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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1110 on: 01 May 2020, 22:38:26 »
Any thoughts of putting in an "OmniVehicle" subtype? There's an OmniMech and OmniFighter subtype.

It's possible to filter it now if you put 'omni" in the AlphaStrike abilities, but its certainly not userfriendly.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1111 on: 07 May 2020, 14:25:19 »
i noticed a lot of the TRO 3075 Age of War mechs (Toro, Jackrabbit, Icarus II, etc) have a gap in availability status for the Late Succession Wars eras.

some seem like no brainers to intuit like the Toro, which was extinct both in the early succession wars and clan invasion (a resurrection during the late succession wars seems unlikely). Others like the Icarus II or Koschei survived into the early succession wars. are those also extinct by ~2900 or is it possible enough of some remained intact into the 31st century?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1112 on: 07 May 2020, 18:09:11 »
Those eras were on my todo list before I had to focus on RL but we really needed Golden Age TRO to come out so we could handle the clan side at the same time.


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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1114 on: 08 May 2020, 17:44:52 »
Black Hawk U uses the old artwork (unlike all other configurations)

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/344/black-hawk-nova-u

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1115 on: 09 May 2020, 11:18:02 »
Is the disappearance of G1 clan omnis from the IS General list (and from IS armies in general) after the jihad an intentional move or a case or data not yet entered?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1116 on: 10 May 2020, 20:35:05 »
The Crusader -1R, -2R, -3D, -3K, -3L, -3R (Crael), -4BR, -4D, -4K, and -4L all use the art for the CRD-8L variant instead of the Unseen silhouette.

The Goliath -6M and -6H variants should have their art swapped; the -6M should have the TRO art, while the -6H should have the Unseen silhouette.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1117 on: 11 May 2020, 08:28:10 »
The Bug-Eye is listed in the MUL as having 61,000t. It only should have 6,100t.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1118 on: 11 May 2020, 08:53:00 »
here's a weird one. under Units i searched for mechs that debuted between 2571-2780. when sorting by intro date, the SWD-2 Swordsman showed up at the top. its intro date is 2482. at the other end, the Highlander HGN-732 (Jorgensson) was at the end of the list with an out-of-range intro of  2829.




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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1119 on: 11 May 2020, 10:24:44 »
The Longbow LGB-14C and LGB-14C2 should share the same art; at the moment, the LGB-14C has the unseen silhouette, while the -14C2 has the art from TRO:3085.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1120 on: 11 May 2020, 10:33:16 »
The Marauder MAD-6L currently has no art; I would recommend reusing the art from the MAD-5L.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1121 on: 11 May 2020, 10:44:12 »
For the Marauder IIC:
-The Marauder IIC (Standard) and Marauder IIC 8 should both have the Unseen Silhouette.
-The Marauder IIC 3 is missing its art from the variant art section of TRO: Project Phoenix.
-The Marauder IIC 7 is missing its art from TRO:3085.

The Phoenix Hawk IIC 6 and Phoenix Hawk IIC 8 are both lacking art; I'd recommend reusing the Phoenix Hawk IIC 7 art in both cases.

The Rifleman RFL-6D and Rifleman RFL-9T are both lacking art; I'd recommend reusing the Rifleman RFL-6X art for the RFL-6D, and the new Rifleman redesign art for the RFL-9T.

The Stinger STG-5G, STG-5M, STG-5T, and STG-5Gb are all missing art. They should all use the new Stinger redesigned art.

The Valkyrie VLK-QD4 is missing art; I'd recommend using the TRO:3085 VLK-QT2 art.
« Last Edit: 11 May 2020, 13:31:02 by GreekFire »
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1122 on: 11 May 2020, 18:07:28 »
The Wolverine WVR-9M still uses the unseen silhouette, it should be changed for the new Wolverine reimagined art.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1123 on: 12 May 2020, 02:13:27 »
clan invasion is listed as starting in 3050 but all mechs with a 3049 intro date are grouped with the clan invasion. there are 56 so it's not an insignificant number

... though it may be an insignificant problem


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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1124 on: 12 May 2020, 05:36:34 »
That is intentional.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1126 on: 12 May 2020, 09:46:52 »
Acknowledging that events are split between before and after the clans invade, but production of what we consider clan invasion era units actually started a little earlier.
Ie, we bent the rules for usability.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1128 on: 15 May 2020, 11:46:45 »
Last one is just wrong.  Difference in first two was likely a change in outlook.  The strict definition of faction availability means the faction in general should have it (multiple of the unit in multiple different commands).  A unique couldn’t possibly qualify for that (unique being not multiple).
Then we decided, like intro dates versus prototype dates for units that were only ever prototypes, that uniques could have an exception.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1130 on: 18 May 2020, 11:58:39 »
Hello,

Has there been any discussion of creating a REST api for accessing the data of the MUL? It contains a vast sea of knowledge and getting at and understanding the data can be challenging for new and returning people. Not that a REST api would help them immediately but it would allow others a more low level access to the data for analysis and force creation apps. As a proof of concept I've created a simple REST api to access all the unit data from Megamek, and it got me thinking about accessing the MUL. I know it's not a simple wave of the magic wand for it to happen and was interested in finding out if there had been thoughts on something like this?

Thanks!

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1131 on: 18 May 2020, 13:22:12 »
We have thought about it and for multiple reasons we can’t do it.  The MUL is what it is now.  The only additions would be adding or correcting data only. No functionality changes.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1132 on: 18 May 2020, 13:27:13 »
Got it! Thank you.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1133 on: 19 May 2020, 13:58:19 »
A general question. Many designs don't have Late Republic and Dark Age availability listed. Most TRO 3050 and Project Phoenix 3050 era variants for example, are missing this data.
Should we report it or is it a known issue?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1134 on: 19 May 2020, 14:53:37 »
it's a thing for about 1100 mechs so i doubt it's an oversight. here's my list of mechs missing LR and DA availability. you can see it's a mix of 2750/3025/3050 machines plus jihad and before-era custom jobs along with exclusively HW clan stuff (including society shenanigans)

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BattleMaster BLR-1Gbc
Albatross ALB-5W (Dantalion)
Alfar AL-A1
Alfar AL-D1 "Dokkalfar"
Annihilator ANH-1A
Annihilator ANH-1G
Annihilator ANH-1X
Annihilator ANH-2A
Annihilator ANH-2AX
Annihilator ANH-3A
Annihilator ANH-4A
Annihilator C
Annihilator C "Gausszilla"
Annihilator C 2
Anubis ABS-3MC
Archangel C-ANG-O (Berith)
Archer ARC-1A
Archer ARC-2K
Archer ARC-2R
Archer ARC-2R (Morgan)
Archer ARC-2R (Rubinsky)
Archer ARC-2Rb
Archer ARC-2S
Archer ARC-2W
Archer ARC-4M
Archer ARC-5R
Archer ARC-5S
Archer ARC-5W
Archer ARC-7S
Archer ARC-9K
Assassin "Servitor"
Assassin ASN-101
Assassin ASN-21
Assassin ASN-23
Assassin ASN-30
Assassin ASN-30 (Alice)
Assassin ASN-99
Atlas AS7-00 (Jurn)
Atlas AS7-A
Atlas AS7-C
Atlas AS7-CM
Atlas AS7-D
Atlas AS7-D-DC
Atlas AS7-K
Atlas AS7-K-DC
Atlas AS7-RS
Atlas AS7-S
Atlas AS7-S2
Atlas AS7-S3
Atlas C
Awesome (Jeff X. Mink)
Awesome AWS-10KM
Awesome AWS-11M
Awesome AWS-8Q
Awesome AWS-8Q (Buck)
Awesome AWS-8Q (Smith)
Awesome AWS-8R
Awesome AWS-8T
Awesome AWS-8V
Awesome AWS-9M
Awesome AWS-9Ma
Awesome AWS-9Q
Awesome AWS-9Q (Klatt)
Axman AXM-1N
Axman AXM-2N
Axman AXM-3S
Axman AXM-4D
Axman AXM-6X
Bandersnatch BNDR-01A (Horus)
Banshee (John Bauer)
Banshee BNC-11X
Banshee BNC-1E
Banshee BNC-3E
Banshee BNC-3M
Banshee BNC-3MC
Banshee BNC-3Q
Banshee BNC-3S
Banshee BNC-3S (Reinesblatt)
Banshee BNC-5S
Banshee BNC-5S (Sawyer)
Banshee BNC-5S (Vandergriff)
Banshee BNC-6S
Banshee BNC-7S
Banshee BNC-8S
Banshee BNC-9S
Banzai BNZ-X
Barghest BGS-4X
Battle Cobra X
BattleAxe BKX-1X
BattleMaster (Raymond Aristorkhov)
BattleMaster BLR-1D
BattleMaster BLR-1G
BattleMaster BLR-1G-DC
BattleMaster BLR-1S
BattleMaster BLR-2C
BattleMaster BLR-3M
BattleMaster BLR-3M-DC
BattleMaster BLR-3S
BattleMaster BLR-4S (Calvin II)
BattleMaster BLR-4S (Calvin)
BattleMaster BLR-M3
BattleMaster C
Behemoth (Stone Rhino) 2
Behemoth (Stone Rhino) 4
Behemoth (Stone Rhino) 5
Behemoth (Stone Rhino) 6
Beowulf BEO-X-7A
Black Hawk (Nova) (Phelan 2)
Black Hawk (Nova) (Phelan)
Black Hawk-KU BHKU-O (Albert)
Black Knight BL-10-KNT (Ross)
Black Knight BL-12-KNT
Black Knight BL-6b-KNT
Black Knight BL-6-KNT
Black Knight BL-6-KNT (Ian)
Black Knight BL-7-KNT
Black Knight BL-7-KNT-L
Black Knight BL-9-KNT
Black Knight BL-X-KNT “Red Reaper”
Blackjack BJ-1
Blackjack BJ-1DB
Blackjack BJ-1DC
Blackjack BJ-1X
Blackjack BJ-2
Blackjack BJ-3
Blackjack BJ-3X
Blackjack BJ-4
Blood Kite (Standard)
Blood Kite 2
Bombardier BMB-05A
Bombardier BMB-10D
Bombardier BMB-12D
Bombardier BMB-14C
Bombardier BMB-14K
Buccaneer BCN-5W
Burrock (Standard)
Burrock 2
Caesar CES-3R
Caesar CES-3R "Archangel"
Caesar CES-3R "Gertrude"
Caesar CES-3S
Caesar CES-4R
Caesar CES-4S
Canis (Standard)
Canis 2
Cataphract CTF-0X
Cataphract CTF-1X
Cataphract CTF-2X
Cataphract CTF-2X (George)
Cataphract CTF-3D
Cataphract CTF-3L
Cataphract CTF-3LL
Cataphract CTF-3X (Sara)
Cataphract CTF-4L
Cataphract CTF-4X
Cataphract CTF-5D
Cataphract CTF-5MOC (Naomi)
Catapult CPLT-A1
Catapult CPLT-C1
Catapult CPLT-C1 "Butterbee 2"
Catapult CPLT-C1b
Catapult CPLT-C2
Catapult CPLT-C3
Catapult CPLT-C4
Catapult CPLT-C4C
Catapult CPLT-C5
Catapult CPLT-C6
Catapult CPLT-H2
Catapult CPLT-K2
Catapult CPLT-K2K
Catapult CPLT-K3
Catapult CPLT-K4
Catapult CPLT-K5
Celerity CLR-02-X-D
Centurion CN10-B
Centurion CN9-A
Centurion CN9-AH
Centurion CN9-AL
Centurion CN9-D
Centurion CN9-D3
Centurion CN9-D3D
Centurion CN9-D4D
Centurion CN9-D5
Centurion CN9-D9
Centurion CN9-Da
Centurion CN9-H
Centurion CN9-YLW "Yen Lo Wang"
Cephalus A
Cephalus B
Cephalus C
Cephalus D
Cephalus E
Cephalus Prime
Cephalus U
Cestus (Allard-Liao)
Chameleon CLN-7VQ "Q-'Mech"
Champion C
Champion CHP-1N
Champion CHP-1N (Irin)
Champion CHP-1N2
Champion CHP-1Nb
Champion CHP-2N
Champion CHP-3N
Champion CHP-3P
Champion LAM 01-04 CPN-1X1
Charger CGR-1A1
Charger CGR-1A5
Charger CGR-1A9
Charger CGR-1L
Charger CGR-1X1
Charger CGR-2A2
Charger CGR-3K
Charger CGR-C
Charger CGR-KMZ
Charger CGR-SA5
Charger CGR-SB "Challenger"
Cicada CDA-2A
Cicada CDA-2B
Cicada CDA-3C
Cicada CDA-3F
Cicada CDA-3G
Cicada CDA-3M
Cicada CDA-3MA
Cicada CDA-3P
Clint CLNT-1-2R
Clint CLNT-2-3T
Clint CLNT-2-3T (Denton)
Clint CLNT-2-3U
Clint CLNT-2-3UL
Clint CLNT-3-3T
Clint CLNT-5U
Clint CLNT-6S
Commando COM-1A
Commando COM-1B
Commando COM-1C
Commando COM-1D
Commando COM-2D
Commando COM-3A
Commando COM-4H
Commando COM-5S
Commando COM-7B
Commando COM-7S
Commando COM-7S2 (Freyr)
Commando COM-7X
Commando IIC (Standard)
Cougar-XR (Standard)
Coyotl <base>
Coyotl A
Coyotl Prime
Crab CRB-20
Crab CRB-27
Crab CRB-30
Crab CRB-45
Crab CRB-C
Crockett CRK-5003-0
Crockett CRK-5003-1
Crockett CRK-5003-3
Crockett CRK-5004-1
Crockett CRK-5005-1
Crossbow CRS-X
Crusader CRD-1R
Crusader CRD-3D
Crusader CRD-3K
Crusader CRD-3L
Crusader CRD-3R
Crusader CRD-4D
Crusader CRD-4K
Crusader CRD-4L
Crusader CRD-5M
Crusader CRD-5S
Crusader CRD-7W
Cyclops CP-10-HQ
Cyclops CP-10-Q
Cyclops CP-10-Z
Cyclops CP-10-Z-DC
Cyclops CP-11-A
Cyclops CP-11-A-DC
Cyclops CP-11-C
Cyclops CP-11-G
Cyclops CP-11-H
Cyclops CP-12-K
Daboku DCMS-MX90-D
Daedalus "Grimjet"
Daikyu DAI-01 (Tabitha)
Daimyo DMO-1K2 (al-Shahab)
Daimyo DMO-2KA
Daimyo DMO-3K
Daishi (Dire Wolf) "Prometheus"
Daishi (Dire Wolf) "Widowmaker"
Daishi (Dire Wolf) S
Daishi (Dire Wolf) W
Dasher (Fire Moth) (Aletha)
Dervish DV-1S
Dervish DV-6M
Dervish DV-6M (Mauck)
Dervish DV-7D
Dervish DV-8D
Dervish DV-8D2 "Lightbringer"
Dervish DV-9D
Deva C-DVA-O (Achillius)
Devastator DVS-X10 MUSE EARTH
Dola DOL-1A
Dragon DRG-1C
Dragon DRG-1N
Dragon DRG-5N
Dragon DRG-7N
Dragon Fire DGR-3F (Searcy II)
Dragon Fire DGR-3F (Searcy)
Dragon Fire DGR-6FC2 (Gregory)
Dragonfly (Viper) Z
Duan Gung (Vaughn)
Emperor EMP-5A
Emperor EMP-6A (Nerran)
Emperor EMP-6ME "Mercury Elite"
Enforcer ENF-4R
Enforcer ENF-4R (Daniel)
Enforcer ENF-5D
Enforcer ENF-5D (Daniel)
Enforcer III ENF-6G
Enforcer III ENF-6H
Enforcer III ENF-6T
Enforcer III ENF-7X MUSE COMPACT
Excalibur EXC-B1
Excalibur EXC-C1 (Cernunnos)
Exterminator EXT-4A
Exterminator EXT-4C
Exterminator EXT-4D
Exterminator EXT-4Db
Exterminator EXT-5E
Exterminator EXT-5F
Exterminator EXT-6CS
Fafnir FNR-4A (Peter)
Fafnir FNR-5WB
Falcon FLC-4N
Falcon FLC-4Nb
Falcon FLC-4Nb (Saho)
Falcon FLC-4Nb-PP
Falcon FLC-4Nb-PP2
Falcon FLC-4P
Falcon FLC-5P
Falcon FLC-6C
Fire Scorpion (Standard)
Fire Scorpion 2
Fire Scorpion 3
Fireball ALM-XF
Firebee FRB-1E (WAM-B)
Firefly C
Firefly FFL-3A
Firefly FFL-3PP
Firefly FFL-3PP2
Firefly FFL-3PP3
Firefly FFL-3SLE
Firefly FFL-4A
Firefly FFL-4B
Firefly FFL-4C
Firefly FFL-4D
Firefly FFL-4DA
Firestarter FS9-81X
Firestarter FS9-A
Firestarter FS9-B
Firestarter FS9-C
Firestarter FS9-H
Firestarter FS9-K
Firestarter FS9-M "Mirage"
Firestarter FS9-P
Firestarter FS9-S
Firestarter FS9-S1
Firestarter FS9-S2
Firestarter FS9-S3
Flashman FLS-7K
Flashman FLS-8K
Flashman FLS-9B
Flashman FLS-9C
Flashman FLS-9M
Flashman FLS-C
Flea "Fire Ant"
Flea FLE-14
Flea FLE-15
Flea FLE-16
Flea FLE-17
Flea FLE-19
Flea FLE-20
Flea FLE-4
Fox (Standard)
Galahad (Glass Spider) 3
Gallowglas GAL-4GLSA
Gestalt D2X-G
Gladiator GLD-1R
Goliath GOL-1H
Goliath GOL-3M
Goliath GOL-5W
Goshawk (Vapor Eagle) (Standard)
Goshawk (Vapor Eagle) 2
Goshawk (Vapor Eagle) 3
Goshawk (Vapor Eagle) 4
Grand Dragon DRG-1G
Grand Dragon DRG-1G (Douglas)
Grand Dragon DRG-5K
Grand Dragon DRG-5K (Emory)
Grand Dragon DRG-5K-DC
Grand Dragon DRG-7K
Grand Dragon DRG-7K (Mark)
Grand Dragon DRG-9KC
Grand Dragon DRG-C
Grand Titan T-IT-N14R "Vengeance"
Grand Titan T-IT-N16M (Al-Hawad)
Grasshopper GHR-4R
Grasshopper GHR-5H
Grasshopper GHR-5J
Grasshopper GHR-5N
Grasshopper GHR-6K
Grasshopper GHR-7K
Grasshopper GHR-7K "Gravedigger"
Grasshopper GHR-7X
Grasshopper GHR-C
Great Wyrm (Aemelia)
Great Wyrm (Standard)
Griffin GRF-1A
Griffin GRF-1DS
Griffin GRF-1E "Sparky"
Griffin GRF-1E2 "Sparky 2.0"
Griffin GRF-1N
Griffin GRF-1S
Griffin GRF-2N
Griffin GRF-3M
Griffin GRF-5K
Griffin GRF-5L
Griffin GRF-6S (Francine II)
Griffin GRF-6S (Francine)
Griffin IIC 2
Griffin IIC 5
Griffin IIC 6
Grigori C-GRG-O (Rufus)
Grim Reaper GRM-R-PR62A
Grizzly (Standard)
Guillotine GLT-3N
Guillotine GLT-4L
Guillotine GLT-4P
Guillotine GLT-5M
Guillotine GLT-6WB
Guillotine GLT-6WB2
Guillotine GLT-6WB3
Guillotine GLT-8D
Gunslinger GUN-1ERD (Jared)
Ha Otoko-HR (Refit)
Ha Otoko-HR (Standard)
Hatamoto-Chi HTM-26T
Hatamoto-Chi HTM-27T
Hatamoto-Chi HTM-27T (Daniel II)
Hatamoto-Chi HTM-27T (Daniel)
Hatamoto-Chi HTM-28T
Hatamoto-Chi HTM-28T (Shin)
Hatamoto-Hi HTM-27U
Hatamoto-Hi HTM-C
Hatamoto-Hi HTM-CM
Hatamoto-Kaeru HTM-35X
Hatamoto-Kaze HTM-27V
Hatamoto-Ku HTM-27W
Hatamoto-Mizo HTM-27Y
Hatchetman HCT-3F
Hatchetman HCT-3F (Austin)
Hatchetman HCT-5D
Hatchetman HCT-5DD
Hatchetman HCT-5K
Hatchetman HCT-5S
Hatchetman HCT-5S (Austin)
Hatchetman HCT-6D
Hatchetman HCT-6S
HawkWolf HWK-3F
Helepolis HEP-1H
Hellfire (Standard)
Hellfire 2
Hellspawn HSN-7D2 (Halperin)
Hellstar (Matt Houan)
Hercules HRC-LS-9000 (Julius)
Hermes HER-1A
Hermes HER-1B
Hermes HER-1S
Hermes HER-1Sb
Hermes HER-3S
Hermes HER-3S1
Hermes HER-3S2
Hermes HER-4K
Hermes HER-4M
Hermes HER-4S
Hermes HER-4WB
Hermes II HER-2K "Hermes III"
Hermes II HER-2M "Mercury"
Hermes II HER-2S
Hermes II HER-4K "Hermes III"
Hermes II HER-5C
Hermes II HER-5ME "Mercury Elite"
Hermes II HER-5S
Hermes II HER-5SA
Hermes II HER-6D
Hermes II HER-7S
Highlander HGN-641-X-2
Highlander HGN-694
Highlander HGN-732
Highlander HGN-732 (Colleen)
Highlander HGN-733
Highlander HGN-733C
Highlander HGN-733P
Highlander HGN-734
Highlander HGN-734r
Highlander HGN-736
Highlander HGN-738
Hoplite C
Hoplite HOP-4A
Hoplite HOP-4B
Hoplite HOP-4Bb
Hoplite HOP-4C
Hoplite HOP-4Cb
Hoplite HOP-4D
Hoplite HOP-4X
Hornet HNT-151
Hornet HNT-152
Hornet HNT-161
Hornet HNT-171
Hunchback HBK-4G
Hunchback HBK-4G (Hohiro)
Hunchback HBK-4G (Shakir)
Hunchback HBK-4H
Hunchback HBK-4J
Hunchback HBK-4N
Hunchback HBK-4P
Hunchback HBK-4SP
Hunchback HBK-5H
Hunchback HBK-5M
Hunchback HBK-5N
Hunchback HBK-5P
Hunchback HBK-5S
Hunchback HBK-5SG
Hunchback HBK-6N
Hunchback HBK-6S
Hunchback HBK-7X-4
Hunchback IIC 2
Hunchback IIC 3
Huron Warrior HUR-WO-R4X
Hussar HSR-200-D
Hussar HSR-300-D
Hussar HSR-350-D
Hussar HSR-400-D
Hussar HSR-500-D
Hussar HSR-900-D
Hussar HSR-950-D
Icarus ICR-1X
Imp C
Imp IMP-1A
Imp IMP-1B
Imp IMP-1C
Imp IMP-2E
Imp IMP-3E
Imp IMP-4E
Jackal JA-KL-1578
Jackal JA-KL-1579
JagerMech JM6-A
JagerMech JM6-B
JagerMech JM6-DD
JagerMech JM6-DDa
JagerMech JM6-DG
JagerMech JM6-DGr
JagerMech JM6-H
JagerMech JM7-D
JagerMech JM7-F
JagerMech JM7-G
Javelin JVN-10A
Javelin JVN-10F "Fire Javelin"
Javelin JVN-10N
Javelin JVN-10P
Javelin JVN-11A "Fire Javelin"
Javelin JVN-11B
Javelin JVN-11D
Javelin JVN-11D (Farrell)
Javelin JVN-11F
Jenner JR10-X
Jenner JR7-A
Jenner JR7-C
Jenner JR7-C2
Jenner JR7-C3
Jenner JR7-D
Jenner JR7-F
Jenner JR7-K
Jenner JR7-K (Grace II)
Jenner JR7-K (Grace)
Jenner JR7-K (Samuli)
Jinggau JN-G8BX (Rush)
Juggernaut JG-R9TX1 "Leapin' Lil"
Katana (Crockett) CRK-5003-2
Katana (Crockett) CRK-5003-C
Katana (Crockett) CRK-5003-CJ
Katana (Crockett) CRK-5003-CM
King Crab KGC-000
King Crab KGC-0000
King Crab KGC-001
King Crab KGC-005
King Crab KGC-007
King Crab KGC-008
King Crab KGC-008B
Kintaro KTO-18
Kintaro KTO-19
Kintaro KTO-20
Kintaro KTO-21
Kintaro KTO-C
Kintaro KTO-K
Kodiak (Cale)
Koshi (Mist Lynx) Z
Kraken (Bane) 2
Kraken-XR (Standard)
Kyudo KY2-D-01
Lancelot LNC25-01
Lancelot LNC25-01X
Lancelot LNC25-02
Lancelot LNC25-03
Lancelot LNC25-04
Lancelot LNC25-05
Lancelot LNC25-06
Lancelot LNC25-08
Legionnaire LGN-2X1 MUSE FIRE
Liberator LIB-4T
Lightray LGH-6W
Locust IIC 3
Locust LCT-1E
Locust LCT-1L
Locust LCT-1M
Locust LCT-1S
Locust LCT-1V
Locust LCT-1Vb
Locust LCT-3D
Locust LCT-3M
Locust LCT-3S
Locust LCT-3V
Locust LCT-5T
Locust LCT-6M
Longbow LGB-0W
Longbow LGB-13C
Longbow LGB-13NAIS
Longbow LGB-14C
Lupus <Base>
Lupus A
Lupus B
Lupus Prime
Mackie MSK-5S
Mackie MSK-7A
Mad Cat (Timber Wolf) (Bounty Hunter 2)
Mad Cat (Timber Wolf) (Bounty Hunter)
Mad Cat (Timber Wolf) (Pryde)
Mad Cat (Timber Wolf) Z
Mad Cat III X
Malak C-MK-O (Mi)
Mandrill (Standard)
Marauder (Bounty Hunter-3015)
Marauder (Bounty Hunter-3044)
Marauder II (Bounty Hunter)
Marauder II MAD-4A
Marauder II MAD-4K
Marauder II MAD-4S
Marauder II MAD-5A
Marauder IIC 4
Marauder IIC 5
Marauder MAD-3D
Marauder MAD-3L
Marauder MAD-3M
Marauder MAD-3M-DC
Marauder MAD-3R
Marauder MAD-4X
Marauder MAD-5D
Marauder MAD-5D-DC
Marauder MAD-5M
Marauder MAD-5S
Marauder MAD-6L
Marauder MAD-9M2
Masakari (Warhawk) (Tara)
Matador (Standard)
Matar SAM-RS2
Mauler MAL-1K
Mauler MAL-1R
Mauler MAL-2R
Mauler MAL-3R
Mauler MAL-4X “Todesbote”
Mauler MAL-C
Men Shen (Li)
Mercury II MCY-100
Mercury MCY-102
Mercury MCY-104
Mercury MCY-97
Mercury MCY-98
Mercury MCY-99
Merlin MLN-SX
Minsk (Standard)
Mongoose MON-66
Mongoose MON-67
Mongoose MON-68
Mongoose MON-69
Mongoose MON-70
Mongoose MON-76
Nightstar (Joshua Franco)
Nobori-nin (Huntsman) <Base>
Nobori-nin (Huntsman) A
Nobori-nin (Huntsman) B
Nobori-nin (Huntsman) C
Nobori-nin (Huntsman) Prime
No-Dachi NDA-3X
Omega SHP-X4
Orion ON1-C
Orion ON1-H
Orion ON1-K
Orion ON1-K (Kerensky)
Orion ON1-M
Orion ON1-MA
Orion ON1-MB
Orion ON1-MC
Orion ON1-MD
Orion ON1-M-DC
Orion ON1-V
Orion ON1-VA
Orion ON1-V-DC
Orion ON2-M
Orion ON3-MX
Osteon (Jaguar)
Osteon <Base>
Osteon A
Osteon B
Osteon C
Osteon D
Osteon E
Osteon F
Osteon G
Osteon Prime
Osteon U
Ostroc OSR-2C
Ostroc OSR-2D
Ostroc OSR-2L
Ostroc OSR-2M
Ostroc OSR-3C
Ostscout IIC (Standard)
Ostscout OTT-10CS
Ostscout OTT-7J
Ostscout OTT-7K
Ostsol OTL-4D
Ostsol OTL-4F
Ostsol OTL-5M
Ostsol OTL-8D
Pandarus LFA-1X
Panther PNT-10K
Panther PNT-10KA
Panther PNT-12A
Panther PNT-14S
Panther PNT-16K
Panther PNT-8Z
Panther PNT-9ALAG
Panther PNT-9R
Panther PNT-C
Panther PNT-CA
Pariah (Septicemia) <Base>
Pariah (Septicemia) A
Pariah (Septicemia) A-Z
Pariah (Septicemia) B
Pariah (Septicemia) B-Z
Pariah (Septicemia) C
Pariah (Septicemia) C-Z
Pariah (Septicemia) D
Pariah (Septicemia) D-Z
Pariah (Septicemia) E
Pariah (Septicemia) F
Pariah (Septicemia) Prime
Pariah (Septicemia) US
Pariah (Septicemia) UW
Pariah (Septicemia) Z
Pathfinder PFF-2
Pathfinder PFF-2T
Pendragon PDG-1X MUSE RED
Peregrine (Horned Owl) (Standard)
Peregrine (Horned Owl) 2
Peregrine (Horned Owl) 4
Peregrine (Horned Owl) 5
Phoenix Hawk IIC 5
Phoenix Hawk IIC 6
Phoenix Hawk LAM C
Phoenix Hawk PXH-1
Phoenix Hawk PXH-1D
Phoenix Hawk PXH-1K
Phoenix Hawk PXH-2
Phoenix Hawk PXH-3D
Phoenix Hawk PXH-3K
Phoenix Hawk PXH-3M
Phoenix Hawk PXH-3S
Phoenix Hawk PXH-4L (Sante)
Phoenix Hawk PXH-7K
Pillager PLG-4X "Anvil"
Predator (Standard)
Preta C-PRT-O (Kendali)
Pulverizer PUL-2V
Pwwka S-PW-1LAM
Quickdraw QKD-4G
Quickdraw QKD-4H
Quickdraw QKD-5A
Quickdraw QKD-5K
Quickdraw QKD-5K2
Quickdraw QKD-5M
Quickdraw QKD-8K
Quickdraw QKD-8X
Quickdraw QKD-C
Rabid Coyote (Standard)
Rampage RMP-2G
Rampage RMP-4G
Rampage RMP-5G
Raven RVN-1X
Raven RVN-2X
Raven RVN-3L
Raven RVN-3M
Raven RVN-3X
Raven RVN-4L
Raven RVN-4LC
Raven RVN-4X
Raven RVN-SR "Shattered Raven"
Raven RVN-SS "Shattered Raven"
Raven X RVN-3X
Revenant UBM-1A
Rifleman (Loren Jaffray)
Rifleman IIC 5
Rifleman IIC 6
Rifleman RFL-1N
Rifleman RFL-2N
Rifleman RFL-3C
Rifleman RFL-3Cr
Rifleman RFL-3M
Rifleman RFL-3N
Rifleman RFL-3N (Rubinsky 1)
Rifleman RFL-3N (Rubinsky 2)
Rifleman RFL-3N (Sneed)
Rifleman RFL-4D
Rifleman RFL-5D
Rifleman RFL-5M
Rifleman RFL-6D
Rifleman RFL-9T
Rifleman RFL-X3 MUSE WIND
Rook NH-1A
Rook NH-1B
Rook NH-1X "Rook-X"
Rook NH-2A
Ryoken (Stormcrow) Z
Sarissa MN1-D
Savage Coyote Z
Schwerer Gustav (Standard)
Scorpion LAM SCP-X1
Scorpion SCP-12K
Scorpion SCP-1N
Scorpion SCP-1N (Rubinsky)
Scorpion SCP-1N (Wendall)
Scorpion SCP-1O
Scylla (Standard)
Sentinel STN-1S
Sentinel STN-3K
Sentinel STN-3KA
Sentinel STN-3KB
Sentinel STN-3L
Sentinel STN-3Lb
Sentinel STN-3M
Sentinel STN-4D
Sentinel STN-5WB
Sentinel STN-C
Seraph C-SRP-O (Havalah)
Seraph C-SRP-OR (Ravana)
Sha Yu (Bulldog)
Shadow Hawk IIC (Standard)
Shadow Hawk IIC 5
Shadow Hawk IIC 6
Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS
Shadow Hawk SHD-1R
Shadow Hawk SHD-2D
Shadow Hawk SHD-2D2
Shadow Hawk SHD-2H
Shadow Hawk SHD-2Hb
Shadow Hawk SHD-2K
Shadow Hawk SHD-3H
Shadow Hawk SHD-5D (Sandy)
Shadow Hawk SHD-5M
Shadow Hawk SHD-9D
Shogun C
Shogun SHG-2E
Shogun SHG-2F
Shogun SHG-2F (Trisha)
Shogun SHG-2H
Slagmaiden SLG-X
Sling SL-1G
Sling SL-1H
Snake (Arthur)
Snake SNK-1V (Alexi)
Snow Fox (Standard)
Spartan SPT-N1
Spatha SP2-X "Warlord"
Spider SDR-5D
Spider SDR-5K
Spider SDR-5V
Spider SDR-7K
Spider SDR-7K2
Spider SDR-7KC
Spider SDR-7M
Spider SDR-8M
Spider SDR-C
Stag II ST-24G
Stag ST-14G
Stalker STK-3F
Stalker STK-3F (Jamison)
Stalker STK-3Fb
Stalker STK-3H
Stalker STK-4N
Stalker STK-4P
Stalker STK-5M
Stalker STK-5S
Stalker STK-6M
Stalker STK-7D
Stalker STK-8S
Stalking Spider (Standard)
Stalking Spider 2
Stalking Spider 3
Stealth STH-1D (Anna)
Stealth STH-5X
Stiletto STO-6X
Stinger LAM C
Stinger STG-3G
Stinger STG-3Gb
Stinger STG-3R
Stinger STG-5M
Stinger STG-5T
Stinger STG-6S
Stooping Hawk <Base>
Stooping Hawk A
Stooping Hawk B
Stooping Hawk C
Stooping Hawk D
Stooping Hawk F
Stooping Hawk G
Stooping Hawk Prime
Super-Griffin GRF-2N-X
Super-Wasp WSP-2A-X
Talos TLS-1B
Temax Cat Ninjabolt TMC-NB
Tessen TSN-X-4
Thanatos TNS-4S (Felix)
Thor (Summoner) Q
Thor (Summoner) Z
Thorn THE-F
Thorn THE-N
Thorn THE-N1
Thorn THE-N2
Thorn THE-Nb
Thorn THE-S
Thorn THE-T
Thresher (Edward)
Thug THG-10E
Thug THG-11E
Thug THG-11ECX (Jose)
Thug THG-12E
Thug THG-12K
Thug THG-13K
Thunderbolt TDR-11SE
Thunderbolt TDR-17S
Thunderbolt TDR-1C
Thunderbolt TDR-5D
Thunderbolt TDR-5S
Thunderbolt TDR-5Sb
Thunderbolt TDR-5SE
Thunderbolt TDR-5SS
Thunderbolt TDR-60-RLA
Thunderbolt TDR-7M
Thunderbolt TDR-9S
Thunderbolt TDR-9SE
Ti Ts'ang "China Doll"
Ti Ts'ang TSG-9H (Jason)
Toro TR-A-1
Toyama TYM-1B
Trebuchet TBT-3C
Trebuchet TBT-5J
Trebuchet TBT-5N
Trebuchet TBT-5S
Trebuchet TBT-7K
Trebuchet TBT-7M
Trebuchet TBT-8B
Trebuchet TBT-9K
Trebuchet TBT-XK7
Trooper TP-1R
Tundra Wolf (Standard)
Turkina Z
Uller (Kit Fox) (Rood)
UrbanMech UM-R50
UrbanMech UM-R60
UrbanMech UM-R60L
UrbanMech UM-R63
UrbanMech UM-R68
UrbanMech UM-R69
UrbanMech UM-R70
Ursus PR
Uziel UZL-2S (Jacob II)
Uziel UZL-2S (Jacob)
Valiant VAL-NT-JX "Hot Knife"
Valkyrie VLK-QA
Valkyrie VLK-QD
Valkyrie VLK-QD2
Valkyrie VLK-QF
Valkyrie VLK-QS5
Venom SDR-9K
Victor C
Victor VTR-10D
Victor VTR-10L
Victor VTR-10S
Victor VTR-11D
Victor VTR-9A
Victor VTR-9A1
Victor VTR-9B
Victor VTR-9D
Victor VTR-9K
Victor VTR-9K2 (St.James)
Victor VTR-9Ka
Victor VTR-9S
Victor VTR-C
Viking VKG-3W
Vindicator VND-1AA "Avenging Angel"
Vindicator VND-1R
Vindicator VND-1R (Vong)
Vindicator VND-1SIC
Vindicator VND-1X
Vindicator VND-3L
Vindicator VND-3LD (Dao)
Vindicator VND-4L
Vindicator VND-5L
Vindicator VND-6L
Viper (Black Python) 2
Viper (Black Python) 3
Vision Quest (Standard)
Vixen (Incubus) 2
Vixen (Incubus) 3
Vulcan VL-2T
Vulcan VL-5T
Vulcan VT-5M
Vulcan VT-5S
Vulcan VT-6C
Vulcan VT-6M
Wakazashi (Standard)
Waneta S-WN-1LAM
Waneta S-WN-2LAM
Warhammer IIC (Standard)
Warhammer IIC 5
Warhammer IIC 6
Warhammer WHM-10T
Warhammer WHM-6D
Warhammer WHM-6K
Warhammer WHM-6L
Warhammer WHM-6L-DC
Warhammer WHM-6R
Warhammer WHM-6R-DC
Warhammer WHM-7A
Warhammer WHM-7M
Warhammer WHM-7M-DC
Warhammer WHM-7S
Warhammer WHM-8K
Warhammer WHM-8M
Warhammer WHM-X7 "The Lich"
Warlord BLR-2XC
Wasp WSP-1
Wasp WSP-1A
Wasp WSP-1D
Wasp WSP-1K
Wasp WSP-1L
Wasp WSP-1S
Wasp WSP-1W
Wasp WSP-3M
Wasp WSP-3W
Wasp WSP-7MAF
Whitworth WTH-0
Whitworth WTH-1
Whitworth WTH-1H
Whitworth WTH-1S
Whitworth WTH-2
Whitworth WTH-2A
Whitworth WTH-3
Whitworth WTH-5S
Whitworth WTH-K
Wight WGT-4NC "Dezgra"
Wolf Trap (Tora) WFT-1
Wolf Trap (Tora) WFT-1 (Daitama)
Wolf Trap (Tora) WFT-2
Wolf Trap (Tora) WFT-2X "Bear Trap"
Wolf Trap (Tora) WFT-B
Wolf Trap (Tora) WFT-C
Wolfhound (Lucian Finn)
Wolfhound IIC "Grinner"
Wolfhound WLF-1
Wolfhound WLF-1 (Allard)
Wolfhound WLF-1A
Wolfhound WLF-1B
Wolfhound WLF-2
Wolfhound WLF-2X
Wolfhound WLF-3S
Wolfhound WLF-4W
Wolfhound WLF-4WA
Wolverine II WVR-7H
Wolverine WVR-1R
Wolverine WVR-3R
Wolverine WVR-6D
Wolverine WVR-6K
Wolverine WVR-6M
Wolverine WVR-6R
Wolverine WVR-7D
Wolverine WVR-7K
Wolverine WVR-7M
Wolverine WVR-9K
Wolverine WVR-9M
Woodsman <Base>
Woodsman A
Woodsman Prime
Wraith TR2-X "Alexander"
Wyvern WVE-10N
Wyvern WVE-5N
Wyvern WVE-6N
Wyvern WVE-9N
Xanthos XNT-2O
Yurei S-YR-1LAM
Zeus (Herbert Baldric)
Zeus ZEU-10WB
Zeus ZEU-5S
Zeus ZEU-5T
Zeus ZEU-6A
Zeus ZEU-6S
Zeus ZEU-6S1
Zeus ZEU-6S-DC
Zeus ZEU-6T
Zeus ZEU-6Y
Zeus ZEU-9S
Zeus ZEU-9S2
Zeus ZEU-9S-DC
Zeus ZEU-9T
Zeus-X ZEU-9WD
Zeus-X ZEU-9WD (Stacy)

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1135 on: 20 May 2020, 01:06:43 »
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4713/newgrange-iii-yardship-eyrines

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4714/newgrange-iii-yardship-standard

Both of these are listed under "Advanced Aerospace - JumpShip" and should be "Advanced Aerospace - WarShip" instead.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1136 on: 20 May 2020, 21:37:21 »
I think the faction availabilities for the Cecerops 3 and Cecerops 4 are backwards. The fluff in TRO:3075 and the Wars of Reaving RATs suggest that the 3 should be the Blood Spirit variant, while the 4 should be the Society variant.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1137 on: 24 May 2020, 15:19:06 »
Does the MUL account for DropShuttles (the proto-DropShips which were carried internally and could mass no more than 5000 tons) as such?
I'm aware of only four such ship types that were introduced pre-2470 which named in canon, but none of them is called a DropShuttle. Instead, they are listed as DropShips in the MUL in what I presume is an error (or not at all):

Saturn Patrol Ship: Aerospace - DropShip
Black Eagle: Aerospace - DropShip
DroST IIa/b: Aerospace - DropShip (special case, it's already been acknowledged that the original pre-2470 DroST needs errata because it is too heavy at 5300 tons and the stats are actually for a post-2470 DropShip variant)
Clippership IV: not listed in MUL

Can you confirm that the MUL doesn't distinguish between DropShuttles and DropShips, and that designs predating ~2462 (introduction of the Czar DropShip) should automatically be assumed to be DropShuttle designs?
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1138 on: 31 May 2020, 21:39:25 »
Fire Falcon A is listed as a 'Homeworld Clan' during the Jihad era, while all other variants list which specific factions they belong to.
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/1063/fire-falcon-a#
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/1063/fire-falcon-b#

Wouldn't access to one omnimech variant for a faction also grant access to other versions of that mech? (Where technology used in that variant was available to the faction)
(Alternatively: was the Fire Falcon A too broadly applied?)

 

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