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Kitsune413

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I think using Alpha Galaxy for the fighting on Babylon is probably a safe assumption.

Field manual updates has them posted there. But thats 3067. By 3069 it says that the homeworlds are mostly defended by second line and solahma warriors.

Though later on when the society strikes a deathstrike cluster is present on world and is subsequently overwhelmed by coyote forces.
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You know what our Evil plan should be? Taking over the homeworlds. Thats what we should use our money for. When they attack the Inner Sphere. We should go take their planets. They stabbed Labov in the neck and I'm still not good with that.
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You know what our Evil plan should be? Taking over the homeworlds. Thats what we should use our money for. When they attack the Inner Sphere. We should go take their planets. They stabbed Labov in the neck and I'm still not good with that.

Ummm.... a cluster of crappy worlds in the middle of nowhere? Seriously? I just don't see the upside in that. Even as a PR stunt it's not very compelling.

"They" who stabbed Angus Labov are all dead. Of old age if nothing else. The last thing that went through Brett Andrews's mind was his own nose, courtesy of the Star Adders. His Steel Vipers were annihilated. You've got some dezgra Coyotes who were massacred, and a rump Hell's Horses. The Cobras and Star Adders didn't do more than token damage to the clan, which I see as strictly business. You've got a collection of Clans left in the homeworlds that were more allies than enemies for most of their histories, even during the Wars of Reaving.

Even if there was anyone or any Clan left that the Diamond Sharks had a grievance against, pursuing century-old grudges is an expensive distraction.

In the BT universe, staying safe and prosperous is more than enough of an Evil Plan for me. ComStar had the winning formula until they started coming up with zany schemes like that. I'm willing to fight to the very last Jade Falcon to re-take the Homeworlds, and no more. (And I'm not 100% convinced that the Sea Foxes have abandoned contact with the Homeworlds in any event.)

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It had enough resources to begin a rather dangerous Dire Wolf export business to the Inner Sphere. (Talking about Operation Revival. Not an actual trade.)

but I agree. Andrews did get his. To bad we didn't get in on that action.
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Perhaps after the Combine went to the trouble dismantling the Nova Cat's military industry, the Sea Foxes showed up and issued a Trial of Possession for the equipment and schematics.  It makes sense for a couple of reasons:

The Foxes would gain equipment and access to some nice designs which do appear to be popular throughout the Inner Sphere according to ER:3145.  Another advantage would be to keep the Combine from making the former Nova Cat equipment and not lose market share for Clan equipment.

Better you guys get it than the Snakes. A design like the Shadow Cat deserves to live on, and not in the hands of a Successor Lord.

You know what our Evil plan should be? Taking over the homeworlds. Thats what we should use our money for. When they attack the Inner Sphere. We should go take their planets. They stabbed Labov in the neck and I'm still not good with that.

On a secondary tangent, and by way of the Vipers being my second Clan, Brett Andrews was a psychotic trashborn who should've been culled in the creche. Labov was a decent guy, for a merchant.  :)

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It had enough resources to begin a rather dangerous Dire Wolf export business to the Inner Sphere. (Talking about Operation Revival. Not an actual trade.)

but I agree. Andrews did get his. To bad we didn't get in on that action.

With four clans still alive and well, it's a very costly action to take for something they could possibly do just as well elsewhere. 

A lot of Clans got b-b-b-burned by the Vipers big time.  No one expected that they would shunt all their extra resources home to concentrate there.  As pointed out by the WoR, the Falcons simply expedited the process that unfolded by ejecting the Vipers from the IS and provided a nominal focus for their aggression. 

The Ravens wanted to destroy the Zalman, so did the Sharks, both failed, as did the Falcons.  That would have been a trophy kill for any Clan.

All we can all do is rejoice that the rest of the Home Clans wised up enough to destroy the Vipers.
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Ever wonder if we have so many entries in Mercenaries Technical Readout because... we are kind of mercenaries right now?
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Ever wonder if we have so many entries in Mercenaries Technical Readout because... we are kind of mercenaries right now?

Nope, never wondered about that at all.  >:D

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Judging by the Nagasawa fluff and the Julian Davion escort I get the feeling we aren't great friends with the Confederation...
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We'll probably find a way to endear ourselves to the Cappies, then when everything looks like PeaceTech for the Sea Foxes, that's when the trouble will start.   

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Judging by the Nagasawa fluff and the Julian Davion escort I get the feeling we aren't great friends with the Confederation...

But your friendship with the Federated Suns in its dark hour of need will not be forgotten by this son of the suns!
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But your friendship with the Federated Suns in its dark hour of need will not be forgotten by this son of the suns!

Friendship? The Foxes aren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts, y'know.

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No, they're doing it for three planets. Which is a small price to pay for the liberation of the worlds stolen from us. At the least, I know the Foxes will not abuse the citizenry of the worlds they have been paid.

But, I still consider them a friend in a dark hour.
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A strategically placed kind gesture in exchange for three very huge warehouse planets.  They could be scattered along Periphery March.  Good, so much the better actually for spreading out, and close to the Periphery and pirates to keep the combat skills sharp.

And trade relations will deepen, maybe the Sea Foxes get involved with finding Tausen...  that would be so huge - as long as uncovering it does not signal everyone near by's doom...   

And were the Foxes go, other Clans may come.  The Wolves are positioned to be of possible benefit to the Suns now too, especially in the event that Fortress Republic coming down is a deadly thing, their new spot could be great to help counter punch anything that arises from that area that might threaten the Suns. 

The players are migrating to new positions.  New stories will be told.  Times are good.   

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Right. just because something's business doesn't mean that it can't be cordial, after all. as a business owner myself, the best client is a happy client whom I enjoy working with, who will call me again when they need my services.
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Hmm. in Atow the Warrior Merchant field says that Warrior Merchants are inactive warriors who want to advance the clan through less brutal means.

But 'Hunters of the Deep', ER 3145 and TRO: Mercenaries makes it pretty obvious that they are merchants and warriors concurrently. No rules in the ER:3145 sections talk about this though.

Any thoughts? Maybe I should post this in the roleplaying section or the ask the developers section.
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IMO a Warrior-Merchant is exactly what AToW says with Angus Labov before he rejoined the warrior caste, or Barbara Sennet after she stepped down as Khan being prime examples.  This does not mean that active warriors cannot also be mercantile and work on deals such as Faulk with the Crimson Hawk development.

In universe, I imagine what the Sharks/Foxes consider a Warrior-Merchant is different from what everyone outside the clan would consider one.

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So, when do the Foxes add a new Sharknado Khanate? ;D
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IMO a Warrior-Merchant is exactly what AToW says with Angus Labov before he rejoined the warrior caste, or Barbara Sennet after she stepped down as Khan being prime examples.  This does not mean that active warriors cannot also be mercantile and work on deals such as Faulk with the Crimson Hawk development.

In universe, I imagine what the Sharks/Foxes consider a Warrior-Merchant is different from what everyone outside the clan would consider one.

I'm pretty sure that this changes as Clan Sea Fox changes. I think Clan Diamond Shark warrior merchants were guys who had retired to the merchant caste.

But Clan Sea Fox doesn't fight as much as other Clans. So I'm pretty sure their Warrior Merchants are just bored warriors. If you look at the notable personalities entries in FM3145, its a bunch of Clan Trueborn Warriors who have higher merchant ratings than combat ratings.

I'm still looking forward to Antoinette and her insane strategy skill on that ship named after a Ghost Ship.
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So, when do the Foxes add a new Sharknado Khanate? ;D



I was saving that particular idea for a rainy day, but a sunny one with fair temperatures will do.   ;D

Saw it when it debuted at my local watering hole, which was the perfect place to see it.  Everyone present that evening was loud and sometimes cheering, sometimes heckling, sometimes both in the same breath.  It was great fun, and I took a taxi home  O0  because I don't want to end up as the guy who has to ride a scooter/moped everywhere, I like my drivers license and my truck.  9 bucks for fare, or 10k for the right to surrender my license and sit at meetings that I don't belong at for years on threat of incarceration.  No contest.  It's only a 30 minute walk, even at full-on drunk mode with no cash. 

OK, that's neither here nor there...  An elite Galaxy/Khanate called the Sharknados could only be a boon to our faction.  I'm in favor of it.   O0
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Maybe an elite Blackwater Navy unit.  A WarShip with several Aesirs and a couple hundred ASF or something.
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I was thinking that too.  Lots of assault droppers and lots more ASF, maybe a new totem 'mech or two for ground forces, and plenty of Shark/Fox Elementals.  All of them deployed in dramatic air-drops or orbital insertion.   O0

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we need one of those new pretty Omni fighters.. and to stop using the aerospace fighter phenotype. so strange.
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we need one of those new pretty Omni fighters.. and to stop using the aerospace fighter phenotype. so strange.

Why is the aerospace phenotype strange?
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Why is the aerospace phenotype strange?
Because they steal cows from remote OA farms?

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Because they steal cows from remote OA farms?

Phft, that's only a rumour... or a handfull of deviants... or... shut up :P     
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It's not theft, it's a Trial of Possession.  For delicious cow meats.
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Why is the aerospace phenotype strange?

Because they're a failure when it comes to their primary mission of "spare kickstand." :P
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What I find interesting is that people usually declare the aerospace phenotype a failure based most often off the performance of the Ghost Bears against Rasalhague.  This is funny because the Ghost Bears specifically do not use the aerospace phenotype.
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