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Zaskar24

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Thoughts on hover support unit.
« on: 26 November 2017, 15:01:07 »
Hello everyone, been awhile since I have been active on the boards. Was looking for some input for a post 3145 mercenary unit I am putting together. It is going to be a reinforced combined arms battalion and I am currently debating about what to do with the conventional forces. It is going to be a mixed tech unit and will have some older clan designs in it as well.

For the support unit I am debating between a company of hovers as well as a company of infantry/BA with organic hover transport or a reinforced company with 3 platoons each of 5 hovercraft and a platoon of infantry or BA attached. Way out there idea is 6 hovers, two are IFVs, with an attached platoon of infantry and platoon of BA. If this last one it would only be two reinforced platoons in the squadron.

Any thoughts or different ideas on this would be appreciated.

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #1 on: 27 November 2017, 11:17:32 »
 For older units, Saracen, Harasser  (LRM), LTV-4 Hover tank . For higher tech, Saracen mkII, Drillson,  Fulcrum,  and a FWL hover tank with a LRM15 that I can't remember the name for.
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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #2 on: 27 November 2017, 12:59:53 »
Throw in pair of Saladins too. Fast hovers with BIG ACs.  Just choose the AC/20, uAC/20, or LB20X.
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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #3 on: 27 November 2017, 20:31:21 »
Thank you for the suggestions on the hovers. Already have some sprinkled in for the unit with some upgrades including a little clan tech. One of the platoons will have an Epona in it as well as a full custom 50 tonner.

What are people thoughts on my organizational ideas? Do the 5 vehicles and one dismount platoon of infantry or BA ala Com Guards/WoB? Or go with a separate armored company and infantry company? Either way will be about the same amount of vehicles (15 as it stands).

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #4 on: 27 November 2017, 20:54:52 »
I recommend my Glenmora Planetary Militia thread for a full treatment of my thoughts on this...

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #5 on: 28 November 2017, 08:58:39 »
Throw in pair of Saladins too. Fast hovers with BIG ACs.  Just choose the AC/20, uAC/20, or LB20X.

LB 20X for me. Even with standard solid shots the range is improved over the AC/20.

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #6 on: 28 November 2017, 12:15:05 »
and a FWL hover tank with a LRM15 that I can't remember the name for.
I think your thinking of the 40 Ton Stygian, which is a great little tank
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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #7 on: 28 November 2017, 18:03:13 »
Can't go wrong with a Pegasus. Load some up with std rounds and inferno. Or grab the one that drops sensors.

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #8 on: 28 November 2017, 20:38:18 »
I recommend my Glenmora Planetary Militia thread for a full treatment of my thoughts on this...

That is exactly what I was looking for Daryk. Thank you for the link to it. Since this is a mercenary unit the hovers will be a mismatch of units that they have added as they could afford/needed replacements. For this unit I am going to go with a reinforced company of 4 platoons each with 4 hovers, including 1 IFV, with two platoons with conventional infantry and two reinforced BA platoons of 6 in a pair of modified Blizzards.

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #9 on: 28 November 2017, 21:38:12 »
I think your thinking of the 40 Ton Stygian, which is a great little tank
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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #10 on: 29 November 2017, 00:30:14 »
That is exactly what I was looking for Daryk. Thank you for the link to it. Since this is a mercenary unit the hovers will be a mismatch of units that they have added as they could afford/needed replacements. For this unit I am going to go with a reinforced company of 4 platoons each with 4 hovers, including 1 IFV, with two platoons with conventional infantry and two reinforced BA platoons of 6 in a pair of modified Blizzards.
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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #11 on: 29 November 2017, 12:54:21 »
In one of my previous Merc campaigns, I ran a lance with motley collection of hovertanks: Saracen, Scimitar, Pegasus, and J. Edgar.  The Saracen delivered long-range fire, the Scimitar offered direct aimed fire against immobilized targets, and the Pegasus and J. Edgar were the primary workhorses for "parking" enemy vehicles in a few rapid runs through the danger zone.  The J. Edgar was eventually replaced with a Drillson when one became available as salvage.   A Heavy Hover APC (LRM), an integral part of the infantry company but frequently attached to the hover lance, provided infantry support when needed for the mission.

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #12 on: 24 December 2017, 01:22:22 »
In one of my previous Merc campaigns, I ran a lance with motley collection of hovertanks: Saracen, Scimitar, Pegasus, and J. Edgar.  The Saracen delivered long-range fire, the Scimitar offered direct aimed fire against immobilized targets, and the Pegasus and J. Edgar were the primary workhorses for "parking" enemy vehicles in a few rapid runs through the danger zone.  The J. Edgar was eventually replaced with a Drillson when one became available as salvage.   A Heavy Hover APC (LRM), an integral part of the infantry company but frequently attached to the hover lance, provided infantry support when needed for the mission.

Those are all great choices.  The Drillson is a good and well-balanced machine.  The Regulator is a nice mobile gauss platform.  I have heard good things about the Fulcrum.

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #13 on: 29 December 2017, 09:13:30 »
You might want to look at the SM1 Tank Destroyer which was wide spread by the Dark Ages, it gets the Saladin feel with a bit better tech.

When you say its been a while, it makes me wonder if you played with BMR rules last or TW.  The reason I say this is that hovers used to be the go to option for combat vehicles . . . that has changed with TW- you would be better off with tracked designs unless you were looking explicitly for cavalry.
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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #14 on: 29 December 2017, 12:19:39 »
Hovers are no longer the invincible munch machines that they were at one point, but they still provide a highly mobile element that tracked vehicles can't keep up with.  If you're looking for a "stand and deliver" battle, then the hovers are the wrong choice, but if you're going for objectives, strategic maneuver, and hit and fade tactics, then they're the ideal tool for the task.

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Re: Thoughts on hover support unit.
« Reply #15 on: 29 December 2017, 14:08:39 »
Thank you for the reply Colt. When I saw that the SM1 TD was listed for mercenaries on the MUL I added it to the list of minis to get for this unit. I remember when hovers were beasts and that is where my love for them began. I made sure that I was familiar with the changes to some degree of what has changed since I was last around. With that in mind the idea for the hovers has been as a traditional cavalry unit. Help to find the enemy and keep track of them as well as providing a screening force for the Mechs flanks. I do not intend for them to stand and deliver, they will hit and fade and will not get bogged down in a slogging match unless things are very desperate.