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There's more to it, but each Khanate is the rough equivalent of a Galaxy and each Aimag, the rough equivalent of a Cluster. I say rough because there's a fixed number of Khanates (5) and each Khanate has a fixed number of Aimags (5). Where in any other Clan you see the numbers of Clusters and Galaxies rise and fall as the Clan builds or shrinks its touman, it's the size of the Sea Fox Aimags that get bigger or smaller.
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We still have no comment on if the Sea Foxes are still cheating on their accounting though...

In the past a Diamond Shark Galaxy could be twice as large as another clans Galaxy. So sometimes on paper it seemed like you had a few clusters coming at you and in practice twice as many units were landing.
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Which is why it is funny when the enemy commander doesn't actually read your bids, just skimming the summary.

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Which is why it is funny when the enemy commander doesn't actually read your bids, just skimming the summary.

It actually wouldn't be surprising considering that many rival Clans looked upon them with disdain due to them allowing their lower castes (especially the merchant caste) undue influence in areas beyond their station.
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Actually I think the numbers were running that a Aimag was really 2 or 3 of the old clusters.  Which makes sense if they are down to 5 khanates because they had more than that for number of galaxies- basically I think I remember folks talking about a khanate being a frontline galaxy & spina galaxy . . . but we are also not told how the Fox worlds are actually garrisoned.  Is that where the garrison clusters went?  To places like the Chainlaines, Ibatianta, etc.
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We don't talk about the Chainlaines. *Deploys Watch Agents*
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Where are all the Sharks and Foxes hiding? Recent events have put me in touch with my inner merchant and I thought I would see who was around to represent my first faction.

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I think they will come back out soon. :) Once Ilclan comes out. Just not much to talk about right now.

We always welcome anot her recruit to the good guys though. How are you?
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Every time I watch Shark Tank on TV, I picture them as a DS/SF batchall in a biding war!

And when I watch Tanked, the aquarium builders, I think of them as Aerojocks describing a ToP.

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Two things: Reading the book that came with Solaris Map Pack, I am not surprised in that a good number of the Clansmen who have neem identified as involved in the fights are Sharks.

Secondly, where do I find info on the post Jihad Foxes?

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Thanks.

Question time: What is the best Fox/Shark mech per era?


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From which TRO is the Tiberoun?
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Thank you.

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Hey, everyone, I was reading through this thread and various sourcebooks, to catch up on my knowledge of all things DiamondFox when I found myself asking myself a few questions. Unfortunately I could not find answers, so I thought I would check with you all. Both came from rereading FM:WC.

1. What ever happened to the Ristar Jasmin of the Yungs. Did she get a mention in Updates or just the one in FM:WC?

2. Looking at the Cluster designations I am assuming that "Combined" means Aero and Mech forces, Assault is the equivalent of Heavy Assault units, a mix of Heavy and Assault mechs or asf, Strike is a mix of Heavy and Mediums like Striker units, but what about Cruiser. I do not remember seeing this designation anywhere else, and I get the feeling it is more along the lines or a Hussar or Light Horse but mech or aerospace based, but I would like to know for sure. THere does not seem to be any description of what makes a Cruiser Cluster anywhere.

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She commands Emerald Skate, and Emerald Skate was in FM:Updates, pg. 77.

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Hope it helps?

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Can anyone take a stab what Shark-Raven relations are like in the post-3075 time frame?
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Ravens need stuff

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Simple.
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Ravens need stuff

Sharks sell stuff

Simple.

No Ravens break their stuff, and then Sharks sell them stuff that doesn't include the ammo or extra weapon pods or even the cost of shipping fees!

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Can anyone take a stab what Shark-Raven relations are like in the post-3075 time frame?

There was the great warship swap as well.

I think the Shark-Foxes and Ravens are both pretty pragmatic about their relations. Largely indifferent, cooperate when necessary.


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Even back when they were "rivals", to the extent that the Sharkfoxes actually HAVE any of those, I remember FM Warden Clans describing them as willing to do business with each other.  Granted, they were not feeling like they were going to be bosom chums at any point, but alienating everyone completely is bad for business.

Man, I should try to track down another copy/PDF of that.
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I love how in the dark age unit listings there are all these mechs that the owner has because Clan Sea Fox won it in a fight somewhere and then sold it to them.

Fight a trial against some Ghost Bears. Take a Kodiak as isorla. Sell it to some dude in the Lyran Commonwealth...
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Hello everyone. I am normally an Inner Sphere Merc/Davion player, but I want to build a Sea Fox Star for the Dark Age. Due to their connections with Julian Davion, I was planning on building a Tiburon Khanate Star. Other than the fact that it is a light star and Tiburon Khanate prefers heavier forces, does this star seem reasonable?
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All of these units are on the Sea Fox Dark Age MUL, but I am not sure if some of them would not be available to Tiburon Khanate in particular. Thanks for the help.
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Seems entirely reasonable to me. There's not enough info to say if any one Khanate has access to any specific designs, so I'd say that any "Sea Fox" 'Mech fits with Tiburon. Besides, you have the Crimson Languar, and that's awesome in and of itself.
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Tiburon Khanate is pretty well off. They're not Ilkhanate or anything. But in the MechWarrior Unit documentation there was all sorts of hardware people had they bought from Clan Sea Fox that Clan Sea Fox won from fighting someone else.

So to be honest you can run practically anything.

The Grendel is still on the RAT. But that thing is a relic. They made it out on Arcadia before the Reavings and it hasn't gotten a new variant in a long time. Considering practically nobody is using Highlander IIC's anymore either I imagine that production line is done. Gotta spend the money for custom replacement parts. haha

The Crimson Langur isn't one of ours and isn't on the RAT anymore. So if that is in your Star it's someones Isorla and is gonna be harder to source parts for than the Grendel.

The Koshi is fine. Though you should also look at Koshi 2's because we make them. But Koshi 2's aren't exactly front line unit material.

Clan Sea Fox also makes the Solitaire. But the rest of our lights are kind of a mixed bag. 3050+ we were relying a lot on the Adder but no idea where we were getting them. 3058 and it's all Hankyu's, Adder's and Hellions.

It's probably just the nature of having 20+ clans and Clan Diamond Shark technically being a home clan. But they're just never fluffed as making any Light Mechs until the Tiburon. (And the Soltaire and Koshi 2) so before that I imagine everything is down to sweet trade deals. Why build at home when apparently all the Snake Clans have dirt cheap labor.
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I guess to extrapolate on that a bit. Clan Sea Fox just doesn't make mechs. Not in 3050 or 3055. We're a Mad Dog Clan during Operation Revival. But everybody sort of is. Or maybe you just don't have to worry about making your own mechs when you sell Harjel to everybody.

I think our oldest documented mech is the Thresher... and it's an awful progenitor of the Summoner. We primarily built it to torture the population of Strato Domingo who have to manufacture it. It's true. Canon, look it up. (Don't.)

The Grendel and the Piranha are the first Diamond Shark mechs I know of in writing.

I think the Ha Otoko came next but was a cheap mech to sell to the Inner Sphere.

TRO - 3055 - We make Warhammer IIC's, Rifleman IIC's and Pheonix Hawk IIC's.
TRO - 3058 - Mongrel (Grendel) (facility that makes it is gone though.)
TRO - 3058 - Piranha
TRO - 3058 - Thresher
TRO - 3060 - Highlander IIC (From the same plant that brought you the Grendel.)
TRO - 3060 - Ha Otoko
TRO - 3067 - Mad Cat Mk II.
TRO - 3075 gives us the Crimson Hawk. Which is a light mech.
TRO - 3085 - Dasher II
TRO - 3145 - Koshi
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TRO - 3145- Stalking Spider II
TRO - 3145 - Mad Cat MK IV
TRO - 3145- Vulture Mk IV
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Everything else we get through blood and harjel lads. 

Update.... The Cave Lion ya'll.

It's also hard to say if we make Wendigo's or just have all of them.
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