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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #180 on: 21 February 2015, 15:12:59 »

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #181 on: 21 February 2015, 15:26:42 »
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #182 on: 24 February 2015, 19:58:50 »
fellow Falcons, I call upon you for a quick historical reference  O0 just to make sure

After the beginning of the Pentagon Worlds Civil War, where Nicholas and the 800 relocated to Strana Mechty to re-arm, the Kerensky Cluster was then preliminarily settled, quiaff ?

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The Clans were founded, in CJF's case, Ironhold HQ and colony was set up...before the retaking of the Pentagon was complete or after it ? IE: The Clans were created on Strana Mechty, armed, then hit the Pentagon, then peace and spoils of war, then each Clan got its homeworld ? Also, the first ship to Ironhold, what was that called, reference the Mechwarrior 2 openning video

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #183 on: 24 February 2015, 23:22:53 »
I don't know when precisely Ironhold was settled, but we do know that several worlds in the Kerensky Cluster were settled by the time of the Second Exodus. I believe that Nicky had a policy of resettling populations to Strana Mechty when it was practical, to help centralize his control. The Clans themselves spent almost all of their pre-KLONDIKE training on Strana Mechty(aside from the odd mission reconning the Pentagon, or patrolling the Cluster), so I doubt the Falcons themselves landed on Ironhold in any real numbers until after KLONDIKE.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #184 on: 24 February 2015, 23:34:47 »
The map of the Kerensky Cluster in Operation Klondike has Ironhold, and is for the year 2821 (so, during the operation, duh).  Whether the Falcons had settled there by that point is another question entirely.  I seem to recall that by the Widowmaker Absorption, it was definitely their Capital, but I don't have that pulled up in front of me at this point.
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« Reply #185 on: 25 February 2015, 00:47:55 »
The map of the Kerensky Cluster in Operation Klondike has Ironhold, and is for the year 2821 (so, during the operation, duh).

Or prior to Operation Klondike.
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« Reply #186 on: 25 February 2015, 01:04:12 »
fellow Falcons, I call upon you for a quick historical reference  O0 just to make sure

After the beginning of the Pentagon Worlds Civil War, where Nicholas and the 800 relocated to Strana Mechty to re-arm, the Kerensky Cluster was then preliminarily settled, quiaff ?

Basically for my swtor guild CJF cross over / spin off / conversion, our first RP event is about the Founders of our Clan...

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The Clans were founded, in CJF's case, Ironhold HQ and colony was set up...before the retaking of the Pentagon was complete or after it ? IE: The Clans were created on Strana Mechty, armed, then hit the Pentagon, then peace and spoils of war, then each Clan got its homeworld ? Also, the first ship to Ironhold, what was that called, reference the Mechwarrior 2 openning video

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Given the existence of the "Mountain People" on Ironhold in the Jade Phoenix Trilogy, there's an argument to be made that Ironhold was settled during the Star League in Exile period, then absorbed by Nicholas' new Clans after they established themselves on Strana Mechty.  The mountain people may be descendants of holdouts from the original colony who refused to assimilate.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #187 on: 25 February 2015, 21:46:45 »
Or prior to Operation Klondike.

I meant the map was made during/prior to the Operation, not the settlement.  Ambiguous syntax.  My bad.  Been fighting the plague, so thought processes a little screwier than normal.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #188 on: 21 March 2015, 20:25:45 »
What are the Jade Falcons doing in 3074 through 3076?  After destroying Etienne’s Sanctuary in December 3073, there doesn’t seem to be much going on in the Jihad era for them until Luna (3077) and New Earth (3078). 

I’m trying to think of scenarios for them during this period beyond just trialing other clans for scientists.  They’ve been ejected from the homeworlds by this point, so all their activity is in the Inner Sphere. 

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #189 on: 22 March 2015, 00:33:07 »
March 16-21, 3074 - A Joint Falcon-LAAF task force liberates Coventry.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #190 on: 22 March 2015, 19:47:02 »
did I read that right lol :D
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #191 on: 22 March 2015, 19:50:20 »
If you mean the part where the Falcons and Lyrans worked together, and the end result did not add a world to the Falcon OZ, you read correct.

You shoulda seen the part where the Falcons landed on Tharkad, and they didn't need to be booted out. ;D
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #192 on: 23 March 2015, 12:51:40 »
Falcons played such a minor role in Jihad storyline. Even Free worlds league had more attention and that speaks for itself. :(
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« Reply #193 on: 23 March 2015, 20:34:10 »
Falcons played such a minor role in Jihad storyline. Even Free worlds league had more attention and that speaks for itself. :(

When  you factor the WoR into the overall Jihad story then their part is a lot bigger
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« Reply #194 on: 23 March 2015, 20:38:29 »
When  you factor the WoR into the overall Jihad story then their part is a lot bigger

Also, 'even the Free Worlds League' playing a bigger part? Since the Word had so much of their power based within the League, one could argue that no other nation had a bigger part in the Jihad, beyond the Protectorate themselves. So... yeah, not a surprise.

(As Deadborder notes though, they played a hefty part in the Wars of Reaving going on at the same time, so the relative quiet from the Falcons and Wolves is a little more understandable- they had Horses, Hellions, Society, and all kinds of other problems going on. Screw the fanatics.)
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« Reply #195 on: 23 March 2015, 21:00:04 »
Also, 'even the Free Worlds League' playing a bigger part? Since the Word had so much of their power based within the League, one could argue that no other nation had a bigger part in the Jihad, beyond the Protectorate themselves. So... yeah, not a surprise.

(As Deadborder notes though, they played a hefty part in the Wars of Reaving going on at the same time, so the relative quiet from the Falcons and Wolves is a little more understandable- they had Horses, Hellions, Society, and all kinds of other problems going on. Screw the fanatics.)

I gotta say, I loved me the Falcon Parts of WoR.  Then again, I loved MOST of WoR.
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« Reply #196 on: 24 March 2015, 00:37:28 »
I gotta say, I loved me the Falcon Parts of WoR.  Then again, I loved MOST of WoR.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #197 on: 09 June 2015, 09:04:12 »
One quick question: did Falcons invaded any of Rasalhague worlds during the first wave of revival?
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« Reply #198 on: 09 June 2015, 09:19:53 »
One quick question: did Falcons invaded any of Rasalhague worlds during the first wave of revival?

No; their corridor was purely Lyran worlds.

The Wolves invasion corridor was both Lyran and Rasalhauge worlds. Similarly, the Bears took both Rasalhauge and Combine words.
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« Reply #199 on: 09 June 2015, 09:48:47 »
I gotta say, I loved me the Falcon Parts of WoR.  Then again, I loved MOST of WoR.

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« Reply #200 on: 09 June 2015, 22:18:22 »
Kael Pershaw.  Say no more!

So my brother had gotten me the Jade Phoenix Trilogy as a joke birthday gift.  I gotta say, it did nothing to make Kael Pershaw any less awesome; EVERYONE at Tukayyid, INCLUDING THE FALCON KHANS, were terrified of the man.  He is basically the Sam Vimes of the Jade Falcons.
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« Reply #201 on: 09 June 2015, 22:48:21 »
Okay, some fluff-based advice.

I'm working on some Falcon formations mini-wise. Currently I have a Star's worth of omnis and working on a Star's worth of IIC second-liners, plus about 2 stars of BA, in Delta colours. Would it be likely to see the Omnis & IICs in the same Binary/Trinary? Would the BA be in the same Binary/Trinary as the Omnis>

Second, I have the makings of a Star of heavy/assault 'Mechs of other Clan's signature designs (things like the Kodiak, Ebon Jaguar, Koraken) plus some other choices along these lines. At the moment the Kodiam and Ebon Jaguar are in Mu colours. Does this seem reasonable? Post Refusal War, I can't see the Clan ignoring such Isorla, but would they be seen as prestige due to the weight & capability of the designs, or for assignment to second-string pilots?

Lastly, speak to me of Omega galaxy. I reckon I can do a nice paintjob on them pretty straightforwardly - prime black, drybrush metallic, then green ink the upper torso. Detail & bloody feet, done. Why do Omega choose to flaunt their superiority over the Vipers - where did that all come from? And would my captured assaults fit better in Omega, than Mu?

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #202 on: 09 June 2015, 22:51:24 »
No; their corridor was purely Lyran worlds.

The Wolves invasion corridor was both Lyran and Rasalhauge worlds. Similarly, the Bears took both Rasalhauge and Combine words.

Negative, FRR worlds Quarrell and Jabuka were taken by the Falcons before Tukayyid.
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« Reply #203 on: 09 June 2015, 23:27:06 »
Okay, some fluff-based advice.

I'm working on some Falcon formations mini-wise. Currently I have a Star's worth of omnis and working on a Star's worth of IIC second-liners, plus about 2 stars of BA, in Delta colours. Would it be likely to see the Omnis & IICs in the same Binary/Trinary? Would the BA be in the same Binary/Trinary as the Omnis>

Second, I have the makings of a Star of heavy/assault 'Mechs of other Clan's signature designs (things like the Kodiak, Ebon Jaguar, Koraken) plus some other choices along these lines. At the moment the Kodiam and Ebon Jaguar are in Mu colours. Does this seem reasonable? Post Refusal War, I can't see the Clan ignoring such Isorla, but would they be seen as prestige due to the weight & capability of the designs, or for assignment to second-string pilots?

Before the Refusal War  you would never see a 2ND line mech in frontline clusters. If I remember, Omnimechs are always found in the frontline clusters unless there is a surplus, which gets filtered into the 2nd line troops. There have been some Falcon Novas in fluff, I'm sure.
Lastly, speak to me of Omega galaxy. I reckon I can do a nice paintjob on them pretty straightforwardly - prime black, drybrush metallic, then green ink the upper torso. Detail & bloody feet, done. Why do Omega choose to flaunt their superiority over the Vipers - where did that all come from? And would my captured assaults fit better in Omega, than Mu?

Opinions eagerly sought, trothkin!

Omega Galaxy died along with Mu Galaxy during the Jihad their shattered clusters helping to form the short-lived Alpha Galaxy. Prior to that they were the go-to guys when it came to the Steel Vipers. Considering the hate both Clans had for each other it's a no brainer that Omega likely played a major part in several conflicts/Trials against the Vipers. During the 3130s Omega Galaxy was reformed and helped Malvina gain and maintain ascendency.  Mu Galaxy's composition is harder to divine. I don't think it was a premier force anytime in Falcon history.

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« Reply #204 on: 10 June 2015, 04:34:10 »
Don't forget though that the jade falcons include second line clusters in front line galaxies and front line clusters in second line galaxies.

Mu for example had one front line cluster, 1st Falcon Hussars and three second line, 5th Falcon Regulars and two PGC's, 9th and 10th I think.

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« Reply #205 on: 10 June 2015, 08:48:43 »
Negative, FRR worlds Quarrell and Jabuka were taken by the Falcons before Tukayyid.

The question was about the first wave.

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« Reply #206 on: 10 June 2015, 15:17:34 »
......I thought I had slept enough before I got online.  [metalhealth]

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« Reply #207 on: 14 June 2015, 20:24:05 »
I know Chippewas are sometimes found in Falcon 2nd-line units, but how feasible do you think it'd be for any Chippewa IICs to remain in Falcon service?
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« Reply #208 on: 14 June 2015, 20:31:46 »
Isorla. It is my answer to just about everything. Post Refusal War, there's no way the Clan would ignore reputable equipment, even if it was not what we usually use, quiaff? Assign the Omnis to the ristars, and let the rest use those Kodiaks, Blood Kites and Chippewa IICs captured in honorable combat from less competent opponents.
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« Reply #209 on: 14 June 2015, 20:36:38 »
Especially until production and trade with other Clans made up for losses sustained in the Jihad and subsequent fighting.  Even then it would likely simply be assigned to a second-line or solahma unit depending upon its condition.
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