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Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« on: 25 February 2018, 05:45:00 »
Length - 975 meters
Displacement - 890,000 tons
Crew compliment - 418 (including 50 Elementals/Marines)

As part of the NWP (New WarShip Program) instigated by ilKhan Corian Tchernovkov with the joint effort to produce a series of WarShip designs that would then be made available for all the Clans, the NWP's first success was the Nightlord class Battleship, the program was slowed owing to the ilKhan's death, but efforts to keep the program going out of the sense of unity that the ilKhan wanted stopped it from being killed off entirely.  Working down in weight, the next NWP was a cruiser that would replace the ageing Aegis, Cameron and  Black Lions in front line service, allowing the older ships to be retired or put back into Naval Caches as their age was making them harder to maintain and keep active. 

Based in part on the Luxor design, the Thebes was built to be a powerful combattant as well as being tough and durable, they were somewhat jokingly called Pocket Battleships for their size, firepower and protection.  Like their Luxor pregenitor the Thebes didn't carry a huge amount of cargo, trading endurance for protection and firepower.  Several Clans adopted the class and over a dozen were built.  But they never succeded in replacing the older vessels, many of whom were retained, and some Clans refused to 'waste resources' on building the newer vessels when they had ships that were viewed as being perfectly servicable already in commission.  The NWP managed to last a few more decades, producing the Typhon class Destroyer and the Fredasa class Corvette before the Dragoon Compromise and the first intelligence from the Inner Sphere killed the program and any great WarShip building plans any of the Clans had when it was found that WarShips had gone extinct within the Inner Sphere.

Seen here is Clan Smoke Jaguars CSJ Scharnhorst, who along with her sister the Gneisenau formed a unique Sub-class of the Thebes hull that only served with Clan Smoke Jaguar. Trading cargo space for a massively reinforced hull and thicker hull plating, giving them armour levels above almost anything else constructed at the cost of limited endurance as well as being harder to repair once damaged.  They were named after Prussian military commanders and two vessels from Terra's First World War and were seen as successful if short legged ships.  The heavy hull bracing and reinforced armour protection (using a system similar to the Lola III's with multiple layers of plating and several 'dead spaces' before meeting the main armoured belt) made these two ships horribly cramped and spartan even by Clan standards.  Still the ships were a powerful addition to the Jaguar's Tourman especially after the loss of their last Battleship during the Mongoose Absorption.




Drawn by the amazing Matt Plog - https://mattplog.deviantart.com/

Design/specs by Vition 2

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Class/Model/Name:  Scharnhorst class Armoured Cruiser
Tech:              Clan / 3050
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              890,000 tons
K-F Drive System:  (Unknown)
Length:            975 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,490 meters
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:         
   25 NL55
   23 Heavy NPPC
   10 NAC/30
   24 LRM 20+ArtIV
   18 Large Pulse Laser
    8 LB 10-X AC
   40 AMS
    8 NAC/20
    4 Medium NPPC
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Class/Model/Name:  Thebes
Mass:              890,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass 
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      160,200.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 18)               402,725.00
Lithium Fusion Battery                                               8,900.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 5)                                              74.00
Structural Integrity: 135                                          120,150.00
Total Heat Sinks:    4,000 Double                                    3,389.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                   5,100.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              2,225.00
Fire Control Computers:                                                   .00
Hyperpulse Generator:                                                   50.00
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (2,727 total armor pts)         2,402.50
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                 465
   Fore-Left/Right:                    460/460
   Aft-Left/Right:                     460/460
   Aft:                                  422

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Fighters (10)                                             1,500.00
           Small Craft (2)                                             400.00
   Bay 2:  Fighters (10)                                             1,500.00
           Small Craft (2)                                             400.00
   Bay 3:  Cargo (13,253.5 tons)                                    13,253.50

DropShip Capacity:  4 Docking Hardpoints                             4,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2:  (95-meter diameter)                                100.00
Life Boats:  35 (7 tons each)                                          245.00
Escape Pods:  30 (7 tons each)                                         210.00

Crew and Passengers:
     54 Officers (54 minimum)                                          540.00
    169 Crew (169 minimum)                                           1,183.00
     85 Gunners (85 minimum)                                           595.00
     50 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                        350.00
     60 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
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3 NL55                     Nose        17     17     17     17  255  3,300.00
3 Heavy NPPC               Nose        45     45     45     45  675  9,000.00
2 NAC/30(120 rounds)       Nose        60     60     60     --  200  7,096.00
3 LRM 20+ArtIV(180 rounds) Nose     5(48)  5(48)  5(48)     --   18     48.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.00
2 LB 10-X AC(120 rounds)   Nose     1(12)  1(12)     --     --    4     32.00
5 AMS(1488 rounds)         Nose        --     --     --     --    5     64.50

3 NL55                     FL/R        17     17     17     17  510  6,600.00
4 Heavy NPPC               FL/R        60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
2 NAC/20(120 rounds)       FL/R        40     40     40     --  240 10,096.00
3 LRM 20+ArtIV(180 rounds) FL/R     5(48)  5(48)  5(48)     --   36     96.00
3 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     3(30)  3(30)  3(30)     --   60     36.00
5 AMS(1488 rounds)         FL/R        --     --     --     --   10    129.00

3 NL55                     L/RBS       17     17     17     17  510  6,600.00
3 Heavy NPPC               L/RBS       45     45     45     45 1350 18,000.00
2 NAC/30(120 rounds)       L/RBS       60     60     60     --  400 14,192.00
2 NAC/30(120 rounds)       L/RBS       60     60     60     --  400 14,192.00
3 LRM 20+ArtIV(180 rounds) L/RBS    5(48)  5(48)  5(48)     --   36     96.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.00
5 AMS(1488 rounds)         L/RBS       --     --     --     --   10    129.00

3 NL55                     AL/R        17     17     17     17  510  6,600.00
3 Heavy NPPC               AL/R        45     45     45     45 1350 18,000.00
2 NAC/20(120 rounds)       AL/R        40     40     40     --  240 10,096.00
3 LRM 20+ArtIV(180 rounds) AL/R     5(48)  5(48)  5(48)     --   36     96.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.00
2 LB 10-X AC(120 rounds)   AL/R     1(12)  1(12)     --     --    8     64.00
5 AMS(1488 rounds)         AL/R        --     --     --     --   10    129.00

4 NL55                     Aft         22     22     22     22  340  4,400.00
4 Medium NPPC              Aft         36     36     36     36  540  7,200.00
3 LRM 20+ArtIV(180 rounds) Aft      5(48)  5(48)  5(48)     --   18     48.00
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.00
2 LB 10-X AC(120 rounds)   Aft      1(12)  1(12)     --     --    4     32.00
5 AMS(1488 rounds)         Aft         --     --     --     --    5     64.50
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                            Heat: 9,700     876,746.50
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Specs for the standard Thebes to follow.


As always, thoughts/comments are most welcome.
« Last Edit: 25 February 2018, 05:52:12 by marauder648 »
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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #1 on: 25 February 2018, 13:36:31 »
I like it

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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #2 on: 25 February 2018, 23:02:22 »
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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #3 on: 25 February 2018, 23:43:40 »
And here's the standard Thebes Heavy Cruiser, designed by Vition2.

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Class/Model/Name:  Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
Tech:              Clan / 3050
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              890,000 tons
K-F Drive System:  (Unknown)
Length:            843 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,166 meters
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:         
    4 NAC/20
    4 NAC/10
   10 Medium N-Gauss
    6 Light N-Gauss
   13 Light NPPC
   12 NL55
    4 NL35
    8 AR10 Launcher
   24 Large Pulse Laser
   24 LB 20-X AC
   19 LRM 20+ArtIV
   32 AMS
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Class/Model/Name:  Thebes mk. III
Mass:              890,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      160,200.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 18)               402,725.00
Lithium Fusion Battery                                               8,900.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 5)                                              74.00
Structural Integrity: 95                                            84,550.00
Total Heat Sinks:    1,750 Double                                    1,139.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                   5,100.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              2,225.00
Fire Control Computers:                                                   .00
Hyperpulse Generator:                                                   50.00
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (1,920 total armor pts)         1,690.50
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                334
   Fore-Left/Right:                  320/320
   Aft-Left/Right:                   320/320
   Aft:                                 306

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Fighters (10)                                             1,500.00
           Small Craft (2)                                             400.00
   Bay 2:  Fighters (10)                                             1,500.00
           Small Craft (2)                                             400.00
   Bay 3:  Fighters (10)                                             1,500.00
           Small Craft (2)                                             400.00
   Bay 4:  Cargo                                                    56,782.50

DropShip Capacity:  4 Docking Hardpoints                             4,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2:  (95-meter diameter)                                100.00
Life Boats:  35 (7 tons each)                                          245.00
Escape Pods:  30 (7 tons each)                                         210.00

Crew and Passengers:
     52 Officers (52 minimum)                                          520.00
    171 Crew (171 minimum)                                           1,197.00
     78 Gunners (78 minimum)                                           546.00
     50 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                        350.00
     90 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
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2 Light NPPC               Nose        14     14     14     --  210  2,800.00
2 Medium N-Gauss(120 roundsNose        50     50     50     50   30 11,048.00
4 NL55                     Nose        22     22     22     22  340  4,400.00
2 AR10 (30 KW, 10 WS, 60 B)Nose         *      *      *      *   40  4,200.00
4 AMS(3600 rounds)         Nose        --     --     --     --    4    152.00
3 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     3(30)  3(30)  3(30)     --   30     18.00
3 LB 20-X AC(180 rounds)   Nose     4(36)  4(36)     --     --   18     72.00

3 Light N-Gauss(180 rounds)FL/R        45     45     45     45   54 27,072.00
1 NAC/20(60 rounds)        FL/R        30     30     30     --  120  5,048.00
  1 NAC/10(60 rounds)                                            60  4,024.00
2 AR10 (30 KW, 10 WS, 60 B)FL/R         *      *      *      *   80  8,400.00
4 AMS(3600 rounds)         FL/R        --     --     --     --    8    304.00
3 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     3(30)  3(30)  3(30)     --   60     36.00
3 LB 20-X AC(180 rounds)   FL/R     4(36)  4(36)     --     --   36    144.00
3 LRM 20+ArtIV(180 rounds) FL/R     5(48)  5(48)  5(48)     --   36     96.00

2 Medium N-Gauss(120 roundsL/RBS       50     50     50     50   60 22,096.00
2 Medium N-Gauss(120 roundsL/RBS       50     50     50     50   60 22,096.00
4 NL55                     L/RBS       22     22     22     22  680  8,800.00
4 AMS(3600 rounds)         L/RBS       --     --     --     --    8    304.00
3 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    3(30)  3(30)  3(30)     --   60     36.00
3 LB 20-X AC(180 rounds)   L/RBS    4(36)  4(36)     --     --   36    144.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(120 rounds) L/RBS    3(32)  3(32)  3(32)     --   24     64.00

4 Light NPPC               AL/R        28     28     28     --  840 11,200.00
1 NAC/20(60 rounds)        AL/R        30     30     30     --  120  5,048.00
  1 NAC/10(60 rounds)                                            60  4,024.00
1 AR10 (15 KW, 5 WS, 30 B) AL/R         *      *      *      *   40  4,200.00
4 AMS(3600 rounds)         AL/R        --     --     --     --    8    304.00
3 Large Pulse Laser        AL/R     3(30)  3(30)  3(30)     --   60     36.00
3 LB 20-X AC(180 rounds)   AL/R     4(36)  4(36)     --     --   36    144.00
3 LRM 20+ArtIV(180 rounds) AL/R     5(48)  5(48)  5(48)     --   36     96.00

3 Light NPPC               Aft         21     21     21     --  315  4,200.00
2 NL35                     Aft          7      7      7     --  104  1,400.00
2 NL35                     Aft          7      7      7     --  104  1,400.00
4 AMS(3600 rounds)         Aft         --     --     --     --    4    152.00
3 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      3(30)  3(30)  3(30)     --   30     18.00
3 LB 20-X AC(180 rounds)   Aft      4(36)  4(36)     --     --   18     72.00
3 LRM 20+ArtIV(180 rounds) Aft      5(48)  5(48)  5(48)     --   18     48.00
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TOTALS:                                            Heat: 3,847     890,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        17,759,972,000 C-Bills
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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #4 on: 26 February 2018, 11:58:10 »
If I dare to have a disagreement with this fantastic design it be the naming of the ships themselves.  Clans themselves ignored previous history, by Nicholas Kerensky's push to establish their own culture.
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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #5 on: 26 February 2018, 12:36:09 »
I'm glad ya approve :) And very true, but we also have names like Conqueror, Mountbatten etc, so its not quite unprecidented, especially considering the Clan's fettish for Generals and the like.
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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #6 on: 28 February 2018, 17:02:18 »
Great art, love the design.  Thumbs up to Plod! (and marauder for funding him  ;D )

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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #7 on: 28 February 2018, 21:56:28 »
Very nice!

willis

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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #8 on: 17 March 2018, 13:16:16 »
Here are the two TRO style readouts for these ships.
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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #9 on: 17 March 2018, 13:52:15 »
Oh wow! Thank you <3 :3
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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #10 on: 17 March 2018, 13:54:33 »
You are most welcome!
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Re: Thebes Class Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #11 on: 19 March 2018, 14:29:53 »
Some good stuff there. Nice Job!!!!
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