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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1080 on: 17 February 2020, 11:42:17 »
Heavy Tracked APC (Standard) availability seems to be in error (as well as LRM, SRM, MG variants).

Rasalhague Dominion and Raven Alliance receive the following in the Early Republic Era

1.  Armored Personnel Carrier (Tracked) (Only for RD)
2.  Heavy Wheeled APC
3.  Heavy Hover APC

Heavy Tracked APC appears missing from the list.

Also Armored Personnel Carrier (Wheeled) was not tagged in Late Republic and Dark Age Era.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1081 on: 21 February 2020, 19:20:06 »
The Quirinus [MG]'s intro date is 3138 for some reason. Since the MG is in modular mount, and the other Quirinus options date from 3093, the MG variant probably should have same introduction date.
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6646/quirinus-battle-armor-mg
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1082 on: 26 February 2020, 09:53:53 »
Should the TR-1-A Toro have movement 8” (MP4) as per XTRO:Prim IV?

Also the Sovetskii Soyuz (2742) Heavy Cruiser should be available to the Draconis Combine in the early Succession Wars era (as per page 42 Hist:1SW the DCS Sahand).

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1083 on: 07 March 2020, 13:45:10 »
Do the mobile version and the desktop site round thing differently?  The Tenshi A on mobile is 2011 BV at 4/4, but on desktop it's 2012.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1084 on: 07 March 2020, 16:14:31 »
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7386/padilla-anti-missile-tank-standard

the RAMS ability should be included under the TUR ability as well.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1085 on: 15 March 2020, 22:36:53 »
cross-posting here because it's applicable in both places

In Dossiers: Bounty Hunter
Pg 9: Alexander Romanov's Shadow Hawk is referred to as the SHD-2H (Romanov)
Pg 24: The record sheet refers to the same mech as the SHD-5H Sandy

The MUL designates it the SHD-5D (Sandy)

Which is correct?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1086 on: 16 March 2020, 16:50:34 »
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/609/clan-heavy-jump-infantry-heavy-infantry-point-91st-mechanized-assault-epsilon-galaxy

BV is wrong.  Should be 327.  Using Megameklab 47.1 for the calculations.

This has implications for TRO 3085 errata as well.

And of course there is always the worry that there is systemic BV inaccuracies in MUL infantry now.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1087 on: 23 March 2020, 09:35:21 »
some FWL units (like the royal crab) have separate availability for all six of the sub-states, but not the FWL main list. this causes those units to not show up in a search unless accounting for substates. perhaps in those cases either general FWL availability might be added or replace the MiniMarik partitions altogether.

i'll be happy to make a list if it's something you'll (eventually) act on

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1088 on: 23 March 2020, 11:31:37 »
Can you give some examples and which eras? The subfactions should be completely independent of FWL in the eras that they exist.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1089 on: 23 March 2020, 14:54:19 »
Can you give some examples and which eras? The subfactions should be completely independent of FWL in the eras that they exist.

my brain had the reunification happening about a decade earlier (~3130) than it actually was in 3139, which changes the question - mainly, how do you deal with added availability in the middle of an era?

Take the royal Crab for example http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/717/crab-crb-27b. It's listed as available to all six former FWL constituencies during the Dark Age years. In 3139/40, the nuFWL theoretically gains access via the amalgamation of the reformed member state militaries, but is not listed.

On the other hand, there are a small number of units that suddenly pop up as pan-FWL during this time (http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Filter?Name=&HasBV=false&MinTons=&MaxTons=&MinBV=&MaxBV=&MinIntro=&MaxIntro=&MinCost=&MaxCost=&HasRole=&HasBFAbility=&MinPV=&MaxPV=&Role=None+Selected&BookAuto=&FactionAuto=&Factions=30&AvailableEras=16).

I'm not advocating a specific position here, I'm really just being nosy about the internal logic.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1091 on: 27 March 2020, 17:43:11 »
I don't think we considered the nuFWL at all when we add that faction data. The couple I checked were all IS General. I could be wrong on that as it has been many years since I worked on that portion.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1092 on: 27 March 2020, 18:12:38 »
The Phoenix Hawk L, for example, has DA availability for the FWL (as opposed to some of the sub factions in the late republic).

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1093 on: 31 March 2020, 19:41:54 »
The Malice's TRO entry says it (presumably MAL-XT) entered service just before the Blackout, which happened in 3132, but MUL gives its introdate as 3134. Based on TRO, it probably should be 3132 or 3131.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #1094 on: 01 April 2020, 23:34:42 »
The Wolverine-II is listed as an Intro Date of 2770.

But it was in use in the Periphery with General Kerensky during the New Vandenberg uprising in 2765.

For that matter the Atlas-II that was also in use has 2765 as its intro year.

It seems like both should be a bit earlier to make it out to a Periphery warehouse by 2765 (or earlier)
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-Kruger Combat Car (original):
Early and Late Republic availability listed as Extinct and Calderon Protectorate, Federated Suns, Filtvelt Coalition and The Taurian Concordant.
It was extinct before 3091 but now the extinct tag is in error.
-Strix Stealth VTOL
This VTOL is listed as listed RotS only availability and this is correct according to the original write up from XTRO:Republic vol 1 However The newer write up
in TRO 3150 changes things "Prior to the Blackout, the Republic maintained
strict export controls on the Strix, with
only the Federated Suns permitted by treaty
to purchase the vehicle. Post-crash, however,
this exclusivity was shattered as the RAF collapsed.
With enemies both internal and external
snatching up RAF equipment, availability of the
Strix rapidly spread."
So it seems the FS should get added to the early republic era and even more factions (DC/CC/Clan Wolf for example) to the late republic era.

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According to TRO:3150 page 170 Dark Age Availability should include mercenaries, FWL (Clan Protectorate) and perhaps RotS.
"Their biggest customers
were mid-sized mercenary units and
Nova Cat militia clusters within the Republic."
"The Spirit Cats of the Clan
Protectorate field the largest concentration of
these ‘Mechs"