 16:49:02 »
It would be interesting if the Liao(-Centrella) file had cover art showing both CCAF and MAF units, to highlight the ongoing alliance between the two realms (and the inclusion of Canopian units in with Capellan ones).

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« Reply #5 on: 24 April 2013, 17:06:13 »
Looking at the cover for ER:3145, I'm thinking thats CWX or CWF v.s. Jade Falcon depicted there.

I see An Atlas, Uziel, Dire Wolf, Savage Wolf, Warwolf, Hellbringer, Kit Fox, Looks like a blurry vulture and do we have any guesses what the downed mech in front of the Savage Wolf is? is that a Wulfen maybe?
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« Reply #6 on: 24 April 2013, 17:09:53 »
I'm fairly sure that the ER:3145 cover art is from Operation JOTUNHEIM (The LCAF return to Hesperus II in the midst of the Wolf-Falcon battle for the world).

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #7 on: 24 April 2013, 17:12:52 »
That would fit. the Atlas and Uziel do look bluer than the wolf mechs. and Wulfen/Warwolf would fit CWF better than CWX
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #8 on: 24 April 2013, 17:16:09 »
Plus you can see the LC logo on the Atlas' right shoulder in this pic. (I had been asking in the old thread what unit patch is in the left shoulder; it sort of looks like the one for the 3rd Lyran Guards, but seems to have only one sword instead of two.)


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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #9 on: 24 April 2013, 17:52:55 »
Looking at the cover for ER:3145, I'm thinking thats CWX or CWF v.s. Jade Falcon depicted there.

I see An Atlas, Uziel, Dire Wolf, Savage Wolf, Warwolf, Hellbringer, Kit Fox, Looks like a blurry vulture and do we have any guesses what the downed mech in front of the Savage Wolf is? is that a Wulfen maybe?

Definitely a Wulfen- the right arm missile rack is a dead give-away.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #10 on: 24 April 2013, 19:40:50 »
I'm figuring that TRO3145 Liao will have the Tiang-Zong in it, as it's the only MWDA Cappie unit we haven't yet seen (unless i'm forgetting something obvious, which with me is a possibility)
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #11 on: 24 April 2013, 19:59:29 »
Per Randall on Twitter

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #12 on: 24 April 2013, 20:17:09 »
Per Randall on Twitter

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #13 on: 24 April 2013, 20:21:06 »
I hope the previews for the covers for both TROs comes up soon.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #14 on: 24 April 2013, 20:33:46 »
Shouldn't this thread be in the Sourcebook forum?

Anyway, I just finished reading ER 3145, and I'll chime in with my thoughts after my first reading.

The fiction was nice, but the military command relationships yanked me right out of the story. They didn't make sense to me.

Kurita:
I was surprised to see Yori and Katana surviving concurrently, particularly with the heavy handedness of the overall universe arc these last ten years

Davion:
Caleb is dead. He has been that realm's only ruler with any serious faults since the major fiction storyline began with the Fourth Succession War (Katherine's common association is with the Lyrans, although she was indeed ruler of the Suns for a time). I think the authors have cheated themselves out of some great fiction, except that novels aren't published anymore, so I guess its a zero sum after all.

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Wow they won!  :o  And nobody died! :o

Marik:
I still can't tell what'sgoing on there  ;D

Steiner:
Trillian being portrayed as bad? Trillian? And they don't do it in a novel, just a few lines in an era report!  That's like having Huckleberry Finn or Treasure Island spoiled for you by cliff notes. Oh well.

The Old Republic Republic of the Sphere:
Yoda Devlin Stone is alive. The Republic is still hiding down its rabbit hole. And they are still maouthing pious plattitudes. *yawn*

Clans:
Malvina is nearly assassinated, and spends many weeks in a coma. Again, great novel material fast-tracked here.  :(  Alaric seems to still be on his long, steady plan to become Archon Khan, which is good story-wise. Clan Nova Cat has gone the way of the Blood Spirits, courtesy Toranaga and the DCMS. This would have been GREAT Gen Con-Origins gaming material. (Unless that's what happened last year when I was unable to attend Gen Con)

Mercenaries:
The Kell Hounds were wiped out, but then came back from the grave! And there was reference to Avanti's Angels, so at least I know that they managed to survive through the Dark Age. And Wolf's Dragoons are working for the Dragon again!

Bad Guys:
The Com Guard 1st Division lives!


Art was hit-or-miss. There was some which was really nice, but overall this may be the most lackluster collection of portrait art I've seen.  And on nother sad note (or nitpick ;) ) Battletech heraldry still makes 'cowards' out of many of its units. :(


Overall some really, really good info on House and Clan units. There have been a few House regiments whose colors, which haven't seen sunlight for centuries, have been reactivated and are serving line units once again! This certainly is a long awaited update, and effectively executed.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #15 on: 25 April 2013, 12:43:07 »
Mercenaries:
And there was reference to Avanti's Angels, so at least I know that they managed to survive through into the Dark Age. And Wolf's Dragoons are working for the Dragon again!

Fixed. Sorry... Have a look at 3145 Mercs' Jade Hawk entry.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #16 on: 25 April 2013, 12:46:25 »
Yeah, that was a pleasant surprise. Seems like we have a really good mix of merc outfits in 3145.

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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #17 on: 25 April 2013, 18:09:32 »
Fixed. Sorry... Have a look at 3145 Mercs' Jade Hawk entry.

Found no unit named Jade Hawk.

What I found (P. 79) was that the Angel's were defeated by Kirkpatrick's Invaders and they may, or may not, rebuild.
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #18 on: 25 April 2013, 18:10:30 »
Found no unit named Jade Hawk.

What I found (P. 79) was that the Angel's were defeated by Kirkpatrick's Invaders and they may, or may not, rebuild.


TRO 3145 Mercenaries, not ER 3145 ;)
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #19 on: 25 April 2013, 18:12:39 »

TRO 3145 Mercenaries, not ER 3145 ;)

Ah. Well, my review was of ER 3145, so he should have specified. :)
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« Reply #20 on: 25 April 2013, 18:20:18 »
Yes, considering the arc . . . I wish we did have some novels.  Beckett had been feeling his way to fighting off Malvina's control and it would have been great fiction.  It would have been interesting to see what happened afterward too because his influence has been removed.
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« Reply #21 on: 25 April 2013, 19:22:52 »
The ER3145 RATs for the CC and MoC don't have many 'Mech or Vee surprises; all of the units listed there are from existing TROs. The BA table lists an Amazon battle armour, but that seems to be the only new unit there. So beyond the Amazon and the Tiang-Zong, TRO3145 CC is going to be a complete surprise.

MWDA gave us three new Combine 'Mechs, the Shiro, the Rokoburi and the Hitotsune Kozo, as well as the Oni battle armour. The ER3145 RATs list a new tank, the NK1C Narkumi, as well as two new Battle Armour suits, the Kishi and the Zou. This gives us a fiar bit to expect for TRO3145 DC

I have to wonder if the new 'Cat Mechs, the Avalanche and Wendigo (and possibly the made-over Shadow Cat) and the Cizin Hovercraft aren't going to be in TRO3145 DC as well.
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« Reply #22 on: 25 April 2013, 19:38:06 »
You are forgetting that the RATs show a majority representation of what is supposed to be available.  I fully expect to have some trooper CC heavy/medium mechs make an appearance along with some new tracked and hover armor.  Seeing the MAC's Po II refit be a production model would be nice.  Remember, Daoshen has taken over some old Liao production sites along with FedSuns border facilities which opens up new lines.  We could also have some being retooled to produce new variants.  Oh, and they took Victoria back, right?
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« Reply #23 on: 25 April 2013, 20:04:40 »
Yeah, the CC got Victoria back, with interest.

I'm not saying that the RATs are the be all and end-all either. All I'm saying is what I'm expecting to be in the TROs using them and known MWDA figs as a basis. Given that I've only got expectations of two units in TRO3145 CC, I'm expecting that there will be a lot of new stuff and a lot of surprises

But then, my predictions for TRO3145:Mercs were only about 30% right.
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« Reply #24 on: 25 April 2013, 20:10:46 »
It could also be something like we see a 'FedSuns' design that was taken over by the Cappies or modified by the Cappies due to different philosophies.  Something like the Cataphract/Caeser.

Heck, I want to see some hovertank armed with a Plasma Rifle as its main gun, something like the Regulator II.
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« Reply #25 on: 25 April 2013, 21:10:02 »
ER:3145 was the first PDF/print combo I've purchased. Following the tweet the other day about a print copy hitting one of the dev's desks, what's the typical lag time to see the book arrive on my doorstep?

Going by announcements of previous products' street dates and backtracking to the announcement of their PDF availability, it looks like about two months. That'd put a hard copy of ER:3145 in my hands...in the first or second week of June?
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Re: TRO 3145/ER 3145 - The future is here
« Reply #26 on: 25 April 2013, 23:03:02 »
The ER3145 RATs for the CC and MoC don't have many 'Mech or Vee surprises; all of the units listed there are from existing TROs. The BA table lists an Amazon battle armour, but that seems to be the only new unit there. So beyond the Amazon and the Tiang-Zong, TRO3145 CC is going to be a complete surprise.

I'm wagering the Behemoth II tank will be in 3145CC, since it's produced by Aldis (which I think is still in Capellan hands in 3145). The ER:3145 RATs also give the CC the Kelswa Assault Tank (which I would think would be a Lyran design from the name, but I never played MWDA so I have no clue) and the generically-named Arrow IV Assault Vehicle, which isn't on anyone else's table. There's also the Shen Long battle armor, which also sounds like a totally new unit.

So that makes maybe five units we can expect to be in TRO:3145CC (Amazon BA, Shen Long BA, Tian-Zong, and the Arrow IV Assault and Behemoth II thanks). I, for one, am pretty damned excited - and I hope that if FM:3145 drops before the rest of the TROs, it gives us some fun hints towards other units in its (hopefully) expanded RATs!
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« Reply #27 on: 25 April 2013, 23:48:15 »
The Shen Long BA is in the Tech Readouts under the "Trinity" title, if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #28 on: 25 April 2013, 23:50:01 »
The Shen Long BA is in the Tech Readouts under the "Trinity" title, if I remember correctly.

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« Reply #29 on: 26 April 2013, 00:34:44 »
That's the Ying Long.

I remembered...poorly.
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