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Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« on: 19 August 2015, 11:25:06 »
Hi folks,
Can anyone point me to an Inner Sphere overview (maybe 5-20 pages) that has no post-3025 spoilers in it?
I have access to the old sourcebooks but they seem to go into far more detail than I need.
I'm looking for a "setting the scene" type document for people who have never heard of Battletech or the Clans.  It's all going to be a surprise.

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #1 on: 19 August 2015, 12:07:43 »
Hi folks,
Can anyone point me to an Inner Sphere overview (maybe 5-20 pages) that has no post-3025 spoilers in it?
I have access to the old sourcebooks but they seem to go into far more detail than I need.
I'm looking for a "setting the scene" type document for people who have never heard of Battletech or the Clans.  It's all going to be a surprise.

Thanks,
Michael

Tell them it's "Game of Thrones in Space".

Finding something that has no post-3025 spoilers is going to be tough.. you'd have to find some 1980's era analogues of something like this.  They exist, but .pdfs didn't back then.. so modern reproductions are nonexistent to my knowledge.

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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #2 on: 19 August 2015, 12:21:25 »
Besides the box set rulebook/universe book, there's also Worktroll's Army Reports. I reckon these are as close to an Era Report: 3025 as you can get.
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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #3 on: 19 August 2015, 16:30:48 »
Tell them it's "Game of Thrones in Space".

Finding something that has no post-3025 spoilers is going to be tough.. you'd have to find some 1980's era analogues of something like this.  They exist, but .pdfs didn't back then.. so modern reproductions are nonexistent to my knowledge.

The Crescent Hawks Inception and the original MechWarrior game manuals are perfect examples of this - brief to the point 3025 overviews with no 4th war spoilers. I suspect given they are video game stuff they are online, but idea where you'd look for them save google.

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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #4 on: 19 August 2015, 18:32:20 »
What happened to the old image-free PDFs of the original House books?

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« Reply #5 on: 19 August 2015, 18:53:53 »
What happened to the old image-free PDFs of the original House books?

I believe this link in the downloads section on sarna should do...

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« Reply #6 on: 19 August 2015, 18:54:45 »
What happened to the old image-free PDFs of the original House books?

Nothing, but they are ruled out as overkill in the OP.

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« Reply #7 on: 19 August 2015, 19:03:34 »
Tell them it's "Game of Thrones in Space".
Please don't.
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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #8 on: 19 August 2015, 19:16:01 »
Who did those 3025 Army Reports? I don't know the dl link but have them.

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« Reply #9 on: 19 August 2015, 21:25:35 »
I have those sourcebooks, they are overkill.
I want the 20 page short version, and then if they're really interested in the Draconis Combine they can read all about it.

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« Reply #10 on: 19 August 2015, 23:23:38 »
Please don't.

Case by case basis.  Nothing can be completely off the table when introducing new players to the mysteries.  ;D
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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #11 on: 19 August 2015, 23:33:10 »
Iron Liz did a great recap of the IS in the opening of her BT RPG reviews but Blip TV just took down her videos  >:(


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« Reply #12 on: 19 August 2015, 23:38:48 »
Please don't.

I don't know how the Game of Thrones reference originated but it doesn't fit at all. 
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« Reply #13 on: 19 August 2015, 23:51:37 »
Who did those 3025 Army Reports? I don't know the dl link but have them.

me :)

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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #14 on: 20 August 2015, 01:59:03 »
I don't know how the Game of Thrones reference originated but it doesn't fit at all.

Both settings inspired by European history, especially the War of the Roses and the Hundred Year's War?  Check.
Both settings are about the dynastic struggles between feuding Houses over a vacant throne?  Check.
Both settings add magic?  Check.  (don't kid yourself, interstellar travel and mecha are just a different brand of magic than dragons and zombies)


Granted, if you came in to BattleTech after it jumped the shark with the whole "MunchkinTech" revolution of the Clan Invasion era, you may have never played BattleTech when it was Game of Thrones in Space.  But in the 3025 era, as the OP is asking about, it was.  Once upon a time.
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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #15 on: 20 August 2015, 02:16:13 »
Game of Thrones may be good cliff note example of the politics but it begins and ends their. After that, you have just as many parallels between Battletech and Star War ( *both are Sci-fi, *both are about War, *both have Stompy Robots... one more so... and thats it)
 
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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #16 on: 20 August 2015, 08:50:48 »
Game of Thrones may be good cliff note example of the politics but it begins and ends their. After that, you have just as many parallels between Battletech and Star War ( *both are Sci-fi, *both are about War, *both have Stompy Robots... one more so... and thats it)

You're right... There isn't nearly enough regicide in Game of Thrones to compare to Battletech.  Since, what, about 3010 there has only been 1 natural death of a house ruler... or even any of the merc unit leaders we care about?  A substantial number of characters get offed by assassination... somebody should beef up security.

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« Reply #17 on: 20 August 2015, 10:17:48 »
Not sure about that...we have some naughty & insane stuff happening in the 3132-3150 DA timeline that looks very reminiscent of GoT: incest, rape, war crimes, insane Prince, regicide....

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« Reply #18 on: 20 August 2015, 10:24:43 »
Not sure about that...we have some naughty & insane stuff happening in the 3132-3150 DA timeline that looks very reminiscent of GoT: incest, rape, war crimes, insane Prince, regicide....

I've said more than once the Dark Age is effectively a reboot back to BattleTech's conceptual roots.

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« Reply #19 on: 20 August 2015, 11:57:53 »
Since, what, about 3010 there has only been 1 natural death of a house ruler... or even any of the merc unit leaders we care about?

Being assassinated *is* a natural death for Inner Sphere rulers.
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« Reply #20 on: 20 August 2015, 14:31:30 »
me :)

go to fan articles, and look for "army report"

Fan articles on what site?

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« Reply #22 on: 20 August 2015, 18:25:13 »
Truly excellent.

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« Reply #23 on: 20 August 2015, 18:48:31 »
I thank you!

(Was posting from my phone before).

Will be interested to see the Combat Manuals when they finally come out; my gut feel is they'll not try and cover the society/culture aspects, but will be more meaty on the military side.
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« Reply #24 on: 20 August 2015, 20:10:29 »
Game of Thrones may be good cliff note example of the politics but it begins and ends their.

And this is all I meant, too.  There are some people with whom it may be right to use the GoT analogy.
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« Reply #25 on: 20 August 2015, 20:16:36 »
Being assassinated *is* a natural death for Inner Sphere rulers.

It's practically tradition in Comstar.

@Worktroll: The mech selection charts in the back of the PDFs are a nice touch, offering a good selection without the long lists of the MUL.

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« Reply #26 on: 20 August 2015, 22:27:08 »
I'll throw another vote behind WorkTroll's army reports. Excellent abridged versions of the 3025 Housebooks with just enough background on the political and social makeup of each nation that they come alive, and clearly organized tables for building a sample mech force of nearly any type.

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« Reply #27 on: 21 August 2015, 03:45:00 »
just downloaded house marik.  I will read it then see if I want the others.  I need to get these to a friend of mine who is still fairly new to Battletech.
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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #28 on: 22 August 2015, 14:16:56 »
Can anyone point me to an Inner Sphere overview (maybe 5-20 pages) that has no post-3025 spoilers in it?
I have access to the old sourcebooks but they seem to go into far more detail than I need.
I'm looking for a "setting the scene" type document for people who have never heard of Battletech or the Clans.  It's all going to be a surprise.

The 1st edition of BattleForce has the best possible 1-2 page overview.

The 1st edition of the MechWarrior RPG has equally excellent historical overview, but longer by a few pages, plus 1-2 pages for each Great House, the Periphery, and ComStar. Other info throughout the book is of interest as well.



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Re: Spoiler-free Inner Sphere Overview 3025
« Reply #29 on: 23 August 2015, 22:46:14 »
Battletech Universe is what I always hand people.
http://d15yciz5bluc83.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BattleTechUniverseGuide.pdf?bdd337

Why not just open this pdf in a Word 2013 and cut out the post 3025, 4th succession war section?

Perhaps you could also use the original rules in pdf purchaseable on the Battlecorps site.

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