Author Topic: The Scorpion Empire : Plus Ultra (Read 201759 times)

rebs · « **Reply #840 on:** 04 December 2020, 11:45:53 »

Quote from: ArkRoyalRavager on 04 December 2020, 09:26:09

I doubt the homies are that irrelevant. There will be power struggles among themselves. 4 Clans are too few for a stable balance. Sooner or later the Adders will conquer everything and it'll be Coyotes and Lions against the snakes. Cobras are too opportunistic not to side with Adders.

Right. There's a thing in the art of writing loosely called the "gun on the wall". If you show a gun on the wall in an earlier part of a book, it had better get fired before the end.

That's what the Homies are. They are the proverbial gun on the wall.

I expect them to shoot somebody sometime in the future. We just don't know when.

Doc Swift · « **Reply #841 on:** 04 December 2020, 12:16:18 »

Chekhov's Gun: "If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there."

rebs · « **Reply #842 on:** 04 December 2020, 12:19:39 »

Thank you! Yes, Chekhov's Gun.

Very fitting for BattleTech.

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #843 on:** 05 December 2020, 07:39:07 »

Yup. They will appear relevant in the future :thumbsup:

Drewbacca · « **Reply #844 on:** 08 December 2020, 05:05:46 »

I need ideas for painting a Grunt Galaxy Mackie.

Weirdo · « **Reply #845 on:** 08 December 2020, 08:51:01 »

The general assumption (admittedly not hard canon) is the the Castilian Brigada used the same colors as the old Castilian forces. For Grunt units... Given how the Umayyads were sidelined for a while, perhaps their colors for Grunt units?

trboturtle · « **Reply #846 on:** 08 December 2020, 12:51:28 »

Every time I see "Plus Ultra" in this thread, I think of Star Colonel All Might and Star Captain Deku......

Craig
(See "My Hero Academia" for the source of this thought....)

Drewbacca · « **Reply #847 on:** 08 December 2020, 12:59:46 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 08 December 2020, 08:51:01

The general assumption (admittedly not hard canon) is the the Castilian Brigada used the same colors as the old Castilian forces. For Grunt units... Given how the Umayyads were sidelined for a while, perhaps their colors for Grunt units?

I was thinking something along those lines but with a scorpion twist.

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #848 on:** 08 December 2020, 20:52:09 »

Quote from: trboturtle on 08 December 2020, 12:51:28

Every time I see "Plus Ultra" in this thread, I think of Star Colonel All Might and Star Captain Deku......

Craig
(See "My Hero Academia" for the source of this thought....)

Interesting.

Thought "Plus Ultra" was fitting for the Scorpion Empire due to its geography and Castilian heritage

Drewbacca · « **Reply #849 on:** 09 December 2020, 03:43:49 »

So what exactly do the Scorpions have available. Not just what do they predominately use, but what is available to their units?

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #850 on:** 09 December 2020, 08:54:11 »

Do you mean what is in their RATs?

Drewbacca · « **Reply #851 on:** 09 December 2020, 12:45:04 »

Quote from: ArkRoyalRavager on 09 December 2020, 08:54:11

Do you mean what is in their RATs?

Yeah, but comprehensive.

Weirdo · « **Reply #852 on:** 09 December 2020, 15:24:12 »

No way to know. The MUL has yet to be updated to cover them post-WoR. Anything after that is currently useless speculation.

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #853 on:** 09 December 2020, 21:16:20 »

Quote from: Drewbacca on 09 December 2020, 12:45:04

Yeah, but comprehensive.

Then the Imperial RATs in Hanseatic Crusade would be the current best reference.

Weirdo · « **Reply #854 on:** 18 December 2020, 11:24:09 »

Looks like the Scorpions still get around pretty far even in the Dark Age. Battletech Legends has Seeker Galaxy hitting Solaris VII in 3145, winning a trial that got them, along other things, the cockpit of Kerensky's and Kurita's Orion. :thumbsup:

Drewbacca · « **Reply #855 on:** 18 December 2020, 12:15:51 »

Meh. My interest in the game is slowly getting killed by players on the forum. I will just make up my own Scorpions units for my megamek games against the bots.

Weirdo · « **Reply #856 on:** 18 December 2020, 13:08:47 »

Have fun, and the folks who still enjoy this place will continue to do so. Everybody wins.

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #857 on:** 19 December 2020, 08:49:57 »

Quote from: Drewbacca on 18 December 2020, 12:15:51

Meh. My interest in the game is slowly getting killed by players on the forum. I will just make up my own Scorpions units for my megamek games against the bots.

Seyla. AUs are all the rage these days

Nibs · « **Reply #858 on:** 19 December 2020, 16:45:06 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 18 December 2020, 11:24:09

Looks like the Scorpions still get around pretty far even in the Dark Age. Battletech Legends has Seeker Galaxy hitting Solaris VII in 3145, winning a trial that got them, along other things, the cockpit of Kerensky's and Kurita's Orion. :thumbsup:

I just read that part! It's nice seeing the Scorpions involved in the universe again.

Weirdo · « **Reply #859 on:** 19 December 2020, 17:59:27 »

I love that this means that Scorpions can credibly be anywhere and fight anyone. We're like mercenaries, in that it only takes a minor plot hook and we'll come knocking. Don't need a war, or even geographic proximity, just a rumor that something cool might be buried in your backyard.

CJC070 · « **Reply #860 on:** 19 December 2020, 18:48:55 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 19 December 2020, 17:59:27

I love that this means that Scorpions can credibly be anywhere and fight anyone. We're like mercenaries, in that it only takes a minor plot hook and we'll come knocking. Don't need a war, or even geographic proximity, just a rumor that something cool might be buried in your backyard.

Since mercenary units are being wiped out left, right, and centre Scorpion ~~Treasure Hunters~~ Seekers might be the way of future rogue units in the Inner Sphere. Especially if you can get really cool swag like the head of an Orion piloted by one of the greatest Inner Sphere leaders and Alexander Kerensky.

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #861 on:** 21 December 2020, 18:08:47 »

I wonder what the Wolves would trade for that particular head. Considering the history, the Orion IIC, and all that...but the Scorps should keep it and charge the Wolves admission to come visit the museum.

I've always had an attraction to the Scorps since I played them in the FGC way back when, I'm glad to see they didn't just end up puffed into nothing. I suppose it's too much to hope they'll survive into the ilClan era, but we'll see I suppose. Maybe a bit less on the necrosia and a bit more on the Seekers for me, but they're also one of the few clans that doesn't have a dopey dress uniform as well. That's important.

truetanker · « **Reply #862 on:** 21 December 2020, 18:27:21 »

You mean an all grey jumper with a large Red Star and an equally large downward pointing Black Scorpion?

TT

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #863 on:** 22 December 2020, 11:22:43 »

Their Seekers look very cool. Just like...Scorpion and Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat

truetanker · « **Reply #864 on:** 22 December 2020, 19:45:44 »

Eh... I prefer this :

TT :)

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #865 on:** 22 December 2020, 23:20:38 »

That looks more like it belongs to House Kurita.

This is Clan Goliath Scorpion:

https://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=694&ei=8MTiX7qtNNDcz7sP48KS8AQ&q=clan+goliath+scorpion+seeker&oq=clan+goliath+scorpion+seeker&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6BQgAELEDOgIIADoECAAQHjoGCAAQBRAeOggIABAFEAoQHjoGCAAQCBAeOgQIABAYUIkCWOUfYKwhaABwAHgAgAHGA4gB6iKSAQozLjIwLjMuMC4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ved=0ahUKEwi65dDMn-PtAhVQ7nMBHWOhBE4Q4dUDCAY&uact=5#imgrc=kYo64S69fGD4tM

Compare:

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=scorpion+mortal+kombat&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwierIrPn-PtAhWOBHIKHfUoA8cQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=scorpion+&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDOggIABCxAxCDAToCCAA6BQgAELEDOgcIABCxAxBDUNiPA1ikmQNg0qgDaABwAHgAgAHEA4gB4w6SAQkzLjIuMS4yLjGYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=9cTiX97dPI6JyAP10Yy4DA&bih=694&biw=1536&hl=en#imgrc=5Fxkd9ZKaBM_cM

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=sub+zero+mortal+kombat&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjg4cfpn-PtAhV3nksFHS9fCe0Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=submortal+kombat&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgYIABAHEB4yBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQBxAeMgYIABAHEB4yBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQBxAeMgYIABAHEB4yBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQBxAeMgYIABAHEB5Q3b4CWN_HAmCd1AJoAXAAeACAAWaIAfkCkgEDMy4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=LcXiX6CXIPe8rtoPr76l6A4&bih=694&biw=1536&hl=en#imgrc=7vVQGkKCCw32YM

With the Ice Hellions within the Clan, there may very well be a Hellion Seeker code-named Sub Zero ;D

Drewbacca · « **Reply #866 on:** 23 December 2020, 12:36:24 »

Quote from: ArkRoyalRavager on 22 December 2020, 23:20:38

That looks more like it belongs to House Kurita.

This is Clan Goliath Scorpion:

https://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=694&ei=8MTiX7qtNNDcz7sP48KS8AQ&q=clan+goliath+scorpion+seeker&oq=clan+goliath+scorpion+seeker&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6BQgAELEDOgIIADoECAAQHjoGCAAQBRAeOggIABAFEAoQHjoGCAAQCBAeOgQIABAYUIkCWOUfYKwhaABwAHgAgAHGA4gB6iKSAQozLjIwLjMuMC4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ved=0ahUKEwi65dDMn-PtAhVQ7nMBHWOhBE4Q4dUDCAY&uact=5#imgrc=kYo64S69fGD4tM

Compare:

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=scorpion+mortal+kombat&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwierIrPn-PtAhWOBHIKHfUoA8cQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=scorpion+&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDMgQIABBDOggIABCxAxCDAToCCAA6BQgAELEDOgcIABCxAxBDUNiPA1ikmQNg0qgDaABwAHgAgAHEA4gB4w6SAQkzLjIuMS4yLjGYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=9cTiX97dPI6JyAP10Yy4DA&bih=694&biw=1536&hl=en#imgrc=5Fxkd9ZKaBM_cM

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=sub+zero+mortal+kombat&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjg4cfpn-PtAhV3nksFHS9fCe0Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=submortal+kombat&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgYIABAHEB4yBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQBxAeMgYIABAHEB4yBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQBxAeMgYIABAHEB4yBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQBxAeMgYIABAHEB5Q3b4CWN_HAmCd1AJoAXAAeACAAWaIAfkCkgEDMy4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=LcXiX6CXIPe8rtoPr76l6A4&bih=694&biw=1536&hl=en#imgrc=7vVQGkKCCw32YM

With the Ice Hellions within the Clan, there may very well be a Hellion Seeker code-named Sub Zero ;D

I would love to get an STL of a Goliath Scorpion Seeker.

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #867 on:** 23 December 2020, 22:29:00 »

There should be sources elsewhere, online or otherwise. But you can make do with action figures from MK ;)

The moment I saw that Seeker picture in the FM, I knew this was one of my favourite Clans.

Drewbacca · « **Reply #868 on:** 06 January 2021, 06:14:15 »

Here is something that just entered my mind. Are Seekers a Mechwarrior only group or are there elemental and aero seekers as well?

AlphaMirage · « **Reply #869 on:** 06 January 2021, 06:32:07 »

Quote from: Drewbacca on 06 January 2021, 06:14:15

Here is something that just entered my mind. Are Seekers a Mechwarrior only group or are there elemental and aero seekers as well?

Well the existence of the Triton says to me that there are, at least as Yeomen. Nothing that I have ever read of the (quite underutilized) Seeker movement says that other Phenotypes cannot join.