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Diamond Shark/Sea Fox fleet post 3085?
« on: 25 October 2014, 19:28:23 »
So I was going through FM 3145 recently, and noticed that every faction has their WarShip fleet detailed, except Clan Sea Fox. Did I miss something, and it was published elsewhere? If not, will we get an errata or something that tells us which Diamond Shark vessels survived into the Dark Age era? Finally, did their fleet paint scheme change with the transition back to Sea Foxiness, and if so, what is their new fleet scheme?

(Knowing which ones got turned into ArcShips and which are still fully combat-capable would be handy, too.)

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Re: Diamond Shark/Sea Fox fleet post 3085?
« Reply #1 on: 25 October 2014, 20:09:11 »
The Diamond Shark fleet (what survived from the Jihad) was turned into ArcShips or traded to the Snow Ravens for vessels to turn into ArcShips.

Terror of the Deep --> traded to CSR (Lynn McKenna)
Nagasawa --> Talismantia (Spina Beta)
Space Hunter --> Caleuche (Tiburon Gamma)
Tracy --> traded to CSR (Marshal Ney)
Architeuthis --> traded to CSR (Mulhacén)
Swift Strike --> traded to CSR (Kutkh)
Devourer --> severely damaged and scuttled over Twycross circa 3085
Kraken --> Fox ArcShip
Poseidon --> Spina ArcShip
Titanic --> Tiburon ArcShip
Tsunami --> ilKhanate ArcShip

The four that were traded to the Ravens gained these vessels for the Sharks:

Scavenger --> either Megalodon (Fox Gamma), Maelstrom (ilKhanate Gamma) or Liberator (Tiburon Delta) [hasn't been specified which one]
Epimetheus, Treachery, Wild Swan --> Atlantean (Skate ArcShip), Abyssal (Skate Beta), Voidswimmer (Spina Delta) [hasn't yet been specified which one is which]

They also picked up some IIRC salvaged WoB vessels along the way. I'll see if I have any info I can dig up on them.

No clue about paint schemes.

Added CSR names of traded vessels.
« Last Edit: 25 October 2014, 20:18:40 by roosterboy »

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Re: Diamond Shark/Sea Fox fleet post 3085?
« Reply #2 on: 25 October 2014, 20:49:28 »
So only two combat ships, and a bunch of transports? Well, blargl. Especially sucks that they traded away their only battleship. :-\

I guess this saves me my next question, which was asking where Lynn Mckenna and the other new CSR ships came from. Thanks!
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Re: Diamond Shark/Sea Fox fleet post 3085?
« Reply #3 on: 26 October 2014, 13:20:20 »
This info has raised some new questions, enough that it'd probably take a full Field Manual(or at least a dedicated Field Report: Clan Sea Fox) to answer them all. But some basic questions that can hopefully be answered here:

Can I take it as confirmed that Megalodon, Maelstrom, and Liberator are Volgas, and that Atlantean, Abyssal, and Voidswimmer are Potemkins? Also, is it known which vessels are unmodified, and which are ArcShips?
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Re: Diamond Shark/Sea Fox fleet post 3085?
« Reply #4 on: 26 October 2014, 15:06:22 »
Can I take it as confirmed that Megalodon, Maelstrom, and Liberator are Volgas, and that Atlantean, Abyssal, and Voidswimmer are Potemkins?

I'm kinda confused why you would need that confirmed, since the classes of the CSF Khanate fleet vessels are listed in FM3145's deployment tables. But yeah, that is correct.

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Also, is it known which vessels are unmodified, and which are ArcShips?

All are converted. They may still have some few (likely very few) weapons left but the Foxes have no full-on combat vessels.

And point of terminology: ArcShips are the massive converted Potemkins that serve as the center of each Khanate. So that's the Kraken, Tsunami, Atlantean, Poseidon and Titanic. The other converted WarShips that serve as the central hubs of the various Aimags within each Khanate are known as CargoShips.
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Re: Diamond Shark/Sea Fox fleet post 3085?
« Reply #5 on: 26 October 2014, 15:29:53 »
...how I missed that list, I'll never know. Probably because the other  Clans got fleet descriptions in their text, so it never occurred to me to look elsewhere. I tend to skip past deployment tables.

So even Talismantia and Caleuche have been defanged? Sad Zug...
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