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Tinman427

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Planning on being in town the weekend of the 13/14th and looking at bringing my newly painted Wolves versus their long time nemesis (nemisi?) the Jade Falcons so just bring your dice.

Would also like to learn how to play Star Wars: Armada since you got me hooked, picked up some Star Destroyers and the like

So Saturday/Sunday at GenX? Which days for what? If just one then Battletech wins of course
Clan Ghost Bear Omega Galaxy/Pi Galaxy
2nd Sword of Light
Clan Wolf Beta Galaxy
Clan Jade Falcon Epsilon Galaxy
Clan Smoke Jaguar Delta Galaxy
Clan Diamond Shark Alpha Galaxy
Clan Steel Viper Gamma Galaxy
5th Lyran Guards

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I think we talked about playing Gaslands that Sunday, but nothing's set in stone.

I'll go with whatever everyone else wants to play.
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Also, we only play on Sundays these days, but if you've got a hankering for a Saturday game, these guys look pretty cool:

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=64692.msg1488412#msg1488412
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
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Gaslands is always fun.  I’ll try to get myself out of the house for that.
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Tinman427

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Sounds good, Sunday the 14th it is, I will bring the Wolves and Falcons, see you then
Clan Ghost Bear Omega Galaxy/Pi Galaxy
2nd Sword of Light
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Clan Jade Falcon Epsilon Galaxy
Clan Smoke Jaguar Delta Galaxy
Clan Diamond Shark Alpha Galaxy
Clan Steel Viper Gamma Galaxy
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Hope it's not a crazy big fight. These days we usually don't start actually playing until 1:00 or so, and lately we've gotten spoiled by games where even if we didn't finish, the end was sometimes in sight. Definitely not possible with the huge forces that used to be the norm.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
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"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
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i'm down, but i am also worried about the size of the fight. i think that realistically we're going to have to cut down what you and Darrel usually play if we're going to get past turn two. sorta like a couple weeks ago where Weirdo and i almost finished a game of AS before you guys got very far. frankly i really want to find some way to get you to try Alpha Strike. AS just has a tactical payoff that i've really come to appreciate.

DUDE, almost forgot. you and I are gonna need to play the hell out of the new Tokosha flashpoint book. Omni Corvis, i choose you!
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I have printed out a copy of the file including the Alpha Strike and standard record sheets; should I add any duplicates?
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Ha ha, Binary versus Binary should go pretty quick, just mechs nothing else
Clan Ghost Bear Omega Galaxy/Pi Galaxy
2nd Sword of Light
Clan Wolf Beta Galaxy
Clan Jade Falcon Epsilon Galaxy
Clan Smoke Jaguar Delta Galaxy
Clan Diamond Shark Alpha Galaxy
Clan Steel Viper Gamma Galaxy
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I have printed out a copy of the file including the Alpha Strike and standard record sheets; should I add any duplicates?

could i get a copy pleeeeeease?

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My only in-thread on this: I am still a mod, and expected to enforce forum rules around here, including rule 10.

Don't make me drag other mods in here...please?
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
There's no shame in designing customs, so long as you keep them private and wash your hands afterwards.

Tinman427

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Already downloaded Tokasha, I have actually been eyeing a Lupus and the other Golden Century stuff

Does anyone have a Hell's Horses force?

Ah for the halcyon days of the 90s when we brought massive forces and took over the back room at Lone Star Comics.

This will be a fast one, I have the maps and mechs, just need cheat sheets and some extra markers
Clan Ghost Bear Omega Galaxy/Pi Galaxy
2nd Sword of Light
Clan Wolf Beta Galaxy
Clan Jade Falcon Epsilon Galaxy
Clan Smoke Jaguar Delta Galaxy
Clan Diamond Shark Alpha Galaxy
Clan Steel Viper Gamma Galaxy
5th Lyran Guards

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HUZZAH...….the new map sets have arrived (well my special order did)
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I was planning on dropping by this weekend, but remembered that that would be Easter Sunday. The store won't be open Easter Sunday, right?

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Actually, the store may be open but none of US will be there.
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Fair enough

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So what's on the agenda for this Sunday (28th)? Do I need to load up the car (or just bring my new smart-phone)?
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Howzabout Gaslands?
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
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That works for me :thumbsup:
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Gaslands! I'll have some cars ready to go :thumbsup:
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Would anybody be interested in doing Star Wars trivia in Addision this Saturday?  Starts at 9 PM at Zolis NY Pizza, 14910 Midway Road, free to play and prizes for the top three teams
Clan Ghost Bear Omega Galaxy/Pi Galaxy
2nd Sword of Light
Clan Wolf Beta Galaxy
Clan Jade Falcon Epsilon Galaxy
Clan Smoke Jaguar Delta Galaxy
Clan Diamond Shark Alpha Galaxy
Clan Steel Viper Gamma Galaxy
5th Lyran Guards

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I'll be working, sorry.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
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Hey guys,

I'd like to run an Alpha Strike scenario to try out some of the stuff I'm kicking around for the Tokosha campaign. Mostly bidding, zell, and the use of random forces.

For the campaign each of you would be, essentially, a ristar Star Captain. Your Star Colonel wants to see what you are capable of so every mission you will bid for the honor to command the mission. Players will be given a briefing about the mission, along with a max deployment size. They will be given a few minutes to put together a bid to tackle the mission, drawn from the unit's available combat resources. The main balancing mechanic is chance (what is available via RATs) and strategic planning (how well you use what is available), not BV. After you choose a force everyone puts theirs down and bidding begins. Now you may be asking yourself ’why should I only take a binary when I could do it comfortably with a trinary?'  Because first of all, it's The Way of the Clans, you freebirth surrat! On a more practical level bidding yields it's own rewards. Undercutting the value of your force will get you extra free SPAs, the ability to change mechs or battle conditions, or other map-exclusive events. The more you shave down your force, the more you get. You'll also be protecting your long-term available resources by using smaller forces. We have very detailed force information and I will roll everything that will be availble. If you are attached to that Kingfisher, you had either better not lose it or you'll have to bid away units to pay for repairs. But perhaps most importantly your Warchest points will be modified by your bids. Essentially, you WILL need to do Clan-like things such as bidding and zell in order to win the campaign.

So for this Sunday Weirdo has already given me two-dozen 2d6 rolls for your forces. On Sunday I'll bring cards for all those units (be they mechs, infantry, air, whatever) and you make a force out of the them. Then we'll start the bidding. Even if forces aren't cut down much I'll still give you guys some points for just getting into the Blood Spirit of things. The mission will then begin. All this is to see if: 1) I will need to have someone helping me with sheets and die rolls, 2) see if bidding is a cool and fun idea or a pipe dream, and 3) see how using random units works out for us.

The grand idea for the campaign is that, rather than tracking repairs and credits like a typical Merc campaign, this one would feel like a Clan campaign. Your resources are personal honor and victory in combat. You'll have to balance cautious planning and bold fighting, because as the attackers in the scenario your opponents have more resources and better positions than you do, even if they are technically outnumbered. In order to win in the end you'll have to learn how to bid, where to strike, and when to retreat. I'm planning to use multiple systems as we go, namely because the campaign packet does so. That means some Aerotech fights will be sprinkled in, and there is an infantry scenario that will be in either Battletech or Battletroops if we wanted to try it. Smaller or more important fights will be in BT, but the majority of the time we'll be using Alpha Strike to simulate the large clashes between the Horses and Bears. The campaign could be long or short... depends on if everyone is having fun.

Now I freely admit that some of this may need to be simplified or tossed alltogether. But I do think we should give it a try first. But one thing that will be an issue no matter how simple or complex the campaign is time. As I've said before we can't not finish campaign battles. That means we'll have to start earlier, and I'll be keeping a clock. I want us to be ready to go by 1230 and rolling by 1
 You won't get two hours to look over the forces and decide on bids. More like 15 minutes. You'll probably be shaving down your units as you go anyway so you're really just picking your ideal starting lineup. If this becomes too complex or time-consuming I will toss the concept, but starting early and moving fast through turns will be a must.

So there you have it. Weirdo has generously allowed us to use his Star League mechs to represent the Ghost Bears. This time I'll use my plastics to stand in for the Horses, but we can see about using someone else's nicely painted minis for the long haul.

Questions? Comments? Thrown fruit?
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Barring the unexpected, I should be able to make Sunday gaming for the for-seeable future. I have LOTS of clan mechs (OMNI and 2nd line), vehicles and BA. If you need anything, let me know.
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Do you need a list of my available SLDF stuff?
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"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
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Barring the unexpected, I should be able to make Sunday gaming for the for-seeable future. I have LOTS of clan mechs (OMNI and 2nd line), vehicles and BA. If you need anything, let me know.

Excellent. The thing is, we're going to need to proxy no matter what. Unless you have a dozen Shadow Hawk IICs laying around :P.  So I'm more concerned about maintaining a consistent look for each side than I am worried about matching up tech.

Do you need a list of my available SLDF stuff?

Thanks bro, but I think we're just going to have to wing it no matter what. As long as you can cover a minimum of two binaries worth of hardware at a time we should be fine.  I plan to have you guys see your available unit lists and bid here on the forums during the campaign to free up as much time for actual missions during the weekend so you should be able to pick and chose how you want the final bid represented ahead of time. 'Should' being the operative word of course.
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The realities of minis gaming means we have to have at least a bit of warning as to what will be fielded, at least on our side. "Bring everything" is not viable, and you're going to see twitching if you ask someone to use a Battlemaster to proxy for a Locust..especially if they have a Locust, in the exact same colors, that they could easily have brought if they'd been asked beforehand.

Having no control over what we're fielding is one thing. I'm actually looking forward to that. Having no warning is another thing entirely. At the least, if I'm going to be providing proxies, I need to know which proxies to bring.
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"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
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i understand that. i have a little experience lugging minis around myself, you know. :P like i said the goal is to have the forces worked out beforehand each week. i've been brute-forcing the list construction today so i now actually have something to give you for sunday. behold, the basis for your force: ...see attached picture. im doing all my spreadsheets on Drive so i can probably provide links in the future but for now this is what i got. i'll get the briefing up tonight.

the stripped down version is something like this: a formal Trial of Possession for several tons of raw resources. this is a trial, not a raid, so more of a standup fight. it will take place in and around the warehouses that store the materials, and the circle of equals will include the surrounding area as well. the Horses will bid a binary from their Beta Galaxy as the defending force. your commander will allow you to take no more two stars worth of warriors to engage them.



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Ive got some Golden Century Bears I am working on for this, should be an interesting combo
Clan Ghost Bear Omega Galaxy/Pi Galaxy
2nd Sword of Light
Clan Wolf Beta Galaxy
Clan Jade Falcon Epsilon Galaxy
Clan Smoke Jaguar Delta Galaxy
Clan Diamond Shark Alpha Galaxy
Clan Steel Viper Gamma Galaxy
5th Lyran Guards

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I can cover five to seven of the mechs (provided I can find my Foxes and Great Wyrms); I have only 2 Glass Spiders though.
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