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Yeah, I've only got one, and nowhere near enough of anything that would make a good proxy.

Whistler - This is why I offered to send you a list of what I have, so you'd know when to start rerolling duplicates. As is, it is literally impossible for the entire force to have a cohesive paint scheme, which as I recall was your top priority.
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Also, where's the remaining fighters? You only listed five, half of a Star.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
"...I was this many years old when I found out that licking a touchscreen in excitement is a bad idea." - JadeHellbringer

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HUZZAH...…I found my TWO Great Wyrms. However, I would like a clarification on which Fox is needed; I have two Snow Foxes and several Kit Foxes (Ullers).
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Just Fox. The new mech in there that's like a 50-ton Crusader.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
"...I was this many years old when I found out that licking a touchscreen in excitement is a bad idea." - JadeHellbringer

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i think Weirdo has the Ghost Bears covered. even if we have most of the minis i would rather keep the look consistent and just proxy everything. but if it comes down to smaller game of BT or something and we have all the minis we need that may be a different story. we shall see.

Yeah, I've only got one, and nowhere near enough of anything that would make a good proxy.

Whistler - This is why I offered to send you a list of what I have, so you'd know when to start rerolling duplicates. As is, it is literally impossible for the entire force to have a cohesive paint scheme, which as I recall was your top priority.

ah. sure man, go ahead and send it to me. as for the fighters, for simplicity sake assume that a point of (x) is both tanks or aircraft in the point.
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I figure you all have mothers so no one will show up.  I might just go anyway to catch up on my grading.
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I will be there; I'll throw a couple of things in the car.
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Any stores in the Dallas area with the Box set?

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I've seen the intro box at GenX in Euless on occasion, but not consistently. Haven't checked other places.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
"...I was this many years old when I found out that licking a touchscreen in excitement is a bad idea." - JadeHellbringer

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I've seen the intro box at GenX in Euless on occasion, but not consistently. Haven't checked other places.
     

Any were near Arlington still carry Battletech?

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Wild West Comics...might?
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
"...I was this many years old when I found out that licking a touchscreen in excitement is a bad idea." - JadeHellbringer

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Called them yesterday.  They said they do not anymore

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So what's on tap for next Sunday?
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My vacation week is coming up(or so I hope) so I will try to be there on the 26th.

In other news: New Rammstein, AND Captain Dan album this week :laughing_skull:

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so. i feel like last weekend was a success. for those who are interested but didnt manage to make it, the Ghost Bears (players) took on the Hell's Horses (GM) in a trial. the bidding seemed to go fine, but the Bears ended up being pretty far under the Horses in terms of PV. however they still came pretty close to pulling out a win thanks to the massive heap of special abilities they received. things could have gone quite differently had the Horses not managed to win the initiative when it really counted. the Bears requested and were granted higara to ensure that no additional resources were lost on either side.

okay, so. i feel like we got down some of the basics in our test game and i am feeling pretty good about the campaign. some things may however need to be tweeked as we go. i think we're good to start the campaign this weekend, so lets get into the particulars of this our first game. while i'm not about to retype or repost the scenario from the campaign PDF, i can tell you the basics:

1. it'll be an AeroTech game. i realize we dont play AT much but i think we can get through it.
2. Weirdo has sent me a list of minis so i will be putting the available force lists up here in this post.
3. there will be no bidding for this battle. according to the scenario the pilots of each clan are essentially looking for a fight instead of scouting. hopefully this will keep things a little more even in an unfamiliar system.
4. if there are no bids why am i posting the force list? im trying to get used to it and you'll have an idea what you're going to get. plus i want to give Weirdo a heads up on what minis we'll need.
5. the forces are dead even so there will be no extra bonuses for either side.
6. Zell will be in full effect. Both sides operate at Honor Level 2. Both sides are also operating under Forced Withdrawal. when Forced the controlling player rolls to see if the unit refuses to retreat for the remainder of the battle.

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Hells Horses fighter points:
Corsair (Corsair), Xerxes (Heavy Strike Fighter), Gotha (Stingray)

Ghost Bear fighter points:
Samurai (Samurai), Hellcat II (Shilone), Eagle (Eagle)

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I'll be sure to bring them, plus a couple extra cheat sheets since most folks won't exactly be fluent in Aero. I assume this will be Total War, as opposed to Alpha Strike?

(I'm fine either way.)
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"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
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i was defaulting to AS while putting the list together. the scenario really doesn't say either way. do you have a recommendation as to which would work better for us, or even which we would like better?
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Gotta be honest, I've never actually tried a dogfight in Alpha Strike.

In Total War, units move around the hexmap and have firing arcs, much like the ground game. In Alpha Strike, units move around the radar map I brought last time, and you can only attack stuff in the same sector. Instead of maneuvering for position, a couple die rolls per fighter each turn determines if two fighters are shooting at each other head to head, or if one has gotten into a trailing position, and at what range the attacks are made at.

If you're wanting something akin to our Crimson Skies or X-Wing games, you might be disappointed by the abstraction of Alpha Strike air combat. On the other hand, we're almost certain to be able to play the game to completion.

I'm good either way.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
"...I was this many years old when I found out that licking a touchscreen in excitement is a bad idea." - JadeHellbringer

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Competition takes priority. If we need to we can knock it down to two points per side. Could you print the sheets though? I can print from the mul but I don't really have AT sheets.
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I'm confused. Is the final decision Alpha Strike or Total War?
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
"...I was this many years old when I found out that licking a touchscreen in excitement is a bad idea." - JadeHellbringer

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Sorry about the delay, guys. For those of you who didn't make it to the first game of the campaign, things didn't go well for the Bears. Though the Bears made planetfall, it was mostly by sheer weight of force. The Horse aerospace forces put up a tenacious defense, forcing many Bear dropships to divert to alternative landing zones. Though only a small handful of ships were lost the disruption of the Bears deployment is significant.

I'll post the scenario for this week when I get home, including available forces. You guys will have an entire cluster to choose from when building your bids. Just keep in mind that we'll need to have the bid locked in before Sunday so Weirdo and I can assemble minis. The scenario will be randomly generated but properly flavored so we'll just have to wait and see what the dice have in store for us!

And yes in the future I will do my utmost to get these AARs and briefings up on Monday or Tuesday.

important edit:

further expanding on the results for the first mission, the Horses managed to destroy more than 2/3rds of the Bears forces while loosing about 1/3rd of their own. both forces managed the First Contact objective, which nets +200 VP for the Bears and Horses both. the Horses also hit the A Hotly Disputed Matter objective, worth another 200 VP. that means that the end net result is 200 VP for the Horses, as well as +1 to the Horses initiative until the mission track Chop and Change. In addition, the Horses get two airstrikes that can be used at any time. this isn't per mission, its total.
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the next scenario for the campaign will be: Capture the Flag.

after the initial landing on Tokasha, many defeated Ghost Bear aerospace pilots (as well as a Mechwarrior who jumped from his descending DropShip) were made bondsmen by victorious Hell's Horses pilots. the commander of the Bear's 1st Bear Guards issued a challenge demanding their return. the terms of the challenge state that for the chance to reclaim their warriors, the Horses get to keep any and all salvage left on the field, regardless of who wins. in game terms this means that, when putting together units in the future, if the Bears roll a unit that has been lost in this battle it is automatically rerolled. if they roll a lost unit on the reroll it will be kept. so be careful if there are any mechs you like in your force.

as this is a challenge, the warriors will not literally be fighting over the warriors themselves. a large, mech-scale flag will be placed in an area between the two clan's deployment zones. the Bear's objective is simple: grab the flag and return it to their starting zone. a mech with hands (since this will be in alpha strike hand damage is irrelevant. as long as the art depicts a hand it will be fine) must pick up the flag and return it to the Bear dropzone. if successful the Bears will regain both useful human resources and some of their honor. if the Horses repel them they will salvage useful equipment and retain their bondsmen. the Horses may not destroy the flag but may otherwise defend it as they see fit.

the initial bid on the Bears side is the 1st Bear Guards (note: since i didnt add it to the unit list their Specials are Strategic Planning and Family). the Horse's Forces consist of elements of the 666th Mechanized Assault cluster. they have bid one Star and one Nova for the trial. we will flip a coin before the start of the game to determine starting sides as well as who is the Attacker.

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Game Setup:
recommended terrain: factory, mountain, jungle, clear
the Loremaster will choose four maps, arranged as he sees fit, for the battle. Attacker and Defender will start on opposite sides of the map, within three hexes of the outside map edge.

Objectives:
1. Snag That Flag. (Clan Ghost Bear) Retrieve the flag from the central pilon and escape of your starting map side. [300 VP]
2. Firewall. (Clan Hell's Horses) Prevent the flag from being recovered. [150 VP]
3. Scrap. (Clan Hell's Horses) Recover a destroyed enemy unit. [10 VP per unit]
4. Drive Them Off. Destroy more than 50% of the enemy force. [100 VP]
5. Beat Them Down. Eliminate or drive off all enemy Mech/vehicle forces. [200 VP]

Special Rules:
- Grab The Flag: In order to grab the flag a unit with hand actuators must stop next to the hex occupied by the flag. During the weapons phase he may then declare that he is going pick up the flag. the unit may not fire during the weapons phase as they are spending that time picking up the flag. they will then begin the next turn in possession of the flag. units may pass the flag to each other in a similar manner. if two opposing units both attempt to grab the flag in the same turn they will conduct an opposed physical combat check. the winner will take possession of the flag. units carrying the flag may not fire weapons nor use sprinting movement unless they have a specific SPA that may allow them to do so. it is important to note that flag carriers are outside the normal bounds of Zellbrigen and may be freely targeted by opposing units. if a flag carrier is destroyed then the flag may be recovered from their wreckage.

Zellbrigen:
Zellbrigen is in effect and both sides will operate at Honor Level 2. Please note  that flag carriers are outside the normal bounds of Zellbrigen and may be freely targeted by opposing units.

Forced Withdrawl:
Both sides are operating under Forced Withdrawl conditions. Roll 1d6 for each warrior/point falling under Forced Withdrawl conditions. on a result of 1-3 the warrior/point refuses the leave the battlefield for the rest of the battle.

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Is each supernova a Binary or a Trinary?

(Or did you just mean to say two Novas?)
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"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
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updated. if you mean the Horse's forces they have been changed to a star and a nova.

if a unit's TO&E says it is a Nova/Supernova then assume that each mech point is accompanied by a point of Elementals. they are, after all, the only BA around at the time. the Elemental Points can be bid away like any other individual unit.
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Do we post our bids here?
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
"...I was this many years old when I found out that licking a touchscreen in excitement is a bad idea." - JadeHellbringer

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I bid the 310th star2 and 312th star2
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I bid 312th, Stars 2 and 3.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
"...I was this many years old when I found out that licking a touchscreen in excitement is a bad idea." - JadeHellbringer

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as it stands Weirdo currently has the low bid. any other trothkin going to make it sunday? if so make your bids quick because it looks like sevengates and Weirdo are about to start shaving their forces down. to be clear, they don't have to, but you know what i mean... sevengates, you can try to undercut the bid if you so choose.

i forgot to mention, since i am figuring that this may come up later on, if you want to use alternate munitions thats fine. just mention it before hand for me and make sure the sheet is clearly marked. anything that was available at the time and non-experimental is fine. as for any Omnis in your force, you can pick the model. if i am printing a sheet and the configuration is not specified then i will just assume you want the prime config. these options may change depending on your battle results or your general VP standing.
« Last Edit: 23 May 2019, 19:58:47 by whistler »
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if there are no further bids and no cutdown by the end of tonight then Weirdo will have won the batchall and will lead the Bears into battle sunday. i'll work up the relative value of the bid and tell you what you get to work with so please have your SPAs figured out ahead of time. i also want you to have some time to work out some strategy and plan whatever minis you want to use. as long as they aren't bare plastics take what you wish. the sides should be easy to identify. on sunday we'll set up the map, flip for attacker, and you'll get a chance to observe the enemy force and make whatever adjustments you want to your plans. the Trial will begin no later than 1.
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Oh, yeah.  I need my Robotech stuff back Weirdo and Sevengates you were going to lend me Girls Und Panzer.
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