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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #180 on: 18 July 2017, 20:02:51 »
We need primitive Valkyrie (or a precursor to Valkyrie....like the Swordman)

it's called the Firebee.
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #181 on: 18 July 2017, 21:31:18 »
Since we lost a chunk of posts from the restore, can we get a 'The Story So Far' - even if it's just 'we can't talk about it' perhaps?

At this juncture, I would just like to know if there will be anymore updates forthcoming.  I'm sure everyone at IWM would love to let us know what's going on, but higher powers are stopping that it would seem.
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #182 on: 18 July 2017, 22:52:38 »
higher powers are stopping that it would seem.



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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #183 on: 19 July 2017, 01:06:33 »
Well there you go, all is explained.  I will sleep much better tonight  ::)
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #184 on: 20 July 2017, 20:37:57 »
I won't. Now all I can see when I blink is pope vader's cold metal face!

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #185 on: 20 July 2017, 20:57:13 »
I won't. Now all I can see when I blink is pope vader's cold metal face!

Metropolitan Patriarch Vader, more like -- that dude's Orthodox, not Catholic  ;D

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #186 on: 20 July 2017, 21:34:49 »
Adds a whole new layer to "I find your lack of faith ... disturbing" ;)

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #187 on: 20 July 2017, 23:36:49 »
Somebody give this man a rim shot please  8)
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #188 on: 21 July 2017, 00:38:49 »
<resists temptation to make joke that would result in having to Warn myself ...>
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #189 on: 21 July 2017, 04:26:18 »
<resists temptation to make joke that would result in having to Warn myself ...>



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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #190 on: 21 July 2017, 12:17:13 »
Well played Domi.
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #191 on: 21 July 2017, 13:00:05 »
Coffee out the nose with laughter.  Thanks guys  ;D  Now to clean up the mess...
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #192 on: 21 July 2017, 15:23:13 »
Well played Domi.

In the context of this conversation, the irony of your forum handle is almost overwhelming.  8)
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #193 on: 21 July 2017, 17:27:43 »
It's almost a year old, so it may or may not be the case, but this may provide a partial answer to the classics holdup

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=52246.msg1244504#msg1244504


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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #194 on: 21 July 2017, 17:32:14 »
The wait is painful to me. I don't know if I should save my four new wasps, or if I can safely slice up two of them for conversion (one to a 1L, one to a one handed version of the 1A).

I mean, the folks at Catalyst and Iron Wind Metals need to do what they need to do. I'm just saying that if they loved me, they'd give me more wasps.

And battlemasters.  :P
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #195 on: 21 July 2017, 17:38:16 »
The wait is painful to me. I don't know if I should save my four new wasps, or if I can safely slice up two of them for conversion (one to a 1L, one to a one handed version of the 1A).

I mean, the folks at Catalyst and Iron Wind Metals need to do what they need to do. I'm just saying that if they loved me, they'd give me more wasps.

And battlemasters.  :P

All in good time. The good news is that given that they don't seem to be in any legally-imposed hurry to remove any Classics artwork from official/quasi-official sites (such as the MUL) and the Beemer and Thud were shown in all their glory in 2SW, it looks like there's no catstrophic lawsuit barrage from They That Shall Not Be Named that's gotten CGL's Baseball Card Overlords in panic mode.

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #196 on: 21 July 2017, 18:38:07 »
All in good time. The good news is that given that they don't seem to be in any legally-imposed hurry to remove any Classics artwork from official/quasi-official sites (such as the MUL) and the Beemer and Thud were shown in all their glory in 2SW, it looks like there's no catstrophic lawsuit barrage from They That Shall Not Be Named that's gotten CGL's Baseball Card Overlords in panic mode.

If I recall...the Battlemaster & Thunderbolt are NOT Harmony Gold I.P., hence they are ok to use (for whatever reason).
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #197 on: 21 July 2017, 18:58:20 »
If I recall...the Battlemaster & Thunderbolt are NOT Harmony Gold I.P., hence they are ok to use (for whatever reason).

Yeah, but the last time this reared its ugly head in 2009 they were also not Harmony Gold IP and they yanked them from even licit uses out of fears of litigation. All I'm saying is let's us not go "Chicken Little" just yet. Once we see a couple of stars actually crash-land, then maybe the sky is falling  ;)

In other words...

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #198 on: 21 July 2017, 20:39:35 »
I would be very upset if the lame horse of a company Harmony Gold had managed to yet again get in the way of BattleTech. Considering they haven't done anything of note in years, it feels utterly unfair to be stymied by them again.

However, considering that 1st Succession War and the Combat Manuals are still for sale and have not had their covers altered AND the designs of concern are still a part of Mechwarrior ONLINE we are hopefully in the clear. Perhaps the Classics are going to be returned to us as part of the new box set a la BattleTech 3rd edition. That does feel fitting...

... also, I totally recommended that a few months ago.
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #199 on: 21 July 2017, 21:24:53 »
Most likely CGL had IWM pull the Macross designs to so they could have them in plastic first for the box sets and lance packs. As long as the various books are not pulled and have the art (CO has the Marauder on the front cover after all) removed/swapped there is no reason to spread doom. Gloom is ok since IWM teased us with the Wasp.

We already know IWM has 12 metal classics lined up. Two are out, Wasp and Valkyrie are now MIA, but we don't know yet which others they have lined up. Considering the number of unseen and halfseen (Ost series) there is still plenty to speculate about. I just wish Speck had more information he could share about this :-\

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #200 on: 21 July 2017, 22:53:08 »
No one on this board who is not named "Speck" should be using the phrases "probably", "most likely", "good chance", or anything that indicates any kind of informed knowledge of the variables behind the scenes that influence likelihood, because I am slightly more than 100% certain that no one here does.
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #201 on: 22 July 2017, 10:34:28 »
There is probably most likely a good chance that Scotty is right... But I remain optimistic as long as the books containing artwork and photos of Classics designs remain available for purchase. That's the canary in the coal mine.

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #202 on: 22 July 2017, 16:01:00 »
Yeah, but the last time this reared its ugly head in 2009 they were also not Harmony Gold IP and they yanked them from even licit uses out of fears of litigation. All I'm saying is let's us not go "Chicken Little" just yet. Once we see a couple of stars actually crash-land, then maybe the sky is falling  ;)

In other words...

Yeah, I agree...people are far to quick to jump on the H.G. thing. Maybe it is true, maybe it isn't...it's not our place to know otherwise we would have been told by now I would imagine.
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #203 on: 22 July 2017, 17:40:17 »
Although... I just got a look at the table of contents for the new Succession Wars TRO at RPGNow.com (I'm going to buy it later at home when I'm not on a public Wi-Fi... anyone who does that is just begging to have their identity stolen  ;) ) and it looks like they've only included the non-Macross unseens in the book (specifically the Locust, Griffin, Shadow Hawk, Wolverine, Thunderbolt, and BattleMaster -- the Wasp, Stinger, Valkyrie, Phoenix Hawk, Warhammer, Archer, Marauder, Rifleman and Longbow are missing, as well as the Ost-mechs, the Goliath and Scorpion -- BTW on an unrelated note, that Loremaster who was mentioned in 2SW, he is now officially styled as "Star League Loremaster"  :o).

Now while this is not "panic button time", the omissions are telling...  :( >:(
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #204 on: 22 July 2017, 18:31:12 »
Now while this is not "panic button time", the omissions are telling...  :( >:(

It tells us they're not in that particular book. It tells us nothing more and nothing less, and implies nothing.
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #205 on: 22 July 2017, 19:25:24 »


Although... I just got a look at the table of contents for the new Succession Wars TRO at RPGNow.com (I'm going to buy it later at home when I'm not on a public Wi-Fi... anyone who does that is just begging to have their identity stolen  ;) ) and it looks like they've only included the non-Macross unseens in the book (specifically the Locust, Griffin, Shadow Hawk, Wolverine, Thunderbolt, and BattleMaster -- the Wasp, Stinger, Valkyrie, Phoenix Hawk, Warhammer, Archer, Marauder, Rifleman and Longbow are missing, as well as the Ost-mechs, the Goliath and Scorpion -- BTW on an unrelated note, that Loremaster who was mentioned in 2SW, he is now officially styled as "Star League Loremaster"  :o).

Now while this is not "panic button time", the omissions are telling...  :( >:(

As a counterpoint, the Goliath and Scorpion are not Macross designs, and you can still buy the Ostscout in mini form.

EDIT: So the ostscout is in the book. Still though, you can still buy the primitive wasp.
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Good news is the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show an immediate latency of 44.6 years. So if you're thirty or over you're laughing. Worst case scenario you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you've forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face.

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #206 on: 22 July 2017, 23:30:58 »
The primitive wasp looks nothing like the macross design though.

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #207 on: 22 July 2017, 23:47:22 »
The primitive wasp looks nothing like the macross design though.

The classic wasp didn't particularly look like the macross design either, and yet here we are.
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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #208 on: 23 July 2017, 00:12:15 »
Go to the Catalyst web store. If there were HG issues, Combat Manuals Kurita and Mercenaries would have been pulled from sale so fast your head would spin, because they both contain art of the new Warhammer, Wasp, and Phoenix Hawk, as well as the Marauder mini. It's way too early to lose hair or sleep over this (although a little transparency from TPTB would be nice).

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Re: Any updates for the Wasp?
« Reply #209 on: 23 July 2017, 00:17:35 »
Go to the Catalyst web store. If there were HG issues, Combat Manuals Kurita and Mercenaries would have... *snip*

I have already repeated this often, though those don't matter as much as the most obvious. The font over for Campaign Operations has the Marauder front and cent. That is the easiest to check for missing Macross art.

 

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