MWO Rifleman Pack!

[Cyc]

Well, almost out...

Russ showing off the loyalty paint version on Twitter:


And tease of the Hero:

[Decoy]

....is that Wombat's Rifleman on the Hero screen?

[Orin J.]

i can hear those barrels getting cut back from here. i'd be a little excited, but with the heavy queue being what it is, i hardly play them.

i do hope those radar bars pick up some girth before they hit the game though.

[Decoy]

I think they're trying to indicate that the radome isn't that critical a target. I've been in a couple battles in a Jagermech where people on the other side have all but knocked my radome off and got miffed because they thought they were shooting my jagermech's cockpit.

[worktroll]

....is that Wombat's Rifleman on the Hero screen?

And I even remember where the pink Rifleman legend started. Oddly enough, the CO of the Battle Corps is piloting a pink Rifleman in the Jihad era ...

But I think it's a Marik Militia - lighter purple than I use, with red & blue trim.

[Decoy]

If it's a hero 'mech, than it's an Ace Custom paint scheme. It doesn't look like Legend Killer and it's not "Gentleman Johnny" Clavell's scheme then....Janos Marik's Rifleman? I'm not discounting they're inventing someone though.

[Flieger]

Legend Killer with its rumoured special nature would be a good choice, imo.

I can't say I am overly thrilled, since my feelings towards that mech are largely neutral. No nostalgia. It will probably work ok in game for reasons already discussed and if it does it diversifies the line-up of heavies actually used in game. Perhaps I'll get one with C-Bills, but not with real money ...

... that is, if it is a single mech-pack. Perhaps it will be bundled with other new mechs, but I doubt that.

[Hawktel]

For me the Rifleman is the mech that got me into the game. The original RPG Cover with the Rifleman on the cover was the first book I bought, and the Rifleman was the first miniature I purchased. I still have it.

But on the MWO side, I hope they hold off releasing this mech. between the Marauder/Warhammer MWO release, and the Kick starter, I'd prefer If they didn't dump this on us till January.

[martian]

I like the new Rifleman, perhaps with the exception of its cockpit.

Those arms are just next to the cokpit which is good. When raised, those arms could perhaps shield both side torsos.

However, I am afraid that those gun barrels on the actual game model will be much shorter or even outright missing. Only short stubs, instead of proper barrels.


As for the Hero 'Mech, I would say that it will be Legend Killer.

[martian]

Rifleman

Standard Pack
$20

3 Rifleman Standard Variants

    - RFL-3N
    - RFL-3C
    - RFL-5D

Collector Pack
$40

3 Rifleman Standard Variants

    - RFL-3N
    - RFL-3C
    - RFL-5D

1 Special Variant with custom Pattern, and a +30% C-Bill boost

    - RFL-3N (S)

Hero Add-On
$15

Hero Rifleman 'Mech to your pack
RFL-LK (Legend-Killer) + 1 MechBay

[Hawktel]

Well that was futile on my part...

Do you feel that it is a typo that the $40 pack gets 1 warhorn? It was 3x Warhorns with the Mad and Hammer pack.

I like the Legend Killer. Quad AC5 is always a good time. But so short on Ammo.

I wonder what a Rifleman 5D with 8 Medium Pulse Lasers would do. I think that might be a viable set.

I do think a Legend Killer with 2x AC2, and 4 Medium Pulse and some armor could be fun. Like a big Blackjack.

[martian]

Do you feel that it is a typo that the $40 pack gets 1 warhorn? It was 3x Warhorns with the Mad and Hammer pack.

It's possible.

I like the Legend Killer. Quad AC5 is always a good time. But so short on Ammo.

You can build JagerMech with quad AC-5s, the result is going to be less than ideal. The Cataphract used to be the first working platform with quad AC-5s.

I wonder what a Rifleman 5D with 8 Medium Pulse Lasers would do. I think that might be a viable set.

It will depend on what quirks it is going to be given.

I do think a Legend Killer with 2x AC2, and 4 Medium Pulse and some armor could be fun. Like a big Blackjack.

Well, Blackjacks can be equipped with jump jets.

[Atlas3060]

Damn that torso just looks strange.
I'm glad they brought back the old ride, but wow so strange.  :o

[martian]

Do you feel that it is a typo that the $40 pack gets 1 warhorn? It was 3x Warhorns with the Mad and Hammer pack.

So they corrected it. It's 3 Warhorns now.

[Burning Chrome]

Not a fan, mostly due to the jutting-forward cockpit.

Like Martian, I fear this one will not live up to the concept art because of the ridiculousness of MWO's "standard-sized' weapons.  AC-5 barrels are no where near that girth/length anymore.  The stubby/mewly armed Jagermech looks pathetic to the point I sold mine.

Hate what happened to my Ilya. >:(

Curious to see what the in-game model will look like.

Still, glad to see it in game, though would've preferred and spent money on a Crusader, Ostroc, Ostsol, or Phoenix Hawk.

For those who will or have purchased, congrats.

[Jayof9s]

Still, glad to see it in game, though would've preferred and spent money on a Crusader, Ostroc, Ostsol, or Phoenix Hawk.

I feel like the Crusader or Phoenix Hawk are more likely than an OST. And that said, the Crusader is probably more likely, considering they did Warhammer (70), Marauder (75), and Rifleman (60) the Crusader (65) seems like the next logical option.

Nothing against the Crusader but I'd rather see the Phoenix Hawk.

I suppose the Archer is another option even if it's another 70 tonner.

[Wrangler]

I like how this looks.  It's take body of the old Archer's body, making i leaner, with reseen's Archer's cockpit (big bay window kind) and shrinks it, while retaining older Rifleman's legs.  I hope it's included in HBS's game.

[martian]

Legend Killer's loadout and hardpoints changed:

PGI changed the loadout from quad AC-5s and ballistic arms to LL/LBX-10 loadout and combined energy/ballistic arms.

[BATTLEMASTER]

It looks like it more closely resembles the Rifleman II.

[martian]

Yes, on 60 ton chassis.

[Sharpnel]

The armor must tissue paper thin then even with all the weight savings goodies.

[martian]

The armor must tissue paper thin then even with all the weight savings goodies.

It would be 128 points in BattleTech.

[martian]

RIFLEMAN ORTOGRAPHIC VIEW



I like how all hardpoints are arranged in one line, on the same level as the cockpit.

[Burning Chrome]

Is there an ortho for the Warhammer?

[Orin J.]

I like how all hardpoints are arranged in one line, on the same level as the cockpit.

i can't wait to see how that screw that up.

looks like the cockpit juts less than the concept art had. good.

[martian]

Is there an ortho for the Warhammer?

No.

[Flieger]

looks like the cockpit juts less than the concept art had. good.

As long as the arms are intact, the cockpit and CT are ok-ishly shielded, it seems. However I am pretty sure it will be easy to hit CT, which on the other hand may validate XLs. ...and the Rifleman may need XL, especially if you want to go at reasonable speeds (which I consider for that weight class to be at least 80 kph).
I am definitely not in the long line of people who call it doa. It is actually one of those Mechs I cannot judge before I have seen it in action. Yep, the hardpoints are high on pit level and it carries the current meta-mech-mix of energy and long range ballistic weapons - all of which is good. At the same time though, the cockpit is not top mounted, exposing quite a bit of the mech when peeking over cover. It is fairly slow for its class (Madcats will outrun, outgun, and outarmour you) and its protruding CT is an easy target.
Again: I have to wait and see.

Legend Killer is definitely an incentive and the very best choice for a hero mech.

[Hawktel]

As long as the arms are intact, the cockpit and CT are ok-ishly shielded, it seems. However I am pretty sure it will be easy to hit CT, which on the other hand may validate XLs. ...and the Rifleman may need XL, especially if you want to go at reasonable speeds (which I consider for that weight class to be at least 80 kph).
I am definitely not in the long line of people who call it doa. It is actually one of those Mechs I cannot judge before I have seen it in action. Yep, the hardpoints are high on pit level and it carries the current meta-mech-mix of energy and long range ballistic weapons - all of which is good. At the same time though, the cockpit is not top mounted, exposing quite a bit of the mech when peeking over cover. It is fairly slow for its class (Madcats will outrun, outgun, and outarmour you) and its protruding CT is an easy target.
Again: I have to wait and see.

Legend Killer is definitely an incentive and the very best choice for a hero mech.

I think you might be a little disappointed with the LK. Max engine is still under 80kph. Also I don't think any mech really competes with the Mad Cat on beating it with Armor, Guns, and Speed.

I'm pretty sure that my LK will have 2x PPC, some smaller laser weaponry, and 4 MG's. I think that PP is going to nerf the Lasers down to backup weapons.

[Jayof9s]

I think you might be a little disappointed with the LK. Max engine is still under 80kph. Also I don't think any mech really competes with the Mad Cat on beating it with Armor, Guns, and Speed.

Yeah, it's almost impossible to beat that mix because of the way the 75 ton chassis works out as very optimal. And of course the Timber Wolf has clan XL, ES, and FF.

You can do smaller designs that go faster or bigger designs with more armor/weapons, but it really is at a sweet spot for being relatively fast, well armed, and well armored.

[martian]

As long as PGI refuses to use some balancing mechanism such as 10:12 or some kind of BV, the Rifleman will be always in disadvantage when compared with the Madcat.