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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #660 on: 14 March 2020, 22:26:55 »
Ended up going with Septima Tasia Vasilyev. Now all she has to do is survive tomorrow's game...

Out of curiosity, what rocket-equipped vees to we have access to? I know the Hegemony didn't get the rocket Lightning(to my eternal dismay), for example.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #661 on: 15 March 2020, 00:22:34 »
Gladiator II has RLs IIRC . . .
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #662 on: 16 March 2020, 05:02:08 »
While not supported by MUL, I love using the Rocket variant of the Galleon as a Marian (or general Periphery) vehicle.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #663 on: 16 March 2020, 05:40:59 »
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #664 on: 16 March 2020, 07:05:18 »
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #665 on: 16 March 2020, 20:14:17 »
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #666 on: 28 March 2020, 15:22:11 »
So I'm trying to fill out my Auxilia minis, and have run into a quandary.

I've got a Century in my VI Legio forces with a Von Luckner, two Light SRM Carriers, and a Hetzer, needing one more vee. Nothing subtle, a close-range bruising formation.

I've got another Century for IV Legio, a light fire support group of two Hunters and three Strikers.

I want to put a Ranger in here somewhere. So you think I should just put it in the close assault unit as a flanker/squishy squisher, or should I transfer a Striker over to give them some ranged support and put the Ranger in the light unit as an escort?
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #667 on: 28 March 2020, 20:03:39 »
Just for the sake of it, would you consider moving things around?

Three strikers & two light SRMs gives similar movement profiles, all wheeled. Sure, the IF capacity drops, but anyone coming around the hill they're hiding behind will be surprised.

Then the Von Luckner, Hetzer, and the two Hunters, plus
- DA era, can't go past the Testudo.
- a Schrek or Demolisher always appeal.

I'd probably pick the Schreck for the extra range, and no-one can complain it's not a hard hitter. I'd have the two assaults forward, with the Hunters & Hetzer keeping their flanks clear.

Shame you can't easily get the Von Luckner K100 on a Marian list ... with the right DA piece, it's an easy mod. ;)

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #668 on: 28 March 2020, 20:26:42 »
Did the Marians come up with the Shrek with FF armor?  Not sure why it took decades for someone to do that, but I seem to recall they were the ones that were attributed with its mainstream application.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #669 on: 29 March 2020, 12:51:55 »
The Hunters are already painted, they're the only ones hard-locked for the light Century.

And don't forget, the whole point of this is to fit a Ranger into one of these formations.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #670 on: 29 March 2020, 16:46:36 »
I'd move a Striker, and put the Ranger in the other Century as a guard unit.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #671 on: 01 April 2020, 23:40:22 »
I'd move a Striker, and put the Ranger in the other Century as a guard unit.


I think I'm going to go with this approach.

On another note...I swear it's been answered somewhere in this forum, but for the life of me I cannot find it now. Can anybody find an official source describing how the Hegemony groups their fighters?

(Note: official only, please. Fan conjecture is worse than useless.)
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #672 on: 02 April 2020, 04:21:59 »
I think I'm going to go with this approach.

On another note...I swear it's been answered somewhere in this forum, but for the life of me I cannot find it now. Can anybody find an official source describing how the Hegemony groups their fighters?

(Note: official only, please. Fan conjecture is worse than useless.)

They do 2 per flight, 5 flights to a squadron

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Marian_Hegemony_Armed_Forces

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #673 on: 02 April 2020, 07:44:53 »
Thanks! That page actually linked to the official source I needed, which says 5 to a Century. (It's the section right below the one you quoted.)

Guess my VI Legio fighter squadron just needs one more bird for now, with another 5 when I want to boost it to a Maniple. Doubt I'll try for a full wing.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #674 on: 23 April 2020, 15:28:52 »
Does anyone know of a good paint scheme for the Imps? I've got a couple Kage squads with only basic paint jobs on them right now, and the only thing I have in mind is either generic black, or digging through novels to try and find a scheme used by DEST (for false-flag purposes).
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #675 on: 23 April 2020, 15:37:12 »
Imps? Rare assault 'Mechs, short for Imperials, or Imperio? Other?
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #676 on: 23 April 2020, 15:44:07 »
Yeah, I was confused too b/c he was throwing around DEST false flag . . .
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #677 on: 23 April 2020, 15:47:57 »
I third the motion.  All in favor say Aye.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #678 on: 23 April 2020, 15:52:52 »
Sorry. The Imps are notable warriors in TRO 3058 for the Kage, a couple squads of specops troops in the Ordo Vigilis. Last seen hunting for the then-missing Franz Donner and Black Warriors. Given what happened to Donner, there's no telling what happened to the Imps. I like to think they eventually came home, maybe short a few members, but with some VERY interesting AARs, for those with the clearance to get the unredacted versions.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #679 on: 23 April 2020, 16:54:01 »
Hm, Kage BA would be a really small canvas to make some Dante-esque imp . . . but painting the partial wings as imp wings . . .
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #680 on: 08 July 2020, 16:19:36 »
3027 era Legio question : I want to move a Maniple of Infantry with support on the ground. What do you consider?

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #681 on: 08 July 2020, 16:21:25 »
What do you mean by 'with support' and what kind of troops?
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #682 on: 08 July 2020, 16:41:29 »
Types are most foot, some motor with a few jump thrown in.

And as for support, I want to be able to defend deployment area  and provide called strikes if need be, such as LRM and direct fire. Most of my arty will be done via AC5  Field Guns.

I've used Goblin and Bulldog deployments before...

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #683 on: 08 July 2020, 18:15:07 »
Can you give us a detailed breakdown? I'm still not clear on what you're asking our transport suggestions to carry.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #684 on: 08 July 2020, 18:27:04 »
Now is it you want a full maniple of infantry, plus support, or a maniple of infantry with support?

Let's go the former, because it's more interesting. A Century of foot infantry is 4-10 10-man squads, so let's go big - 10 squads. You need two Heavy APCs to carry this lot, pick whichever motive you're happiest with (but I'd suggest tracked). I'd make them organic transport, not counted to the Century size. Then for the second Century go wild with 5 units - say two mechanised infantry platoon (biker squads! Gotta love neo-Roman infantry on Lawmasters!), a hover infantry platoon, and two AC-5 field gun platoons - effectively self-transporting.

Then whack on a support Century. Bulldogs if you're feeling lavish, otherwise Scorpions, as your 'main battle tanks'. Two Hunters for fire support, or mebbe Strikers. And a Thumper - it's on the MUL for the period - as artillery/AAA.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #685 on: 09 July 2020, 01:50:29 »
In 3027 I would not take hunters: fusion engines. The Marians were not that big at the time. I would take Strikers instead, or LRM carriers. Both are basically 20 century tech, so they should be able to be made locally.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #686 on: 09 July 2020, 03:16:16 »
Good point!
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #687 on: 09 July 2020, 11:07:33 »
You think Weapon Carriers are a good thing? I got the old FASA Reinforcements 5: Vehicles.

Or should I run the AC version of the LBX Carrier?

Was looking to improve my Legio with more, flesh.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #688 on: 09 July 2020, 11:36:37 »
3027 era Legio question : I want to move a Maniple of Infantry with support on the ground. What do you consider?

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Sorry if i sound like a dork, but i think that by 3027 the MHAF organized along the IS lines. The whole Century-Maniple-Cohor came with Sean between 3048-52. At least acording to The Periphery - 1692, page 56.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #689 on: 10 July 2020, 00:53:04 »
Damn! I know when the Comstar Guards And Militia went mad for the number six, but missed this! My bad. But still fun.
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