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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #300 on: 28 February 2018, 17:27:01 »
As awesome as the minis look...it's the possibility of seeing new mapsheets out again that's got me super excited...

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #301 on: 28 February 2018, 17:37:22 »
This seems really strange to me since my local town has put out a news blitz about cardboard being nearly 100% recycleable. Not saying you're wrong, you clearly aren't. Just weird that more cardboard is being recycled but it's more expensive. I'd think the reverse would be true. More cardboard being recycled would mean that it would be cheaper.

Oh well. Nobody said the world made sense.

It is, but see, here's the thing people need to be aware of in the recycling biz.

When one make cardboard versus paper, the fibers are often coarser, and less refined.

When Paper is recycled it is made, I don't want to say worse, but the quality is in some ways diminished through the process:

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Process

The process of waste paper recycling most often involves mixing used/old paper with water and chemicals to break it down. It is then chopped up and heated, which breaks it down further into strands of cellulose, a type of organic plant material; this resulting mixture is called pulp, or slurry. It is strained through screens, which remove any glue or plastic (especially from plastic-coated paper) that may still be in the mixture then cleaned, de-inked, bleached, and mixed with water. Then it can be made into new recycled paper.

So, the cardboard has been reduced, and can be made into new cardboard, but still that process is not cheap nor easy:

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Recycling

Most types of "cardboard" are recyclable. Boards that are laminates, wax coated, or treated for wet-strength are often more difficult to recycle. Clean cardboard (i.e., cardboard that has not been subject to chemical coatings) "is usually worth recovering, although often the difference between the value it realizes and the cost of recovery is marginal". Cardboard can be recycled for industrial or domestic use. For example, cardboard may be composted or shredded for animal bedding.

So, when Cardboard is recycled it goes from Heavy Duty to less heavy duty, to ultimately either recycled note paper or tissue/toilet paper.

Take a look some time at the actual fibres of the various papers in your house.

Cardboard: Thick, Long Fibres
Writing Paper: Thin, short fibres
Tissue Paper/Toilet Paper: Thin, very fine, very short fibres.

Now remember what was said above; In Recycling the recovered paper product is chopped up and mixed with chemicals. So each step through the process is reducing what has come before.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #302 on: 28 February 2018, 18:18:55 »
i went through that phase already a few days ago. :D

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #303 on: 28 February 2018, 19:54:38 »
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #304 on: 28 February 2018, 23:10:07 »
I like what I'm hearing, so please understand that when I say that I'll believe it when the product hits shelves, I am in no way wishing failure on anyone. It is a challenge, but one I hope CGL meets.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #305 on: 28 February 2018, 23:37:20 »
I keep seeing a LOT of posts by people complaining (NOT the word I wanted to use) about some of us buying the new box sets JUST for our Collections.  Like, How DARE we spend OUR OWN MONEY for what WE want to buy, I guess?  Rather than post the reply that I'd Like to make, which would most certainly get me a Warning, I'll simply say that I'll continue to support CGL and their BT franchise, no matter the product.  I don't care for the Clans, but if they'd ever released the Clan Box Set, I WOULD have bought one.


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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #306 on: 01 March 2018, 00:06:33 »
I keep seeing a LOT of posts by people complaining (NOT the word I wanted to use) about some of us buying the new box sets JUST for our Collections.  Like, How DARE we spend OUR OWN MONEY for what WE want to buy, I guess?  Rather than post the reply that I'd Like to make, which would most certainly get me a Warning, I'll simply say that I'll continue to support CGL and their BT franchise, no matter the product.  I don't care for the Clans, but if they'd ever released the Clan Box Set, I WOULD have bought one.


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Grud, the problem with the previous box set was that it was a loss for the company in the same way the Playstation was for Sony. The company could only afford to release so many box sets in the hopes that it would generate enough interest in the line and sell accessory products and supplements to recoup costs. Hence the fear that dedicated players purchasing all the stock shuts out new players. To be honest, had I known this was the case, I wouldn't have purchased the new box set either. The discussion earlier in this thread was bringing up how it would be wise for the current fans to hold off to allow new players to get into the game. Otherwise we hurt ourselves in the long run.

However, now that we know this new box set is not a loss leader for the company and that it makes a profit on every box sold, that previous concern is moot. Buy all the boxes you want because now CGL would have the money to keep it in print.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #307 on: 01 March 2018, 00:10:50 »
As a reminder, this:

BULLSHIT. Enough of that. Buy as many as you want. Buy them all. That’s not how this works. Do we need to post the old ladies and the ‘Facebook wall’ meme?

Anyone who wants to buy hordes of box sets but feels guilty about it, BUY THEM, sign up with the CDT, run games and demos at your local stores, and ASK FOR more. There. No guilty conscience.

So stop with the whole "collectors shouldn't have bought the box sets" nonsense. It is utterly untrue.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #308 on: 01 March 2018, 02:47:53 »
It's good to hear that CGL will be able to make some bank and reprint the new sets. Nothing is more frustrating as a customer who wants to see a game grow, than to be told that buying a product will hurt said game.


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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #309 on: 01 March 2018, 09:14:21 »
I miss that game. Loads of fun, but I was priced out of it by a guy at our store at the time who could afford to go all-in on every collectible game he laid eyes on, get the good stuff from the outset, and lord his victories over everyone else.

I have this old GI Joe commercial flashing through my head, with "Cobra Raven" replaced by "Power Gamer". (Apologies if you get that stuck in your head, but it's better than a Spice Girls song being stuck there. I think.)

I imagine the reverse is true. People are recycling cardboard more because new cardboard is so much more expensive. It may take some time for recycling programs to have enough of an effect on supply to swing prices.

Good point about the time. And bonus points for using "effect" properly and not using "impact." (A personal peeve of mine.)

Has there been any thought as to the feasibility of selling counters as pdfs if these prove successful? It would allow players to make their own, possibly expanding the available selection.

You know that would be awesome. Get some thicker cardstock from the local office supply store and print all I needed? I could finally deploy all the infantry used by an RCT... man. How many mapsheets is that going to take?

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #310 on: 01 March 2018, 09:31:43 »
Having Battletech in that old Pirates setup maybe better way to do Alpha Strike and put into easier game for new player to pickup. Card, punch out mech, try not to accidentally swallow mini-mini-dice (like pirates) and play on terrain done.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #311 on: 01 March 2018, 09:54:24 »
I miss that game. Loads of fun, but I was priced out of it by a guy at our store at the time who could afford to go all-in on every collectible game he laid eyes on, get the good stuff from the outset, and lord his victories over everyone else.

Personally, I preferred the Rocketmen game with a similar system that they did.  I've been using some of the ships for battles in Savage Worlds Slipstream recently.

And to get back on topic, I want the new maps!

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #312 on: 01 March 2018, 11:15:17 »
I personally would love a box set that came with a star of elementals. I get everyone hails to the king, but im a bigger fan of the battle armor..as if theres no way you guys can tell that ^_^.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #313 on: 01 March 2018, 11:22:04 »
I personally would love a box set that came with a star of elementals. I get everyone hails to the king, but im a bigger fan of the battle armor..as if theres no way you guys can tell that ^_^.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #314 on: 01 March 2018, 12:09:30 »
Having Battletech in that old Pirates setup maybe better way to do Alpha Strike and put into easier game for new player to pickup. Card, punch out mech, try not to accidentally swallow mini-mini-dice (like pirates) and play on terrain done.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #315 on: 01 March 2018, 13:35:51 »
Agree with Foxx: Elemental boxes would be awesome. That being said I'll compromise with Clan Star miniature boxes or Clan starter boxes. I'm really depressed over here as a Ghost Bear and all I can show my trothkin is my Inner Sphere Battalion while I assemble the Clan force one expensive to my paycheck mech at a time. Damn Spheroids!!!

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #316 on: 01 March 2018, 15:18:51 »
You heard it here first, folks. Fans demand the return of BATTLETROOPS!

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Not gonna' lie... I'd love to have a trooper scale game where the difference in Battle Armor *feels* different, rather than just slight variations on mobility, armor, and damage/ range...

Also, where they move more than 1 - 4 or so hexes (Or 2"-8")

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #317 on: 01 March 2018, 20:38:06 »
Not gonna' lie... I'd love to have a trooper scale game where the difference in Battle Armor *feels* different, rather than just slight variations on mobility, armor, and damage/ range...

Also, where they move more than 1 - 4 or so hexes (Or 2"-8")

 You got me drooling.

Agree with Foxx: Elemental boxes would be awesome. That being said I'll compromise with Clan Star miniature boxes or Clan starter boxes. I'm really depressed over here as a Ghost Bear and all I can show my trothkin is my Inner Sphere Battalion while I assemble the Clan force one expensive to my paycheck mech at a time. Damn Spheroids!!!

 Yes something like this would have me throwing money, heck id be okay if it was clan mechs with cardboard cutouts for the battle armor. Tho some minis would be icing..one can dream right? ^_^
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #318 on: 04 March 2018, 22:39:15 »
Not gonna' lie... I'd love to have a trooper scale game where the difference in Battle Armor *feels* different, rather than just slight variations on mobility, armor, and damage/ range...

Now I want to start scouring eBay and secondhand game sites for this:

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #319 on: 04 March 2018, 22:52:14 »
Funny no one brought up AToW #P
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #320 on: 05 March 2018, 01:10:54 »
I've always been wanting to use AToW's squad combat rules as a standalone infantry combat game. Anybody else do this, and was it any fun?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #321 on: 05 March 2018, 01:37:50 »
I've always been wanting to use AToW's squad combat rules as a standalone infantry combat game. Anybody else do this, and was it any fun?

It's a lot of information to keep track of.  Moreso even than in a regular BattleTech game, once you consider that most battlefields especially at the infantry level are neither sparse nor flat.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #322 on: 05 March 2018, 15:06:39 »
Random question, but has it been mentioned who the UK/European distributor will be for the two new box sets? I dropped my FLGS an email about pre-ordering and they hadn't spotted them coming up for order yet, but it'd be nice to be able to tell them which distributor to watch for.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #323 on: 05 March 2018, 15:59:55 »
I'd hazard a guess of around Origins or Gen Con for initial release.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #324 on: 09 March 2018, 10:20:42 »
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #325 on: 09 March 2018, 10:46:54 »
Wonder if they'll release that via Drivethru or Catalyst store as ebook?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #326 on: 09 March 2018, 11:04:50 »
Repackage of the anthology?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #327 on: 09 March 2018, 11:05:16 »
Its already out on Kindle.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #328 on: 09 March 2018, 11:07:33 »
Okay, maybe I am confused . . . I thought it was supposed to be all new fiction, but I see reviews on Amazon for this book going back to 2014?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #329 on: 09 March 2018, 11:14:56 »
Okay, maybe I am confused . . . I thought it was supposed to be all new fiction, but I see reviews on Amazon for this book going back to 2014?

Sarna has it publiched originally as a pdf between 2012 and 2013

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