The Rasalhague Dominion: Friend of a Friend (but not your Friend)

[SteveRestless]

No, it's not just you. The rank of Mechwarrior isn't explicitly addressed at all in that passage.

[Archangel]

Indeed. Maybe my horrible English is to blame for this misunderstanding. I wasn't asking for all the rank insignias of the warrior caste in general, but for the rank of warrior in particular. The Field Manual depicts all rank devices from point commander to khan, but omits the rank of warrior. The entry cited above does not describe the device either. But in the first few pages it is mentioned, that warriors display a daggerstar, insinuating that this may be the case if there's no clan-specific device. I just wanted to know, if this is the case for Ghost Bear warriors (rank, not caste members in general) or if there are other sources implementing otherwise.

Nope, the Crusader Clan and Warden Clan field manuals are the most recent publication to address that specific issue.  No other publication released since then has gone into such detail regarding rank insignia.

[Tyler Jorgensson]

All MW have the rank of Point Commander: that is their particular rank insignia. The dagger star is an indication that they are a MW, Elemental, or Aerospace pilot depending I the coloring. Ranna Kerensky describes the various insignias in the Blood of Kerensky Trilogy.

[ArcaneRaven]

AFAIK, cadets who pass their trial of position (blooding) become full members of the warrior caste. Non-MechWarriors, like Elementals, may receive the rank of warrior if they haven't passed their ToP with more then one kill. If their clan does not use a specific rank insignia for this rank, their daggerstar (colored differently for each branch) serves as rank insignia.

MechWarriors retain a special role, since technically their only warriors (rank) but since they're the sole members of their point, they're de facto point commanders. Are you sure MechWarriors of Clan Ghost Bear are instantly promoted to point commander upon passing their ToP?

[Archangel]

Are you sure MechWarriors of Clan Ghost Bear are instantly promoted to point commander upon passing their ToP?

They aren't instantly promoted to point commander.  Its simply the fact that they comprise an entire point that for all intents and purposes they are the point commander.  As stated in both FM:WC and FM:CC: "By the strictest definition, a MechWarrior is equal to a Point Command and to any individual Elemental or aerospace pilot."

[ArcaneRaven]

Well, that's simply a repetition of what I posted before and no answer.

AFAIK, the rank of warrior is for all warrior caste members below the rank of point commander. Like an elemental or a pilot, who does not command his or her point. It is a contradiction to state that Mechwarriors equal both point commanders and individual elementals or ASF pilots. That would be like saying a soldier equals his fellow private and lieutenant in rank.

[Archangel]

Well, that's simply a repetition of what I posted before and no answer.

AFAIK, the rank of warrior is for all warrior caste members below the rank of point commander. Like an elemental or a pilot, who does not command his or her point. It is a contradiction to state that Mechwarriors equal both point commanders and individual elementals or ASF pilots. That would be like saying a soldier equals his fellow private and lieutenant in rank.

Well it be corporal or sergeant not lieutenant.  What they are saying is that since the MechWarrior branch doesn't have a rank lower than sergeant, a MechWarrior's position and duties encompasses both and therefore is equivalent to the elemental point commander and the elements he/she commands.  It might be more clear if one said that the MechWarrior (point commander) is the Elemental point commander and his subordinate Elemental rolled into one.  While he may have the rank of point commander, his official command authority only extends to himself like an Elemental.

[WeaponX]

Hey there guys, I've got a question on whether or not the Bears actually fielded a "Gamma Galaxy" sometime in their past.  I could have sworn I read somewhere that the Bears used to field a Gamma Galaxy, which they used to take the Tokasha Mechworks from Clan Hell's Horses, but later disbanded after the the trial due to combat losses.  Did I just imagine this, or was there actually a source somewhere (if so please tell me the book) regarding the Tokasha Mechworks battle, but with a different Galaxy involved?

[Archangel]

Sorry but I don't recall ever seeing anything indicating the Ghost Bears ever fielded a Gamma Galaxy or that it participated during the fighting on Tokasha.  Considering how invaluable the Tokasha MechWorks was to the Hell's Horses I can't think of any reason why Kilbourne Jorgensson wouldn't deploy his premiere Galaxy.

I believe you may be confusing the Ghost Bears with the Hell's Horses' Gamma Galaxy.  Their Gamma Galaxy was formed in 3046 just before the Ghost Bear assault on Niles and, after the battle, found itself stripped of warriors to replace the losses suffered by Alpha Galaxy.  As the most junior frontline galaxy, Gamma was the first to be stripped of warriors whenever Alpha or Beta Galaxies suffered losses.

As part of their dealings with Clan Wolf, Vlad Ward gave the Hell's Horses some Inner Sphere worlds bordering the Ghost Bear OZ.  Gamma Galaxy was assigned to defend those worlds.  When the First Combine-Dominion War broke out, Vlad Ward convinced Khan Malavai Fletcher to invade the Ghost Bear Dominion while the Ghost Bears were focused on the Combine.  Unfortunately, the Ghost Bears and the Combine quickly negotiated a peace settlement and the returning Ghost Bears tore through the Hell's Horses' forces forcing the Hell's Horses to withdraw entirely from the Inner Sphere.  Gamma Galaxy was disbanded to fill losses suffered by Alpha and Beta Galaxies with the remainder assigned to form the core of the newly formed Kappa Galaxy.

[WeaponX]

I believe you may be confusing the Ghost Bears with the Hell's Horses' Gamma Galaxy.  Their Gamma Galaxy was formed in 3046 just before the Ghost Bear assault on Niles and, after the battle, found itself stripped of warriors to replace the losses suffered by Alpha Galaxy.  As the most junior frontline galaxy, Gamma was the first to be stripped of warriors whenever Alpha or Beta Galaxies suffered losses.

Thanks for that, I think that must have been what I read.   Do you remember which book was that in so I could reaquaint myself with the situation?  I just vaguely remember that the Bears and Horses used to fight Galaxy on Galaxy battles and the last one they fought was just before Operation Revival. 

[Archangel]

Thanks for that, I think that must have been what I read.   Do you remember which book was that in so I could reaquaint myself with the situation?  I just vaguely remember that the Bears and Horses used to fight Galaxy on Galaxy battles and the last one they fought was just before Operation Revival.

As far as I am aware FM: CC and FM:WC are the only books that provide any details on either of the two Ghost Bear-Hell's Horses battles on Tokasha and Niles (where galaxy sized forces met in combat).  HH Gamma Galaxy's pre-Inner Sphere details are also available.  FM:U provides details on Gamma Galaxy's Inner Sphere misadventures.

[jklantern]

I would like to take a moment to mention that Friday, February 27, is in fact International Polar Bear Day according to my wall calendar.  I think you guys know what to do.

[rebs]

I'll volunteer my dropship to pick the Bears up if they want to celebrate Polar Bear Day in Great Lakes style.  The ice is not quite two feet thick, so it can be poked through easily with a small laser, I'm thinking.  Then swim time.  ;D

Only because some people around here are crazy enough to do that every year.  And I would love to sick the Ghost Bears on them, it would be lulzy.   

[marauder648]

I would like to take a moment to mention that Friday, February 27, is in fact International Polar Bear Day according to my wall calendar.  I think you guys know what to do.

Sure its not Polar Bears but still, bears.

[Tyler Jorgensson]

Feb 27th Polar Bear day? Need to start marking my calendars!

[jklantern]

Sure its not Polar Bears but still, bears.

This is even funnier if you imagine they're dancing to "WHAT IS LOVE?  BABY DON'T HURT ME!"

[Foxx Ital]

Silly SharkFox, thats the ghostbear version of a rick roll  ;)

[jklantern]

Silly SharkFox, thats the ghostbear version of a rick roll  ;)

You haven't truly rick rolled someone until you've done it via Microsoft Word.

Actually, my friends topped that when they did it via Christmas Carol, but that's another story.

[Foxx Ital]

You haven't truly rick rolled someone until you've done it via Microsoft Word.

Actually, my friends topped that when they did it via Christmas Carol, but that's another story.

You haven't rick rolled until you swarm someone with battle armor while singing "Never gonna give you up! never gonna let you go!"  ;D

[Jellico]

Last year one of the local radio stations got Rick to let someone down.

[marauder648]

This is even funnier if you imagine they're dancing to "WHAT IS LOVE?  BABY DON'T HURT ME!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASfLQm9iCc

here we go, the real version :p

[jklantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASfLQm9iCc

here we go, the real version :p

You know what?  I like that idea better.  LEAVE IT IN!

[rebs]

You haven't rick rolled until you swarm someone with battle armor while singing "Never gonna give you up! never gonna let you go!"  ;D

Damn you, Rick Astley!   ;)

I know picture eighties pop tunes as the main music for Ghost Bear Elemental battlefield mayhem.  And it's %@$#^! classic! 

Here's some Ghost Bear Billy Ocean:  Oohhh (ooohh!) I'm gonna touch you (gonna touch you!) And do the things that lovers do! 
Ooohh! (Oooohh!) I'm gonna hold ya (gonna hold ya!) I've gotta get it through to you...

[rebs]

Don't tell me I disturbed the Ghost Bears into silence!  ;D

[David CGB]

Don't tell me I disturbed the Ghost Bears into silence!  ;D

bahhh we have no response to those coments, which is why there are no coments

[Jaim Magnus]

Don't tell me I disturbed the Ghost Bears into silence!  ;D

It's not silence, it's hibernation ;)

[rebs]

Must be.  If you poke the bear and it just snarls, consider it a lucky day.   ;D

[Foxx Ital]

 O:-) We just want to lull you into a false sense of security...so we may attack you with musical numbers  ;D Think Macross 7  >:D

[The Eagle]

O:-) We just want to lull you into a false sense of security...so we may attack you with musical numbers  ;D Think Macross 7  >:D

Noooooooooooooo!  Disturbed once had lyrics about using music as a weapon, but I don't think that's how they meant it.

[marauder648]

If the Bears had anything playing whilst attacking someone it would either be Sabaton or ManoWar.  BIG 80s hair metal!  (This of course includes the music from the animated Transformers movie naturally).