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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #60 on: 18 November 2014, 20:52:33 »
As much as I'm not a fan of the Falcons (Kael Pershaw excepted, as he is basically the coolest thing in the franchise), I am enjoying this "we're taking the gloves off" stage of the Falcons.  It is interesting, and it does bring in a lot of interesting discussion.

They reached that stage during the Jihad.  Malvina is going beyond that stage towards Amaris level conduct.  Pretty soon the Falcons will have hostages leading the way as they advance on enemy positions.
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« Reply #61 on: 18 November 2014, 20:55:42 »
They reached that stage during the Jihad.  Malvina is going beyond that stage towards Amaris level conduct.  Pretty soon the Falcons will have hostages leading the way as they advance on enemy positions.

Perhaps I should've said them going into Pants-Crapping Insanity was interesting instead.   :D

As dirty as it makes me feel to say it, at this point I'm rooting for Clan Insanity Falcon over the Wolves. 
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #62 on: 18 November 2014, 21:49:07 »
The Mongol Falcons (aka Insanity Falcons, fair enough ;) ) have the whole concentration of focus I liked about the early Jaguars. Might is right, and if it isn't, use more.

And IMHO, it is very Clan to want to live fast, defeat many, hear the lamentation of their families, die young, and leave a trail of devastated planets behind you. None of this caring-sharing Warden business.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #63 on: 18 November 2014, 22:51:53 »
The Mongol Falcons (aka Insanity Falcons, fair enough ;) ) have the whole concentration of focus I liked about the early Jaguars. Might is right, and if it isn't enough, use more.

And IMHO, it is very Clan to want to live fast, defeat many, hear the lamentation of their families, die young, and leave a trail of devastated planets behind you. None of this caring-sharing Warden business.

Corrected.  Who cares whether might is right or not just use it!   >:D  If you are listening to the lamentation of their families then you are a slacker not worthy of being called Clan!  You should already have moved on by the time they started lamenting and be causing more death and destruction!   >:D
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #64 on: 18 November 2014, 23:07:45 »
Sure you are not an Ice Hellion, Archangel? :D Sometimes you just need to take time to smell the roses listen to the lamentations of the defeated. Just to remind yourself of what losers look like   O0
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #65 on: 19 November 2014, 00:10:45 »
Sure you are not an Ice Hellion, Archangel? :D Sometimes you just need to take time to smell the roses listen to the lamentations of the defeated. Just to remind yourself of what losers look like   O0

We KNOW what losers look like. We took a whole bunch of worlds from them in 3049-52.
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« Reply #66 on: 19 November 2014, 00:27:02 »
We KNOW what losers look like. We took a whole bunch of worlds from them in 3049-52.

The Lyrans aren't losers.  They're...winning impaired.
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« Reply #67 on: 19 November 2014, 00:52:01 »
The Lyrans aren't losers.  They're...winning impaired.

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« Reply #68 on: 19 November 2014, 03:42:45 »
Sure you are not an Ice Hellion, Archangel? :D Sometimes you just need to take time to smell the roses listen to the lamentations of the defeated. Just to remind yourself of what losers look like   O0

The problem with that is that the stench of defeat gets everywhere and unfortunately easily overwhelms the sweet smell of victory.   ;D
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« Reply #69 on: 19 November 2014, 10:44:05 »
The Lyrans aren't losers.  They're...winning impaired.

They explains Katherine...

I do wonder when the Falcons will falter: I don't see them able to keep up this pace forever... and whether they crush Stone and Terra before they do.

Or if they nuke it, just to see how the other clans react.

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« Reply #70 on: 19 November 2014, 13:36:39 »
BT has a pretty clear history and “morality” (if it can be called that).  Factions, other than great houses in the succession wars, that participate in total warfare, are declared evil, ganged-up-on and annihilated.  The end is near for the JFs.  Of course without us, who would contain the evil of the wolves? 

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« Reply #71 on: 19 November 2014, 15:54:59 »
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« Reply #72 on: 19 November 2014, 18:06:43 »
I admit a certain level of disspointment on hearing that the Full Moon had been sold for scrap. I was hoping the Falcons had blown it up instead.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #73 on: 19 November 2014, 18:08:25 »
The Jade Falcons have already suffered two big setbacks at Tharkad and Hesperus II.  Combined with her other "activities", those defeats along with her other actions have cost her the support of her cannon fodder...err...allies, Clan Hell's Horses.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #74 on: 19 November 2014, 18:28:23 »
I admit a certain level of disspointment on hearing that the Full Moon had been sold for scrap. I was hoping the Falcons had blown it up instead.

When did that happen?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #75 on: 19 November 2014, 19:17:22 »
The Jade Falcons have already suffered two big setbacks at Tharkad and Hesperus II.  Combined with her other "activities", those defeats along with her other actions have cost her the support of her cannon fodder...err...allies, Clan Hell's Horses.

As the chief proponent of ablative reconnaisance ("Send out the cheap VTOLs, then where you see smoke from burning wreckage you know where the enemy is"), I wholeheartedly endorsed Malvina's use of ablative allies.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #76 on: 20 November 2014, 00:17:06 »
As the chief proponent of ablative reconnaisance ("Send out the cheap VTOLs, then where you see smoke from burning wreckage you know where the enemy is"), I wholeheartedly endorsed Malvina's use of ablative allies.

Fletch, throw yourself between me and those gauss rounds again, if you please?

Nice knowing ya, Fletch!

(Also, can the phrase "ablative allies" show up in a canon work somewhere?  Because it's REALLY awesome!)
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« Reply #77 on: 20 November 2014, 01:12:14 »
Nice knowing ya, Fletch!

(Also, can the phrase "ablative allies" show up in a canon work somewhere?  Because it's REALLY awesome!)

Why did I pick a Hellbringer ...

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #78 on: 20 November 2014, 01:21:44 »
Why did I pick a Hellbringer ...

Why WOULDN'T you pick a Hellbringer?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #79 on: 20 November 2014, 01:25:07 »
Why WOULDN'T you pick a Hellbringer?

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« Reply #80 on: 20 November 2014, 01:28:21 »
"The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls" - Nightsky
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #81 on: 20 November 2014, 09:27:37 »
Hellbringer never disappoints.  It may go down, but it always gets the job done.   A truly underrated mech.  I especially like the A and E configurations, though I have yet to try the E. 

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #82 on: 20 November 2014, 10:09:21 »
I remember one of the first times my group got together to play.  I was all hyped to use a loki because it was such an awesome mech.  Once I looked at the armor diagram I quickly started to question where and how I had decided it was an awesome mech.  ???
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« Reply #83 on: 20 November 2014, 10:39:47 »
No doubt it’s under-armored.  But it’s built on the same philosophy as the Kit Fox.  The best defense is a strong offense.   You are supposed to use its incredible firepower to overwhelm the enemy so fast they don’t have time to take advantage of your thin armor.  Just don’t use the prime config.  It’s too under heat-sinked to do this. 

I was a bit disappointed that the Dark Age variant didn't take advantage of the opportunity to install modular armor to alleviate the criticisms. 

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« Reply #84 on: 20 November 2014, 11:22:02 »
I've never understood the hate for the Prime. It's a fast pair of headcappers that are boosted by a TarComp and Probe, and protected by ECM and AMS. What's not to love? Okay, you have to maintain your fire discipline to avoid melting, but that just serves to drive down the BV! :)
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« Reply #85 on: 20 November 2014, 15:33:21 »
I've never understood the hate for the Prime. It's a fast pair of headcappers that are boosted by a TarComp and Probe, and protected by ECM and AMS. What's not to love? Okay, you have to maintain your fire discipline to avoid melting, but that just serves to drive down the BV! :)

Wait a mech with good long range damage, good speed, a targeting computer for picking out weakened locations, bad armor, and not enough heat sinks.

I want to marry that mech. The only thing that could make me like it more if it was ammo dependent without enough ammo.
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« Reply #86 on: 20 November 2014, 15:56:34 »
The loki.  For when you absolutely positively need something to blame your lose on.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #87 on: 20 November 2014, 16:57:39 »
The loki.  For when you absolutely positively need something to blame your lose on.

*cough* Hellbringer *cough*

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #88 on: 20 November 2014, 17:24:01 »
Okay, here's another discussion. As proud and true Falcons, what is your emotional favourite 'Mech in a weight class, and why?

For the heavies, give me a Summoner C. This is my boom stick. Okay, I'm not the most tactically sound player - "hey diddle diddle, straight down the middle" is my forte - and this 'Mech plays to that. Enough mobility and armour to get into trouble, and a large gun to get me out of it. Let us face it, Trothkin, the Summoner C is what the Lyrans would like to have in their recon lances, quiaff?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #89 on: 20 November 2014, 17:42:31 »
Medium for me and specifically the Stormcrow B, happiness is getting behind someone and managing to double tap the ultra 20 into the centre rear torso.

 

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