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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #540 on: 10 April 2016, 19:46:55 »
So I'm finally reading TRO 3150. The Roadrunner was... the Emerald Harrier?! That's extremely interesting to me. Can you imagine early Falcon warriors being told that they'll be piloting a 15 ton deathtrap? Not what you expect, though I suppose the post-Culling times were desperate enough to warrant it.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #541 on: 11 April 2016, 07:28:58 »
So I'm finally reading TRO 3150. The Roadrunner was... the Emerald Harrier?! That's extremely interesting to me. Can you imagine early Falcon warriors being told that they'll be piloting a 15 ton deathtrap? Not what you expect, though I suppose the post-Culling times were desperate enough to warrant it.
It's also in XTRO:Republic I, where you find out it was used in more than just the post-culling era.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #542 on: 11 April 2016, 18:55:03 »
So I'm finally reading TRO 3150. The Roadrunner was... the Emerald Harrier?! That's extremely interesting to me. Can you imagine early Falcon warriors being told that they'll be piloting a 15 ton deathtrap? Not what you expect, though I suppose the post-Culling times were desperate enough to warrant it.

Of course not! True Falcons choose the 65-ton deathtrap of the Hellbringer!

(More seriously, I'm guessing the early Falcons went through a period of teenage experimentation. While some might find solace in necrosia, and while the Jaguars were becoming addicted to moustache wax [all the better for moustache twirling], the Falcons tried Hellion-like speed freakery. Unlike the Hellions, the Falcons came out of that rebellious phase - after all, you couldn't mount enough weapons on light 'Mechs to be worthwhile ;) )
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #543 on: 12 April 2016, 10:41:56 »
Of course not! True Falcons choose the 65-ton deathtrap of the Hellbringer!

(More seriously, I'm guessing the early Falcons went through a period of teenage experimentation. While some might find solace in necrosia, and while the Jaguars were becoming addicted to moustache wax [all the better for moustache twirling], the Falcons tried Hellion-like speed freakery. Unlike the Hellions, the Falcons came out of that rebellious phase - after all, you couldn't mount enough weapons on light 'Mechs to be worthwhile ;) )

Refutement, exhibit A:



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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #544 on: 13 April 2016, 12:43:27 »
That's not a Light 'Mech, though, it's a Heavy on a diet.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #545 on: 13 April 2016, 19:17:03 »

How about these little guys, Exhibits B&C:





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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #546 on: 13 April 2016, 21:14:26 »
Refutement, exhibit A:

;)

It was a phase, I said! Like Megatron back in the eighties. I mean, everyone was being a handgun there for a while. So he tried it. It's not a crime if he never inhaled the powder smoke, right?

Jeez ...  ::)
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #547 on: 06 May 2016, 02:51:54 »
MWO's Night Gyr looks impressive.


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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #548 on: 06 May 2016, 05:34:03 »
Gorgeous!   O0

I might even buy this bundle, that Turkina Keshik (i think) camo looks absolutely fantastic.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #549 on: 06 May 2016, 07:53:45 »
Structurally badass, but the paint job looks like that bird just took a most hideous dump. ;D
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« Reply #550 on: 06 May 2016, 08:09:48 »
That is what bondsmen are for  :D

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #551 on: 09 May 2016, 08:02:04 »
Structurally badass, but the paint job looks like that bird just took a most hideous dump. ;D

 [wildandcrazy] :))  hadn't noticed that...until now.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #552 on: 26 May 2016, 06:54:51 »
I have spent very little actual cash on MWO so far, as I don't have a lot of time to play...but...it's the Night Gyr fer cryin' out loud!
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #553 on: 26 May 2016, 19:27:16 »
I prefer the original with its taller shoulder pads and smoother lines. I like the new one's feet and lower legs better but that's all.

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« Reply #554 on: 27 May 2016, 10:00:55 »
Lore for the Night Gyr hero version (Timur Malthus' "Jade Kite") is up.
Features good old Timur on Von Strang's World back in '49, and also his spider sense aka "I have a bad feeling about this"...

https://mwomercs.com/news/2016/05/1553-night-gyr-lore-blueprint
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #555 on: 27 May 2016, 19:10:53 »
3049's a bit premature for the night gyr, is it not? I wonder if Timur's mech was an early test type or production example.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #556 on: 27 May 2016, 20:25:07 »
TRO 3058U states the Night Gyr was developed during the latter stages of Operation Revival, so I guess it's remotely possible that Timur is piloting one of the earliest prototypes.
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« Reply #557 on: 16 June 2016, 15:44:18 »
I just had an epiphany, that I think my fellow Falcons might be well able to make use of, given some of our preferred Omnis.

There are no hot-running flashbulbs. There are only players who don't know/forget the following two facts:

1: TacOps, page 102. You can dial down the output of almost any energy weapon, with heat output also going down at a 1/1 damage/heat ratio.

2: Most Clan energy weapons have damage potential to spare.

A Hellbringer Prime that only cares about movement heat at long range, while slamming out twin 13-point bolts until the cows come home, a Warhawk Prime that can alternate between triple 13-point shots or quad 10-pointers...a Nova that's putting out twelve 5-pointers every round...I think you can see where this is going. ^-^
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #558 on: 16 June 2016, 17:40:49 »
I just had an epiphany, that I think my fellow Falcons might be well able to make use of, given some of our preferred Omnis.

There are no hot-running flashbulbs. There are only players who don't know/forget the following two facts:

1: TacOps, page 102. You can dial down the output of almost any energy weapon, with heat output also going down at a 1/1 damage/heat ratio.

2: Most Clan energy weapons have damage potential to spare.

A Hellbringer Prime that only cares about movement heat at long range, while slamming out twin 13-point bolts until the cows come home, a Warhawk Prime that can alternate between triple 13-point shots or quad 10-pointers...a Nova that's putting out twelve 5-pointers every round...I think you can see where this is going. ^-^

Sound like Spheroid trickery to me!   ;)
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #559 on: 16 June 2016, 17:52:14 »
I call it bidding away kilojoules. :)
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #560 on: 16 June 2016, 18:06:54 »
Genius.
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« Reply #561 on: 16 June 2016, 21:03:16 »
It's only dezgra if your opponent does it first?

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« Reply #562 on: 16 June 2016, 21:07:01 »
No, you have to look at this way.  You're not dialing back your damage to cheese your heat.  You're weakening your attacks to make the fight more interesting.  Or instead, your opponent isn't worthy enough to bother bringing your full potential.
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« Reply #563 on: 16 June 2016, 21:39:29 »
However, all your opponent needs to do is say "Nope, don't agree to this optional rule."

Weirdo, I challenge your un-Falcon-like approach. We do not shy away from the heat of battle! We are Jade Falcon - Falcon Sight sees the advantage of heavier firepower, while Falcon Sweat cools our mighty tactical intellects. We do not shy from burns and death in battle! We do not pretend - like our Care Bear brethren - to embrace coldness, sloth, and inaction! Falcon Talons tear like fiery swords, matching the heat of our cockpits!

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« Reply #564 on: 16 June 2016, 23:35:34 »
Bah! True followers of Turkina know that it is Falcon Skill that has kept us at the pinnacle of Clan Society, and part of skill is knowing how all the buttons in your mech work! Those who know only how to set the throttle to full and mash the alpha strike button belong with the Jaguars.
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« Reply #565 on: 16 June 2016, 23:50:52 »
Bah! True followers of Turkina know that it is Falcon Skill that has kept us at the pinnacle of Clan Society, and part of skill is knowing how all the buttons in your mech work! Those who know only how to set the throttle to full and mash the alpha strike button belong with the Jaguars.

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« Reply #566 on: 17 June 2016, 09:29:27 »
Bingo. You also need to know how to work the radio, in order to cacaw at your opponent properly. Similarly, being able to tune in to the nearest soft jazz station is great for building up a proper Clanlike level of rage at everything around you.
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« Reply #567 on: 17 June 2016, 16:28:18 »
However, all your opponent needs to do is say "Nope, don't agree to this optional rule."

It's all in the delivery.

Jade Falcon Player: "hey, let's play some CBT!"

Lesser Clan Player: "I dunno. You always win."

JFP: "Well there is an optional rule that lets me reduce the damage on some of my energy weapons.  I could play with that."

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JFP:  "muhahahaha, victory is assured!"

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JFP:  "Oh uh, I was saying your victory is assured..."
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« Reply #568 on: 17 June 2016, 17:03:54 »
I believe that is the very definition of 'bargained well and done.' O0
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #569 on: 17 June 2016, 18:13:41 »
However, all your opponent needs to do is say "Nope, don't agree to this optional rule."

Weirdo, I challenge your un-Falcon-like approach. We do not shy away from the heat of battle! We are Jade Falcon - Falcon Sight sees the advantage of heavier firepower, while Falcon Sweat cools our mighty tactical intellects. We do not shy from burns and death in battle! We do not pretend - like our Care Bear brethren - to embrace coldness, sloth, and inaction! Falcon Talons tear like fiery swords, matching the heat of our cockpits!

Who is with me, brethren and sistren of the Turkina!

Your words about the ghost bears hurt sir...i just wanted you to know that sometimes a phrase can do more damage than a orbital strike on a lowly Kurita world  :'( .... Plus some of us Bear players have all ready been using this tactic for months,welcome to being last to the party as always you jade turkeys  :P

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