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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #60 on: 13 July 2017, 15:19:51 »
The other way to look at it, of course, is to laud the efforts of the volunteer staff who worked so hard to try to get things untangled while helping move things over to the new server-gurus. That's a pay-less job that took a lot more work than you might realize- we'd probably still be down (or at least not have been able to recover as much as we did) without their efforts.

(And no, that doesn't include me, because I have all the web coding capabilities of a trained chimpanzee, minus the training.)
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #61 on: 13 July 2017, 15:21:34 »
And in a way I find it at least partially re-assuring that CGL felt they could afford the money to have professionals help with restoring their sites.  It does indicate at least something of a healthy revenue stream.

And that Brent has been named LD for Battletech is also re-assuring in a way.  Even before Dragon Fire Randal was obviously trying to wear too many hats.

Still though this incident has eroded the credibility of CGL and underscores just how understaffed they are versus everything they are trying to do.  It has always been a big concern for me that CGL all but shuts down for Con season and this major of an outage combined with them eroding their already strained credibility further is worrying.

Agreed on all points. During the last week I was hearing a lot of rumors saying CGL was getting ready to declare bankrupcy, and that Dragonfire was a last ditch effort before they went under. Hearing that they can afford pros to fix the site is definitely reassuring. I wish CGL all the luck with generating new revenue streams.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #62 on: 13 July 2017, 15:32:05 »
During the last week I was hearing a lot of rumors saying CGL was getting ready to declare bankrupcy...

Not the first time that rumor was speed around, and I'd bet real money it's just as false this time as the last.
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #63 on: 13 July 2017, 16:11:41 »
Not the first time that rumor was speed around, and I'd bet real money it's just as false this time as the last.

Hell, I can remember that rumor flying at GenCon 2011, the game was done for, Catalyst was folding, the convention was just so they could sell off the last stock they had... A few of us even did a winking toast to 'the death of Battletech AGAIN, let's do it again next year!' after-hours.

I don't know what the comany's finances look like. Neither do you. The only people who do are under no obligation to share their books with the fans, just like any other business out there- so let's lay off on the 'ALL IS DOOM' crap- what the company's financial status is like is between them and their accountant, not to you or I.

Go roll some dice, people.
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #64 on: 13 July 2017, 16:43:17 »
The volume of communication I have run through FB shows this to be an incorrect statement.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #65 on: 13 July 2017, 16:51:55 »
The only approved bashing on this site is kit-bashing. And possibly Kit-bashing.

Along with all sorts of dead horses!! ;D
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #66 on: 13 July 2017, 17:18:52 »
That is most certainly *not* approved. They just don't let us enforce it fully, since it would require banning half the forum. :)
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #67 on: 13 July 2017, 18:03:47 »
Go roll some dice, people.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #68 on: 13 July 2017, 18:21:39 »

Go roll some dice, people.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #69 on: 13 July 2017, 19:22:27 »
I don't get people complaining that there was no statement on Facebook/Twitter.  I saw statements from official accounts in both places.
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #70 on: 13 July 2017, 19:30:14 »
I don't know what the company's finances look like. Neither do you. The only people who do are under no obligation to share their books with the fans, just like any other business out there- so let's lay off on the 'ALL IS DOOM' crap- what the company's financial status is like is between them and their accountant, not to you or I.

I agree completely, and I apologize if anyone inferred differently from my post. I was only expressing my own relief at seeing some evidence the rumors were false, and gratitude for it as well, since no one was under any obligations to provide it. I guess next time I'll just keep silent on the matter instead of expressing it if people are taking it any other way than I intended.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #71 on: 13 July 2017, 19:33:50 »
A good rule of thumb: The rumors are always false.

For Battletech: The rumors are ALWAYS false.
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #72 on: 13 July 2017, 19:43:06 »
As bad as things were around here, I've seen worse recently...the Pinnacle website forums were taken down sometime in April or May to be moved over to a new forum system...said they'd be back up around the end of May...end of May came up, and they updated their message on the page to say that something had cropped up, but they'd be back up by June 6...

They haven't changed the message on the forum (the one you get taking the forum link from their main site) since, and it is still showing that message as of about 5 minutes ago...

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #73 on: 13 July 2017, 19:55:46 »
I don't get people complaining that there was no statement on Facebook/Twitter.  I saw statements from official accounts in both places.

I saw the statement on Facebook, but don't follow CGL on Twitter.
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #74 on: 13 July 2017, 20:05:56 »
Part of the problem is that unless I am actively engaged with the CGL facebook feed, facebook likes to hide some of their stuff from me. Even when I go looking on their page it varies from one instance to another what they are showing. Facebook is very unreliable as a news platform in my opinion. I don't know if anyone else runs into the same problem, but I'd assume so.

I don't use twitter at all though, so I have no idea what kind of problems anyone might run into finding news there. If anyone were taking suggestions, I would suggest using reddit for news posts. You can make a subreddit that only allows it's mods to post, and then sticky any announcements you want to make to the top. I've found it a lot easier to get info from than facebook, in multiple communities in the past. Not that any of us actually have a say in the matter, but I also like the idea of an email list.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #75 on: 13 July 2017, 20:13:19 »
Any method's only going to reach those who use that method. How many folks saw messages on the LoTB or OBT forums?

Certainly, getting some sort of 'whoops!' message on the main CGL URLs seems like the best approach. But we're probably not going to joggle the folks finishing up on the restore right now.
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #76 on: 13 July 2017, 20:57:11 »
It would be nice if Googling something like "Battletech forums down?" would show something other than the "is it up?" sites...

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #77 on: 13 July 2017, 20:57:45 »
The Battletech Twitter account did have something a few days before the forums came back up.  I stopped checking the main battletech site back when the April fools joke was still the most recent news story in July.

The Catalyst twitter said nothing .  I kept checking catalyst tumblr figuring there's be at least a quick note about it, but nothing there either. It was the same radio silence when the shadowrun forums got hacked.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #78 on: 13 July 2017, 21:01:24 »
I never saw anything on the CGL Twitter or Facebook... Didn't know there was one for BT though so... But I first read about the hack on the MegaMek slack feed lol

So maybe we should bash Kit and WT to join the MM slack so we can get updated information a lot faster

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #79 on: 13 July 2017, 21:54:45 »
Maybe we as consumers shouldn't expect a volunteer and a freelancer to act as our personal conduit to the inner workings of a company when they honestly might not have much more information than us?  :P
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #80 on: 13 July 2017, 22:22:28 »
True, but still a better option than "other" channels

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #81 on: 13 July 2017, 22:25:44 »
I'll do any WT bashing that's needed. I'm sure I've got some DA missiles which will fit on my elbows ...

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #82 on: 14 July 2017, 01:03:15 »
As bad as things were around here, I've seen worse recently...the Pinnacle website forums were taken down sometime in April or May to be moved over to a new forum system...said they'd be back up around the end of May...end of May came up, and they updated their message on the page to say that something had cropped up, but they'd be back up by June 6...

They haven't changed the message on the forum (the one you get taking the forum link from their main site) since, and it is still showing that message as of about 5 minutes ago...

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #83 on: 14 July 2017, 06:26:34 »
To note: I greatly apperiate the efforts done by everyone who restored the forums.  I am still getting periodic 503 Gateway error once in a while.  I'll report it else where as well.
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #84 on: 14 July 2017, 09:01:04 »
To note: I greatly apperiate the efforts done by everyone who restored the forums.  I am still getting periodic 503 Gateway error once in a while.  I'll report it else where as well.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #85 on: 14 July 2017, 09:07:02 »
I'm also seeing gateway time-outs periodically.  They happen for a few minutes at a time, then clear up.

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #86 on: 14 July 2017, 15:08:53 »
Timeouts (504 and the like) have this thread http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=58034.0

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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #87 on: 14 July 2017, 19:11:25 »
Wait, what? O.o

The forum was on time out? I knew things were getting a little restless but...
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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #88 on: 15 July 2017, 03:52:20 »
I found the answer we have all been searching for...


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Re: So what happened this time?
« Reply #89 on: 15 July 2017, 04:37:05 »
I'm just glad its back and thanks to all the folks who put hard work in to restore the forums.
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