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The Night Has Passed; The Day is Near
« Reply #30 on: 13 November 2013, 03:34:57 »
You all understand if there is a 'Forgotten' Doctor then our good Doctor Who has used up all his regenerations now. A hidden Doctor would give us Twelve known Doctors and as we all know Gallifriens only have twelve regenerations, well except the Master who somehow got a thirteenth.

Well, actually the Master doesn't even count. I mean he went through all his regenerations, and then got several new (non-Timelord) bodies to boot. And then it appears he got a new (Timelord) body during the Time Wars.

Also Moffet has said he's pretty much tossed the limit out the window. Hasn't said how, just that the Doctor will find a way. Which my be the over arching theme for Capaldi's year (as that is all he's signed on for).
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Re: The Day is Near
« Reply #31 on: 14 November 2013, 08:30:20 »
The Night of the Doctor, a mini-episode:

http://youtu.be/-U3jrS-uhuo

I would watch the hell out of a TV movie or two with McGann's doctor written and performed like that
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Re: The Day is Near
« Reply #32 on: 14 November 2013, 09:02:17 »
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Re: The Day is Near
« Reply #33 on: 14 November 2013, 10:28:50 »
Well that improved my day.

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Re: The Day is Near
« Reply #34 on: 14 November 2013, 10:38:37 »
Finally!
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« Reply #35 on: 14 November 2013, 11:07:05 »
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Re: The Day is Near
« Reply #36 on: 14 November 2013, 11:25:54 »
The Night of the Doctor, a mini-episode:

http://youtu.be/-U3jrS-uhuo

I would watch the hell out of a TV movie or two with McGann's doctor written and performed like that

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Re: The Day is Near
« Reply #37 on: 14 November 2013, 12:43:26 »
The Night of the Doctor, a mini-episode:

http://youtu.be/-U3jrS-uhuo

I would watch the hell out of a TV movie or two with McGann's doctor written and performed like that
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« Reply #38 on: 14 November 2013, 23:16:41 »
Well that explains things

I thought there were 13 Regenerations? Also, how are they going to explain the regeneration from Matt to Peter during the Christmas Special if it is 12?
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« Reply #39 on: 15 November 2013, 00:57:56 »
12 regenerations=13 incarnations of the Doctor.

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Re: The Day is Near
« Reply #40 on: 15 November 2013, 01:00:08 »
Inquiry.  Should we merge these threads?  Or, since Season Seven is done, and this is discussing the anniversary year, should the old thread be locked - replaced by this one?
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« Reply #41 on: 15 November 2013, 01:49:32 »
This is more about a single episode than the show itself so I don't think so.

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« Reply #42 on: 15 November 2013, 04:10:49 »
Well that explains things

I thought there were 13 Regenerations? Also, how are they going to explain the regeneration from Matt to Peter during the Christmas Special if it is 12?

I have every confidence that they either won't mention the old 12 regeneration limit, or there'll be some Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey technobabble explanation as to why it doesn't effect the Doctor any more.
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« Reply #43 on: 15 November 2013, 04:33:10 »
Several easy ways to do so. Just grant the War Doctor additional regenerations. Maybe that is his reward/price for finally joining the Time War. The Master was offered more regenerations as a reward in "The Five Doctors", so I don't see why it can't be granted to the Doctor.

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« Reply #44 on: 15 November 2013, 06:33:01 »
They need to do more with McGann's doctor.

Hell, I still think they should have skipped Eccleston and used him for the relaunch.
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« Reply #45 on: 15 November 2013, 09:59:54 »
When the Doctor gets more regenerations he becomes someone else. He becomes the Master.

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Re: The Day is Near
« Reply #46 on: 15 November 2013, 21:16:00 »
They need to do more with McGann's doctor.

Hell, I still think they should have skipped Eccleston and used him for the relaunch.
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« Reply #47 on: 15 November 2013, 21:38:32 »
There were a long series of novels on the 8th Doctor that were canon before the revamped series; I heard they were quite good
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« Reply #48 on: 15 November 2013, 23:18:15 »
So do you guys think there will be more mini-episodes of young War Doctor?
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« Reply #49 on: 15 November 2013, 23:21:50 »
Only if they can get John Hurt to the Fountain of Youth :p
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« Reply #50 on: 16 November 2013, 06:34:03 »
The Night of the Doctor, a mini-episode:

http://youtu.be/-U3jrS-uhuo

I would watch the hell out of a TV movie or two with McGann's doctor written and performed like that
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« Reply #51 on: 16 November 2013, 07:59:37 »
So do you guys think there will be more mini-episodes of young War Doctor?


Was the Doctor actually using a different epithet during his time as the "War Doctor"--his character had changed so radically that he actually couldn't/wouldn't be known as the Doctor anymore?  (question prompted by the "Doctor no more" comment right at the end.)  And how is it that the War Doctor now seems to have his own separate physical existence?  It's possible he could be some kind of "bonus" regeneration created by the Sisterhood of Karn's elixir, and when the need for him is over, he's somehow extracted from the Doctor, who then resumes his "normal" sequence of regenerations--albeit with all of the War Doctor's memories and knowledge of what he did during that time.

Also, didn't the whole thing smack just a bit of blackmail by the Sisterhood?  "You can drink this potion and become somebody who would do things you would never do, or you can die now and the rest of the universe will soon follow you."  Could they not have kept him alive with the Elixir they gave him after extracting him from the crash?

Still, Cass' attitude towards the Doctor shows just how bad the Time War was--not only did "lesser races" know about the Time Lords, but both sides had apparently done sufficiently horrible things that the Doctor was tarred with that brush as soon as Cass realized he was a Time Lord.

Besides "The Brain of Morbius", what other stories have the Sisterhood of Karn appeared in?  In the credits, the leader of the Sisterhood is named Ohila.  There was an Ohica in "The Brain of Morbius".


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« Reply #52 on: 16 November 2013, 09:21:10 »
So its unclear they'll show the early days of the War Doctor and just goto the special with older actor playing himself in the last bits of the Time War with Matt and David running around with him?
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« Reply #53 on: 16 November 2013, 18:49:21 »
Its funny the Time War was so incredibly destructive that Cass wouldn't even except help to save her self from dying in the crash but exclusive enough that the war was confined to a few species. I don't think the Sontaran's were invited to play for example.

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Re: The Night Has Passed; the Day is Near
« Reply #54 on: 18 November 2013, 18:27:28 »
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiittttttt!!!!!!
I just had an idea. I know how they can get around the limit on regenerations!!!!

The Doctor died in the crash in "The Night of the Doctor". The Sisterhood's brew allowed him to regenerate into the War Doctor. What if it also gave him a new set of regenerations? So Matt Smith is the 11th Doctor but he is the 4th one of this set of regenerations?

Does it make sense to anyone else?

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« Reply #55 on: 18 November 2013, 19:13:59 »
Sure, why not?

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« Reply #56 on: 18 November 2013, 20:59:23 »
I'm going to support the idea that they've never really had a hard limit, but the limit was placed on Time Lord culture.
It stops folks from living forever.
With the Time War going, there's no Time Lord Culture, no culture, no regeneration limit.
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« Reply #57 on: 18 November 2013, 21:35:19 »
I'm going to support the idea that they've never really had a hard limit, but the limit was placed on Time Lord culture.
It stops folks from living forever.
With the Time War going, there's no Time Lord Culture, no culture, no regeneration limit.
Moffat hasn't brought the Doctor's regeneration limit up yet but Davies included a line in Death of the Doctor (from the Sarah Jane Adventures) that he can regenerate 507 times... which is a definitely a joke since the individual numbers add up to 12....
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« Reply #58 on: 20 November 2013, 18:37:35 »
New mini episode: "The Last Day"

This one is...intriguing...

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« Reply #59 on: 21 November 2013, 01:10:27 »
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiittttttt!!!!!!
I just had an idea. I know how they can get around the limit on regenerations!!!!

The Doctor died in the crash in "The Night of the Doctor". The Sisterhood's brew allowed him to regenerate into the War Doctor. What if it also gave him a new set of regenerations? So Matt Smith is the 11th Doctor but he is the 4th one of this set of regenerations?

Does it make sense to anyone else?

Works well with me.  Let's go with that. :)
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