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Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« on: 02 April 2011, 14:45:07 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with the PDF-only Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged.  This does NOT include the print version.

Product Link: http://bg.battletech.com/?wpsc-product=record-sheets-3060-unabridged

Please remember to follow the errata report template when reporting issues.  Thanks.
« Last Edit: 19 June 2012, 02:37:38 by Xotl »
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Re: Record Sheet 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #1 on: 04 April 2011, 10:30:43 »
Schiltron F, p. 51

  • change 4 MML3 to 3 MML3 both in turret and front (for a total of 6 instead of 8 )
  • change (MML/LRM) Ammo from 120 to 80
  • change (MML/SRM) Ammo from 33 to 66
  • add 1 ERML to Turret
« Last Edit: 04 April 2011, 12:19:21 by jymset »
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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #2 on: 08 September 2011, 06:51:56 »
These have probably been reported, but since any compiled errata got lost in the board migration I will post everything I have found regarding the mechs.

== RS3060 unabridged, pdf ==

Cossack C-SK1, page 103:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Kabuto KBO-7A, page 105:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Garm GRM-01A, page 119:

Has one point of unallocated armor, and has a BV missmatch with MUL 698 vs 701.

Suggested solution:
Add one point of armor to center torso, and increase BV to 701.
(SSW 0.6.76 and MUL used for new BV)

Garm GRM-01B, page 121:

Has one point of unallocated armor, and has a BV missmatch with MUL 931 vs 934.

Suggested solution:
Add one point of armor to center torso, and increase BV to 934.
(SSW 0.6.76 and MUL used for new BV)

Blitzkrieg BTZ-3F, page 134:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Shugenja SJA-7D, page 172:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Black Watch BKW-7R, page 177:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Tai-sho TSH-7S, page 179:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Hauptmann HA1-OC, page 193:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Cougar H, page 221:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Great Wyrm 2, page 232:

Side torsos are two points over maximum armor.
Center torso is four points over maximum armor.

Suggested solution:
Reduce rear armor to 4/6/4 and increase leg armor to 22. This keeps the total armor and BV constant.


Stalking Spider 3, page 237:

Lacks an index entry.

Suggested solution:
Add it.


Ha Otoko HKO-1C, page 257:

Record sheet gives era: Civil War, MUL gives: Clan Invasion.

Suggested solution:
Change Era to Clan Invasion.


Nova Cat G, page 267:

Missing Artemis IV fire control in the Weapons & Equipment Inventory box, even if said system is shown in the critical hit table.

Suggested solution:
Add Artemis IV to all three LRM 20 launchers in the info-box.


Blood Asp F, page 280:

Listed as advanced tech, even if it mount no such tech.

Suggested solution:
Remove (Advanced) from 'Mech Data box.


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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #3 on: 11 October 2011, 03:54:19 »
Never reported before, but I think I found a potential errata...

=== RS3060 unabridged, pdf ===

Minotaur, page 314

Record sheet only lists 1 ER Medium Laser, there should be 2x ER Medium lasers.

Suggested Solution:
Add second ER Medium to bring mech in line with its tonnage and TRO entry.

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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #4 on: 11 October 2011, 07:13:18 »
There was a software problem when originally creating the sheets which affected ProtoMechs with identical dual torso weapons. They are:

  • Centaur 4 (2 SRM 1)
  • Hydra 4 (2 AP Gauss)
  • Gorgon 3 (2 SRM 4)
  • Minotaur (2 ERML)

The armour mismatches and the BV discrepancies reported above were also due to software issues and will be resolved in the future. Thanks!
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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #5 on: 12 October 2011, 02:49:09 »
There was a software problem when originally creating the sheets which affected ProtoMechs with identical dual torso weapons. They are:

  • Centaur 4 (2 SRM 1)
  • Hydra 4 (2 AP Gauss)
  • Gorgon 3 (2 SRM 4)
  • Minotaur (2 ERML)

The armour mismatches and the BV discrepancies reported above were also due to software issues and will be resolved in the future. Thanks!

My copy of RS: 3060 already has all of those corrected.

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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #6 on: 04 April 2012, 10:21:51 »
Quote
Using PDF I purchased, no version.

Page 7 and 11, 2 Flatbed Truck (Armor) variants, duplicate
Page 13, Mantis VTOL (ECCM) has 2 Guardian ECM suites, I think maybe it should have an AEP too, and should probably be called just "ECM".  Units can't use more than 1 ECM system per turn.
Page 31, Pinto doesn't list Artemis IV by LRM5 (it does in the ammo, and should have it), I think the same issue exists on page 32, but am not sure of the variant as its the only source

The Mantis has two ECM on purpose. It is specifically game flavor of the designers providing redundancy. Remember, canon designs are not always good designs.
« Last Edit: 10 April 2012, 23:44:43 by Xotl »
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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #7 on: 18 May 2012, 18:53:37 »
Page 36 Chevalier Light Tank (Speed Variant):
It seems the variant misses it's ER large laser. The tank is 7.5  tons under weight (exactly the desired weight for
a turret mounted ER large laser and two heat sinks).
The variants paragraph from the TRO (page 18)  describes the changes from the baseline variant and not the entire loadout.
For example the BAP variant does not mention the laser: "Another variant, used by many Explorer Corps units, carries four tons of armor,
a Beagle active probe and a Sperry-Browning machine gun with half a ton of ammunition" But the ER laser is still in the record sheet.

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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #8 on: 19 May 2012, 07:35:27 »
That's an older and known problem but thanks for reporting it again.  The laser is definitely supposed to be there.

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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #9 on: 03 March 2013, 15:29:40 »
RS3060 unabridged, pdf

Pinot (WoB), page 31

Record sheet does not list Artemis IV FCS for the MML.

Suggested Solution:
Add Artemis IV FCS to the MML in the Weapons & Equipment section description.
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Re: Record Sheets: 3060 Unabridged
« Reply #10 on: 13 April 2013, 13:35:46 »
PDF, downloaded from BattleCorps on February 2012 (I believe this to be the latest because it includes many fixes listed in this thread and no update has been issued since download)
All ProtoMechs, pages 285 to 317

Every single ProtoMech has the internal structure bubbles for a 9 ton model, as per the table on TechManual page 82. This means that every ProtoMech but the Minotaur has an incorrect number of internal structure bubbles.

 

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