Author Topic: One Chassis Challenge.  (Read 1266 times)

Cannonshop

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One Chassis Challenge.
« on: 09 January 2018, 12:04:08 »
Situation: You're a small polity on the off-side of the bigger players.  YOu've got a single factory for ground vehicles, limited trade, and half of a Helm Core-the half that included the Star League's engine and armor designs, but not the half that included the actual WEAPON designs.

You've got one ground vehicle factory, it's capable of  producing only one type of vehicle (VTOL, Tracked, Hover, Wheeled, your option).

You need to produce, using the same chassis weight and type, three vehicles to equip your military:

1. an armored personnel carrier capable of transporting up to a full squad of Battle-armor (you have a supplier for the armor)
2. an artillery vehicle capable of mounting an effective battlefield artillery support/indirect fire system.
3. a main battle tank capable of supplementing  your astonishingly weak Battlemech forces.

Requirements: all three vehicles must share the following:

1. Movement type (Hover, wheeled, or Tracked, they all  have to have the same thing)
2. Engine. must be the same rating, and type.
3. Mass. They all have to weigh the same. (this means they all have to move the same speed.)


May not have: Solaris VII tech, Jihad era WoB or Advanced tech, Clan Tech.  (aka must be inner sphere).  This applies only to WEAPONS. other systems (active probes, C3, C3variants, ECM systems, etc. etc.) are just fine.

Bonus points: The fewer imports or non-common components you use, the better your bosses like it-they want as 'clean and short' a supply chain as possible.

Plus 1 for shared armor materials (0 if you only use a certain armor type on one vehicle, plus one for two vehicles, plus two for three)
Plus 1 for shared secondary weapons systems
Plus 2 for each additional role of vehicle produced (that means command posty vees in addition to the required three add one, as long as the other requirements (Weight, chassis, motive system) are filled, likewise for 'engineering' vees and transporter/logistics vehicles that also share the same base chassis/engine, etc.).



I beats the Urbie to death with my CHARGER!!!

Maingunnery

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2018, 14:00:17 »

What about a shameless all-in-one?

Shameless MBT

Mass: 70 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/E-F-F-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 10.923.633 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1.107

Power Plant:  280 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 43,2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  ER Large Laser
    1  Thumper
    1  TAG
    1  Infantry Compartment (4.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      35 points                7,00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             280                      12,00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             12                        2,00
Control Equipment:                                                         3,50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0,00
Turret:                                                                    2,50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 285                 16,00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     70       
                                          Left/Right   56/56       
                                              Turret     58       
                                                Rear     45       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thumper                                      T         6         1        15,00
TAG                                          T         0         1         1,00
ER Large Laser                               T         12        1         5,00
Infantry Compartment (4.0 tons)              BD        0         1         4,00
@Thumper (Cprhead) (20)                      BD        -         0         1,00
@Thumper (Cluster) (20)                      BD        -         0         1,00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 11
4t         3       1       1       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: ARTT, TAG, TUR(3/1/1)

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One Chassis Challenge (FV 6100 SERIES)
« Reply #2 on: 09 January 2018, 16:45:15 »
I present the FV6100 Series of Combat and Support Vehicles with a total of 12 variants. All have the same engine and armor layout in common and all are equipped with a small Laser and machinegun. The FV6111 has a larger ngine as it is the heavy scout model.

Here are the first five variants

FV6100 Brahma APC (8 ton Infantry Bay for BA)

Code: [Select]
FV6100 Brahma APC

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 1,885,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 700

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/5
    1  SRM-4
    2  Small Lasers
    1  Machine Gun
    1  Infantry Compartment (8.0 tons)
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
SRM-4                                        T         3         1         2.00
Small Laser                                  T         1         1         0.50
Infantry Compartment (8.0 tons)              BD        0         1         8.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/5 (20)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/5 (AP) (10)                              BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-4 (25)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 7
4w         2       2       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, TUR(2/2/1)

FV6101 Black Bear (MBT)
Code: [Select]
FV6101 Black Bear

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,400,125 C-Bills
Battle Value: 968

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/20
    2  Medium Lasers
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Autocannon/20                                T         7         1        14.00
2 Medium Lasers                              T         6         2         2.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/20 (15)                                  BD        -         0         3.00
@AC/20 (AP) (4)                              BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 10
4w         4       3       0       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, TUR(3/3/0, AC 2/2/0), AC 2/2/0

FV6102 Boxer (LRM Fire Support)
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FV6102 Boxer

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,292,875 C-Bills
Battle Value: 918

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    3  LRM-10s
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
3 LRM-10s                                    T         12        3        15.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@LRM-10 (72)                                 BD        -         0         6.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 9
4w         2       2       2       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, TUR(1/2/2, LRM 1/2/2, IF 1/2/2), LRM 1/2/2, IF 2

FV6103 Bulldog (Artillery Fire Support)
Code: [Select]
FV6103 Bulldog

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,253,875 C-Bills
Battle Value: 675

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  SRM-6
    1  Thumper
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Thumper                                      T         6         1        15.00
SRM-6                                        T         4         1         3.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@Thumper (40)                                BD        -         0         2.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 7
4w         3       1       0       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ARTT, CASE, TUR(3/1/0)

FV6104 Bison (Combat Engineer Vehicle, AC/5 is for clearing obstruction, LRM for Mine Clearance)
Code: [Select]
FV6104 Bison

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,328,625 C-Bills
Battle Value: 763

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  LRM-10
    1  Autocannon/5
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1  Bulldozer
    1  Lift Hoist
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bulldozer                                    FR        0         1         2.00
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Lift Hoist                                   T         0         1         3.00
Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
LRM-10                                       T         4         1         5.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/5 (AP) (20)                              BD        -         0         2.00
@LRM-10 (Mn Clear) (12)                      BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 8
4w         1       2       2       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ENG, CASE, TUR(1/2/2), IF 1


« Last Edit: 09 January 2018, 16:56:45 by Sharpnel »
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The final seven variants:

FV6105 Bowyer (ADA)
Code: [Select]
FV6105 Bowyer

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,120,625 C-Bills
Battle Value: 758

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    2  LRM-5s
    2  Autocannon/2s
    1  Small Laser
    2  Machine Guns
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
2 (R) Machine Guns                           RR        0         2         1.00
2 Autocannon/2s                              T         2         2        12.00
2 LRM-5s                                     T         4         2         4.00
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/2 (90)                                   BD        -         0         2.00
@AC/2 (Flak) (90)                            BD        -         0         2.00
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 8
4w         1       1       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: TUR(1/1/1), IF 1

FV6106 Burro (Logistics Support)
Code: [Select]
FV6105 Burro

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,897,025 C-Bills
Battle Value: 542

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1 Unknown Hitch
    1  Lift Hoist
    1  Cargo, Standard (15.0 tons)
    1  Cargo, Liquid (5.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    0.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Hitch                                        RR        -         1         0.00
Lift Hoist                                   T         0         1         3.00
Cargo, Standard (15.0 tons)                  BD        0         1        15.00
Cargo, Liquid (5.0 tons)                     BD        0         1         5.00
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 5
4w         1       0       0       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: TUR()

FV6107 Blazer (MBT)
Code: [Select]
FV6107 Blazer

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,291,575 C-Bills
Battle Value: 897

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    2  Large Lasers
    1  SRM-6
    1  Small Laser
    2  Machine Guns
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             17                        7.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
2 Large Lasers                               T         16        2        10.00
SRM-6                                        T         4         1         3.00
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 9
4w         3       3       0       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, TUR(3/3/0)

FV6108 Bobcat (SRM Fire Support)
Code: [Select]
FV6108 Bobcat

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,478,125 C-Bills
Battle Value: 963

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    5  SRM-6s
    1  Medium Laser
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
5 SRM-6s                                     T         20        5        15.00
Medium Laser                                 T         3         1         1.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-6 (75)                                  BD        -         0         5.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 10
4w         5       5       0       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, TUR(5/5/0, SRM 4/4/0), SRM 4/4/0

FV6109 Breaker (MBT/Fire Support)
Code: [Select]
FV6107 Breaker

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,493,725 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,019

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  LRM-20
    1  PPC
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             11                        1.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
PPC                                          T         10        1         7.00
LRM-20                                       T         6         1        10.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@LRM-20 (18)                                 BD        -         0         3.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 10
4w         2       3       3       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, TUR(2/3/3, LRM 1/1/1, IF 1/1/1), LRM 1/1/1, IF 1

FV6110 Bunker (Command Vehicle, Inf Comp. is for Comms Crew)
Code: [Select]
FV6110 Bunker

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 2,289,625 C-Bills
Battle Value: 793

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Large Laser
    1  LRM-10
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1 Unknown CASE
    1  Infantry Compartment (1.0 tons)
    1  Communications Equipment (1.0 tons) (10.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Large Laser                                  T         8         1         5.00
LRM-10                                       T         4         1         5.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
Infantry Compartment (1.0 tons)              BD        0         1         1.00
Communications Equipment (1.0 tons) (10.0 tons) BD        0         1        10.00
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@LRM-10 (12)                                 BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 8
4w         2       2       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, TUR(2/2/1), IF 1

FV6111 Brave
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FV6111 Brave

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 3,049,475 C-Bills
Battle Value: 940

Power Plant:  280 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 54.0 km/h
Flanking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  PPC
    1  SRM-2
    1  Small Laser
    1  Machine Gun
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
    1  Beagle Active Probe
    1  Remote Sensor Dispenser
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                280                      24.00
    Cruise MP:  5
    Flank MP:   8
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             11                        1.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     50       
                                          Left/Right   35/35       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  FR        1         1         0.50
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Guardian ECM Suite                           T         0         1         1.50
Beagle Active Probe                          T         0         1         1.50
Remote Sensor Dispenser                      T         0         1         0.50
PPC                                          T         10        1         7.00
SRM-2                                        T         2         1         1.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@SRM-2 (Inferno) (50)                        BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 9
5w         2       2       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ECM, PRB, RCN, CASE, TUR(1/2/1)
« Last Edit: 09 January 2018, 17:00:39 by Sharpnel »
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Sabelkatten

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #4 on: 09 January 2018, 18:11:31 »
It doesn't get more unified than this: The only thing that changes is the contents of the turret (yes, the PBIs get to ride on the upper floor too! :D ).

It's not supposed to actually be an omni, but I figure it gets the point across. ;)

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Dustbin Modular AFV

Mass: 45 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft OmniVehicle
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 2 036 563 C-Bills
Battle Value: 370

Power Plant:  170 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 97,2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 151,2 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    16.0 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      25 points                4,50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                170                       9,00
    Cruise MP:  9
    Flank MP:   14
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0,00
Control Equipment:                                                         2,50
Lift Equipment:                                                            4,50
Turret:                                                                    1,50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 116                  6,50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     31       
                                          Left/Right   24/24       
                                              Turret     21       
                                                Rear     16       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 4
9h         0       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, TUR()


================================================================================
Loadout Name: MBT                                            Cost: 3 271 563
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 1 069

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LB 10-X AC                                   T         2         1        11,00
3 Medium Lasers                              T         9         3         3,00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      BD        -         0         1,00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         BD        -         0         1,00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 11
9h         3       3       1       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, TUR(3/3/1), FLK 1/1/1


================================================================================
Loadout Name: ART                                            Cost: 2 481 875
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 473
Rules Level: Advanced Rules

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thumper                                      T         6         1        15,00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50
@Thumper (20)                                BD        -         0         1,00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 5
9h         2       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ARTT, CASE, TUR(2/0/0)


================================================================================
Loadout Name: LRM                                            Cost: 2 677 813
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 1 193

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 Medium Lasers                              T         9         3         3,00
5 LRM-5s                                     T         10        5        10,00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50
@LRM-5 (72)                                  BD        -         0         3,00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 12
9h         3       3       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, TUR(3/3/2, LRM 1/2/2, IF 1/2/2), LRM 1/2/2, IF 2


================================================================================
Loadout Name: PPC                                            Cost: 3 497 188
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 978

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             15                        5,00

Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER PPC                                       T         15        1         7,00
Anti-Missile System                          T         1         1         0,50
Guardian ECM Suite                           T         0         1         1,50
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0,50
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50
@Anti-Missile System (12)                    BD        -         0         1,00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0,50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 10
9h         2       1       1       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, ECM, CASE, TUR(2/1/1)


================================================================================
Loadout Name: IFV                                            Cost: 2 592 313
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 832

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             12                        2,00

Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER Large Laser                               T         12        1         5,00
LRM-5                                        T         2         1         2,00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50
Infantry Compartment (6.0 tons)              BD        0         1         6,00
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1,00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 8
9h         1       2       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, TUR(1/2/2)


================================================================================
Loadout Name: Supply                                         Cost: 2 666 531
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 623
Rules Level: Advanced Rules

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lift Hoist                                   T         0         1         3,00
2 Medium Lasers                              T         6         2         2,00
Anti-Missile System                          T         1         1         0,50
Fluid Gun                                    T         0         1         2,00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50
Cargo, Liquid (2.5 tons)                     BD        0         1         2,50
Cargo, Standard (5.0 tons)                   BD        0         1         5,00
@Anti-Missile System (12)                    BD        -         0         1,00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 6
9h         1       1       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, CASE, TUR(1/1/0)


================================================================================
Loadout Name: HQ                                             Cost: 3 022 188
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F-A                       BV2: 764
Rules Level: Advanced Rules

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Communications Equipment (1.0 tons) (6.0 tons) T         0         1         6,00
2 Anti-Missile Systems                       T         2         2         1,00
3 Medium Lasers                              T         9         3         3,00
2 Machine Guns                               T         0         2         1,00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50
Drone Control System (2.5 tons)              BD        0         1         2,50
Infantry Compartment (1.0 tons)              BD        0         1         1,00
@Anti-Missile System (12)                    BD        -         0         1,00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0,50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 8
9h         2       2       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, CASE, TUR(2/2/0)

Daryk

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #5 on: 09 January 2018, 20:31:29 »
Well, I did a pretty good run of Goblins and variants here and here...

But hopefully you've seen those already.

So... any bonus points for simply licensing Johnston Industries existing designs and adding two custom variants? :)

Cannonshop

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #6 on: 09 January 2018, 22:38:00 »
What about a shameless all-in-one?

Shameless MBT

Mass: 70 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/E-F-F-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 10.923.633 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1.107

Power Plant:  280 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 43,2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  ER Large Laser
    1  Thumper
    1  TAG
    1  Infantry Compartment (4.0 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      35 points                7,00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             280                      12,00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             12                        2,00
Control Equipment:                                                         3,50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0,00
Turret:                                                                    2,50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 285                 16,00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     70       
                                          Left/Right   56/56       
                                              Turret     58       
                                                Rear     45       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Thumper                                      T         6         1        15,00
TAG                                          T         0         1         1,00
ER Large Laser                               T         12        1         5,00
Infantry Compartment (4.0 tons)              BD        0         1         4,00
@Thumper (Cprhead) (20)                      BD        -         0         1,00
@Thumper (Cluster) (20)                      BD        -         0         1,00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 11
4t         3       1       1       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: ARTT, TAG, TUR(3/1/1)


Well, I did a pretty good run of Goblins and variants here and here...

But hopefully you've seen those already.

So... any bonus points for simply licensing Johnston Industries existing designs and adding two custom variants? :)

I kind of want people to 'stretch' their thinking a little bit-be a bit creative, think about how you're going to be using these 'in game' (or in setting), basically making your 'whole list' for vehicle support on a single base chassis with a shared movement curve and different roles, you know, as if you were really equipping an army, not just answering a forum challenge.  Would you actually try to equip a force with only one vehicle to fill all roles? all with the same weapons even if those weapons might not fit the mission profile?

would you really (and be honest) want to deploy infantry in a skylined position that makes them an easier target?  it's stuff to consider.  I mean, maybe you DO.  certainly anti-mech or skeet (Jump capable) infantry would benefit, but what about combat engineering troops? 

'challenges' are supposed to stretch your creativity (otherwise, what's the point? there are HUGE lists of Fanpro/Catalyst generated designs out there...)


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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #7 on: 09 January 2018, 22:54:08 »
Well, my Glenmora Planetary Militia thread was basically that... shooting for maximum commonality to reduce maintenance costs.  Ultimately, it ended up including some hover and VTOL assets, but the preponderance of the force is really Goblins of various flavors.  I even commissioned Matt Plog to draw a few...

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #8 on: 11 January 2018, 02:29:59 »
Hope fuel cell engines work. They give the tanks some zip.

M-6 Medium Tank (standard)
Code: [Select]
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 700
Cost: 1,495,250 C-bills

Movement: 5/8 (Tracked)
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell

Internal: 10
Armor: 136
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       2       37
Right                       2       24
Left                        2       24
Rear                        2       21
Turret                      2       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Large Laser                     TU     8
Machine Gun                     TU     0
Machine Gun                     TU     0
SRM 4                           TU     3

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100
SRM 4 Ammo                      BD    25
SRM 4 Ammo                      BD    25


M-6 Medium Tank (Infantry Fighting Vehicle)
Code: [Select]
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 632
Cost: 1,324,250 C-bills

Movement: 5/8 (Tracked)
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell

Internal: 10
Armor: 136
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       2       37
Right                       2       24
Left                        2       24
Rear                        2       21
Turret                      2       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Large Laser                     TU     8
Machine Gun                     TU     0
Machine Gun                     TU     0

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100


Troops - 4.0 tons


M-6 Medium Tank (Artillery)
Code: [Select]
IS advanced
50 tons 
BV: 466
Cost: 1,418,000 C-bills

Movement: 5/8 (Tracked)
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell

Internal: 10
Armor: 112
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       2       32
Right                       2       20
Left                        2       20
Rear                        2       20
Turret                      2       20

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Machine Gun                     TU     0
Machine Gun                     TU     0
Thumper                         TU     5

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100
Thumper Ammo                    BD    20
Thumper Ammo                    BD    20


M-6 Medium Tank (Command Vehicle)
Code: [Select]
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 611
Cost: 1,395,500 C-bills

Movement: 5/8 (Tracked)
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell

Internal: 25
Armor: 136
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       5       37
Right                       5       24
Left                        5       24
Rear                        5       21
Turret                      5       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Machine Gun                     TU     0
Machine Gun                     TU     0
SRM 4                           TU     3
SRM 4                           TU     3

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100
SRM 4 Ammo                      BD    25
SRM 4 Ammo                      BD    25

Equipment                      Loc
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Communications Equipment (7 ton)  BD

Troops - 4.0 tons


M-6 Medium Tank (Bridgelayer)
Code: [Select]
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 551
Cost: 1,565,000 C-bills

Movement: 5/8 (Tracked)
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell

Internal: 25
Armor: 136
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       5       37
Right                       5       24
Left                        5       24
Rear                        5       21
Turret                      5       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Machine Gun                     TU     0
Machine Gun                     TU     0
SRM 4                           TU     3

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100
SRM 4 Ammo                      BD    25

Equipment                      Loc
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Bridge Layer (Heavy)            FR
Bridge Layer (Heavy)            FR

Troops - 2.0 tons


M-6 Medium Tank (Engineering Vehicle)
Code: [Select]
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 580
Cost: 1,482,500 C-bills

Movement: 5/8 (Tracked)
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell

Internal: 25
Armor: 136
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       5       37
Right                       5       24
Left                        5       24
Rear                        5       21
Turret                      5       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Machine Gun                     TU     0
SRM 4                           TU     3

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100
SRM 4 Ammo                      BD    25

Equipment                      Loc
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Backhoe                         TU
Bulldozer                       FR
Lift Hoist/Arresting Hoist      RR
Cargo (2 tons)                  BD

Troops - 2.0 tons


M-6 Medium Tank (Recovery Vehicle)
Code: [Select]
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 490
Cost: 1,284,500 C-bills

Movement: 5/8 (Tracked)
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell

Internal: 25
Armor: 136
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       5       37
Right                       5       24
Left                        5       24
Rear                        5       21
Turret                      5       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Machine Gun                     TU     0
Machine Gun                     TU     0

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
Lift Hoist/Arresting Hoist      RR
Lift Hoist/Arresting Hoist      RR
Cargo (9 tons)                  BD

Troops - 2.0 tons


M-6 Medium Tank (MASH)
Code: [Select]
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 467
Cost: 1,299,500 C-bills

Movement: 5/8 (Tracked)
Engine: 250 Fuel Cell

Internal: 25
Armor: 128
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       5       37
Right                       5       20
Left                        5       20
Rear                        5       21
Turret                      5       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Machine Gun                     TU     0
Machine Gun                     TU     0

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100

Equipment                      Loc
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MASH Core Component             BD
MASH Operation Theater          BD
MASH Operation Theater          BD
MASH Operation Theater          BD
MASH Operation Theater          BD
MASH Operation Theater          BD
MASH Operation Theater          BD
MASH Operation Theater          BD
MASH Operation Theater          BD
Communications Equipment (3 ton)  BD
Cargo (1 ton)                   BD

Troops - 2.0 tons
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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #9 on: 11 January 2018, 07:34:46 »
What's the M-6's fusion version look like?  Very good work!

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #10 on: 11 January 2018, 17:07:06 »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but "primitive" combat vehicles are all built with support vee rules, right?
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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #11 on: 15 March 2018, 18:30:32 »
I was never good in creating fluff for my designs, but here is an updated (3042) family of Vedette tanks.  The biggest change that allowed for some interesting designs was simply putting in a fusion engine.  Since I created quite a few designs (24 and counting), I will just post the zip file.  These were designed using MML.
Current Designs:
Liao6 (More med laers)
AAA
AC10
AT (AC-20)
BA-T (Battle Armor Transport)
BL-H (Heavy Bridgelayer)
Cargo (Armed cargo transport, 10t capacity)
CMD (HQ unit)
DrCar (Drone Carrier)
EWAR
FLD-KTCHN
G (Gauss, because why not?)
IFV
IFV2
LB (LB10)
LRM-H (LRM Carrier)
MASH
MBT (Standard model with some extras)
MNSW-Layer (Minesweeper/Layer Combo)
Recov
SensDisp (Remote Sensor Dispensor/Carrier)
SRM
Thumper (w/Turret)
Thumper (w/o Turret)
PS>Will add additional designs in another post.  Still have a couple to iron out.

« Last Edit: 15 March 2018, 18:58:14 by Taron Storm »

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #12 on: 16 March 2018, 14:07:31 »
I have a question before submitting my ideas, what is consider a MBT for this planet.

I mean we are a small power, outside the inner sphere.  Yep our mech forces are limited and weak.

Honestly I like Daryk Goblin force.
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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #13 on: 16 March 2018, 22:11:24 »
Thanks DOC!  I appreciate all love for the Goblin... :)

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #14 on: 17 March 2018, 04:12:57 »
I have a question before submitting my ideas, what is consider a MBT for this planet.

I mean we are a small power, outside the inner sphere.  Yep our mech forces are limited and weak.

Honestly I like Daryk Goblin force.

well...consider that the typical definition of MBT can be seen as a "Backbone" unit, capable of engaging and destroying units of similar or larger size, capable of moving fast enough to dictate range in formations, and capable both in the defense, and in the attack.

you know "MAIN" battle tank, as opposed to somehting like a Schrek, Demolisher, or most of the 3/5s out there that basically need to hold still and wait for the enemy to find them if they actually want to hit him.  Historical examples of the type range from the Sherman (don't believe the hype-most of the stories of it being a deathtrap are examples of sample bias), Panther (the german one, not the Battletech one), T-34, M-48, M-60, T-72 and M-1 Abrams.  an MBT tries to straddle a balance across two out of three axes:

Armor
Speed
Firepower.

that is, it will tend to do well in two out of three of those factors, depending on your doctrine, but it does not sink to "Poor" on speed.  (King Tiger or JS-1 are HEAVY tanks or assault tanks, not MBTs, since they're too slow to support or exploit offensive operations except at the speed of foot infantry, and they're horribly unreliable.)

in a sense, the MBT fills the "Trooper" role for 'mechs.  it should be reasonably tough, reasonably maneuverable, and pack a reasonable punch within its weight class to cover both a role on defense, as well as a role on offense.  an armored slab with a gun that rolls 2/3 is not an MBT, it's a gun emplacement, a tinfoil box with a cannon that can't take a hit isn't an MBT either, it's a reconaissance vehicle.

In BT terms, 4/6 is a good general rule of thumb for an MBT"s movement, particularly at masses higher than 50.  this enables you to climb mild grades (or descend them) while firing without losing accuracy (due to flanking).

for punch on an MBT, typically 8-15 is a good range, with a medium range hgher thn 8 hexes.  (aka IS Large laser at 3025 tech is a good baseline or 'bare minimum', though a PPC or AC/10 is a better one.  the AC/20 requires getting too close and has a short ammo box, making it great for urban defense but incredibly poor at other roles)

Ideally, the armoring on an MBT should be able to sustain two 20 point hits to the front glacis, one to two on the turret, and one each on each facing minimum. why? because an MBT expects to get shot at-a lot, while in the course of its activities.


Good (and common) examples include:

3025
Patton
Po
Manticore

3060's:
Rommel Gauss
Po (upgrade)
Manticore (3025 version)
Myrmidon

I'm leaving House DAvion's Omnitank off the list, because one of the seminal features of a true MBT, is that you can afford to field them as a 'standard' design in mass production as a line trooper, not as a prestige unit that complicates your supply chain woes unnecessarily by trying to fill too many roles simultaneously.
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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #15 on: 17 March 2018, 09:22:55 »
Thanks for you answer Cannonshop.  Then I have to say Daryk's Goblins fit the build.
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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #16 on: 27 March 2018, 22:33:44 »
Oh, man, i made way too many variants. Too much fun.

My vehicle is called "Gavin". This is because i figure it is gonna look a bit like the M113 APC, and the M113 has been claimed to be nicknamed Gavin, so i grabbed the non-existent nickname for my vehicle, sorta meta-joke if that makes sense.

First, i'll explain my rationale behind my chassis choices: 50 tons, tracked, 250-rated fuel cell engine with 5/8 movement (86 KPH top speed).
-Tracked chassis is the only practical option for vehicle that is expected to work in multitude of terrains and possess a MBT variant. Wheeled chassis would offer weight, cost, and maintenance savings, but ultimately it is not quite suitable for our purposes.
-50 tons. I noticed that others are opting for heavier vehicles, but i feel that a backwater with limited manufacturing capabilities will need something economical. Also, with 50 ton vehicle, any dropships or other transports can be configured for multiple light vehicle bays, increasing logistics efficiency somewhat.
-I expect the fuel cell is the most controversial choice here. Economy and necessity are the driving forces here. I figure that a small planet will have limited number of fusion reactors, or will need them for 'Mechs or other more specialized vehicles and purposes. A standard ICE would be cheaper and simpler, but it simply weights too much for a multipurpose vehicle. A fuel cell is certainly possible to make on a small backwater planet, even if their use in military vehicles is somewhat rare. Range will be limited but fuel shouldn't be a problem.
-5/8 movement. While 4/6 suits a MBT, for other roles a faster vehicle is more useful. Also, a major issue vehicles have in BT are mobility hits, a 5/8 vehicle will stay just a bit longer mobile than 4/6 if it doesn't get blown up.

Some notes on shared features and other stuff:
-Standard armor. Economical and common.
-CASE. The sole somewhat more advanced piece of technology used in all Gavin variants, you just can't so no to extra crew survivability.
-Standard machine guns. Never know when you're gonna need 'em.
-Vehicular grenade launcher (VGL). Rules-wise, it is advanced level, but tech-wise it is about as primitive as you can get, though uncommon in BattleTech in general, no doubt any and all planets can manufacture these. As smoke delivery systems, SRMs and LRMs have largely supplanted these, but i figure that people are inclined to load those for offensive uses, using VGLs we guarantee their defensive uses.
-All primary weapons mounted in the vehicle are "introductory" level. Ammunition may need to be more specialized for ideal results.
-The empty Gavin chassis weights 23 tons (CASE equipped, no armor), with 27 tons free.

Now, to the variants. Due to amount of text, i will include zip files for SSW/MML files for the Gavin and txt files with stats exported from SSW.
Also, i wonder if anyone will figure out my R-codes (you may need to see stats in some cases), they have a system.

Gavin R-1110 MBT.
I will admit straight that this is maybe the worst vehicle in the Gavin lineup. With the restrictions i placed for myself, there were no real options for a proper main gun for an MBT. As it is, this MBT is one reason i needed to use a fuel cell engine, they come with a free heat sink and it is put to use here.
The main gun is a standard large laser. 15 hex range and 8 damage is not impressive but it is logistically simple weapon. It does require adding 7 tons worth of heat sinks, but actually saves weight compared to AC/10: there is no need for ammo, and the turret mechanism is lighter.
Supporting the main laser is a LRM-5 with ton of ammo for extra punch, and an MG to deal with infantry. A pair of VGLs are included for extra defense (or offense, depending what you pack them with).
8.5 tons of armor isn't quite enough to Cannonshop's specifications, as the front sports only 36 points of armor (counting internal structure, the tank with fresh armor will survive two 20 point hits, just barely). But my MBT is sorta cavalry MBT, so perhaps additional mobility will keep it alive.

Gavin R-1210 Thumper
The Gavin self-propelled howitzer. A Thumper artillery gun is placed in the turret, along with one MG and one VGL. Two tons of ammo for the gun, half a ton for the MG. Armor is thinner at 6.5 tons, but this vehicle is not supposed to be in the front line anyway.

Gavin R-2301 APC
I may have bent the challenge requirements here a bit. "Up to a full squad of Battle Armor" was specified, mine can transport two actually. In BattleTech, i regard non-light vehicles with more than one BA squad/infantry platoon transport capability as APCs usually, and non-lights with capability for merely one as IFVs (provided they got guns too). I do have an IFV variant as well, see below.
This Gavin APC is extensively modified, it is fully amphibious. It does not posses a turret to save weight and simplify the vehicle. An 8-ton infantry compartment allows transporting significant amount of conventional infantry or two squads of Battle Armor. Weapons consist of a front-facing medium laser for supporting infantry against tougher targets in close range, and a pair of front-facing machine guns with half a ton of ammo. Each facing has a VGL for defense.
7 tons of armor is pretty reasonable as there's no turret to armor. Rear and sides are beefed up compared to some Gavin variants.

Gavin R-1311 IFV
I channeled M2 Bradley IFV for the Gavin IFV. A 4-ton troop compartment for a squad of BA or some infantry. Turret mounts an AC/5 for direct fire support with a ton of ammo, a pair of SRM-2s for close combat with a ton of ammo, and an MG with half a ton of ammo. The Gavin IFV has a pair of VGLs in turret, while the armor is at 7.5 tons.

That's the primary variants. Now for the secondary combat variants...

Gavin R-1100 Assault Gun
Sometimes you just need extra firepower. The Gavin Assault Gun channels some Hetzer, Stug, etc. other famous assault guns and tank destroyers. The primary gun here is naturally a front-mounted AC/20. Only two tons of ammo though, i figured this thing will attract enough attention it won't last that long, and in an ambush situation the enemy will be (ideally) destroyed before the gun runs out. A pair of machine guns is included for... ah, well, whatever, we got bulk-discount on those, half a ton of ammo too. Each facing mounts a VGL. Armor is at 7.5 tons, with no turret to think about, this is the toughest Gavin.

Gavin R-1210 MLRS
Missile support may be needed at any time. The Gavin MLRS sports two LRM-15s in the turret. Each has two tons worth of ammo, not a long endurance but shoot and scoot and go back to reload. A pair of VGLs are mounted in the turret as well. Do note this variant has no any close range weapons!
Armor is relatively thin at 6.5 tons, stay out of enemy line of sight.

Gavin R-2110 SPAAG
The Gavin self-propelled anti-aircraft gun. A pair of AC/2s is not impressive as damage goes, but with flak ammo they will be just nasty enough to discourage enemy aircraft from getting in too close. Two tons of ammo should be plenty. A LRM-5 is included for extra firepower, or for utility since it has two tons of ammo as well. A pair of VGLs are mounted in the turret.
The armor is identical to the MLRS variant.

And finally, support variants.

Gavin R-3501 MHQ
Mobile headquarters/communications vehicle, built on the same modified chassis as the Gavin APC. This variant sports 7-tons of communications equipment. A pair of front mounted MGs is the only armament, with half a ton of ammo. Each facing mounts a VGL. Finally, the MHQ Gavin has a 3-ton infantry compartment for staff or security infantry platoon.
Has 6.5 tons of armor, no turret. Like the APC variant, this is fully amphibious.
It should be noted that this variant is 2 tons underweight. Feel free to modify the vehicle as necessary.

Gavin R-3410 CEV
The Gavin combat engineering vehicle. Has everything necessary for combat engineers: Bulldozer, turreted backhoe, lift hoist, and a flamer for defoliant ops. A machine gun is included for self-defense, along with a VGL on each facing.
6.5 tons of armor, arranged equally to the MLRS and SPAAG variants.
5 tons underweight, mostly for economical reasons. (Plus i really couldn't figure what else an engineering vehicle might need.)

Gavin R-3400 AVLB
Gavin armored vehicle-launched bridge. Another engineering vehicle, sometimes you just need to bring bridges with you. For defense, each facing mounts a VGL, and the front has a machine gun with half a ton of ammo.
Has only 6 tons of armor.
12 tons underweight.

Gavin R-3600 Minelayer/Minesweeper
A special purpose combined minelayer and minesweeper vehicle. Carriers four mine dispensers (each has two 10pts minefields), a minesweeper on the front, a pair LRM-10s with two tons of ammo, for mine clearance missiles and Thunder LRMs. Has a machine gun and each facing has a VGL.
7 tons of armor.
(No SSW text file since SSW does not have mine-related equipment for whatever reason.)
(Logically, this should be split into two separate vehicles: One minesweeper, perhaps with drone control systems, and a proper minelayer. I might do that later properly.)


The Gavin was fun to design. It is very simple, cheap vehicle, but it should be usable. I figure that a small backwater planet should focus on easily available quantity that is adequate, rather than try for something suitable for elite forces. It is not flashy... but i really don't think it needs to be.
I'm not sure if my vehicles are very BattleTechy though. As you may notice, i tend to draw influence from real world military vehicles as far as equipment layout goes.

As noted, data files and txt files are in the .zip attachments. Too many to add individually, too much text to post data blocks here without spreading them to multiple posts.

EDIT Duh, i forgot a recovery vehicle. Unfortunately, i have no idea what it should have in BT.
Perhaps the combat engineering vehicle can double as one thanks to the lift hoist?

EDIT Any similarities with others submissions are coincidental.
« Last Edit: 27 March 2018, 22:43:32 by Empyrus »

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #17 on: 29 March 2018, 17:42:02 »
Oh, man, i made way too many variants. Too much fun.

My vehicle is called "Gavin". This is because i figure it is gonna look a bit like the M113 APC, and the M113 has been claimed to be nicknamed Gavin, so i grabbed the non-existent nickname for my vehicle, sorta meta-joke if that makes sense.

First, i'll explain my rationale behind my chassis choices: 50 tons, tracked, 250-rated fuel cell engine with 5/8 movement (86 KPH top speed).
-Tracked chassis is the only practical option for vehicle that is expected to work in multitude of terrains and possess a MBT variant. Wheeled chassis would offer weight, cost, and maintenance savings, but ultimately it is not quite suitable for our purposes.
-50 tons. I noticed that others are opting for heavier vehicles, but i feel that a backwater with limited manufacturing capabilities will need something economical. Also, with 50 ton vehicle, any dropships or other transports can be configured for multiple light vehicle bays, increasing logistics efficiency somewhat.
-I expect the fuel cell is the most controversial choice here. Economy and necessity are the driving forces here. I figure that a small planet will have limited number of fusion reactors, or will need them for 'Mechs or other more specialized vehicles and purposes. A standard ICE would be cheaper and simpler, but it simply weights too much for a multipurpose vehicle. A fuel cell is certainly possible to make on a small backwater planet, even if their use in military vehicles is somewhat rare. Range will be limited but fuel shouldn't be a problem.
-5/8 movement. While 4/6 suits a MBT, for other roles a faster vehicle is more useful. Also, a major issue vehicles have in BT are mobility hits, a 5/8 vehicle will stay just a bit longer mobile than 4/6 if it doesn't get blown up.

Some notes on shared features and other stuff:
-Standard armor. Economical and common.
-CASE. The sole somewhat more advanced piece of technology used in all Gavin variants, you just can't so no to extra crew survivability.
-Standard machine guns. Never know when you're gonna need 'em.
-Vehicular grenade launcher (VGL). Rules-wise, it is advanced level, but tech-wise it is about as primitive as you can get, though uncommon in BattleTech in general, no doubt any and all planets can manufacture these. As smoke delivery systems, SRMs and LRMs have largely supplanted these, but i figure that people are inclined to load those for offensive uses, using VGLs we guarantee their defensive uses.
-All primary weapons mounted in the vehicle are "introductory" level. Ammunition may need to be more specialized for ideal results.
-The empty Gavin chassis weights 23 tons (CASE equipped, no armor), with 27 tons free.

Now, to the variants. Due to amount of text, i will include zip files for SSW/MML files for the Gavin and txt files with stats exported from SSW.
Also, i wonder if anyone will figure out my R-codes (you may need to see stats in some cases), they have a system.

Gavin R-1110 MBT.
I will admit straight that this is maybe the worst vehicle in the Gavin lineup. With the restrictions i placed for myself, there were no real options for a proper main gun for an MBT. As it is, this MBT is one reason i needed to use a fuel cell engine, they come with a free heat sink and it is put to use here.
The main gun is a standard large laser. 15 hex range and 8 damage is not impressive but it is logistically simple weapon. It does require adding 7 tons worth of heat sinks, but actually saves weight compared to AC/10: there is no need for ammo, and the turret mechanism is lighter.
Supporting the main laser is a LRM-5 with ton of ammo for extra punch, and an MG to deal with infantry. A pair of VGLs are included for extra defense (or offense, depending what you pack them with).
8.5 tons of armor isn't quite enough to Cannonshop's specifications, as the front sports only 36 points of armor (counting internal structure, the tank with fresh armor will survive two 20 point hits, just barely). But my MBT is sorta cavalry MBT, so perhaps additional mobility will keep it alive.

Gavin R-1210 Thumper
The Gavin self-propelled howitzer. A Thumper artillery gun is placed in the turret, along with one MG and one VGL. Two tons of ammo for the gun, half a ton for the MG. Armor is thinner at 6.5 tons, but this vehicle is not supposed to be in the front line anyway.

Gavin R-2301 APC
I may have bent the challenge requirements here a bit. "Up to a full squad of Battle Armor" was specified, mine can transport two actually. In BattleTech, i regard non-light vehicles with more than one BA squad/infantry platoon transport capability as APCs usually, and non-lights with capability for merely one as IFVs (provided they got guns too). I do have an IFV variant as well, see below.
This Gavin APC is extensively modified, it is fully amphibious. It does not posses a turret to save weight and simplify the vehicle. An 8-ton infantry compartment allows transporting significant amount of conventional infantry or two squads of Battle Armor. Weapons consist of a front-facing medium laser for supporting infantry against tougher targets in close range, and a pair of front-facing machine guns with half a ton of ammo. Each facing has a VGL for defense.
7 tons of armor is pretty reasonable as there's no turret to armor. Rear and sides are beefed up compared to some Gavin variants.

Gavin R-1311 IFV
I channeled M2 Bradley IFV for the Gavin IFV. A 4-ton troop compartment for a squad of BA or some infantry. Turret mounts an AC/5 for direct fire support with a ton of ammo, a pair of SRM-2s for close combat with a ton of ammo, and an MG with half a ton of ammo. The Gavin IFV has a pair of VGLs in turret, while the armor is at 7.5 tons.

That's the primary variants. Now for the secondary combat variants...

Gavin R-1100 Assault Gun
Sometimes you just need extra firepower. The Gavin Assault Gun channels some Hetzer, Stug, etc. other famous assault guns and tank destroyers. The primary gun here is naturally a front-mounted AC/20. Only two tons of ammo though, i figured this thing will attract enough attention it won't last that long, and in an ambush situation the enemy will be (ideally) destroyed before the gun runs out. A pair of machine guns is included for... ah, well, whatever, we got bulk-discount on those, half a ton of ammo too. Each facing mounts a VGL. Armor is at 7.5 tons, with no turret to think about, this is the toughest Gavin.

Gavin R-1210 MLRS
Missile support may be needed at any time. The Gavin MLRS sports two LRM-15s in the turret. Each has two tons worth of ammo, not a long endurance but shoot and scoot and go back to reload. A pair of VGLs are mounted in the turret as well. Do note this variant has no any close range weapons!
Armor is relatively thin at 6.5 tons, stay out of enemy line of sight.

Gavin R-2110 SPAAG
The Gavin self-propelled anti-aircraft gun. A pair of AC/2s is not impressive as damage goes, but with flak ammo they will be just nasty enough to discourage enemy aircraft from getting in too close. Two tons of ammo should be plenty. A LRM-5 is included for extra firepower, or for utility since it has two tons of ammo as well. A pair of VGLs are mounted in the turret.
The armor is identical to the MLRS variant.

And finally, support variants.

Gavin R-3501 MHQ
Mobile headquarters/communications vehicle, built on the same modified chassis as the Gavin APC. This variant sports 7-tons of communications equipment. A pair of front mounted MGs is the only armament, with half a ton of ammo. Each facing mounts a VGL. Finally, the MHQ Gavin has a 3-ton infantry compartment for staff or security infantry platoon.
Has 6.5 tons of armor, no turret. Like the APC variant, this is fully amphibious.
It should be noted that this variant is 2 tons underweight. Feel free to modify the vehicle as necessary.

Gavin R-3410 CEV
The Gavin combat engineering vehicle. Has everything necessary for combat engineers: Bulldozer, turreted backhoe, lift hoist, and a flamer for defoliant ops. A machine gun is included for self-defense, along with a VGL on each facing.
6.5 tons of armor, arranged equally to the MLRS and SPAAG variants.
5 tons underweight, mostly for economical reasons. (Plus i really couldn't figure what else an engineering vehicle might need.)

Gavin R-3400 AVLB
Gavin armored vehicle-launched bridge. Another engineering vehicle, sometimes you just need to bring bridges with you. For defense, each facing mounts a VGL, and the front has a machine gun with half a ton of ammo.
Has only 6 tons of armor.
12 tons underweight.

Gavin R-3600 Minelayer/Minesweeper
A special purpose combined minelayer and minesweeper vehicle. Carriers four mine dispensers (each has two 10pts minefields), a minesweeper on the front, a pair LRM-10s with two tons of ammo, for mine clearance missiles and Thunder LRMs. Has a machine gun and each facing has a VGL.
7 tons of armor.
(No SSW text file since SSW does not have mine-related equipment for whatever reason.)
(Logically, this should be split into two separate vehicles: One minesweeper, perhaps with drone control systems, and a proper minelayer. I might do that later properly.)


The Gavin was fun to design. It is very simple, cheap vehicle, but it should be usable. I figure that a small backwater planet should focus on easily available quantity that is adequate, rather than try for something suitable for elite forces. It is not flashy... but i really don't think it needs to be.
I'm not sure if my vehicles are very BattleTechy though. As you may notice, i tend to draw influence from real world military vehicles as far as equipment layout goes.

As noted, data files and txt files are in the .zip attachments. Too many to add individually, too much text to post data blocks here without spreading them to multiple posts.

EDIT Duh, i forgot a recovery vehicle. Unfortunately, i have no idea what it should have in BT.
Perhaps the combat engineering vehicle can double as one thanks to the lift hoist?

EDIT Any similarities with others submissions are coincidental.

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #18 on: 29 March 2018, 19:32:00 »
Defiance licensed the Rommel and Patton to the Bulls, it'll save a lot of R&D if they'll license them to us as well.  These were designed as potential extensions of the original Lyran program in the pre-Helm era, so some newer tech that should be available in the context of this challenge that could make them better isn't used. 

The Rommel as is serves as an urban combat platform. 

The Isreal Tal replaces the Patton as an MBT. 
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Desert Knight Isreal Tal Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level
Era
Experimental
-
Advanced
3025+
Standard
-
Tech Rating: E/D-E-D-D  Weight: 65 tons BV: 1,082 Cost: 2,967,800 C-bills  Movement: 4/6 (Tracked) Engine: 260  Internal: 35 Armor: 232

Internal
Armor


Front
7
51


Right
7
46


Left
7
46


Rear
7
38


Turret
7
51


 
Weapons
Loc
Heat

Machine Gun
FR
0

PPC
TU
10

Machine Gun
TU
0

LRM 5
TU
2

SRM 6
TU
4

 
Ammo
Loc
Shots

Half Machine Gun Ammo
BD
100

LRM 5 Ammo
BD
24

LRM 5 Smoke Ammo
BD
24

SRM 6 Ammo
BD
15

SRM 6 Inferno Ammo
BD
15

SRM 6 Smoke Ammo
BD
15

The Harold Alexander is the SPG.  It's armored enough to serve as on-board artillery as long as it's part of a force with proper tanks or mechs as escorts.  In an off-board role it should probably be towing an ammo trailer I'm not going to bother to stat up. 
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Desert Knight Harold Alexander Base Tech Level: Advanced (IS)
Level
Era
Experimental
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Advanced
-
Standard
3025+
Tech Rating: E/C-E-D-D  Weight: 65 tons BV: 702 Cost: 2,837,450 C-bills Source: Bruce  Movement: 4/6 (Tracked) Engine: 260  Internal: 28 Armor: 152

Internal
Armor


Front
7
40


Right
7
40


Left
7
40


Rear
7
32


 
Weapons
Loc
Heat

Medium Laser
FR
3

Sniper
FR
10

Medium Laser
RR
3

 
Ammo
Loc
Shots

Sniper Ammo
BD
10

Sniper Ammo
BD
10

Sniper Ammo
BD
10

The troop transport is the Templar, capable of moving a 4 man squad of heavy battle armor or two squads of medium. 
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Desert Knight Templar Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level
Era
Experimental
-
Advanced
3025+
Standard
-
Tech Rating: E/D-E-D-D  Weight: 65 tons BV: 973 Cost: 2,629,550 C-bills  Movement: 4/6 (Tracked) Engine: 260  Internal: 35 Armor: 232

Internal
Armor


Front
7
51


Right
7
46


Left
7
46


Rear
7
38


Turret
7
51


 
Weapons
Loc
Heat

Medium Laser
FR
3

Large Laser
TU
8

LRM 5
TU
2

 
Ammo
Loc
Shots

LRM 5 Ammo
BD
24

LRM 5 Smoke Ammo
BD
24

  Carrying Capacity Troops - 8.0 tons

The Baldwin is similar to the Templar, but uses most of that space for satellite comms.
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Desert Knight Baldwin Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level
Era
Experimental
-
Advanced
-
Standard
3025+
Tech Rating: E/C-E-D-D  Weight: 65 tons BV: 966 Cost: 2,604,800 C-bills  Movement: 4/6 (Tracked) Engine: 260  Internal: 35 Armor: 232

Internal
Armor


Front
7
51


Right
7
46


Left
7
46


Rear
7
38


Turret
7
51


 
Weapons
Loc
Heat

Medium Laser
FR
3

Large Laser
TU
8

LRM 5
TU
2

 
Ammo
Loc
Shots

LRM 5 Ammo
BD
24

 
Equipment
Loc

Communications Equipment (7 ton)
BD

 Carrying Capacity Troops - 2.0 tons

And the Hospitaler is there because pirates and Dracs don't always respect the sanctity of the red cross.
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Desert Knight Hospitaler Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level
Era
Experimental
-
Advanced
3025+
Standard
-
Tech Rating: E/C-E-D-D  Weight: 65 tons BV: 966 Cost: 2,695,550 C-bills  Movement: 4/6 (Tracked) Engine: 260  Internal: 35 Armor: 232

Internal
Armor


Front
7
51


Right
7
46


Left
7
46


Rear
7
38


Turret
7
51


 
Weapons
Loc
Heat

Medium Laser
FR
3

Large Laser
TU
8

LRM 5
TU
2

 
Ammo
Loc
Shots

LRM 5 Ammo
BD
24

 
Equipment
Loc

Cargo (1.5 tons)
BD

MASH Core Component
BD

MASH Operation Theater
BD

MASH Operation Theater
BD

 Carrying Capacity Troops - 2.0 tons

Abrar Hussein is for mixing in to improve long range firepower while being more flexible than the Harold Alexander. 
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Desert Knight Abrar Hussein Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level
Era
Experimental
-
Advanced
3025+
Standard
-
Tech Rating: E/D-E-D-D  Weight: 65 tons BV: 1,147 Cost: 2,995,438 C-bills  Movement: 4/6 (Tracked) Engine: 260  Internal: 35 Armor: 232

Internal
Armor


Front
7
51


Right
7
46


Left
7
46


Rear
7
38


Turret
7
51


 
Weapons
Loc
Heat

Small Laser
FR
1

Large Laser
TU
8

LRM 20
TU
6

 
Ammo
Loc
Shots

LRM 20 Ammo
BD
6

LRM 20 Ammo
BD
6

LRM 20 Smoke Ammo
BD
6

And then there's the Kusrau for when enemy brings ASF. 

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #19 on: 30 March 2018, 13:25:26 »
Strong he is with the Troll side of the force.

We'll just pretend Kusrau is missing because he's being a troll and not because of user error. 

Let's try this again.  Kusrau, less specialized than a Partisan because, hey, I have 10 heatsinks. 
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Desert Knight Kusrau Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level
Era
Experimental
-
Advanced
3025-3069
Standard
3070+
Tech Rating: E/E-F-F-E  Weight: 65 tons BV: 844 Cost: 2,797,850 C-bills Source: Bruce  Movement: 4/6 (Tracked) Engine: 260  Internal: 35 Armor: 168

Internal
Armor


Front
7
38


Right
7
38


Left
7
38


Rear
7
24


Turret
7
30


 
Weapons
Loc
Heat

AC/2
TU
1

AC/2
TU
1

PPC
TU
10

 
Ammo
Loc
Shots

Flak AC/2 Ammo
BD
45

Flak AC/2 Ammo
BD
45

AC/2 Ammo
BD
45

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #20 on: 31 March 2018, 01:09:19 »
lol

I actually designed the vehicle first (working name was just "chassis"). Then i started wondering how a shared chassis looks... and then i remembered there are a gazillion M113 variants, so i checked the Wikipedia article, and the nickname thing caught my eye.
The thing really seems to be the most modified military vehicle ever.

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #21 on: 01 April 2018, 16:37:52 »
While I don't have a new shiny design, I do have an older more ancient unit I have upgraded.

The Jeep! http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jeep

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5 ton Jeep
IS: 5 per arc,   .5
E:  7/11 ICE,  1.0
A: Stnd Plate, 1.5
  24- 6 per Arc
Cargo: Misc.,  2.0

Mod: Alpha - 2 MGs, 1 Ammo ( 200 )
Mod: Beta - SRM-2, 1 Ammo ( 25 )
Mod: Pi ( Truetanker ) - 1 MG ( .5 ), .5 Ammo ( 100 ), 1 ton Cargobay ( 10-Infantry, rear )
Mod: Militia - 4 Rocket Launcher-10 ( 2 ton, front )
Mod: Bulldozer- Bulldozer blade, front... duh!
Mod: Firefighter / Refueler - 1 Sprayer / Light fluid Suction Pump ( .5, front ), Searchlight w/ Pintle mount( .5, front ), 1 ton Liquid Insulated / Refrigerated ( .87 tons, about 10 shots, rear )
Mod: Ladder Truck - 2 Ladders ( .5 tons each, front, 100 Meters / 3 hexes or so ), 2 Searchlight w/ Pintle mount ( .5, side )
Mod: Ambulance - 2 ParaMedic Equipment ( .5 ),  1 ton Cargobay ( 10-Infantry, patients, rear )
Mod: Sensor - 1 Remote Sensor Dispenser, Rear, 1 Ammo ( 60 Sensors ), General Cargo ( .5 )
Mod: Comms - Comm Gear ( 1 ton, rear ), TAG ( 1 ton, front )
Mod: Bridgelayer - Bridgelayer, Medium, body
Mod: Firefly - 2 Vehicle Flamer, ( 1 ton, front ), 1 Ammo ( 20 )
Mod: Cargo - General Cargobay 2 ton, body

Clan Mod:
Same as above but with a Fusion Engine ( .75 tons ), generally the .25 is extra General Cargo each variant, unless noted below.

Mod: Alpha - 5 LMGs, front, .5 Ammo ( 100 ), .5 General Cargo
Mod: Beta - SRM-4, 1 Ammo, .25 Cargo
Mod: PI ( Truetanker ) - 2 LMGs, front, .5 Ammo ( 100 ), 1 ton Cargobay ( 10-Infantry, rear ), .25 Cargo
Mod: Support - LRM-5, front, 1 Ammo ( 24 ), .25 Cargo
Mod: Solahma - Like Pi, SRM-2 ( .5, front ), Ammo ( 50 ), 1 LMG ( .25, front ), .5 ammo ( .100 )
Mod: Command - Light Probe, Light TAG, 1 ton Comm Gear, .25 Cargo
Mod: Energy - Any combo of Energy weapons desired up to 10 SHS to keep the cost down...

Extra Mod: Swap out the LMG / MGs for Magshot / AP Gauss, any leftover tonnage goes into Cargo.

TT
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« Reply #22 on: 01 April 2018, 17:49:53 »
There's really no reason not go with a 9/14 version with a 25 rated engine at that tonnage.  The cost is trivial compared to the extra MP...

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #23 on: 01 April 2018, 18:06:25 »
True... but was going by what is on the RS... since TW changed those specs abit.

I haven't thought of a MP upgrade...

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« Reply #24 on: 01 April 2018, 18:12:38 »
If you use fractional accounting, 4.5 tons is the sweet spot for 10/15 MP.

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #25 on: 01 April 2018, 19:37:12 »
Three problems with the jeeps in this context:

1. A full squad of battle armor is 4t.  8t if they're heavies and advanced rules are in effect.  Your jeep can only fit a 2t infantry compartment. 
2. There is no artillery piece light enough to fit on a jeep. 
3. A technical is not a main battle tank. 

Since a squad battle armor transport, an artillery vehicle, and a main battle tank are the core requirements of the OP's challenge I think your submission is probably not going to be accepted. 

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« Reply #26 on: 01 April 2018, 19:49:08 »
Either Mag-Clamps or an "Omni" variant take care of the BA requirement.  If said BA have BA Tube Artillery, the second is also taken care of.  Only the MBT requirement really excludes the jeep, but I agree the Jeep doesn't fit here.

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #27 on: 01 April 2018, 21:21:31 »
Your telling me a 7/11 Ramming isn't good enough?  ;)

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TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #28 on: 01 April 2018, 21:22:47 »
Not for an MBT, no... An MBT would need to be able to do it more than once...  ::)

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Re: One Chassis Challenge.
« Reply #29 on: 01 April 2018, 21:34:38 »
Technically I could a drop a cargo of Mines... behind me.  :drool:

But I could also just as well move with the A4 gun trailer.

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That is, if true tanker doesn't beat me to it. He makes truly evil units.Col.Hengist on 31 May 2013
TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
If I'm attacking you, conventional wisom says to bring 3x your force.  I want extra insurance, so I'll bring 4 for every 1 of what you have :D ~ Tai Dai Cultist on 21 April 2016
Me: Would you rather fight my Epithymía Thanátou from the Whispers of Blake?
Nav_Alpha: That THING... that is horrid
~ Nav_Alpha on 10 October 2016