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Been trying to get onto the boards, but I just recently got the money to actually buy some books (FM: 3085, Reunification Wars, and Wars of Reaving).  Starting my crash-course in WTF has happened!
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Been trying to get onto the boards, but I just recently got the money to actually buy some books (FM: 3085, Reunification Wars, and Wars of Reaving).  Starting my crash-course in WTF has happened!

Wars of Reaving and WTF happened in the same sentence???

Hope you have a change of underwear handy >:D


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Maybe the Foxes can design an improved iron womb.

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Maybe the Foxes can design an improved iron womb.

"Guaranteed identical twins every time!" "Double up on your best bloodlines!"

Um, no.  Why, you ask?  Aleksandr and Malvina Hazen.
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Been trying to get onto the boards, but I just recently got the money to actually buy some books (FM: 3085, Reunification Wars, and Wars of Reaving).  Starting my crash-course in WTF has happened!
Prepare for some real awesome sauce from the Sharks. 
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Um, no.  Why, you ask?  Aleksandr and Malvina Hazen.
The fact they're different sexes means they're not identical twins...

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The fact they're different sexes means they're not identical twins...

They're not even identical for that; they look nothing alike, a fact that was pointed out repeatedly in Flight of the Falcon
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My word, this has fallen to the second page. Where have all the Sharkies gone.....

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.... long time passing.

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Quick! Someone pour some bloo...er, I mean, money into the water.  That should make them surface.
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Quick! Someone pour some bloo...er, I mean, money into the water.  That should make them surface.

HA!  Funny!

Now seriously where'd you go we need to buy some more big stompy toys.


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Sadly, that's not even my best joke...
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Hello?  Anyone here?  <drops a few Kerensky's into the water> 

Well, I'm officially making a Sharks force.  I added an OpFor for my I.S. and figured I need one for the Clans too.  The Sharks won out.  Anybody wanna celebrate with me?
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Someone mentioned falling Kerensky's?
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In the past, I've had bad luck with the Grendel.  I'm hoping in my new Shark unit, things will work out better for it.  I've pulled a Trinary from my Horses to build a Shark Gamma Galaxy force.
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The Grendel is a beast against IS Regulars.... against Clan Elites, well, that mobility doesn't give it quite the same edge and it can be pasted.


So aside from the Grendel, what Omni's are the Sharks known for &/or helped create ?
IIRC they did help w/ the Coyote originals, but I'm looking for more common models.

I know some of the 2nd Line units are Shark built but I'm looking for Omni's specifically.
I'm changing from a full wolf cluster down to a Trinary of the same paint scheme & using the rest to create stars of other clans.

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The Grendel's a nice enough 'mech. I think it's biggest weakness was being in the same weight class and the same TRO as the Shadow Cat, a mech that's a trillion times more popular and, being fair, somewhat better looking. Kinda gets overshadowed and all.
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The biggest disadvantage I can see is that, at that time, it wasn't the Stormcrow.  After my first game with a Stormcrow, I was asking myself why you'd want anything else.

I dunno.  The Grendels got all the hallmarks of being a solid mech.  I've just never had a good run with it. 
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The biggest disadvantage I can see is that, at that time, it wasn't the Stormcrow.  After my first game with a Stormcrow, I was asking myself why you'd want anything else.

I dunno.  The Grendels got all the hallmarks of being a solid mech.  I've just never had a good run with it.

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The Grendel's a nice enough 'mech. I think it's biggest weakness was being in the same weight class and the same TRO as the Shadow Cat, a mech that's a trillion times more popular and, being fair, somewhat better looking. Kinda gets overshadowed and all.
I think the Grendel's biggest weakness is it's omni pods. It's got a good chassis, good speed/movement profile, and it's got some decent variants, but like the Gargoyle, there's something similar that does things better b/c of the pods. For the movement profile, most people will pick a Viper, and for the firepower it's a Stormcrow. Would most people think it's not so good if the Prime had dropped the missiles and gone with pulse lasers instead of ER versions? The A is just the reverse, swap the Pulse Laser for a pair of ER's. The place where you get into big trouble is the ones with autocannons, they are generally too heavy for a chassis this size. I like the H variant, just get an improved HLL is all.

The Grendel is a beast against IS Regulars.... against Clan Elites, well, that mobility doesn't give it quite the same edge and it can be pasted.

So aside from the Grendel, what Omni's are the Sharks known for &/or helped create ?
IIRC they did help w/ the Coyote originals, but I'm looking for more common models.

I know some of the 2nd Line units are Shark built but I'm looking for Omni's specifically.
I'm changing from a full wolf cluster down to a Trinary of the same paint scheme & using the rest to create stars of other clans.
Well, looking at TROs, there's also the Huntsman, it's only 5 tons heavier, but b/c it's slower, it has 10 more tons of podspace, and moving 5/8/5 the two can work in a big-brother, little-brother role supporting each other. That's the only other one I specifically saw to be used in significant numbers by the Sharks. Another goo place to look for ideas is the 3072 RATs in WoRS.
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I've found that bringing the Ryoken into any argument is futile. It's an ender, a finality. If you ask for opinions on Clan Medium Omnis, you want to specifically exclude it.
Not necessarily.  If I'm choosing between a Pariah and a Stormcrow, I'll take the Pariah all day long.  But my first encounter with Clan mediums, I had a Grendel and my friend brought a Stormcrow B.  Did I ever bring a knife to a gun fight.  It took me being unfortunate enough to close with him once and the Grendel bought the farm. 

Interestingly enough, a mech I became fond of before I decided to start up a Sharks force is the Mad Cat Mk.II.  I was surprised about how very solid this mech is.
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Not necessarily.  If I'm choosing between a Pariah and a Stormcrow, I'll take the Pariah all day long.

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So aside from the Grendel, what Omni's are the Sharks known for &/or helped create ?
IIRC they did help w/ the Coyote originals, but I'm looking for more common models.

I know some of the 2nd Line units are Shark built but I'm looking for Omni's specifically.

The same question i raised a while back. There is only the Grendel where i found confirmed production by the Sharks.
It seems they make their business with lots of great secondliners to buy all needed Omnis.

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Even if you have to carry elementals around?
Yeah, even if I have to carry BA.  The Pariah has more powerful configs. 

So besides the Ha Otoko, Grendel, Mad Cat Mk.II, Solitaire, and the Whammie IIc, what else do the Sharks produce?
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Mad Cat Mk III, several Shadow Hawk IIC variants, Rifleman IIC 8.

If you want to venture beyond the ground bound, they also make the Ammon and small numbers of the Ammon-XR
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They also make (will make?) the non-Omni versions of the Black Hawk and Koshi. Plus they make a variety of versions of the Pixie IIC (at least 4 through to 8) and the Griff IIC 5

On a related note, having played with the Mad Cat Mk II Enhanced, I'm beginning to think that it might have been better off with ER PPCs or regular Large Pulses then the Large ER Pulses. But that might jsut be me.
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Since I couldn't leave well enough alone in the quest for an additional Diamond Shark omni ...
The Cauldron-Born shows up on the FM:3085 RAT* with a decent frequent. The Ha Otoko (including variants) is the only heavy that shows up with a higher frequency. I wouldn't be bowled over to find the Sharks as the IS source for that omni once Objectives: The Clans is released.

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