Register Register

Author Topic: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged  (Read 7163 times)

Xotl

  • Deus Errata et regulas Exsecutor
  • Moderator
  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 9152
  • Professor of Errata
Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« on: 06 December 2011, 16:32:02 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with the two PDF-only Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged volumes (Inner Sphere and Clan & Star League).  Please make sure to specify which volume the error is in.  This does NOT include the print version.

Product Links:
http://bg.battletech.com/?wpsc-product=record-sheets-3050-upgrade-unabridged-inner-sphere
http://bg.battletech.com/?wpsc-product=record-sheets-3050-upgrade-unabridged-clan-star-league

Please remember to follow the errata report template when reporting issues.  Thanks.
« Last Edit: 20 June 2012, 02:40:36 by Xotl »
3028-3050 Random Assignment Tables -
Also contains faction deployment & rarity info and Quirk lists.

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=1219.0

jymset

  • Infinita Navitas
  • Freelance Writer
  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1356
  • the one and only
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #1 on: 08 December 2011, 18:40:26 »
Victor C - change illustration from 3050U to 3039 version
Atlas AS7-S2 - change era from Clan Invasion to Civil War --> correction February 9, 2014; the MUL states 3061
Atlas AS7-S3 - change era from Clan Invasion to Civil War
Atlas C - change illustration from 3050U to 3039 version
« Last Edit: 09 February 2014, 06:18:57 by jymset »
On CGL writing: Caught between a writer's block and a Herb place. (cray)

Nicest writing compliment ever: I know [redacted] doesn't like continuity porn, but I do, and you sir, write some great continuity porn! (MadCapellan)

3055 rocks! Did so when I was a n00b, does so now.

Hussar2

  • Sergeant
  • *
  • Posts: 165
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #2 on: 17 December 2011, 12:30:54 »
Ripper infantry Transport Pages 163-168:
It seems that in all of these sheets in describing the infantry bay, the word "ton" was replaced with the word "platoon".
All the Rippers except the (Infantry) should have 1 ton bay and not 1 platoon while the (Infantry) should have a 4 ton not a 4 platoon Bay.

BTW it seems the Fury (original) page 210 seems to be a ton under weight while the original in TRO:2750 was 0.5 ton underweight because it had an extra
0.5 ton of armor.

Neufeld

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 2539
  • Raven, Lyran, Horse, Capellan, Canopian, Bear
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #3 on: 23 December 2011, 14:27:41 »
Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged, Clan & Star League:

Dasher A and B, pages 7 and 8:

The A and B configs shown are identical, checking with the TRO shows that it is the B that is incorrect.

Suggested solution:
Replace the incorrect Dasher B with the right config.

"Real men and women do not need Terra"
-- Grendel Roberts
"
We will be used to subdue the Capellan Confederation. We will be used to bring the Free Worlds League to heel. We will be used to
hunt bandits and support corrupt rulers and to reinforce the evils of the Inner Sphere that drove our ancestors from it so long ago."
-- Elias Crichell

Neufeld

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 2539
  • Raven, Lyran, Horse, Capellan, Canopian, Bear
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #4 on: 23 December 2011, 17:22:18 »
Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged, Clan & Star League:

Dasher C, page 9:

RS BV, MUL BV (and SSW BV) are incorrect, TRO3050U BV of 741 is correct. Error is caused by missing excessive ammo penalty.

Defensive BV:
Armor: 38 * 1.0 * 2.5 = 95
Structure: 33 * 1.0 * 0.75 * 1.5 = 37.125
Gyro: 20 * 0.5 = 10
Equipment:
- AMS: 32
- AMS ammo (2t): 22 * 2 = 44 --> More than 32 --> Reduce to 32
Equipment Total: 64

Sub-total: 206.125
Defensive Speed Factor: 1.5
Total Defensive BV: 309.1875

Offensive BV:
2x LRM, no overheat: 55 * 2 = 110
LRM ammo:7 * 2 = 14
Tonnage: 20
Sub-total: 144
Speed Factor: 3.0
Total Offensive BV: 432

Final BV: 432 + 309.1875 = 741.1875 --> Round off = 741, as in the TRO

Calculations above made by hand, with the help of a calculator and using SSW for comparison when I searched for the error. Own home-brewed program detected the error first when it did not agree with SSW.

Suggested solution:
Replace Dasher C BV by correct value 741.
« Last Edit: 24 December 2011, 05:29:49 by Neufeld »

"Real men and women do not need Terra"
-- Grendel Roberts
"
We will be used to subdue the Capellan Confederation. We will be used to bring the Free Worlds League to heel. We will be used to
hunt bandits and support corrupt rulers and to reinforce the evils of the Inner Sphere that drove our ancestors from it so long ago."
-- Elias Crichell

Neufeld

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 2539
  • Raven, Lyran, Horse, Capellan, Canopian, Bear
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #5 on: 24 December 2011, 05:29:28 »

Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged, Clan & Star League:

Koshi A, page 16:

MUL BV (and SSW BV) is incorrect, TRO3050U BV of 608 is correct. Error is caused by missing excessive ammo penalty.

Defensive BV:
Armor: 67 * 1.0 * 2.5 = 167.5
Structure: 43 * 1.0 * 0.75 * 1.5 = 48.375
Gyro: 25 * 0.5 = 12.5
Equipment:
- 2xAMS: 2 * 32 = 64
- AMS ammo (3t): 22 * 3 = 66 --> More than 64 --> Reduce to 64
- 2xA-Pod: 2 * 1 = 2
- Active Probe: 12
Equipment Total: 142

Sub-total: 370.375
Defensive Speed Factor: 1.4
Total Defensive BV: 518.525

Offensive BV:
Flamer, no overheat: 6
2x Machine Gun: 2 * 5 = 10
MG ammo (half ton): 0.5
Tonnage: 25
Sub-total: 41.5
Speed Factor: 2.16
Total Offensive BV: 89.64

Final BV: 518.525 + 89.64 = 608.165 --> Round off = 608, as in the TRO

Calculations above made by hand, with the help of a calculator and using SSW for comparison when I searched for the error. Own home-brewed program detected the error first when it did not agree with SSW.

Suggested solution:
Replace Koshi A BV by correct value 608.


"Real men and women do not need Terra"
-- Grendel Roberts
"
We will be used to subdue the Capellan Confederation. We will be used to bring the Free Worlds League to heel. We will be used to
hunt bandits and support corrupt rulers and to reinforce the evils of the Inner Sphere that drove our ancestors from it so long ago."
-- Elias Crichell

WhoInvitedHim

  • Recruit
  • *
  • Posts: 16
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #6 on: 03 January 2012, 14:01:55 »
Record Sheets 3050 Upgrade Unabridged, Clan and Star League:

pg 362, AHB-643


TRO 3050U states that the AHB-643 mounts a Heavy PPC and two medium lasers in the nose in addition to the MRM-40s and RL10s in the wings (pg 246) and the current version of MegaMek has a legal AHB-643 design with the expected loadout (I'm unsure which, if any, published record sheet this unit file was based on). However, the AHB-643 in RS3050Uu is missing these weapons.
« Last Edit: 10 January 2012, 00:12:30 by WhoInvitedHim »

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire

  • Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 17471
  • Wipe your mouth!
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #7 on: 09 January 2012, 20:50:17 »
Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged Clan & Star League

Crab CRB-45

Problem: Era is listed as "Crab"

Suggestion: Change Era to Jihad
Warning: this post may contain sarcasm.

"I think I've just had another near-Rincewind experience," Death, The Color of Magic

Moonsword

  • Global Moderator
  • Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 14748
  • You interrupted me reading TROs for this?
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #8 on: 29 February 2012, 18:42:57 »
Demon Tank (PPC)
First Version, page 199

This variant is a half-ton underweight by my math, included below.  The older sheet in Record Sheets 3050 Upgrade on page 21 indicated that the design has CASE, which this sheet does not.

Solutions:
Although CASE is redundant (no ammunition, no Gauss weaponry, etc.), it would be consistent with the older sheet.  Alternatively, expand the cargo capacity to one ton (which has less impact on the board game than increasing the armor).

Math:

 6.0 tons (Structure)
10.0 tons (220 SFE)
 5.0 tons (engine shielding)
 3.0 tons (controls)
---------
24.0 tons after Step 2

10.0 tons (10 additional heat sinks)
 9.5 tons (armor)
 1.5 tons (turret)
---------
45.0 tons before adding weapons and other equipment

14.0 tons (2xPPC)
 0.5 tons (cargo space)
---------
59.5 tons final tonnage

Kit deSummersville

  • Precentor of Lies
  • Freelance Writer
  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 9434
  • The epicness continues!
    • Insights and Complaints on Twitter
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #9 on: 02 March 2012, 18:44:11 »
Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged Inner Sphere

p. 181, Caesar 4R

Problem: The CASE is in the left torso.
Solution: The CASE should be moved to the right torso and the Ferro-Fibrous from the right torso to the left torso.
Looking for an official answer? Check the Catalyst Interaction Forums.

Freelancer for hire, not an official CGL or IMR representative.

Everyone else's job is easy, so tell them how to do it, everyone loves that!

Millard Fillmore's favorite BattleTech writer.

Fanam

  • Recruit
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #10 on: 25 March 2012, 22:42:29 »
Pages: 121 - 129
all Variants of the Man O' War have 1 Ferro-Fibrous armor critical in each leg. These should be 1 in each arm, as per the TRO.

Man O' War C (page 124) will then be able to have the a-pod crit returned to the right leg (giving 2) and the small laser removed, as per the TRO. BV2 will need to be recalculated for the Record Sheet as well as the Master Unit List (RS 2437, TRO 2417).

Man O' War E (page 126) will need to have the Double Heat Sinks returned to the legs from the left and right torsos. The Streak 6 ammo also needs to be relocated to the left torso and the right hand removed.


edited to add info on E variant.
« Last Edit: 25 March 2012, 23:15:54 by Fanam »

Xotl

  • Deus Errata et regulas Exsecutor
  • Moderator
  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 9152
  • Professor of Errata
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #11 on: 02 May 2013, 02:34:53 »
TRN-3T and TRN-3U both list a speed of 8 / 12 when they should be 12 / 18.  Structural Integrity should also be changed.

Page 256, KTO-19 Kintaro:  LRM-5 ammo in LT identified as "Artemis"; it should say "Narc"
Page 302, CRK-5003-3 Crockett:  Has 255 armour allocated, but has tons for 256.
« Last Edit: 02 March 2015, 21:12:05 by Xotl »
3028-3050 Random Assignment Tables -
Also contains faction deployment & rarity info and Quirk lists.

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=1219.0

Alexander Knight

  • Peditum Generalis
  • Battletech Volunteer
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 4591
  • O-R-E-O
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #12 on: 06 May 2013, 21:14:41 »
DRG-9KC Grand Dragon shows 21 armor on the left leg, both in the total and in the armor bubbles.  Should be 22.

Suralin

  • Lieutenant
  • *
  • Posts: 1066
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #13 on: 08 October 2013, 19:31:06 »
Record Sheets 3050 Upgrade, Clans & Star League (PDF)

p.328
Rogue RGU-133E has speed incorrectly listed at 5/8, when it should be 7/11 as per the TRO.

Yu Kigono

  • Private
  • *
  • Posts: 38
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #14 on: 08 September 2014, 16:23:52 »
Record Sheets 3050 Upgrade, Clans & Star League (PDF)

p.340
Hellcat II HCT-212 has an additional medium laser instead of the additional heatsink specified by the TRO.

cavingjan

  • Sang-Wei MUL
  • Battletech Volunteer
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 4380
  • grumpy ESOB
    • warrenborn
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #15 on: 08 September 2014, 16:58:25 »
Record Sheets 3050 Upgrade, Clans & Star League (PDF)

p.340
Hellcat II HCT-212 has an additional medium laser instead of the additional heatsink specified by the TRO.

That may be errata for the TRO. The older recordsheet (AeroTech 2 from 2007) also has the second medium laser. I will note that it also has the extra heat sink too.

Inconclusive.

mikewoo

  • Recruit
  • *
  • Posts: 13
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #16 on: 16 January 2015, 07:12:11 »
Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged Inner Sphere
Centurion CN9-D9, p.122

The Weapons & Equipment Inventory table shows damage for the Plasma Rifle as "10 [ S ]"

I can't find alternate ammo types for the Plasma Rifle in either Tech Manual or Tactical Operations, nor the errata documents for either book, so Switchable Ammo on this sheet is likely an error. Further, Tech Manual p.235 describes the Plasma Rifle as a heat-inducing anti-infantry weapon, but this sheet is not marked as such.

Suggested fix: change Plasma Rifle's DMG from "10 [ S ]" to "10 [H, AI]"

Xotl

  • Deus Errata et regulas Exsecutor
  • Moderator
  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 9152
  • Professor of Errata
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #17 on: 08 April 2015, 16:04:00 »
Clan & Star League

As per this errata here, for the Thor artillery vehicle variant with C3i, remove its turret and re-allocate the 28 pts of armour found there evenly to each facing (7 per facing).
3028-3050 Random Assignment Tables -
Also contains faction deployment & rarity info and Quirk lists.

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=1219.0

Pa Weasley

  • Freelance Writer
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 5513
  • Spotted near Lake Springfield.
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #18 on: 17 September 2015, 22:47:03 »
p. 276 Clan and Star League

EXT-4C Exterminator BV adjusted to 1,420 due to errata regarding heat calculations for Null SS, Void SS, and Chameleon LPS.

mutantsix

  • Private
  • *
  • Posts: 49
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #19 on: 29 December 2016, 20:52:08 »
Record Sheets 3050 Upgrade, Clans & Star League (PDF)

p.340
Hellcat II HCT-212 has an additional medium laser yet the TRO states it has an extra heatsink and half ton of amor to replace the beagle active probe. The remaining medium laser is also suppose to be firing aft.

Which is correct the TRO or the record sheet?

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire

  • Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 17471
  • Wipe your mouth!
Re: Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged
« Reply #20 on: 25 March 2020, 22:40:47 »
Record Sheet 3050 Upgrade, Clans & Star League

Page 134
Masakari D (Warhawk)

Critical hit location table for Right Arm shows a Lower Arm Actuator in slot 3.  Due to having an Ultra Autocannon in the Right Arm, the mech may not mount a Lower Arm Actuator in the same location.

Suggested Fix: Remove Lower Arm Actuator from Critical Hit Table.
Warning: this post may contain sarcasm.

"I think I've just had another near-Rincewind experience," Death, The Color of Magic

 

Register